Starting Chemo in April 2014

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  • LovebeingNana
    LovebeingNana Member Posts: 134
    edited April 2014

    Lily I will be thinking of you tomorrow! I hope your SE's surprise you with how mild they are!!!! 

  • mmtagirl
    mmtagirl Member Posts: 509
    edited April 2014

    day 2 insomnia and surfing the net at 3:30 am.  No wonder chemo patients suffer fatigue! One more day on decadron and then I bet I hit the wall.  So far so good on managing nausea and otherwise feel ok!

  • Longislandl8y
    Longislandl8y Member Posts: 145
    edited April 2014

    lilyrose53 I thought you probably knew about the risks, but just wanted to be sure :) Don't worry about the bone pain, I did and it never came.  I am glad your daughter can help you.  My daughter lives out of state and she came home for spring break.  No joke, within an hour of her getting here I started feeling better! Nausea went away! Woohoo! They are good medicine for us moms :) 

  • Kazzy115
    Kazzy115 Member Posts: 122
    edited April 2014

    hi ladies.   I am so awed by all of you who are pushing through with laughter and who so willingly share all your experiences with others, helping shed light around our fears. I don't know that I've ever felt so proud to be a female.  And not meant in any way as a slight to men, but I see such strength  and power and compassion and healing among this community and my female friends and family. 

    I find I hone in on each and every breast cancer story out there.  Find them moving and cathartic. Thought I'd share two recent that recently passed my way.  Be forewarned though there might be tears.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/15/i-touch-m...

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nTLYQwuLrEU

  • misszed
    misszed Member Posts: 90
    edited April 2014

    Hi all, hope everyone is coping well. Thanks @Kazzy115 for starting this forum.  I start chemo this Monday and lm just so nervous!! I was told l did not need chemo after surgery and my onco type test came back really low...l was in remission for 2 and had just finished the 2 day Avon walk when l had recurrence in my cervical neck bones. Radiation took care of the pain but unfortunately the cancer seems to want to stick around even after the Radiation and hormonal therapy. 

    I love this site for information and support, l look forward to getting tips on how to cope while on Chemo. Best of luck and prayers for hope and healing to you all!

    Susan

  • lilyrose53
    lilyrose53 Member Posts: 216
    edited April 2014

    Hi ladies!

    I am so stinkin tired, I don't even have the energy to read any posts since yesterday.  I had my first round of A/C today and nothing went as planned.  Ended up needing two IV's cause they couldn't use the port.  ugh.  I'm going back tomorrow for Neulasta and then on to the hospital for a dye test on the port.  All in all, a very long and tiring day...but I'm OK.  No real nausea yet, just stomach not feeling right.  I'm trying to eat a little.  I also have a raging headache, but I think it may be from the stress of the day's events.

    Nana - I will be thinking of you tomorrow.  Hope you sail through without a hitch!

    Hugs to all,  lilyrose

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited April 2014

    Ann/mmtagirl - thanks for the report.  Hoping the effects of the steroid have worn off so you can get some rest. Glad you were feeling ok otherwise.

    Nana - hoping things go well for you today with your first treatment.

    Longislandl8y - glad your daughter made it safely and is a comfort to you.  I imagine it also means a lot to her to be able to be with you as well.

    Susan - sorry you are having to deal with chemo, but there is a very nice group of folks here to provide support.

    Lilyrose - Good luck with your port and hope you feel better soon.

    Kazzy -thanks for the links.

  • Mompv
    Mompv Member Posts: 110
    edited April 2014

    I am not sure when I am starting chemo. My doctor has decided to to chemo first for 6 months then lumpectomy. I see her on Monday then will schedule the oncologist. All I know so far is that it is IDC stage 2 grade 3 and that it has not spread to my lymph nodes. I will find out Monday all the other details. I am nervous about starting chemo, but feel better after reading these posts. I have scheduled a teeth cleaning for Tuesday after reading it is a good idea. I have also begun drinking more water to get used to drinking so much. Time to train the bladder!!! I have also decided to cut my hair once chemo is scheduled or maybe I will do it sooner as it will be easier to take care of. My DH is shaving his head down to a buzz cut. 

    You all seem so brave and are inspiring me to get a grip and confront this head on!!!

    Thank you!!!

  • Longislandl8y
    Longislandl8y Member Posts: 145
    edited April 2014

    Welcome Misszed & Mompv.  You will find great support here as well as answers to questions the doctors/nurses failed to address.  Sorry you are here, but it will all be good because you're taking care of business - we all are - so that life will be good for a long time once we're done. 

