March 2014 Surgery
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Kitty, you look great! Good luck to you today Footballnut (I am one too!)
I worked from home yesterday for about six hours, then took a nice long nap. My last drain is finally slowing down - it was 29 for the day yesterday and 9 this morning after being 17 yesterday morning. I'm trying not to get too excited, but hoping the downward trend continues and I can convince the nurse at the PS office to take it out tomorrow. It would be nice to go to work for a short time by the end of the week.
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Holy cow! Finally! I am pleasantly surprised and greatful for my PS. Just wish they felt better than they look. Getting used to the tight feeling. Mom is taking me to my office visit today. Hope she can handle seeing the drains pulled. Will be fun watching her expression. Is that wrong of me.haha!
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Kitty you look great!!
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Kitty...Looks good!!!
I, too, like to see the look on peoples faces when they pull those!!! Twisted, but who cares, we have to entertain ourselves somehow!!! Everyone is trying to be cool, but you can always see their eyes get huge when they realize how long they are. I only get Motrin and meant to take some before they pulled that last one, but forgot. I was regretting that. If possible, try to time the meds accordingly. You will feel better once the initial shock wears off. For some reason, that last one was a little intense.
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Lol my on the looks on peeps faces when they pull the drains. My best friend from the Army went with me to that appt - I looked over at her right after they pulled the first one and I really thought she was gonna pass out - she was white as a sheet.
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I KNOW, RIGHT?!?!?
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Well, I knew this was coming. My margins from surgery 3 are not clean. I'll need to have a mastectomy when I finish chemo. I took the news much better than when my second surgery pathology came back with positive margins and mastectomy was back on the table as a possibility. I am in full-on robot mode. Which is good because this Friday I fly to CA to visit my family and my folks need to see that I'm ok. Mom flies back to DC with me so she can be here for my first chemo treatment.
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oh Everforward - I am so sorry!! Try to enjoy your trip to see your family and put BS in a small dark corner of your mind for a few days. It will be nice to have your mom with you for your first chemo treatment!!
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I am so sorry to hear that Everforward..I agree with Linda...look at your trip to California as a place you don't have to think about the upcoming surgery. Focus on one thing at a time, get through chemo, then as you heal from chemo, start preparing yourself for the next step.
I just feel like we try to grasp this whole big journey at once, but my brain can only handle one step at a time!
Big hugs...remember, no bravery required here.
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I love the sign!!!
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EverForward, I'm so sorry. And trying to be ok isn't always easy either. (((hugs))). But do enjoy your trip to CA. You deserve it!! You'll get through it, one day at a time.
Seems like my tummy has finally calmed down a bit. I was able to drink a little bit of fat free kefir earlier, and just at one small (homemade) gluten free banana cocoa muffin. I feel quite a bit better than this morning. My gut still hurts, but not like it did earlier. Hoping all the extra supplements I've been giving it are going to kick this attack in one day. I'm finally starting to feel closer to normal again, so I really don't want to be down with a big Crohn's flare right now. I'm also teaching again tonight after dinner, so I will need enough energy for that too. Also trying to do some homeschooling with my son, but he's been dragging his feet, taking forever to do a little bit of math. He just literally escaped from his math book while I was out of the room for a few minutes and is now practicing his cello. I'll let him do that for a while, maybe his brain will function better after that. Getting back into a routine of doing school after an extended time off is always hard, and we really haven't done much for the last 6-8 weeks, with my 2 surgeries. We'll have to work through at least part of the summer too to finish our program, but that's ok.
My appointment went well this morning. Apparently there is no infection where the drain used to come out. It's still very open, and oozing some odd colors, but my BS said it looks normal. I think it is getting better now that I'm only putting on a very light layer of gauze, covered with a little bit of paper tape, so it can breathe more, rather than a thick bandaid. She did say to continue to put Neosporin on it. And, I got the ok to not wear the tight ace wrap anymore!!!! Woohoo!! I'm so happy. I'm now wearing a sports bra, and honestly, it's really hard to tell the difference between the right (with breast) and left (mastectomy side) sides; I'm just not very big, to say the least! LOL The mastectomy boutique lady kept trying to convince me to add a little filler on the right side as well, to make me a little bigger, but I'm used to myself that way, and didn't like it at all, so I'm not. 36AA it is. I used to buy 32A (or 34AA if I could find it), and attach those little extender things in the back so my rib cage didn't get squashed; I have never seen a bra size 36AA in any store!
Kitty, good luck at your appointment getting your drains pulled. I went alone to get mine pulled, so I didn't get to watch anybody's expression. I didn't watch either, I closed my eyes. But for me it was totally painless! I'd been so nervous about it too. Most of the staples didn't hurt either when the nurse pulled them out, except for the last 2, those hurt quite a bit.
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Everforward, bummer news for sure. One step at a time. We are all right here for you. I'm happy to hear your mom is coming back with you from CA. I'm wishing that some California sunshine pours down on you and gives you the relaxation you deserve.
