Starting Chemo in April 2014
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I will be starting chemo later this month. It sounds like many of us have undergone the drama of starting out believing that our treatment would be simple, only to discover later that it would be more complicated. At first I was told that I could do just a lumpectomy and then radiation. But then I didn't get clean margins, so there was a second, and third lumpectomy. My biopsy pathology showed HER2 negative, but after the first lumpectomy, it came back positive. Therefore, chemo.
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LovieLovie - thanks so much for dropping by to offer support. I definitely need to hear more stories of, yeah that sucked, but it was manageable.
Kazzy - I know what you mean. I met with my MO yesterday and received my protocol. Even though I knew I would get chemo due to my magnificently high oncotype score, I was shocked to learn it would be 4 of AC every three weeks and then 12 of taxol weekly. 12! I felt like someone kicked me. My husband is retiring from the navy in October. I was hoping to be on the mend by then and maybe have a little bit of hair. As it turns out I will still be in active treatment, boohoo. I am, however, finding comfort in statistics. They tell me I will be reducing my recurrence rate from 31% to <12%.
EverForward - I too thought I might escape the chemo express. My MO thought so too until the dreaded oncotype dx. As soon as I get a handle on this whole thing something changes and sends me reeling again. I would so prefer a happy surprise.
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kazzy115 Haven't considered the cold cap but I plan to look in to it. I appreciate your warmth towards me. As I am always cold physically and many times emotionally. Thank you for your wisdom. I will continue my journey with positive thoughts and feel the warmth from all my sisters. Any advice I could get about dealing with my anger and my avoidance of normal life is greatly appreciated. I feel like you ladies are really the only ones I can talk too.
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Blueberry4 It is the lady in you that makes the person in me stand up and realize how lucky I am. God bless you and may your husband return to you to embrace you. I have my husbands embrace every day and I still guess I take it for granted. I am humbled and pray for you STAY STRONG. We will all get through this!
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I am going to my chemo class this morning (starting chemo 4/17) I just feel kind of sad and a bit anxious. Most of the time I am ready to fight but I am feeling overwhelmed about this and just sad. Thanks for listening.
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Hi LovebeingNana. I am feeling much the same way. First meeting with MO and RO has left me overwhelmed and sad, very teary the last 24 hours. I wonder if I have what it takes to do this and how to muster the resolve to forge ahead. This morning I'm not feeling my body or mind can handle it. Know I'll find it though as no action is not an option - too much at stake. A fellow BCO member shared with me that "you don't have to be strong, you just have to show up." I suspect some days that might be all I can cover. I am already finding I rely so much on all the women here and their shared experience.
I hope your class helps allieviate the anxiety and helps you feel that you're doing all you need to in order to have many, many healthy tomorrows. Keep us updated - let's do this!
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I will be meeting with my MO on Friday to find out what I will be doing...and although I am looking forward to getting this going I know that I will leave his office sad. I had one appt with him already - before my surgery and it was the ONLY time that I cried at a doctor's office since this all started. I don't know why - but as soon as the nurse started to take my blood my eyes teared up and I was choked up the whole time I was there. Something about that place made everything so much more real and so much scarier. Here is my philosophy at this point. I will be as strong as I can - I will show up and when I need to I am gonna cry and cry hard. I had to have that discussion with my daughter last night - she is 28 and everytime I am upset by this BC she says "you are strong - keep positive etc etc" I finally told her that I know she means well but there are only a few people that I feel like I can be weak around - her and my hubby and that on those days at that time please don't say "be strong, stay positive" just say "I know it feels like shit and I love you and cry if you need to" I hope she understood.
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So it looks like I will be joining this group. My name is Jaimie and this is round 2 of my journey. I believe that I will be getting AC x4 Taxol x12 with herceptin and perjeta for the year. I had my lumpectomy yesterday and a port placed and will most likely be starting chemo on April 28 or 29.
The reason that my chemo maybe changed is that there are not a lot of case studies about someone who had a double mastectomy and recurs in residual breast tissue but I seem to be the unlucky one. I did have a PET after diagnosis and I am clear every place else so now I start on my insurance (aka chemo) again.
My last time I did TCH.
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Hi Linda, nice to see you over on this board as well. I'm handling the chemo part of this better than the possible mastectomy, which continues to loom over me. Even when I got the phone call from the nurse telling me that my HER2 came back positive, a part of me already knew that chemo was in my future. The more I learn about the chemo the better I feel. Some aspects of it will truly suck, but I don't think it will be as horrible as I first imagined. I met with the med onc yesterday and I have a treatment plan. That helps me feel somewhat in control. Now I just need to go wig shopping and put together a chemo goodie bag.
