Starting Chemo in December 2013

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  • jackieak
    jackieak Member Posts: 169
    edited April 2014

    sounds like my zofran regimine.  The very expensive one is the neulasta shot, that is billed anywhere from $5000 to $20,000, my copay on that was $40.  That needs to be pre certified, so ask about that also, you will get a shot the day after your chemo.

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited April 2014

    Have you tried calling other pharmacies to price shop it? Walmart and Costco come to mind. Also, some drug companies have assistance programs for some of the meds people need when undergoing cancer treatment.

  • RHGSR
    RHGSR Member Posts: 774
    edited April 2014

    hi linda. $75 for the RX is a lot cheaper than what mine was going to be. Mine was $500. So my MO puts it in my IV. That way the insurance pays for it. 

    Also, we get our RXs from SAMs. If you have the member plus card it gives you 8-40% off RXs. That has been a lifesaver for us. 

    At MO for follow up and blood work. He is sending me to hosp. for a chest scan. Since I get so out of breath and my heart races with small tasks to rule out a pulmonary embolism. 

    I'm probably fine. But he is erring on the side of caution of I guess. Ugh. Another scan. 

  • missy6758703
    missy6758703 Member Posts: 218
    edited April 2014

    My AC treatments were running around $12000 per treatment, one day I looked at my bill and one of the treatments was over $16000, i questioned why it was so different, but was informed it was due to my port not working that day and they had to give me a clot buster shot into it....that little shot was over $4000.00!!! Thank God for insurance!!! My Taxol treatments are less, but I have met my out of pocket for the year so those are completely coverered. I am lucky on my RX co-pays, the most I have had to pay out of pocket has been $20 but most meds are $10.  Even with all that, i still sit here with a stack of bills that I just keep trying to avoid.....out of sight, out of mind! argghhh.........

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited April 2014

    Holli, hope all goes well with your scan. 

    Hair...my nether parts lost it first and found it first. Armpits, legs and head all starting to fill in. What sucks is, I can't shave until chemo is done. Electric razor does not cut the hair and causes severe razor burn. PT says no more electric because of LE. MO says no regular razor until chemo is done, go without shaving.

  • Jodi040812
    Jodi040812 Member Posts: 383
    edited April 2014

    wow!!  I haven't looked at my stuff to see the cost!  Crazy!  I have not received a neulasta shot ever.  I guess it is up to the doctor?  2 more chemos, so maybe they are not planning on giving me one.  I do know someone else at my hospital that got them.  Perhaps they have a WBC cut off number.  Not sure.   I only pay $25 to see my doctor nothing for chemo.  Of course I pay for zofran. They only give me 12 zofran a chemo  even though it is suppose to be a 30 day supply too!  Insurance!  But so happy to have it.  I am sure they are not happy to have me lol:). 

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited April 2014

    Yep - thank God I have insurance but why does everything have to be so confusing and complicated LOL.  I think the MO's and insurance companies just make it up as they go - not really - but look at all the differences in how we are treated and how we are given meds and it really makes you wonder...

  • RHGSR
    RHGSR Member Posts: 774
    edited April 2014

    when I worked in the hospital about 10 years ago, I remember those "clot busters" being crazy expensive.  They had to give them to me when I was in the hospital this last January cause my port clotted off. I asked the nurse if she realized how expensive they were. And she said she had no idea. When she came back she said I had made her curious and she checked and couldn't believe how expensive they were. Hoping that will help her know to take better care of her patients ports. :0)

  • RHGSR
    RHGSR Member Posts: 774
    edited April 2014

    I'm waiting to get this scan... 

  • missy6758703
    missy6758703 Member Posts: 218
    edited April 2014

    Good luck with the scan!

  • Crazywabbit
    Crazywabbit Member Posts: 563
    edited April 2014

    Lisa, if you use the EMLA cream instead of plastic wrap use Glad Press and Seal.  It works wonderful to contain the cream to just over the port. 

    Hollie you are going to do just great on the next taxol.  They know to give you lots of premeds. I do not go until the afternoon this Thurs, beats getting up at 6 AM. Hope scan comes out normal. 

    Linda only get the kytril in the premeds and do not need anything after taxol for nausea at all. 

    Barbara

  • RHGSR
    RHGSR Member Posts: 774
    edited April 2014

    no blood clots. Chest CT clear. Guess my shortness of breath, rapid heart, etc. is just due to the fatigue from the chemo. 

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited April 2014

    thanks to you all for the info on the emend and nausea med alternatives 

  • Crazywabbit
    Crazywabbit Member Posts: 563
    edited April 2014

    great news Hollie.  

  • Lisaj514
    Lisaj514 Member Posts: 719
    edited April 2014

    Barbara- thanks for the press and seal suggestion. I only have 1 treatment to go but my sister may be able to get me some Emla so I don't have to get a whole prescription for just 1 time.