I LOVE your sign. My girlfriend from AZ just sent me a bracelet saying the same thing.
Everforward, You got this. You will kick it in its STUPID face.
(((HUGS)))
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Drains pulled today - my husband watched but he's a PA so he's used to that kind of thing! I, on the other hand, turned my head with my eyes shut and...didn't feel a thing! (Took a percocet on the way though). Put on a Genie bra and feel like a different person with no drains and no giant Velcro strips poking me or getting stuck to my shirt! Have more of a creepy-crawly itchy feeling on my skin especially in my TE "cleavage" !...
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I just got 3 drains pulled. So happy and it didn't hurt at all.
Evermore, I'm so sorry about your news . Hope you can enjoy your trip.
I go to my oncology surgeon on Thursday to get my path report.
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Well sh*t, Everforward. Wouldn't it be nice if we could know from the beginning that a mastectomy would be necessary? Seems like lumpectomy after lumpectomy was just dragging out the inevitable for you. So sorry.
But at least now you know what your path is. Chemo first. Mastectomy second. It always feels better to me when there is a plan. It's the unknown that drives me crazy. It will be nice to back with your family for awhile. Just follow your heart and soak up the support. on your trip.
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Everforward, sorry to hear about your news. Have to agree with Sandra, the dragging it out had to have been very difficult for sure.
KellyGreen, Wynne50, hopefully my drain will be pulled tomorrow. I had some trouble with it over the weekend, PS said to come in Monday and they would pull it. The problem is, it is still draining too much, so I just decided to hang in there with my regular appointment tomorrow and hopefully they will pull it. It's still draining at about 40cc's, but honestly I can't take it anymore and want it out of there! I'm gonna head right to Bed, Bath and Beyond for a Genie bra.
Has anyone had any severe pain when bending over with their TE's? I almost feel like inside stitching is popping or something. Boy does that ever hurt. It seems like lately I have been in more pain than before. Maybe it's because I'm cutting back on the percosets, maybe this drain is getting to me, I don't know but lately I'm feeling like the TE is rock hard and I'm hurting more than before. I also wonder, do we get to a point of "I am over this already"? I guess I knew in my mind I was going to be in pain, but I really thought at this point in time it would start letting up a little, and it really hasn't. Plus the PS said they would probably give me a fill when they remove the tube, so more pain? Does there ever come a time when things start to feel somewhat normal?
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EverForward, I'm so sorry to hear your news. When I first met with my surgeon, she said I might be a candidate for a lumpectomy if I wanted to try, but I'd likely be facing more surgery. I just wasn't brave enough to try it (afraid I'd be facing multiple surgeries) and opted for nipple sparing BMX. Both my longtime doctor and the surgeon felt I was making the right decision, but my oncologist felt it was a little drastic, that I could get a good result with lumpectomy and radiation. As it turns out, I need to go back for more surgery anyway to have my right nipple removed because I didn't get clear margins there. In hindsight, while not looking forward to more surgery, I don't regret the decision I made to try and keep my nipples. It just didn't work out the way I'd hoped. I gave it a good shot, just as you did. You gave it more than a good shot! I hope you enjoy your trip and can just put it out of your thoughts for a while.
Speaking of the drain removal, my husband put on his glasses and got really close so he had a good view of it. He loves that stuff. lol So I let him empty my drains every time, because I don't love it.
I can't wait to get rid of this last one, hopefully tomorrow!
Frostecat, I am also heading straight to BB&B for a couple Genie bras right after I get my drain out. Then to get a hair cut if I'm not too worn out. I can't wait to put on a T-shirt and quit wearing my husband's button up shirts around the house every day. I only bought two button up shirts just before my surgery to wear to doctor appointments. I didn't know I would have the drains so long!
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Normal is gone. The best you can hope for is to be able to accept a "new normal."
It is common to have buyers remorse...not that we had much of a choice, but still it's a hard pill to swallow when our expectations don't match the reality at every single stage of this awful journey. We second guess everything choice we've made, wonder if our surgeons really knew what they were doing, and if we should have researched more. Then we wonder if we are being babies and should just suck it up and act like nothing is wrong. Next we are annoyed with the ones around us who don't understand what we are going through and wish they would baby us a little.
((((Sigh))))
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Ucfmom, everforward, I was told I might be a candidate for lumpectomy too, I was elated, only to discover later that it was multi focal and not meant to be. I was depressed after discovering this after the initial diagnosis. I only have a couple of button down zip up tops too and have been living in them the last 2 weeks, that and yoga pants/pajama bottoms. I will only be to happy to say bye bye to that drain, and to take a shower not hooked to the rod!