Screw being strong. All you have to be is a survivor. Do whatever you have to do to get there.
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Hey Everforward - think we will be shadowing each other for the next year or so LOL - both surgeries in March, both triple positive and both starting chemo in April - aren't we lucky LOL. Hope you can avoid the mastectomy if that is your desire but I will tell you that other than a few stumbling blocks - with a little healing issue - the mastectomy was not bad at all - wasn't as painful as when i had my appendix out and recovery seems to be about the same. And you are right - that is all we have to do is be a survivor!
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Mikishelly - thank you for the kind words. Luckily my husband is not currently deployed, so he is with me and is tremendously supportive. I am incredibly thankful for him everyday.
Kazzy - thank you for your post. I am not strong, but I can show up. I've been battling healing issues from my bmx and lost. Tomorrow I will be having a quick surgery to remove my sick/dead tissue. I've been telling family and friends that it's no big deal, just a little unzip of the incision, a little work, and then rezip. But really I'm scared and don't want to do it. I'm going to keep repeating, "just show up, just show up". Like Dori in Finding Nemo, "just keep swimming,just keep swimming".
Jamie - welcome, I'm so sorry you are on your second go around.
Everforward - I really hope your margins come back clear, really, really.
Linda - my mom is the "positive" thinker. She seems to think that if I had more positive thoughts, I might not need chemo. I hope your daughter listens and supports you the way you need. I think it's great that you are able to be so open with her. I need to take a lesson from you and ask for the type of support I need.
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Kazzy, sounds like we will be having the same chemo treatment and radiation. I will just be ahead of you by a couple of weeks, as I start this Monday, 4/7, with AC>T regimen. I am also scheduled to get my port in on 4/16 now. They will just have to use a regular IV for my first chemo. At this point I am ready to get started and just walk through it one day at a time. So glad to have all of you gals along side to walk this path with and those giving words of encouragement that have already been through it.
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Looks like I'm going to be in a lot of pockets this week! ColdInCanada I'll be in yours tomorrow, Wampuscat be there on Monday, LongIsland8y I will see you Tuesday, Clarn you are my Wednesday appointment and LngDstncNuWife2012 I will finish my week with you on Friday. Did I miss anyone?
When you are in chemo, focus on chemo and nothing else. If you are having radiation, surgery or anything else plan to turn that page later. Stay hydrated and don't get injured (translates: be careful around the kitchen knifes). If you are wearing your wig don't stick your head in the oven, they don't do so well with heat... yep, first hand experience. Take help. Let your kids step up its really good for them. I cherish my then 17 year old sons story of his first trip to the grocery store and how all of the ladies were helping him in the aisles! I had even made a schematic of the store for him. He was so proud to be doing something to help his mommy and his mommy was learning to be humble.
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I almost forgot. My dietician said if all you can get down is a milkshake then have a milkshake. ;-)
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what an incredible team we are building. Such warmth you're all sharing,
Lovielovie.- thanks for the wisdom. It makes perfect sense. And a wonderful story of your son, it totally made me smile!
Blueberry4 - will keep you in my thoughts tomorrow. How traumatic to put your body through the first surgery only to have to fix it again Wishes for an easy go, I'll be sending as much healing energy as I can to you. Swimming is right! Just be there, you'll recognize the strength it took to do that and every step thereafter in the not too distant future.
Wampumcat- so sorry to hear we have that in common. I understand from my team this protocol is the best they have to knock this out. But the drugs are powerful and a bit frightening I believe I've made up my mind to move forward but it's a bit unsettling. I am torn between wanting to learn everything and all the risks and SEs and wanting to tune it all out. Will keep you in my thoughts as well this weekend and early next week.
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I am definitely in the I don't want to know SE camp. At first all I did was worry and research and now I'm sort of in denial. I got my husband to look it up and make me my chemo kit. If he forgot anything, he'll be the one running out to get anyway
I puked 8 months of pregnancy to get my daughter, so I can puke 5 months to stay with her.
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Ladies, I wish I could hug you all in person! I would just shout GROUP HUG and then SQUEEZE you all to my half-a-bosom.
Jaimieh: I am so sorry you are here again.
This has been hard enough for me the first time around - I can not even imagine what it must be like to have to do it all over again. Sending hugs and healing your way.
