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  • Lisaj514
    Lisaj514 Member Posts: 719
    edited April 2014

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    Here now for chemo #7. 3 out of 4 dd taxol today. blood work taken from port, waiting for results. Hoping all well. Decreased neulasta  amt last time so hoping all ok with WBC. Have been feeling good past 4 days. Attended daughters end of year swim banquet yesterday at suny geneseo and it was great. Above is picture of Lauren, and Bill. Me rocking the curly wig! 

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited April 2014

    Crazywabbit, always a good idea to check in with a well-qualified lymphedema therapist for personalized risk-reduction strategies, baseline arm measurements for future reference, and fitting for a compression sleeve and gauntlet (fingerless glove) to use prophylactically for exercise, travel, any time your arm feels heavy or just "funny", and during rads.

    As for swelling during taxane chemos, a lymphedema therapist is the medical professional trained to differentiate the causes and to treat it. Here's how to find a well-trained lymphedema therapist near you:

    http://www.stepup-speakout.org/Finding_a_Qualified...

    I'm really appreciating the privilege of reading this thread--you gals are truly inspiring. My own bc treatment was 12 years ago, and I look forward to all your friendships here lasting that long and longer! Onward!
    Binney

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited April 2014

    Binney, do they allow you to wear your sleeve during rads? That would be great! I know I can't wear my binder though...

  • missy6758703
    missy6758703 Member Posts: 218
    edited April 2014

    Made it through Taxol #10 today......all my counts were good, slept the entire time.  I have been very emotional today as well, not sure what is going on.  I am in a panic because my daughter graduates the beginning of June....i have NOTHING done....haven't even ordered her Senior pictures yet!! Sort of feeling like a flop as I'm usually so organized and on top of things.  I may have to recruit her father to help, although he has no clue as to what all needs to be done.  Ugh. 

    For those of you who can't sleep, I take Clomazipan and it is the best! Its more of an anti-anxiety pill than a sleeping pill but what it does for me is just shuts my mind off and relaxes me so that i can get some sleep.  It's been the best little pill ever for me. 

    Good luck to all who are doing chemo today, and this week and also who are starting rads! The end is in sight!!

  • RHGSR
    RHGSR Member Posts: 774
    edited April 2014

    thinking about you today Lisa and all ladies getting infusions. 

    Thinking about all the ladies getting radiation this week too. Forgive my humor but I'm thinking of y'all as the "Totally Rad Girls"!! :0)

    I'm in the chair on Thursday this week for DD Taxol #3. Really nervous since I had the reaction last time. Hoping this time we avoid all that. 

  • Lisaj514
    Lisaj514 Member Posts: 719
    edited April 2014

    did ok today. 7th chemo down and 1 more to go. My counts were good. Wbc went down to 8.2 but that's still wnl  (it had been 15.5 with the neulasta so she gave me less last time) I was pretty emotionally stable today after little panic last night. Minimal tears on way over today. Took xanax this morning prior. Accessing the port has been a little more painful past few times even with the numbing spray. Today's nurse said they are using different needles and that's prob why....Come on!!! She said I could use Emla but I only have one more and Emla is prescription. I think my sister can get me a small amount for 1 more treatment where she works (I fusion unit on LI).  They didn't have any to give me where I go. I only sleep a little during treatment even with the druggy benedryl. Feel drunk like and  go into half sleep.

    Had a different nurse today and I told her that the last nurse administered the taxol  real slow past 2 times and I had no trouble. Thinking of you holli! Started me at 25, then 75, then 150(I think) then 250. That's the highest they went. Don't know if we all get the same dosage but I thought you said you titrated to 500, compared to mine seems fast. It took 3.25 hrs for taxol only. I'm sure they will watch you carefully. I totally understand the anxiety. Maybe take something before to relax.