    LilyRose - sorry you had such a crappy day.  That headache might be from the chemo.  When I went for my 1st infusion they said some people get a bad headache and that if so you should tell them to slow down the infusion the next time because it definitely helps avoid that headache. 

    SharonDe - thanks for your kind words about daughter. And yes, I think it was important to be here even more so for her, than for me.  Honestly, I worry more about the kids than myself through this...

    Today I am reveling in the fact that I feel so well 9 days after my first infusion.  I plan on getting lots of exercise and spring chores done before the next infusion on the 29th.  I was able to complete 90 minutes of cardio, strength, yoga at the gym yesterday for the first time since before my diagnosis.  Felt like a million $.  It was exhausting and my left shoulder wasn't up to the task completely, but overall with some modifications I did pretty darn well :)

     

    Hope everyone has a great day today!

  • EverForward
    EverForward Member Posts: 242
    edited April 2014

    Greetings from California! I've been lurking this past week while enjoying a mini vacation with my family. It's been good for them and for me. Just a few more days until I head back to DC and start chemo next week. I'm ready.

    I'd like to ask the group how your insurance bills you for the chemo infusions. I just had a disturbing call with my insurance company, which led me to believe that for each and every session I will have to pay $100 hospital co-pay, plus $25-35 physician co-pay, plus 30% of the drugs (which cost a fortune). I know it depends on how the hospital classifies the treatment and different levels of insurance cover more or less than others, but I'd be grateful to hear from others on this.

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited April 2014

    Hi Everforward - I have been trying to get that answer for awhile and what I have currently been told by my cancer treatment center is that I will pay my specialist copay amount each visit.   I still waiting on the final answer reference the cost of the chemo drugs but can't seem to get anyone to give me a straight answer yet.  I have an appointment with my MO tomorrow and will meet with the financial person there to see if she has clarification yet.  

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited April 2014

    I received a call from the billing department with an estimation of my out of pocket costs - I would be required to pay about $300 each visit, because there was about $1200 left of the $4,000 max "out of pocket" cost I had with insurance (BCBS).  When she found out I was doing Radiation, she said she would recalculate next week, because I probably wouldn't owe anything.  

    Note - this is not a hospital, but a small Cancer Center - which is a group of doctors practicing at two locations

  • jc254
    jc254 Member Posts: 439
    edited April 2014

    Everforward, I had Aetna at the time of my treatment (through cobra, but that's another story) and only had to pay out of pocket a $40 specialist co-pay at each infusion.  I saw my oncologist before each treatment.  You're right, those chemo drugs are ridicously  expensive, as is the neulasta shot, and 30% of that would be a hefty bill.  Isn't there a max out of pocket amount with your policy?

    Before chemo started, I received a phone call from the hospital billing department telling me that I would owe approximately $10,000 out of pocket for chemotherapy- and did I want to speak to a social worker for help with finding financial assistance?  I was shocked.  Turned out, they were completely wrong- so check and double check directly with your insurance company.

  • Swissmiss
    Swissmiss Member Posts: 111
    edited April 2014

    Hi Everforward...As of the insertion of my port last week, we have actually reached our maximum out of pocket expenses for the year.  Yes, at first I was happy...yea, all my bills will now be paid at 100%!  But then I realized that our maximum out of pocket expense is $8000!  I am shocked at how expensive everything is, and I am trying hard not to think about how we will pay for all the bills that will be sent our way soon.  From what I understand, there is always a maximum out of pocket expense, for most insurance plans, and I am not sure, but those copayments should count towards that.  We happen to have a plan that does not have copays, just coinsurance--not sure if that makes a difference.  I think one of the most disturbing parts of my treatment has been how my hospital automatically sends you to see the "financial counselor" before each treatment.  They always say "arrive 30 before your procedure," and this is for the financial visit.  Makes me feel uneasy, to be honest.  We have insurance which pays the vast majority of my care, and they are creating more anxiety by making me detail exactly how and when I will pay my share.  Frustrating!  

    Best of luck to you! 

  • MJHJAN1014
    MJHJAN1014 Member Posts: 708
    edited April 2014

    Call oncologist for pain meds. I had horrible bone pain in my legs first round of TC. Finally called on a Saturday night and got OK to use my unused Oxycodone from surgery. It saved me. Do not suffer with extreme side effects.

  • MakeLemonade
    MakeLemonade Member Posts: 153
    edited April 2014

    Had consult with my MO this afternoon and I will now officially be starting chemo in April 2014 - next week on Tuesday!  Was not expecting it to be that soon ... but as I have my port already (he was happy about that), given my age (kept getting a jolt when they told me several times that I was considered young at 56-1/2!), HER2+ status, that my lymph nodes were involved ... starting sooner is better.  

