February 2014 Starting Chemo Club

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  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited April 2014

    No cravings for me, just aversions. I can't stand coffee anymore, I was a 3 cup/ day girl too! So much for no period, got it today and it is awful! Oh and the blisters on my hands and feet, coxsackie courtesy of my daughter! Hopefully I won't get a fever and my counts stay good otherwise I have to cancel my next treatment.  

    tangandchris- I wonder about the steroid thing too. I almost wish I didn't take them, I completely crash coming off of them. I get them in my IV at my treatment which is Thursday afternoon then I have to take them for the next 2 days, then Sunday and Monday I am crushed. How are your days post chemo? Hope you were able to get outside with your little one. I have young children too, 4 & 6. 

    Jb- sorry to hear a about the transfusion, I'm hoping you'll be thankful when it's over!

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited April 2014


    I don't even notice the steroid....or at least I don't think I do. The last 3 tx's I've felt pretty bad that night and the next day I'm in full swing of crap mode. I haven't noticed any sleepless issues that could be caused by the steroid, so I don't know.

    We didn't get outside today, probably not tomorrow either. The weather was pretty cool today and it is supposed to be rainy tomorrow.

    I have noticed the last couple of days I've had a really sore back. Like if I'm up trying to wash dishes or fold clothes by back just aches. I don't know what this is, but it's bad enough that I will have to sit down or even lay down to rest. I hope this stops.

    I haven't had much in the way of cravings either. I can't really stomah coffee either anymore....sucks because I'm a coffee lover too! I just have foods that I can stomach and others that I can't.

    Anyway, hope ya'll are doing okay. Stay brave sisters, chemo is not for the faint of heart! ((hugs)) 

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2014

    tangandchris steroids didn't bother me much either. Actually I loved them. Kept me from bloating up with fluid and I wasn't tired. I never had  problems sleeping on the steroids. Granted I don't think we are the norm.

  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited April 2014

    The steroids don't bother me, coming off of them does. The 2 days after chemo when I am taking them I am ok, symptoms are tolerable, in fact the day after chemo i feel fine. Its day 3&4 that suck, 4 being worse. I'm wondering, if I didn't take them, if day 3&4 would be better, but would day 1&2 be much worse? IDK, now I'm just rambling, my mind REALLY likes to play the what if game! One more dose of AC so I guess it doesn't matter. 

    Hugs to all, and goodnight!

  • h0pe
    h0pe Member Posts: 125
    edited April 2014

    The steroids are supposed to help with nausea. Maybe you can ask if you can just lower the dosage a lithe. I lowered mine, with MO ok. Instead of 8 mg, I do just 4mg the days following chemo. 

    Hair question - anybody losing body hair? I've lost some, but not all. Hair on legs seem to be all there. Or is body hair loss kind of like head? I have lost most hair on the top of head, and have a good amount on the sides. Just wondering....

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited April 2014


    Well as one that does not get steroids after infusion, my first 2-3 days are bad. Now I wonder if the steroid would make a difference on that front. I hate steroids though, so I'm not going to mess with it.

    I've lost some body hair, pubic hair to be exact lol. I shaved my legs either after my 1st or 2nd tx and haven't had to since then. So far I haven't lost eyebrows or lashes.

     

  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited April 2014

    my under arms and legs haven't grown back since my last shave around 2 weeks ago, one minuscule silver lining to all of this!!. Pubes are thinning, eyelashes and brows still present. I shaved my head but before I did that, it thinned on the sides more than the top. 

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited April 2014


    speaking of head shaving.....did ya'll shave it down to the skin with a razor? I have stubbles on my head and I'm just curious.

    I also have a goofy question, my fingernails are still growing and strong as ever. Shouldn't they be like the hair and at least not growing?

  • 3doglady
    3doglady Member Posts: 50
    edited April 2014

    I lost 98.5% of my hair on my head.  My MO told me to just buz it, but I really just wanted to experience the process.  I cut off 6 inches before chemo, and then cut a little each week, then stopped.  Even though its nearing bald and very short, I'm looking quite "bride of frankenstein-ish."  I also get what I call mini hot flashes: mild heat that covers my head and chest during the day and at night.  Nothing severe yet, but sure its due to the chemo affecting hormones.  I spend a lot of time with what feels like a fullness in my neck and head.  And then the mini hot flares.  

    With the neulasta shots, My lower back would have mild spasms, but on the taxol - one week only - I have what equates to arthritis aches.  If it wasnt chemo, I might think I had arthritis in many areas of my body.  Sleeping at night pretty well, but if I wake up in the early morning, harder to get back to sleep.  The steroids didnt bother my energy with the AC as much as the compizine.  So I took day one after chemo the compizine, but not the other days.  Steroids with infusion and days 2-4 in pill format.  

