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  • flagirl
    flagirl Member Posts: 144
    edited March 2014

    Welcome ladies-

    I am in starting my second week Monday and I have only slight pinkness, so far.  No itching or peeling.  I wash with Aveeno moisturizing liquid soap and use unburn once when I get back from tx before putting on Aquafore.  I apply Aquafore a couple of times before I go to bed to make sure the skin stays moist.  You don't have to gob it on, just a thin coat.  The main side effect I get is breast gets warm for a few hours afterward and I get the chills for about four hours like when you get a sunburn.  By the next morning the skin returns to almost normal except for tanned a little more and I feel good. We are here for you.  The biggest complaint I have is those damn majik marker pen marks all over the breast instead of tats.  I would much rather have three dots than eight inch markings all over my breast.  They told me I can touch it up myself on the weekend if it wears off.  Well, I am not gonna do that.  It's their job and responsibility to get those markings accurate and I am not about to relinquish them of their duty.  I am wondering what those chemicals are doing to my skin being applied day after day for six weeks.  Ok I am done--just sayin  Enjoy the two days off I felt great today had boundless energy.  Got caught up on house cleaning/chores.

  • QuirkyGirl
    QuirkyGirl Member Posts: 383
    edited March 2014

    hi ladies and welcome!  I've had 8 of 30 done and so far barely a SE. A bit of pinkness and my nipple is a little sensitive but that's it.  I think I'm in the sweet spot of chemo wearing off and any rad SE not yet kicking in because this is the best I've felt in months!   My claustrophobia is gone and now I just view the experience as something akin to being slid in and out of a pizza oven because of the way the table moves.  It makes me laugh.  The position they have me in is still really awkward but it's better than chemo, better than post op and only takes a few minutes each day.

  • smrlvr
    smrlvr Member Posts: 422
    edited March 2014

    Hi ladies, I have a question for you.  I went back to work last week; I am a teacher, so I am on my feet a lot.  I can't believe how tired my body is.  All my muscles ache and I feel really old every morning when I wake up.  Before miming back to work I walk walking 3.5 miles a day and was fine.  Now that same walk makes my legs tired.  I am not used to wearing shoes every day and carrying bags with papers and books.  So my shoulders are tired too.  This never used to bother me.  Are any of you achy?

  • QuirkyGirl
    QuirkyGirl Member Posts: 383
    edited March 2014

    so achy and things just hurt!  My feet are still sensitive and bother me after awhile.  My overall strength is still way down from normal.  This week I found I could have about four hours of energy and feeling well then the fatigue would hit.  And yesterday I woke up worn out and stayed that way until late afternoon.  I think recovery comes in fits and starts and is a two steps forward, one step back kind of deal.  Hope things are better this week.

  • Animallvr
    Animallvr Member Posts: 6
    edited March 2014

    Hi all. Glad I found this thread - thank you for starting it and keeping it going. I had my last chemo a little over a week ago and am meeting with RO Monday to get the plan together, so am just trying to get my thoughts together to deal with this next "adventure."  

    My chemo nurse told me to start applying aloe (from the plant, not a store bough gel) right away and do it 2x day through radiation. I have been doing it so far but Of course I will now hear what RO has to say about that :) 

    I don't really have any questions or helpful tips (yet) but wanted to say hello and wish all of you the best through this journey. My New Years resolution for 2013 was to do something outside my comfort zone every week. Little did I know then how far that could go!

    I also read about the butterfly tattoos - I love the idea. I don't have any tattoos yet but thought I might get one when this is done - and be inspired by a connect-the-dots concept. But a butterfly would be a great symbol. And our yard is a Certified Butterfly garden so it would be appropriate.  

    I thought I might also go rent a Harley after I get my radiation tattoos - while I am still bald and often wear a bandana - seems like yet another "look"/adventure :) 

    Best to all!

    Cindy

  • MsJean63
    MsJean63 Member Posts: 42
    edited March 2014

    Hi ladies,

    Today I had 20 of 33.  Yes, Sunday, they are upgrading the software on Friday and I needed to go in today to keep on track.  Horrible to have to go in on Sunday,  since I start living for the weekend on Thursday.  Need the weekend to recover.  But my sister pointed out next week I get a three day weekend.  Glad to say so far so good.  I use calendula twice a day and aquaphor once.  Tech told me today to start putting them both on at the same time.  I'm red, but that's it.  Get my port out tomorrow, yipee.  Yes, I'm tired, last Monday I went to radiation came home and slept until 3 o'clock.  Have to shave my legs for tomorrow, what a bummer :-)

  • Anneb1149
    Anneb1149 Member Posts: 960
    edited March 2014

    Hi everyone, 

    Would you believe I still have not gotten a start date on my Rads? It's been more than 4weeks since the CT and markings. All they will tell me is that they are still working on it. I have no idea if that is good or bad. Anyway, I finally told them on Thurs that I don't want to start this week. I have been sitting here for over a month waiting for their call. I could have been visiting my kids and grandkids in Fl. So I am going to drive over to Charlotte, NC to spend a few days with my 9 mo old granddaughter. Not crazy about driving that far by myself( it's about 3 1/2 hrs), but it's the only way to get there. I have driven it several times before with no problems, but not since dx and surgery. I'll only be there for a few days, they are having company next weekend, and for several weeks after that. I figure I will not be able to travel for at least 7 weeks once the Rads start, and I will feel a lot better after seeing the baby. 