LovieLovie: THANK YOU for your wisdom. I confess I am worried about side effects and eating and vomiting and mouth sores and all sorts of nasty other things. My 11-year-old daughter today finally said to me "MOM! GEEZ! Why are worrying about something that has NOT even happened yet?!" Ah, yes, and the student surpasses the teacher. At least I know she's listening to me, right?
Truthfully, it is just so hard to know what to expect, and the unknown is SCARY.
clarrn: I have the same thinking as you regarding the nausea and vomiting (although my oncologist assures me that they "have meds for that!"). I spent TWO pregnancies vomiting. Throughout the ENTIRE pregnancies, from start to finish. The second one was worse than the first - I used to get up in the middle of the night to throw up the remainder of the food I had eaten the day before. And I would choose my meals based on what they'd be like coming back up. Gross, I know. I was there. EW. But I figure if I can endure THAT, I can totally, without a DOUBT endure THIS. If it happens, because, well, my daughter makes an excellent point.
Blueberry4: You are STRONG. You are STRONG STRONG STRONG! You ARE! You are a WOMAN! Women give birth - even if you haven't, you CAN. Because your BODY and your MIND are STRONG. And when you feel you are not, you JUST KEEP SWIMMING, because the people around you, physically, and in spirit, we have GOT YOUR BACK. And truly? SHOWING UP is STRENGTH. It's all in the definition, Friend. You are amazing. *high five to you*
Tomorrow is THE DAY. Chemo begins. I have a bag of goodies packed, bought some new games on the ipad, and I'm...ready. One day at a time, right? BTW, I started Dexamethasone today, and WHOA, that stuff is potent. Especially for someone who gets a little loopy on extra strength Tylenol. A little dizzy, and a little giddy. Plus, it's giving me a headache. And that's all I have to complain about, so, YEAH, I'm pretty okay with that.
Saying prayers and Waving my pompoms for you all!
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Exactly my feelings. Rest assured that will be theirs too.
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Keeping on our treatment plans is the only thing we must do. Our families, God and each other will get us all through the rest. So whether it is stay strong, show up or cry your eyes out- today tomorrow and every day from here on out we will all just do it.( Love Nike!) So to all my sisters everyday will be different just please pick yourself up or ask someone else to pick you up. We WILL SURVIVE!
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I have to say I have no idea what I am supposed to have in a a chemo bag. My port placement is Monday and my first chemo is Tuesday I am only taking a recorder for the nurse education. I had no idea I might need something else! Feeling totally in the dark right now, and it still has not hit me yet. No tears, just moving forward with my calendar..
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mikishelley: I'm not entirely sure what others are packing, but for my Chemo day tomorrow, I've packed a couple of books (an old 1940s Mystery, and a funny one - NOTHING SAD or PROFOUND. Pack FLUFF, someone told me. FLUFF is easy), an ipad, magazines, SNACKS, a water bottle, headphones, lotion, lip balm, hand sanitizer, Tylenol, kleenex, and I MAY pack a cross stitch I'm working on as well. I was told it is a LONG day, with very little do except SIT THERE. I'm also bringing my husband (though he doesn't QUITE fit IN the Chemo bag), so I can yap at him for a while too, and send him for food (it'll be like a DATE! Ha ha ha!).
Tears are OKAY. They are. They are NOT a sign of weakness, but a sign of being HUMAN. I will try to post again this weekend and give an account of how the day went, and maybe it will give you some insight into what to pack, and what to expect. I am nervous, but tonight I say to myself: "At this time tomorrow, I will only have FIVE Chemo treatments left." And that makes me smile.
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Good luck and positive thoughts to you all starting chemo today and tomorrow and lovielovie - I must say I am still laughing about the wig in the oven comment!!
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For those of you who are getting A/C T, you may be getting Benadryl in your premeds which can make you sleepy. That is why you have to have someone drive you home. Am. cancer has a volunteer driver program for those who need rides to and from chemo.
I didn't read a whole lot. I usually would bring my laptop & headphones bring a few dvd's and just veg out or doze.
The premeds are effective. Bring a snack or two but make sure they are not smelly. You will be a little more sensitive to smell as well as everyone else in the room.
In a good infusion room, the nurses will bring you a warm blanket, a pillow, a snack, something to drink or even lunch if you forgot one. Just realize they want you to be comfortable. Chemo nurses are really special people. Did everyone get emla/lidocaine ( prescription ) cream? You put it on well before they access your port and it really helps. No need to hurt! What hurts is pulling off the industrial strength bandaids they use afterwards. I always asked for gauze & tape. You will be amazed at the amount of 'normal' looking people that are there...just getting treatment and living their lives. I worked (just less) and played (more). Make someone close to you in charge of scheduling 1 fun thing to do each week. I have a good friend who did this. Sometimes we would go to the movies, out to lunch or gold panning (in my ratty/frizzy blonde wig perfect for the river ha!).