    Missy- congrats on #10and good counts. Your daughter can certainly help (HS graduation?), or get help from a friend or relative. Yiu are not a flop, you are battling a war right now so your body and mind are busy doing other things. You will get it done :-)

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited April 2014

    Robin, we've never had any trouble with women being allowed to wear their compression sleeves and gauntlets during rads, (but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened.) More and more the rad oncs are even being encouraging about it. It's important to make sure the fit is good, and to check in with a well-qualified lymphedema therapist if any swelling happens. It's normal for the chest/breast area being radiated to swell sometimes from the rads, and therapy can't be used on it during treatment, but once everything begins to heal that too can be checked out by a lymphedema therapist.

    I hope it's all smooth sailing for all of you!
    Binney

  • DJJ
    DJJ Member Posts: 229
    edited April 2014

    I fell behind the last few days.  Hope all goes well and went well with everyone's chemo and rads. 

    I'm doing well after my lumpectomy.  I did call the on call doc Saturday because the swelling was so bad.  "Hello Dolly Parton!" But only in one boob, so it wasn't working for me.  My breast was hard and hot and so swollen my nipple was flat.  Doc told me to come into today to have it looked at and maybe some fluid removed.  But woke up Sunday and the swelling had gone down some and the heat was gone.  Phew...the fewer needles the better!

    My nurse navigator called today with my pathology.  Nice wide clear margins!! Lil bugger tumor was a tiny 7mm.  It's so nice to know that the chemo is actually working.  Also, no cancer in my lymph nodes.  Wohoo!

    I'm going back to work tomorrow.  I'm so bored.  I can sit at my desk as well as I can sit on the couch.  Although, when my alarm goes off.  I may change my mind :)

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited April 2014

    WooHoo DJJ!!!

    Binney, thanks! I have been fitted and currently have mostly finished with my PT. I say mostly because I still had one session left when I started Taxol. Therapist was going to request 4 more sessions, but I haven't felt well enough to go while doing the weekly Taxol. Will be going back once I am finished with the chemo. I do my daily exercises, when the pain is low, both the stretching and LE exercises (activators and movers) I know they will be important to do vigilantly while completing rads. 

  • J4DC
    J4DC Member Posts: 80
    edited April 2014

    catching up with all your posts! Congrats to those of you finishing up chemo and moving on to rad. Wish you all minimum SEs. 

    Djj, glad to hear your lumpectomy went so well. It's great to hear about clear margins and neg nodes! I had huge swollen breast  2nd week after surgery. I was so freaking out and actually it was how I found this website during my search. I found gentle stretch and lift my arms helped a lot. I still had a little pocket on my breast that feels tender when pressed, but it's getting better everyday. 

    Jodi, my eyesight became so bad since chemo, very blurry indeed. 

    I had a tiny melt down today in doctor's office. I went to see another MO to get 2nd opinion and hopefully find a doctor closer to home after chemo. She was asking me about all my BC history and my tears just kept falling. :-( I haven't cried for a while, and I thought I am over this already. Anyway, she recommended an RO in my area and I feel good about moving forward after chemo.

    I went to Boston last week for work. The weather was great, my SEs wasn't bad, and I had great time traveling with my colleagues. We had a giant cannoli in mike's pastry, a well known Italian pastry. Don't want to know how much calorie is, it was so good! 

    Good night, ladies!

  • Lisaj514
    Lisaj514 Member Posts: 719
    edited April 2014

    DJJ-such great news! Seems like things are falling into place with this crazy ride. How's the walking coming along?

    Jodi and j4dc-my eyes also are not so good. Before I wore my contacts daily but now wearing my glasses almost all the time. Can't see well with the contacts and glasses are better. Sometimes there is no moisture in my eyes (there is no moisture anywhere these days) and other times they tear alot. My mouth gets terribly dry at night also-using biotine mouth spray, also my nose is so dry from lack of nasal hair (never ever thought about the benefit of nasal hair before lol) so it's either totally dry or then will just start dripping with nothing to hold it back! When does the nasal hair and "other" hair come back? Like private area, underarm? So far nothing there. Not missing the underarm hair though. (I know this is not TMI for this group). Sparse head hair is growing slowly (of course lovely shade of white) and some chin hair (wasn't missing that), but the eyebrows and lashes are thinning more and more now. All the hair is on a different schedule! Every morning before i look in the mirror I wonder if I've left my eyebrow on the pillow!