  • Pam358
    Pam358 Member Posts: 294
    edited March 2014

    AnneB - good for you that you are going to go and see your family. It must be stressful just waiting!

    Smrlvr - I'm still achy too!  My leg muscles still have issues.  Whenever I stand up I seem to find the need to stand still for a couple of seconds before I can begin walking.  Then it takes a bit to get warmed up and going......and my legs get tired more easily than they did before.

    More winter storms this week in the area of my home to my treatment center so I'll be staying overnight in town again.  Usually I have early afternoon appointments but the machine is being worked on Tuesday so I have to go in at 7:30am so it will be nice to be in town already that day and not have to do the hour and 10 minute drive to get there. 

  • keepthefaith
    keepthefaith Member Posts: 2,156
    edited March 2014

    welcome newbies!

    I got a call from RO on Saturday, which freaked me out at first...thought something was wrong, since it was Saturday! But, just going over my planning...I am hoping to get a call by tomorrow to schedule my rads...seems like it's taking forever. Found out RO was on a vacation in between and that's what was holding things up. He was talking about "hot spots" and I should've asked him, but didn't think about it til we hung up. Does anyone know what that means? Anyway, he said I could  do the short regimen, but I am just over the guidelines, so will be doing the longer one... bc I have too much tissue...big boob, I guess is what he means! LOL. I will be glad to get it started anyway. Port removal on the 11th. Let's get this show on the road already! RO said NO lotions prior; will treat as needed.

    I hope you all that are having SE's feel better soon. My stamina is still not what it should be, but has improved. I have been trying to walk daily. Maybe that's helping. Definitely not as fast as I used to, but it's movement! I also need to lose a few pounds and deter my bone loss.

    Anne, enjoy your family time!

    Happy Monday everyone~

     

     


     

  • sunnyside70
    sunnyside70 Member Posts: 12
    edited March 2014

    Well today was rad treatment 20 of 31, everything is going far better than I could've ever expected.  I do not have any fatigue, aches, or pains.  I have a very mild sunburn, which is not bothersome at all and I get itchy every afternoon.  I have used/done exactly what my treatment center has told me to do, no variations.  I can't express enough that I do believe a positive attitude is the only way to go through this, it really does make the difference.  I have spoken with a couple of other women at the treatment center who have every side effect in the book - but their attitudes also reflect it.  My advice is to stay positive, put a smile on your face and be happy that you are graced with life.  As soon as I am done with radiation, I will be taking Tamoxifen for the next 5 years - I'm not expecting any issues with that, and my cancer fight will be one for the WIN COLUMN!  

  • StillRunningNLM
    StillRunningNLM Member Posts: 81
    edited March 2014

    Hi Ladies,

    I finished 30/33 txs with the last 7 being boosts this morning. I was overwhelmed and scared at the beginning also.  There are still times when I feel like my heart is racing when I think too much about what I have been through and what the future may hold.  But, my treatment team and my support system have been phenomenal.  My best advice to those of you who are starting out - give yourself a few moments to acknowledge your thoughts and feel the emotions (without getting stuck in a negative place) while you are going through treatment.  Locking it all away is not healthy or helpful.  If you need to, find someone you can talk to about.  Cancer is real and scary but you can and will make it through this :)

    I started noticing pinkness and heat on my radiated breast after the first treatment.  I was already starting to swell after the third treatment.  I found that those SEs lessened over the weekends and returned again after Mondays treatments.  I also found that I was having mild fatigue on and off throughout the day after the first week.   I had been managing these minor SEs well, but last week was tough.  The fatigue seems to be catching up with me, even though I have been able to keep it minimal by continuing to exercise.  I feel tired enough now that ever day life issues make me want to scream and run.  Oh, and I have been getting teary-eyed very easily too.  I also developed a chaffed area in the under arm on the side that is being treated.  It was from my damp sports bra during a 6 mile run (that hasn't been an issue until last Wed).  The nurse gave me a hydrogel pack, said to continue to use the Radiagel twice a day and to use 1% hydrocortisone cream (a mild steroid) three times a day.  It was really sore Thurs and Fri, but I managed to get my 10 mile run in without any extra irritation on Sat and it finally started scabbing over yesterday afternoon.  The best news is that the area is not part of the treatment area for my boosts, so it can just continue to heal.  