    Will be doing the dose dense schedule.  4 treatments of Adriamycin and Cytoxan.  These will be every 2 weeks.  Then 4 treatments of Taxol and Herceptin, again every two weeks.  Then Herceptin every 3 weeks for a year in total. 

    Was not expecting to start so soon and wasn't expecting to be on the dose dense schedule ... had to process that!  Got to see the infusion room and sat in the chair while the oncology nurse went over everything.  That really hit me and I got a little teary there for a minute or two.  

    Getting an echocardiogram tomorrow.  PET scan isn't scheduled as my appointment was late in the day and the oncologist's office is closed tomorrow.  They faxed everything over, so I will follow up tomorrow ... will be either Monday or first thing Tuesday.  

    The MO did listen to my heart and looked at my incisions and was happy with everything.  Apparently my case was up at the tumor board this morning and as the MO is head of the cancer center at the hospital, he was at that meeting, so was VERY familiar with my case!  I guess that is good :-)   They do feel that the surgeon got all of the cancer out of my breast.  I see the surgeon on Monday to get my stitches out.

    Picked up my meds (Emla cream, Zofran, Compazine)  Also picked up Colace and Senna. And Claritin for the Neulasta shot on Wednesday. Got a prescription for a wig ... will go to the store at the cancer center tomorrow after the echocardiogram.

    And, of course, will have to call the insurance company.  Was supposed to get 30 tabs of Zofran, but they said the limit was for 9 tabs. Need to find out what is up with that! 

    Need to get a bag together with everything I want to bring to chemo.  Start upping my fluid intake. Start reading up on the specific chemo drugs I will be getting. 

    And remember to enjoy the visit with my sons this weekend :-)  One is driving home from Pittsburgh this evening, the other will come home after work tomorrow.  

  • LovebeingNana
    LovebeingNana Member Posts: 134
    edited April 2014

    Hi April start friends. I had my first TC treatment today. The infusion itself went well….I felt a little off toward the end of it, not bad - but off - my head seemed like it had pressure not really pain. I actually then went to a staff meeting but an hour after I had left the infusion center I started with a terrible headache. I took advil and it helped slightly so that I could get a walk in (per my MO's instructions - exercise every day.)  The headache has really not stopped. No nausea at all - I ate a small dinner and no problem at all! The happy thing is 1 down and 3 to go. I think it is easier to have started than to be still waiting to start.   I hope I don't get a headache like this every time. The only other issue is metals taste but that is not bothering me. 

    I hope you all are doing well. 

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited April 2014

    MJHJAN - sorry about the pain, but thanks for the advice.  Hope next round goes easier.

    MakeLemonade - wow, sounds like you are doing to hit the chemo lounge running.  It also sounds like you have a knowledgeable team helping you. Enjoy time with your sons this weekend.

    Nana - very glad to hear your first day wasn't too bad.  Sounds like the headache was the worst so far, and you pushed though that to go to a meeting and a walk.  Waiting to start is hard, but it helps to read how everyone else is doing.

  • ColdInCanada
    ColdInCanada Member Posts: 95
    edited April 2014

    Ladies, I feel like I've missed a TON of stuff here, but I literally have been SLEEPING for the past couple of days. I have never been so tired in all my life - I actually fell asleep in the middle of EATING A SNACK. True story. :D

    I wanted to comment on the whole hair thing. Three weeks ago, I walked into the salon and told my stylist about my cancer. And I told her to do the pixie cut thing. And I gotta say, if you're thinking of getting a pixie cut before chemo takes your hair, JUST DO IT. Seriously. Don't get me wrong, it is HARD. I cried. I had finally, after YEARS of fighting with it, made peace with my unruly wavy hair. I had finally figured out how to manage it. I was attached to it. But in the end, I found that I really really REALLY liked the pixie cut. It is so EASY, you know? And, personally, at the risk of sounding completely and utterly vain, I think it's adorable. I can sleek it back, or spike it up, or do a combination of the two. I may just decide to keep it this length afterwards too. Here's an "After" photo:

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    Today, two weeks less a day from Round 1, I woke up to a scalp that was HURTING. And it didn't take long before my hair started falling out in handfuls. SUPER GROSS. Like GAG gross. And I am SO HAPPY that it is SHORT hairs falling out, and not long curly locks. Because that would be even MORE super gross than it already is. The Big Shave is happening this weekend. It's kinda scary. Because YOU JUST NEVER KNOW what's going to be under the hair. Like, what if there's some freaky birthmark? Or a weird tattoo your mom never told you about? If I find anything really cool, I'll definitely post photos. ;)

    In conclusion, don't be afraid to go short BEFORE the chemo takes your hair. Choosing to cut it all off myself made me feel like I was in control. It wasn't easy - I found it harder to say goodbye to my hair than I did my breast (because my breast was TRYING TO KILL ME), but I can honestly say that The Big Shave feels less traumatic now. 