    Feeling good now, decadron energy. Will try to get to yoga tomorrow evening then I know the muscle aches and weakness will start. MO said I could get the reduced neulasta (4instead of 6mg) again tomorrow as WBC were lower but still wnl. Less joint pain with the reduced amt.

    Good night everyone. Will check in and up on everyone this week.

  • J4DC
    J4DC Member Posts: 80
    edited April 2014

    lisa, I know some of the ladies complained about nose hair before, I just felt it recently. My nose is so dry and clogged most of the morning. I completely feel what you said about hair on different schedule. My hair grows a bit on my head. Bottom eye lashes were all gone, upper ones have a few left. My brows are so thin and some part is disconnected, very pathetic, lol. It's still falling. Never really done much of make up in my life, I am getting better with drawing brows. 

  • jackieak
    jackieak Member Posts: 169
    edited April 2014

    " you look tired today" the quote of the day to me at work, several times.  YEH no sh*t I do, and I feel even worse....the crap people say....I managed 7 hours at work and 2 miles on the treadmill...this fatigue is getting worse each week as expected but it just makes me angrier and I refuse to let it win....there is a finish line out there somewhere, I'm just having trouble seeing it!  Moody Monday.

  • keepthefaith
    keepthefaith Member Posts: 2,156
    edited April 2014

    DJJ, good for you! So happy to hear the news. Happy

    jackie, I agree...really? I look tired... I wonder why??? The things people say sometimes....hang in there! You've got this!

    I used nasal spray for a while when my nose was clogged...it seemed to help.

    The only new hair growth I have seen so far, has been on my head, which is fine with me.

    Holli, yes, totally rad girls is what we are! Thanks:)

    Keep on keepin' on, ladies!

     


     

  • kjfromca
    kjfromca Member Posts: 283
    edited April 2014

    Lisaj - Nice family picture, your wig looks very natural.   They should of had you on the  Emla cream a long time ago.   If you need to keep your port for awhile, it will be worth getting the cream. 

    Holli -  You will be in my prayers on Thurs.   What happened to you, also happened to a friend of mine during either her 1st or 2nd Taxol treatment, I can't remember.  Anyway, they knew what to do to prevent it from happening again and she was fine for the rest of her treatments.  Make sure you discuss your concerns with your MO.

    Michelle -  I understand your stress level this time of year with the graduation coming up.  My daughter graduated last June.  Regarding the school graduation pics.... the formal ones.  I could not put a rush on them.  So, we used a cute pic that I took of Alli for her graduation announcements.  I ordered them online and had them within 10 days.  Are you having a grad party?  That's a headache in itself.   You need to delegate.   Sending a hug your way.... hang in there.

    DJJ - So glad to hear clear margins and no node involvement...

    Binney - Nice to have you here.  Thanks for your advice.  I will be seeing my PT once a week for evaluation and lymph drainage massage during rads... if that's what you call it. Sounds like plumbing.    Did you wear your sleeve and gauntlet all day, everyday during rads? 

    Robin - Re the Activators & Movers, are your referring to self massage or am I missing something that I need to bring to my PT's attention?  

    Take care ladies,   

    Kim

  • Jodi040812
    Jodi040812 Member Posts: 383
    edited April 2014

    Holli- definitely saying a prayer for you this week!!  I agree with they know now so should be ok:)

    I haven't worn contacts or glasses so the eye thing threw me.  But!  The moisture if the eyes makes sense!  I bought refresh drops and the next time they go blurry I'll try that!  

    Got a call tonight that a lady who is mutual friends with like 100 of mine just got DX.  I do not know her, but she requested me to contact her.  She was already on my Cheer FB page:(. I messaged her and we talked back and forth.  I just knew someone else was going to get it before I was done.  I have 1000 followers on that page, so I knew chances were good.  I told her about us here and told her to come and read our journey.  I told her how awesome the boards are to make friends, and to stay away from the scary boards.  But, I really think we have something special in this board:). So, prayers to the sisters who are just joining us and to the others who do not know yet.  We were those sisters last year.  Cancer has really pissed me off a lot in the last two weeks.  Lost 3 people and now one more to the team!  But, at least I could be helpful today. I hope I was at least.  