    I have been careful to drink plenty of water, follow all of the instructions my team has given, continued to exercise and refrained from trying anything that my team doesn't recommend or says to avoid.  I have been told by the nurse and the doctor, that although my treated breast has been hot, blotchy red and itchy for a few weeks, my skin has held up extremely well and so have I.  I was glad the boosts started when they, because my nipple was extremely sensitive at that point.  It has not gotten worse, but it is very slow to feel better, even with aquaphor.

    I have a one month follow up scheduled with the doctor and have been told to continue the Radiagel and other prescribed treatments until all signs of the treatment have gone away.  I have also been told that I should use a 15 SPF on the entire treated area religiously for a full year after the treatment ends.  Radiated skin reacts poor to sunlight and I do not want to experience that.  I have also been told that I will be getting a mammogram every 6 months as part of "being watched closely".  I am also scheduled to resume Tamoxifen on April 7.

    Stay strong, be well and kick cancers butt!

  • MaryFox
    MaryFox Member Posts: 121
    edited March 2014

    First rads this morning.  I'm so glad to get this started and have an end date for tx.   There's a light at the end of the tunnel.


  • Caking0923
    Caking0923 Member Posts: 3
    edited March 2014


    Hi Everyone! I start on 4/9. Dr has scheduled 37 sessions. Due to my oncotype score of 9 I was able to skip chemo. Hope I made the right choice. But, I feel confident. PET scan was clear. Thank you all for being here!

  • lonnie713
    lonnie713 Member Posts: 236
    edited March 2014

    hi all:

    For those of you that are in the midst of rads, have you experienced lymphedema? I was reading that rads can cause it.  I don't start until the 16th and already have mild swelling from the lymph node removal and don't want it to get worse.  Suggestions....

  • keepthefaith
    keepthefaith Member Posts: 2,156
    edited March 2014

    Finally got the call that I will start rads tomorrow!!!

    I cut the rest of my pre-chemo hair, that endured the chemo, today, to match my stubbles. I kind of like it, actually!

     

     


     

  • flagirl
    flagirl Member Posts: 144
    edited April 2014

    well tired of the majik markers aquafore takes them off. Anyone else having trouble keeping the markings? They asked me if I want tattoos. Can anyone give me advice I have 27 more to go.  How many tats did you get? Suggestions on how to keep marks on?  thanks

  • flagirl
    flagirl Member Posts: 144
    edited April 2014

    well tired of the majik markers aquafore takes them off. Anyone else having trouble keeping the markings? They asked me if I want tattoos. Can anyone give me advice I have 27 more to go.  How many tats did you get? Suggestions on how to keep marks on?  thanks

  • BigDBeatingBigC
    BigDBeatingBigC Member Posts: 292
    edited April 2014

    Keepthefaith:  "Hot spots" were described to me as the area under your breast as well as the scar where my two nodes were removed under the arm.  My RO said that our bodies are constantly regenerating skin cells, they fall off by the millions every day and our system is always replacing them.  Radiation slows down the regeneration process, slowly, over the course of the treatment.  The "hot spots" are created by the fact that the skin cells are not regenerating as fast AND there is movement -- when you walk, your arms swing back and forth automatically, and that is enough to make that scar under your arm more sensitive as the radiation does its thing.  Same thing for the area under your breast, when you move, the skin there moves with you.  That is why it is important to keep those areas well lubricated with whatever cream/gel your treatment team recommends.  I have been freeboobing it the whole time.  I purchased 3 cotton tank tops and I wear one under my clothing instead of wearing bras.  Has worked well so far for me.  Good luck with your start tomorrow!  You will do fine.

    Stillrunning, good info in your message.  Congrats on being nearly done!!  I am using RadiaGel as well and it is working very well for me.  I purchased some Aquaphor which I have been using on my nipple, and today I put in an order for Emu oil as I have read many good things about it as well.  So far I have not had any color change or swelling.  I have completed 11 of 21.  I am feeling an occasional twinge of soreness right under the arm but it goes away quickly.  I still feel good and I work a very stressful and busy full time job.  You are so right about allowing yourself to feel emotions.  I could not agree more.

    I also agree with you, Sunnyside, attitude is critical for getting through this process.  I try to make my techs laugh every morning when I go in for my tx.  It absolutely helps to stay positive.