    Regarding skin, yes, everythings dry and more wrinkly than I remember before chemo. But maybe my hair distracted me? Lol? When I wear my hats in public and see people I know,  I have to remind them who I am because I do not look like myself.  That hurts, but sometimes I dont recognize myself either. We are all on a strong transformational journey, inside and out. 

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2014

    h0pe yup I lost almost all of it. DH liked the free Brazilian. 

    tangandchris I never shaved my head. A few hairs never fell out so I did have to cut them short when my hair started to grow back... I'm sure they eventually fell off. linky (check 3.4.11)

    nails, grow slower than hair and toenails grow much slower than fingernails so maybe that's why.

  • 3doglady
    3doglady Member Posts: 50
    edited April 2014

    Thank you, KAT.  That is the most reasuring information I have received regarding the pain on lumpectomy side!

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited April 2014

    I think my counts did not recover after the AC. I had 2 doses of Procrit (moderate dose) and continued to drop.   Yesterday I had 1 Unit of PRBC's and it definitely put a little color back in my face.   I did not feel dramatically different, but I am day 2 days after Taxol.

    It will be interesting to see how my counts are Thursday when I go for #4 of Taxol.

  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited April 2014

    jb-have been thinking about you!!!!! Keeping my fingers crossed for those numbers!!

    Tang-I cut my hair short first, a boy hair cut as my son called it, then when it started to fall out I buzzed it. But I buzzed it too short (sinead oconnor short) and it poked me in the head and was EXTREMELY itchy as it continued to fall out. So I razored it. On the top like a Mohawk I see all the little dark dots that are still hanging on, and there are a few hairs here and there that I probably missed but nothing is growing. 

  • lgoldie
    lgoldie Member Posts: 120
    edited April 2014


    Chris:


    Im on your schedule.  Last AC coming up Thursday and First Taxol 2 weeks later.  I despise the Dexamethasone, but I know it is for the nausea so I do it.  Day 4, first day off is the weakest most pathetic thing ever.   Are you nervous about the taxol changeover?

    ANYONE ELSE HAVE THIS CRAP SECTION:

    Sore palms and soles of feet

    Yeast in throat and esophagus.....hurts to swallow     Swishing and swallowing Nystatin    diarrhea

    Hoarse

    dry eyes....remember I have the answer to this one from my visit to the opthmologist

    I want to get a manicure before Taxol, fingernails and cuticles getting weird (not vanity)   Have my own kit.  Any thoughts?



  • Brwneyedgirl
    Brwneyedgirl Member Posts: 113
    edited April 2014

    TCH #4 down. I used zophran after rounds 1 & 2.  Very dizzy and bad headaches. Round 3 we tried compazine and that made me really dizzy, worse than the zophran plus I was very anxious. So this time we are trying Ativan.  So far so good.  Oh and lucky me I am beginning to retain water so a little water pill was added to the mix.

    Igoldie I have been getting my nails done the entire time without a problem.  Good luck

    Have a good week

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2014

    lgoldie:

    Sore palms and soles of feet
    Yes I had that on my feet. Sounds like neuropathy... you must report this to your onc.

    Yeast in throat and esophagus.....hurts to swallow 
    No but ask your onc for a prescription to treat this. It's called Thrush. It can be challenging so the sooner you treat it the better. I won't damage anything but  must be treated. It happens so some of us.

    Swishing and swallowing Nystatin diarrhea
    I went the other way and got constipation. What ever you use to treat be sure not to over treat or you'll end up with the constipation. Don't eat foods that will make you go like dried fruit, beans. Metamucil is good for both diarrhea and constipation.

    Hoarse
    Do you have heartburn? This could be acid reflux. I had on chemo but got it treated before I got so bad that I got hoarse. If not that I'm not sure. Check with doctor. It may be related to the thrush too.

    dry eyes....remember I have the answer to this one from my visit to the opthmologist
    I had this. Eyes watered like you wouldn't believe. Try using artificial tears... and don't get the stuff that gets the red out.

    I want to get a manicure before Taxol
    Good you have your own kit. If your onc says OK then why not.

  • h0pe
    h0pe Member Posts: 125
    edited April 2014

    My fingernails are growing stronger than ever too, although I do have darkening. Starting taxol next week so it should be interesting to see what happens. Thinking about trying the finger nail painting, but not sure how I will react to the smell of nail polish remover. Smells that resemble alcohol makes me nauseated.

    I still have plenty of body hair! Do you lose hair on taxol as well? I'm a little worried. Hope they are giving me enough chemo. My weight has dropped significantly and I know the dosages are weight based. I've lost nearly 20 lbs since diagnosis. 

    Razor - be careful not to cut yourself with razor. I used clippers.

    Does anyone get ringing in their ears? 

  • h0pe
    h0pe Member Posts: 125
    edited April 2014

    Jbok - you're on #4 already?! woohoo! How are your symptoms coming along? Wow, it's moving pretty fast. 