    Yea Hollie, glad to hear about your scan. Have you girls on taxol been icing hands and feet. I have and also taking L-glutamine (powder that's mixed with juice) 3x/day day before, day of and day after chemo.  Have slightly funny feelings in my fingertips sometimes but nothing I would call real neuropathy. Same with the bottoms of my feet, sensitive but I have full feeling.

    Had chemo Monday and the steroid high is wearing off. Achy muscles, joint pain, sore throat, and crappy feeling setting in. Had a great day today and even went to yoga this evening but I knew when I got home it would start and sure enough it did. My muscles feel bruised or like I was lifting weights, they are sore to touch, shoulders, biceps, triceps,, neck, hips, quads, butt..... Usually last 3-4 days then gradually gets better. Going to LI on sat-tues to visit my family. 4.5-5 hr ride, by sat should be somewhat better.

    My sister scheduled a private restorative yoga and reiki session for us on Sunday. She's going to be starting chemo on thurs for non-Hodgkin's lymphoma :-( and so us chemo sisters will get some special attention. Have never had reiki. If any one out there has let me know what you think

  • kimie06
    kimie06 Member Posts: 215
    edited April 2014

    you gals have been busy posting...Smile

    holli glad to hear all went well with the scan.

    re: icing hands and feet, mikesgirl can give you more info she did it the entire time with taxol, I did it my last 3 and I believe it helped, I still have a little neuropathy but nothing all that noticeable.

    I am off today to get marked for radiation, finally.... I never thought this day would come.  Chemo seemed as though it would never end.  As you all know and I cant wait for the day that all of us have this behind us.

  • Mikesgirl17
    Mikesgirl17 Member Posts: 260
    edited April 2014

    Hi girls.  Congrats on the wide margins and clear scans ladies.  That's awesome!  Icing hands and feet....I did this all the way through a/c and Taxol and did not suffer any neuropathy.  I would tell anyone to do this.  Neuropathy was my biggest fear and I'm so glad I iced.  I will be going for my 4th radiation treatment today.  It is quick and painless.  I'd say it is 10 minutes from the time they get you in the treatment room until you are walking out.  Things to buy before hand.  Toms aluminum free deodorant, unscented mild soap. (I.e. dove, ivory, etc.)  I bought baby wash.  100% aloe gel.  No deodorant before you go, but you can use after.  This is true of any lotions or aloe as well.  I made the mistake of going on a thread here and wished I hadn't.  It was "Starting radiation spring 2014."  I thought it would be nice to have support from women that were going through the same thing at the same time.  Well, some woman who had finished radiation went on and posted her horror story.  I don't know why she did this.  It's not like anyone asked her to share her worst case scenario, but misery loves company I guess.  She managed to take my positive outlook on rads and turn it into constant worry.  She had severe skin issues at the end and described them in depth.  This is not the norm.  It is the exception.  We will all have different experiences.  We don't need to worry about "What if?"  I have taken myself off that thread.  I would much rather go through this talking to everyone of you as we venture into this new territory.  Did anyone respond to the lady a couple days ago who asked us all to take a survey about chemo.  She was stating that she had researched about the dangers of chemo.  I didn't think it was very nice to come on a site where women are going through it already and talk about it's dangers.  Have a good day ladies.

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited April 2014

    Hey all - Can someone tell me how you go about icing your hands and feet during chemo - is that something you ask the nurses for at the chemo center?  Or is it something you do on your own - if so what do you bring to do it?

  • kjfromca
    kjfromca Member Posts: 283
    edited April 2014

    Hi ladies - Just catching up on posts.  

    Holli - Glad to hear no blood clots.  That's great news.  

    kimie - As soon as you finish the mapping, they should have your start date if you don't already have one.  I can't wait for these next 6 weeks to pass.  

    Mikesgirl - I missed the chemo post you are referring to..... glad I did.  I have been using aloe and olive oil at night.  Wondering if you are using aquaphor?  I did notice that my breast is a little pink this morning, doesn't hurt. I have posted on the rads board a couple of times..... I will be hanging around this board, you are all a bunch of awesome ladies.  

    Wishing you all a good day.

    Kim

  • Mikesgirl17
    Mikesgirl17 Member Posts: 260
    edited April 2014

    Linda, some treatment centers have things to ice with.  Ask the next time you're there.  Everyone at my treatment center looked at me like I was crazy for icing.  In Maine that is definitely not the norm. I made my own ice packs and fleece pouches to put the ice packs in.  Then when the actual chemo was about to be administered (Not the pre meds.) I would wrap my hands and feet.  They sell things online to make it easier as well.  You could check out Amazon.  I have pictures of my ice packs and pouches on this thread somewhere.  I will look back.  If I find it, I will let you know what page it's on.