    Nana: I have a headache EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. It's managed with Tylenol and a disgusting amount of water, but it's always hovering. I'm thinking for me it has to do with sinus issues. The chemo does attack the protective lining of the sinuses, which can aggravate allergies. I'm just guessing though. I hope your headaches improves. 

    LongIslandl8y: You are my hero. 90 minutes of exercise! Woo hoo! I, alas, can barely make it up the stairs to bed some days. I was so active before chemo, so I really thought I'd be able to at least go for a 30 minute walk every day. But, NO, that tires me out even more. Add that to the need to keep my stomach full at all times in order to manage the nausea, and I think I'm going to have pounds to drop when this is all over. Eeep. :O

    P.S. They never did find the source of infection. Apparently, they rarely do. Whatever. I'm still on some crazy big-dose antibiotics that make me nauseous and a bit loopy. Good news: while I was in the hospital, my fantastic husband hired a housecleaning service for the remainder of the chemo. Yay me! :)

  • LovebeingNana
    LovebeingNana Member Posts: 134
    edited April 2014

    ColdinCanada you look adorable. I cut my hair a couple weeks back - that was hard…I have an appointment to go in and get it shaved a on day 12. I am anxious when I think about it. 

    I am sorry about your headaches but thank you so much for answering on that. My MO gave me a list of possible side effects, common & rare and it wasn't on either list so it worried me. Today this headache is winning, advil isn't touching it, neither is tylenol. I am drinking A LOT of water. My husband is in awe. haha. I am hoping it will be better tomorrow. 

  • Lakegirl1
    Lakegirl1 Member Posts: 316
    edited April 2014

    Cold in canada... I totally agree re: the haircut!!!  You look marvelous, darling!!!   I cut about 12" off just prior to my 1st surgery!!!   Once I mustered up the courage, I was so glad I did. I had to go back to the hospital when I got Staph.  By having it short...I could totally wash it in the sink in my bathroom.  I would not have been able to do that with the long hair!

  • OptimisticMom
    OptimisticMom Member Posts: 6
    edited April 2014

    You are so smart to drink water when you have a headache!! That is what warded off headaches for me during chemo.

    Best way to avoid nausea during chemo was told to me by my naturopath and it worked. For about 48 hours before you start your chemo session, avoid all animal protein, grains, beans and dairy. You won't starve -- you can eat as much fruit, veggies, eggs, nuts and seeds as you are hungry for. This will allow your bowels to be loose, so that you can eliminate that way instead of throwing up. It is miraculous and I hope you will try it. I had ACT, 8 sessions and only had one bout of nausea before I tried this advice, and then no more nausea!! And I never took any anti-nausea meds at all.

  • lilyrose53
    lilyrose53 Member Posts: 216
    edited April 2014

    Hi ladies!

    My internet was out so I wasn't able to access the boards.  :(  My first chemo was Wednesday morning.  DD went with me.  Saw the MO first then onto the infusion room.  My nurse, who was truly an angel, started with flushing my port.  That went fine, except when she tried to draw a little blood out-nothing.  She did everything possible, and still nothing.  Two other nurses came over and tried-nothing.  So she went to talk to my MO.  He said he didn't want to delay the start of my treatment, so we would have to do an IV.  ugh.  Nurse got one started in my arm and began administering the first anti-nausea drug.  It went ok, but my arm started to ache.  When she started the second drug, it soon became an all out burning pain.  She checked her 'stick' several times, and the IV was in correctly.  She decided to remove that IV and began a new one in my big easy-to-access vein in the crook of my arm.  Then in went the red devil, which she had to push.  She did a good job, talking to my daughter and I through the whole thing.  It helped take my mind off what was going on.  After she finished she hung the bag for the Cytoxan.  That went well.  I was surprised that when I needed to use the rest room about ten minutes later, that I was already peeing red!

    There was a volunteer there from the ACS.  She was so nice.  She had me come into her office as soon as I was finished with my infusion.  She showed me several nice wigs.  I chose one and then she pulled out a huge bag of scarves and told me to take as many as I wanted.  Also got to go through a bin full of nice, soft crocheted hats.  I was also given a cute heart-shaped SOFT pillow, which fits nicely around the back of my head when I sit in my lazy-boy chair at home.  All of this was free!  Everything except for the wig, was handmade and donated by church groups.  I do crochet, so I think I'm going to make some lap quilts to donate back.