  • Sicilian
    Sicilian Member Posts: 49
    edited April 2014

    Yes, I have thrush, get it for a few days after each treatment. I find that eating Greek yogurt and taking acidophilus gets rid of it quickly. And, the skin, and eyes and the hoarse voice comes and goes, especially in the morning. I also get the occasional nosebleed, despite my humidifier cranking away each night.

    My hair started falling out about 8 days after my first treatment. I have some wispy remainders, but I may shave them. They just make me look like an old man. My brows and lashes have thinned, but are hanging in there. The rest of my body hair, though, is gone and hasn't returned. My mom had cancer back in the 1970s, and she said her leg and underarm hair never really grew back like it was before treatments, even though she never lost the hair on her head. 

    My stomach woes follow the same routine each time. I am constipated for the first 48 to 72 hours followed by diarrhea for several days. That usually doesn't let up until about day 8.

    Who knew that we could all deal with this? But we do. And I like to think we do it with class and grace.

  • Sicilian
    Sicilian Member Posts: 49
    edited April 2014

    Just started running a fever. My doctor called in an antibiotic for me and I have to go to the office tomorrow and have my CBC checked.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2014

    h0pe some people do get tinnitus (ringing in ears) with chemo. I did not.

    I think I have a total of 9 underarm hairs (total for both arms). Never did grow back after chemo. leg hair less to but I still need to shave. This could all be due to chemo-pause and anastrozole.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited April 2014

    Yes, I developed tinnitus during TCH.  It reduced in intensity over time, but I still have it as a permanent side effect.  Fortunately for me, I only notice it every now and again now.  I have learned to tune it out, and I think it has also reduced in intensity.  

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited April 2014

    Hand and Foot Syndrome-  Basically, the chemo settles into those tissues through the capillaries  I was suffering from it before I started icing through Taxol.  The skin on my feet was drying and peeling like a blister would (without any watery pockets).  I got some good self-care information from the doc like foot soaks with Epsom salts, Udder cream and socks!   I also find that the Sally Hansen Triple Strength Nail protector helps too. 

    I had the transfusion of 1 unit of packed cells.  I did not feel like a newborn ninja afterward, but my color improved.   I feel better today but found out my counts are slightly improved, but still low. Apparently, more Procrit and IV iron will be on the menu with treatment number 4 on Thursday.

    My smooth-shaved head now has a 5o'clock shadow.   I don't know weather to expect my hair to continue to grow in during Taxol or if this is a tease.  I had white/platinum hair so its what I feel is still a bit 'invisable'.

    We are getting married on June 29th, just 3 weeks after finishing my last Taxol......will I need to bedazzle my head more or  sport a short cut??  

    A before and after....whew!

    image

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  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited April 2014


    Hi jbokland-I love your pics! :) You are a cutie!! I'm not sure about the hair growth thing, but congrats on the wedding. :)

    So, the last few days I've had a terrible back ache. It's mostly between my shoulders, but also goes down to my mid-back. It's awful and I wonder if this could have anything to do with the seroma on my left chest wall. Could this be connected, or purely coincedental. Can chemo cause achey body stuff? Is this nuelasta?? The seroma was drained on Thursday, but it i back. :(

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2014

    tangandchris When did you do the nuelasta? That always bothered my back... the first was the worst. I couldn't even stand up straight for 2 days after the first one. But it shouldn't be getting worse. Call your MD. Remember you are paying big bucks for cancer care (with the help of insurance). Your onc really does want to know these things.

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited April 2014


    I've been getting nuelasta since my first tx...so my last shot was 11 days ago.

    You are right, we are paying out the ying-yang for this stuff so I need to call.

  • princessrn
    princessrn Member Posts: 370
    edited April 2014

    tang... Do you get neulasta shot?  Might be your cause for backache. 

    JB... Happy wedding!

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited April 2014

    Tangandchris

    Thanks for your kind words!

    Do you get any relief from Advil or Tylenol with the back pain?  Are you using the ClaritanD before/during/after the Neulasta?

    I am having some general muscle aches from the Taxol, mostly my upper legs, especially after going out for a walk.

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited April 2014


    I haven't tried the claritin...but I didn't start feeling these aches until this week. I have some Norco left that my BS gave me for the seroma pain, but to be honest it just takes the edge off.

    I went for a short walk with the dog and my 4 year old. Wow..wore me out! :)

  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited April 2014

    jb. You are gorgeous!! Before and after!! Congrats on the wedding!!! 

    Tang the neulasta ache only lasts a few days, a I would def call the Onc. They really do want to know. Hope they can help you and it's not a that stinks for you cause you are on chemo problem!!

    This cycle for me is the first time I didn't go back to baseline on my good week. I went shopping today and by the time I was done I felt like I ran a marathon. Kind of messed with my mind a little. I have one more AC then weekly taxol. Hate to feel this way but I'm not sure how I'm gonna do this. Praying taxol will be more gentle on me!

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