    Hugs ladies!!  Love y'all:)

  • Lisaj514
    Lisaj514 Member Posts: 719
    edited April 2014

    Kim, I will try to get the Emla cream for the next one but I just have one more and I hope the port can come out soon after. The doctor said sometimes she likes to keep it in for a while "in case it's needed" for what I should have asked. What would I need from my port after the last treatment? Blood work? Can't they just use an arm vein like I used to. Is she thinking if the cancer comes back within a year then its available? Ill ask her next visit.. But no I feel...take it out soon. It's annoying, noticeable esp with t shirt and tank weather coming and it's sensitive to touch. I can see and feel the 3 bumps on the surface of the port through my skin and the thin tube that goes up to ny jugular -gives me the heebie geebies touching it!

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited April 2014

    Kim, if you don't already have lymphedema you can wear the sleeve and a gauntlet (fingerless glove) during treatment and for an hour or so before and after, plus any time you're driving, traveling, exercising, or doing any strenuous activity (like vacuuming, moving furniture, gardening, etc.) Be sure the fit is good, and if you gain or lose weight check the fit again.

    It's important to use some hand protection when you wear a compression sleeve, to prevent any swelling from getting trapped in your hand, where it's harder to deal with. Here's a short article about why it's important (and while you're at this site, look around at the gorgeous patterned sleeves and gauntlets they make!):

    http://www.lymphedivas.com/handprotection.asp

    Be well,
    Binney

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited April 2014

    The activators and movers are exercises that my PT has me doing 1-2 times per day. They need to be done in the order given and are specifically for LE. The activators are to open up, activate, the remaining lymph nodes and the movers are to move the fluid. My therapist said it is similar to exit ramps being closed off on a highway and opening up detours to help prevent backup. 

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited April 2014

    Hey All - my Triple P friend Robin suggested that I read this forum to get info and help - I have joined the April chemo group but have a question on the Emend.  As you can see from my sig -  I will be doing Adriamycin and Cytoxan - DD - 4x and then 12 Taxol and then Herceptin and am wondering if you all took Emend for both the AC and the Taxol chemo's - my copay for emend is 75 for each use ughhh - and not sure how I can swing that if that is the case.  Thanks all!  

  • DJJ
    DJJ Member Posts: 229
    edited April 2014

    Ladies with the dry eyes.  I've been seeing my ophthalmologist since I got dry eyes on AC.  I just had a follow up appointment with him yesterday.  The blurry is from scratches on the corneaor oil that doesn't dissipate because of lack of moisture.  He has me on Restasis and then every 2-3 weeks I notice I still get really dry then I use Lotemax for a week and it clears up.  He said to keep up that regime that Lotemax is such a low dose steroid that it is ok to use frequently.  My drain holes also have little plugs in them.

    He went over the diagram of the eye and we have oil glands along our top and bottom lids that aren't producing enough oil right now and get clogged.  He gave me a handout that has me putting a hot steamy wash cloth on my eyes for 5-10 minutes a night to help open glands.  Also massaging my lids and under my eyes.  Take your index finger and press along the base of the lashes, or where the lashes are supposed to be :), repeat a few times for the upper and lower lid.  Do this morning and evening. 

    He said I can do latisse but won't give me the prescription until my follow up after I'm done with chemo and have a little growth. Hmmmm....he must see the desperation in my eyes to have hair!!!

  • oranje_mama
    oranje_mama Member Posts: 260
    edited April 2014

    Holli, good luck on Thursday.  I hope your Taxol issue was a one-time thing!

    DJJ, woo hoo on the path results!  I also got Lotemax from my opthamalogist and it seems to help.  I haven't been able to wear contacts or eye makeup for about a month now (too much tearing).  Between that and the wig . . . what a look.