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hi Ladies and good luck to you all as you begin yr chemo journeys
I did TC for 4 rounds last year
I never had any nausea or vomiting. Make sure you keep yr fluids up and try to keep as normal a routine as possible
I found a spreadsheet for each cycle helping me keep track of symptoms, food, temp, weight , etcetc. Then it was good to look back on previous cycles and see the prehaps the next day was going to be even easier - it follows a definate pattern
I worked P/t and still played 18holes of golf once or twice a week
Chemo is very doable ( I would prefer not to have to repeat it) - and make sure your bowels are regular especially in the first 5 days of each cycle
Feel free to PM with any Qs or queries I hope you all find it as doable as I did.
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Ladies, I am sitting here watching the last few drops of Taxotere drip down the tube. We started with 1.5 hours of Herceptin, and that was a breeze. And the worst thing I can say about Taxotere is that it made my face red. Then a 10 minute wait, and then half an hour of Carboplatin, and then I get to go home.
SO the worst thing I can say about the whole process is that it is long and boring. Bring lots of interesting things to do. The most exciting thing that happened here today was my allergic reaction to the steroid that is supposed to prevent allergic reactions. Ironic, no?
I will keep you all posted on the SEs to come, but first day of chemo? Not so scary after all.
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yippee coldincan. Glad it was pretty uneventful. Silly allergic reaction
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Got a chemo start schedule - dependent on the healing of my incision - PS doesn't want me to start chemo until I am a little more healed - MO wants me to get going LOL. Anyway I will be doing 4 rounds of Adriamycin and Cytosan - every two weeks, then I will be doing Taxol and Herceptin every week for 12 weeks and will end up with Herceptin to finish out a year - ughh - not what I wanted to hear was hoping for a kinder/ gentler chemo - but it is what it is...as it stands now start date of April 18th
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ColdinCanada~ You are right it is a LONG and boring day. I had a similar allergic reaction with the taxotere but it eventually stopped.
So Tuesday I go to the BS to get my final pathology and hopefully I will have had clean margins from surgery. Then back to the MO to re-hash the treatment plan. My MO recommends 4 AC's dose dense and then 12 weekly taxol, Herceptin and perjeta's than followed by a year of Herceptin and perjeta together. I can say for anyone who is receiving vitamin H I had very minimal SE's from it the first time. I am hoping for a repeat this time.
I still feel like this is a horrible dream but eventually I hope to make some peace with it
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Like many of you, I wasn't expecting chemo. I was diagnosed with DCIS through a diagnostic mammogram, MRI and biopsy. It wasn't until the pathology from the lumpectomy that a "surprise" area of IDC was discovered. I was devastated with a higher end oncotype score and the chemo recommendation. But...chemo wasn't nearly as bad I imagined. I got through it just fine and I'm glad I had it.
I just had to comment about "being strong". It really got on my nerves after a while when people kept commenting that I was "so strong". I wasn't that strong. I was just doing what I had to do to get through it. Believe me,I had many pity parties, although usually late at night when no one else was around. During the day I was consumed with my normal daily life. A crying jag once in a while is good for the soul.
I started chemo a year ago this month and I'm happy to report that life does get back to normal..You will all get through this, it's just a little unexpected detour.
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hi ladies, I'm not sure when I will be starting chemo, but I read through some of your posts and wanted to join in. I found a lump a few weeks ago, had a biopsy positive for cancer, then met with my surgical oncologist who did the lumpectomy this past Wednesday and found out on Friday that 2 out of the 3 SN had cancer, my margins were clean but they found pre-cancer cells on 2 sides, and my tumor was a grade 3. The good news in all of that is that it was positive for estrogen and progesterone, so it will respond to hormone therapy. But, I will also need chemotherapy. That was the big hit down to my core.
I'm still waiting to hear if he wants to go back in to remove the precancerous tissue, he wanted to bring it up to the board at the mayo clinic. So, there could be another surgery before chemo. I should hear that answer in a few days, and my follow up is in 2 weeks. I will also meet with my MO that day as well.
So that's my story, I'm trying to get prepared for chemo, but I'm really scared. Jc254, thank you for sharing your experience its encouraging to know that you kept a pretty normal routine through it all. And your hair! I will definitely be doing cold caps.
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