    My daughter and  I even stopped at the grocery store on the way home.  I was feeling pretty good.  As the afternoon wore on, I started a terrible headache.  It just would not let up.  Finally, sometime after midnight, it started to get a little better.  I went for my Neulasta injection this morning, that was easy.  I am taking the Claritin and Advil as directed, so hopefully, won't get the bone pain.  But I still have a slight headache that I can't shake.  I am eating ok, just sticking to small, frequent meals.  I really don't have an appetite because my taste buds are off.  I am drinking tons of water to flush my system. 

    Longisland - Thanks for the tip about the speed of infusion.  I will ask about that next time.  Having our daughters with us is the best medicine I can think of!  :)

    SharonDe - Thanks for your support!  I was supposed to have a dye test and x-ray on my port today.  However, the hospital messed up, so it won't be done until Monday.  :(

    Nana - Sorry you got a headache too.  But I think for me, I'd rather deal with a headache than nausea.  I sure hope you are feeling better!  I was thinking of you all day.

    Cold - I was beginning to worry when we didn't hear from you!  Glad you are ok.  I love your haircut!  You look adorable!


  • mmtagirl
    mmtagirl Member Posts: 509
    edited April 2014

    Cold, the pixie cut really favors you.  I bet you will be beautiful bald!  So glad you are feeling better, too.

    Other than feeling a general fatigue the last two days and queasy stomach even with the anti-nausea I am doing ok.  Even worked and met friends at a local pub yesterday for awhile (I drank water lol!).  Then came home and retired to the lazy boy the rest of the night.

    Today, woke up and bent over to pick up something on the floor and wowzah! What a head pain I got. The most piercing head pricks all over my scalp.  It's only day 4 but I am wondering if it is the beginning of the end for my hair.  Wig appointments and pixie cut aren't scheduled until next week!  I better get on it!

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited April 2014

    Hope my April Chemo sisters are doing well!!  My chemo now starts on april 29th due to my healing issue - which is ALOT better.  Told my MO that I was getting a 2nd opinion next week on the chemo regime and he was VERY HAPPY and I was so nervous to have that conversation with him.  He said he was torn between two plans and have Moffitt Cancer Centers recommendation was great.  I really like him 

  • Lakegirl1
    Lakegirl1 Member Posts: 316
    edited April 2014

    Linda...I don't know about you, but I have a greater appreciation for people who are humble enough to recognize they don't know it all and welcome collaboration.  It sometimes concerns me when someone, esp an MD, seems to think they know it all.   It makes me wonder, "what are they trying to hide?"  

    Also, glad to hear your healing is going well.  It feels good to think you are that much closer to getting toward the end of this unanticipated journey!  

    Janice. 

  • DeeC
    DeeC Member Posts: 102
    edited April 2014

    Yes, to the whole being strong thing.  Sometimes I do feel strong, but mostly one day at a time.  I think the more support you can get from family and friends can help greatly.  I am blessed with a husband who is with me all the way, and he likes to cook!

    Also, even though I don't feel like it I have found exercise helps both mentally and physically.  I go to a local YMCA for easy water aerobics and take a seated yoga class at the senior center (I am 70).  Other days I walk around the block.

    One thing I did do that helped make me and others laugh was buy funny cancer tee shirts to wear to treatment.  I have 'Cancer Sucks', Chemo Ninja Cancer Assassins', a 'Winnie the Pooh', and one I made with a sparkly BC cancer ribbon.

    My sister says "you may not like it, but you have to do it".

    Dee

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited April 2014

    Sounds like you have a good MO, Linda.  Also means you can share what Moffitt says and discuss with him as well.  When I told my BS I wasn't sure about the SAVI internal radiation, he said "You can discuss with the RO" - and gave me a referral, but he did have an attitude about it ;)

    Dee - your t'shirts sound like fun!

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited April 2014

    Dee-  Yes - I am thrilled with his attitude - he absolutely wants to hear what Moffitt says and gave me a note to give to my MO at Moffit with his contact info on it.  

    Lakegirl - He earned my total trust today as I see he is someone that I can say anything to now about my treatment and he will hear me.  That was great to find out early on.  

  • Lakegirl1
    Lakegirl1 Member Posts: 316
    edited April 2014

    Dee...I love the shirts!  One of my fav's is, "Yes, their fake, my real ones were plotting to kill me!"  

    Pretty straight to the point...but this is what gets me through this unwanted adventure.

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