    I still have terrible dryness, so a couple of times during the night I  use saline spray for the nose, Systane drops for my eyes, have a humidifier going all night (still! in April!).  I hope that this dryness crap is coming to a close . . . I'm on Day 6 from my last TCH.  

    To all those in rads, must feel so good to be getting done with this!  Maybe the tears are wrapped up in that last stage emotion too.  I am handing my last chemo better than the prior two - I think mainly because I keep telling myself that this is it.  Don't have to put myself through this again.

  • Leealice
    Leealice Member Posts: 87
    edited April 2014

    Lisa-I had emla and it never seemed to help until my last chemo someone told me to rub it on port at home and cover with saran wrap and by the time nurse accessed it, it was numb. Wish I would have done it the other 5 chemos. Getting my port out tomorrow! 10 days after last chemo

    DJJ-woohoo! love clear margins and no node involvement

  • Lisaj514
    Lisaj514 Member Posts: 719
    edited April 2014

    leealice-ya supposed to put the Emla cream on 1 hr before chemo, thick glob and cover with sedan wr. Of course I haven't used it as the numbing spray seemed yo work until last 3 treatments when it hurt and then one nurse informed me that they are using a new needle...so that's probably it. They don't have any samples of Emla for next time but my sister on LI is going to try to get from her unit for me for 1more treatment. Getting port out 10 days after last chemo! Woohoo for you. That's soon. Our BC stats are the same except opposite side. Have you started rads?

  • RHGSR
    RHGSR Member Posts: 774
    edited April 2014

    That's great news DJJ!! Woo Hoo for wide margins!! 

    Lisa- how ya doing today?

    Thank you so much ladies for the encouraging words about my infusion on Thursdsy. I really appreciate it. 

    Have my follow up today. Gonna ask MO about the Lymphedema. Thanks Binney. 

    Who on here said "tears make room for strength"? Thank you. Had a really weepy afternoon yesterday and I keep replying that over and over in my mind. I love it. Thanks. 

    Holli

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited April 2014

    Linda, welcome! I did not have emend, I used compazine and ativan(for nausea and stress). That was for the A/C. I didn't need it for very long. For Taxol I take a compazine and Ativan the morning of treatment. I have not had any issues with nausea on Taxol. Others here on the thread have battled it and should be able to assist you better. 

  • KAT4856
    KAT4856 Member Posts: 67
    edited April 2014

    Kjfromca,

    Thanks for the info. I had my mapping yesterday. Just like you said it wasn't too bad. I was a little nervous because I can get claustrophobic but I managed. I also was bummed. After finishing my chemo I began to feel like this was behind me so the mapping reminded me I still have a ways to go. I don't start my rads until 4/22/14 the doctor wants three to four weeks between chemo and rads. Once we start I'm sure the days will go by quickly. Hope your rads went well.

    How is your hair growth. I think mine is growing a little bit all over my head but it's hard to tell cause I did not shave my head.

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited April 2014

    Hi Robin  - thanks - they gave me a prescription for compazine too - that was afforable -- but this emend is crazy expensive - don't know why they have me with both?  Oh well guess I will ask if there is a reason for the emend also 

  • jackieak
    jackieak Member Posts: 169
    edited April 2014

    hi Linda, I had emend in my IV on AC as well as I took allot of Zofran an hour ahead and then when I got there, and an Ativan.  I don't recall the emend copay being that expensive, I believe the IV portion I paid was around $30.  On Taxol I only take one zofran, small milligram, then the Pepcid and steroid IV.  The zofran I hated because it caused such a headache.  May be some confusion with emend and Emla cream, the cream is very inexpensive and it's to numb the port area.  I have only used one tube, but did refill for another just in case.  I don't feel the poke at all in my port with the cream.

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited April 2014

    Thanks jackiek - been on the phone with my insurance company this am trying to get this worked out.  Right now they are telling me $75 for the prescription (pills) for the emend - take one at the chemo center then one each day for two days - so three pills for $75 and I do that twice a month so $150 just for that - ughhh - I am fighting and telling them that my prescription coverage says $75 copay for a 30 day supply of emend so that should cover two doses and not one - I plan on winning this argument

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