  • Mikesgirl17
    Mikesgirl17 Member Posts: 260
    edited April 2014

    KJ, I am using Aquaphore at night.

  • Lisaj514
    Lisaj514 Member Posts: 719
    edited April 2014

    mikesgirl- I followed your icing technique and also have had minimal nerve problems. The staff did not know anyone that iced during taxol but certainly didn't discourage it and were interested in the rationale. My MO didnt siggest it but was fine with me doing it. It constricts the blood vessels in fingers and toes and prevents the chemo drug from I filtrating those areas is what I read. Similar to cold caps to prevent hair loss I think. 

    Here's what I did following mikesgirl advice and reading info on Internet. Use freezer zip lock bags. Use2 bags for each pack. I made 6 packs so I could switch some out if they did not stay cold. I brought them in a small igloo cooler. Mix 1 cup alcohol and 2 cups water. Double bag, squeeze out as much air asyou  can. Freeze overnight. It will be like slush. I used an old fleece blanket, cut it up and make little pillow cases for them. Barefoot or with thin socks, I sandwiched my feet between 2 ice packs. For my hands I would grip a pack, or sandwich my hands between 2 packs also or just lay my hands and feet on the ice. Make sure you get all fingers cold. I just iced my fingers (not palms) and toes and ball of foot (not arch or heel). did some of you do whole hand and foot? If you are sitting in a chair with hands in lap make sure you have a blanket in your lap so your  legs dont freeze! Here are pictures:

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  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited April 2014

    Oh - thanks Mikesgirl and Lisa for the pictures and descriptions - this will really help me put something together for this.  I am in a retirement town and the majority of the patients at the cancer center that I will be going to are in their 70's and up - I am thinking I may be the only one there interested in doing this and may be their first - hope they don't give me a hard time about it.

  • Leealice
    Leealice Member Posts: 87
    edited April 2014

    Holli-yay for clear scans

    Lisa-hope you feel better soon. toward the end of chemo I decided to try to sleep alot during the bad days

    Mikesgirl-Thx for the info on rads. I meet with RO for mapping next week. Should start rads end of April/first of May. I'll have to drive an hour each way. May get some books on tape.

    Had my port taken out today. Easy peasy. So glad to have that foreign thing out of my body even though it didn't bother me

  • J4DC
    J4DC Member Posts: 80
    edited April 2014

    hi, linda, I also ice my feet and hands during taxol. I bought Elasto-Gel cold Mitten and shoes from amazon. I put them in freezer one day before chemo and put on during taxol. My MO highly recommended it and everybody in my treatment center seems to be doing it. Good luck!

  • Mikesgirl17
    Mikesgirl17 Member Posts: 260
    edited April 2014

    Leealice, congratulations on getting the port removed. I was so excited to have mine out :)  It felt like chemo closure.

  • DJJ
    DJJ Member Posts: 229
    edited April 2014

    For those of you who have finished chemo, Yippie!!! When you finished did your body ache?  Especially legs?  Mine didn't ache when I was doing Taxol but they sure ache now.  I don't know how I'm going to make myself go back and finish the last 4 low dose.  This break is horrible, every time I think about having to go back I cry.  Any volunteers to make me go back by gunpoint?!?!?!? Isn't 12 chemos enough poison to kill the cancer...sigh

  • Jodi040812
    Jodi040812 Member Posts: 383
    edited April 2014

    DJJ- my legs felt like a ran a marathon the last 4.  But it is gone now!!  It goes away pretty fast after:)

  • missy6758703
    missy6758703 Member Posts: 218
    edited April 2014

    ughhhh so many body aches tonight.....had my 10th Taxol on Monday, 2 more left to go but tonight i feel like crap...the muscle aches in my neck and shoulders and hips are so miserable....been in bed since i got off work at 4:30!!  Is this normal? i haven't had much up until now, only with the AC and the neulasta shot..  

    So tired of all this! Tomorrow is a new day though, right??? :)

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited April 2014

    DJJ, the breaks make it so much harder to go back. I keep thinking I must be nuts. I have been battling crying jags too. I just want to be done. I still have tomorrow and next Thursday...not sure if I will or won't receive the Taxol. My MO has been making the call weekly. Last week was a no go, after my having to descend the stairs on my butt. I couldn't really feel my legs and feet well enough to have the confidence to descend standing up. I have had 7 of the 10 scheduled so far. I am thinking I will most likely have at least one more. My MO is feeling that whatever amount I have at this point is good. He says I have completed 90% of treatment and he is comfortable with that. I cry on the way to my appointments lately as I really don't want to be there. I go anyway as it is just part of the journey, and if I can squeak some extra poison in to kill off the biotch then that is what I will do...even knowing that my next week is going to suck the big weiner. You will find the strength somewhere....I know it!!

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