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Frostecat I have terrible pain when I bend over, below where the TE's are - it kind of feels like the ribs are bruised. I am guessing this is where the tubes from the drains were because the pain is very close to where the tubes went in on both sides. The drains on the right side came out 10 days ago and while that side is still sore it is better. The left side drains were taken out yesterday and that area is really tender. What a journey. I also had my first fill yesterday….not as bad as I thought but I am sore from that today too. I am so glad to finally be drain free!
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Everforward, I'm so sorry about your news. It's warm and sunny here in California and I hope your trip gives you a chance to feel revitalized and ready for the next steps.
Kitty you look great! You're so symmetrical.
Frostecat, I definitely feel weird when I bend over, like my expanders are going to drop right out. I still feel very tight being at 300 cc and my sternum still hurts a lot. Overall, my expanders seem bumpy and mishapen. I have a dent area in one and a couple of areas the size of a quarter that seem to stick out more than they should. I wasn't really expecting perfect half orbs but hmmm. I thought I would do a search about this but I'm getting tired of researching stuff! I see the PS in a week anyway.
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LovebeingNana - I also had that rib pain about 2-3 inches below my "breasts" but at the 4 week mark, it's not really there anymore. Armpit soreness is almost gone also. I just have tight burning across my chest. I think I'll only go for 50cc at my next fill if I still feel this tight pain. I'll probably just go up to 400 anyway.
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Julie thanks for the update about the armpit soreness, that is really bothering me right now too. You are a couple weeks ahead of me so I'm kind of following your journey. I wish I looked as good as Kitty - she looks great. My scar is curvy in shape, almost like a sideways S and travels to under my armpit. I haven't really seen a scar shaped like this but PS tells me not to think of this as the end result at this point in time, I sure hope not.
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Thanks Juliecc. My armpit pain is almost gone now and my expanders are also bumpy in places. My PS said they will smooth out as they get fuller.
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The pain in your lower ribs below your TE or implant is due to the pocket the PS made for your TE's and implants. The pockets aren't on your lower ribs, but that's where you feel the pain. It feels like a bruise. I've had pocket work during every one of the 4 surgeries I've had, and sometimes it's more painful than other times. Don't know why. If you change to a different kind of implant than the TE's were made for, you will have that pain all over again after your exchange. If you have a revision or repair to an implant later that requires any pocket work, you'll probably feel it too. People whose doctors used alloderm or one of the other dermal matrix products to reinforce the pocket, you will feel the rib pain too.
Bending over makes it worse. The longest I've had the pain is 4 weeks after surgery #3. This time it wasn't bad at all. I felt it but now at 2.5 weeks, I hardly ever do...just if I move a certain way.
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Frostecat -- I experienced the rib pain -- and PS said it was as Sandra indicated, part of the process of creating the space in your chest for the TE. I am 6 weeks out and that pain subsided at about the 3-4 week mark. I find bending and twisting tends to make me acutely notice the TEs -- but not a lot of pain -- just discomfort -- in having something foreign in ones body. The TEs are a little worrisome in shape and look -- and since I am only at 300cc and heading to 400 - 450 there is still room in the TEs to fill -- so not surprising to have uneven surfaces etc… PS says the perm implants will look MUCH better once they settle in after the Exchange surgery -- but that will not be till I live with these lovelies for 4 months or so.
Normal is a relative term. the further away from surgery I get the more I seek normal. But I realize I truly have NO perspective on this entire event -- that started in mid January for me. As time passes, I will understand and find what my new normal is -- and perhaps it will be an evolving one as Sandra iludes. but I too have been seeking that normal and realizing it will arrive for me when it arrives. so maybe letting go of the notion of normal makes the most sense for now.
Everforward -- enjoy your CA escape -- the weather is stunning in northern CA -- wherever you are going enjoy and take in the family love. Having your Mom with you will be nice. My sister and mom were god sends post surgery… they came out from Michigan -- and stayed for a while. So glad your Mom will be with you for the start of Chemo.
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My pain isn't in my lower ribs bit square in the middle of my breast where the nipple once was.
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Had my office visit yesterday and was able to get the last of my two drains pulled. Yay!!! Mom missed seeing the drains get pulled, darn it! I was hoping for a bit of entertainment, but she skipped off to the bathroom right as the PS came in and missed all the fun. He also took the tape off the girls, which shows a little area on the left where it is a little slower to heal. Go back for another visit next week. Hope I'm off the pain pills because having mom drive is well a bit nerve wracking. God bless her! Took her to lunch which was really nice to do, since we never seem get the chance to do it. Feeling really good today, but making sure I take it easy and not overdo it so I don't mess things up. I have been warned that even though you feel good just to lay around and take it easy. So that's my plan this week. Hope everyone is enjoying spring weather. Loving the sunshine here...finally!
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Kitty I am green with envy. I'm 15 days post op and don't look anything like that at all! Heading to the PS in a couple of hours, was hoping he would pull drain, but it keeps draining too much and the color is turning back to deep red - ugh! I want this out of me! I'll have to wait to see what he says.
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