    Good luck Mary and Caking!  Let us know how you are doing throughout your treatments.

    flagirl, I actually lost 2 pieces of my tape this morning in the shower.  My techs told me to try and avoid the pieces of tape when I am putting on gel and not to scrub over them with a washcloth and try my best to protect them in the shower.  But if they fall off, they fall off, and today they replaced the ones they needed to and had no problem with it.  That is part of their job.  I have been as careful as I can and they will come off during treatment unless you are very lucky.  If you don't want to worry about losing the marks and you don't mind the tats, get them.  They do not offer tats where I am, you only get the marker with waterproof tape over it.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2014

    Good Afternoon Ladies,

    I've finished 25/31 today. Tomorrow I start the first of six boosts and I'm finished. I've had severe fatigue and some comprehension and memory problems, but my RO has determined that it isn't rad related. I also suffer from RA. My skin is holding up wonderfully. I haven't used anything on my skin other than Aloe Vera Gel once in awhile when I'm feeling sore. My underarm is tan but not red, and I have just a slight redness under my breast area. Hopefully that will continue. I will check in when finished with rads. Good luck to all that are starting, and congratulations to all that have finished!

  • Pam358
    Pam358 Member Posts: 294
    edited April 2014

    Lonnie - I don't have any swelling yet, but have also been warned that there is an increased chance of lymphedema with radiation. I went to see an OT who specializes in lymphedema prior to radiation to get her opinion on prevention and to have that relationship established should I need her.  So you might want to get a PT or OT referral if you haven't already.  We also worked on some range of motion exercises so I would be ready to put my arms up over my head during radiation - I have to say that task has gotten easier.

  • TB90
    TB90 Member Posts: 992
    edited April 2014

    Lonnie:  Radiation to the lymph node area does increase the chance of LE or of LE worsening.  I do not know by how much, but I do know that it is not a given SE.  Speak with your dr about your fears. 

    I had tattoos and I cannot even find them now that I am so damn red.  We have no option here.  But honestly, mine are as tiny as a pen point dot.  Like a very tiny black head pimple.  Freckles are much more noticeable.  But before you get them, if it is an option for you, ask to see what their tattoos look like.  I have heard different stories.  My RO had them on his arm to show me :)

    My skin held up until after the radiation ended.  Skin definitely can continue to worsen.  I am so sore right now.  Advil does relieve it, but I try to take only one a day or so.  And of course, now I decide to go back to work.  I have not had any fatigue though.  This is the worst possible sunburn ever that just keeps on getting worse!  Should stop soon and I cannot wait.    

    I agree with the description of hot spots above as my under arm is the worst. 

  • travlmom
    travlmom Member Posts: 90
    edited April 2014

    I am "glad" to read that several of you experience the same tired leg muscles that I have been getting since finishing chemo.  Pam your description is exactly how I move from a seated position. Like a 90 year old woman until I walk for about 5 minutes and then the joints get lubricated enough that I feel ok.  I definitely cannot do a long distance walk but I am getting more miles in each week.  

    I decided to go with the standard protocol for radiation. I had my CT scan and tatoos last week.  Tomorrow I have my dry run followed by Herceptin and start the next day.  I am a bit anxious today as I do not feel prepared for this like I "felt" for chemo.  My facility does offer massages so I will probably do those once a week through this part of the process. The only thing they told me to put on was Aquaphor - I hate that stuff so I will see how that goes.  I need to go buy a larger bottle than what I have at home.

    I cannot wait to get this year over with and start feeling more normal again.  Radiate me! 

  • Anneb1149
    Anneb1149 Member Posts: 960
    edited April 2014

    Hi, Lonnie

    I have not started radiation yet- it's been over 4 weeks since my CT and markings. But I do have LE. It stared after the biopsies. After chemo and surgery, I was sent to a therapist who massaged the arm, wrapped me from mid-finger to shoulder, then ordered compression garments. You might want to check with your Onc to see if that might help. I have been told tha LE worsens with rads. BTW, there is a thread on here about LE. I have gotten some very helpful info there- most important is that LE is different for everyone, and what works for one may not work for someone else. Good luck

    Anne

  • lonnie713
    lonnie713 Member Posts: 236
    edited April 2014

    Thanks ladies. I called my RO and she got me an appointment with the lymphedema therapy center for tomorrow.  This is great because I start rads on the 16th. I want to have this under some sort of control while undergoing rads.

  • flagirl
    flagirl Member Posts: 144
    edited April 2014

    Thanks ladies for all your responses to my posting.  I am no going to get tats just gonna live with it.  They said they will put the stickers on for the weekend to help preserve them. I guess I will wash less, but it seems he aquafore is the culprit.  Had dr visit today he said all looks good.  Glad to hear said I probably won't have a rough time with skin and rashes.  That would be nice.  26 more to go. Keep it moisturized, using cornstarch underarm and under breast for friction. I apply it after I get home from tx and after unburn and aquafore is applied.

  • Dogsneverlie
    Dogsneverlie Member Posts: 278
    edited April 2014

    Hi Lidzy!  That is interesting about no tattoos!  I think there are many out here who have had them and who have not.  They are barely noticeable - look like a teeny freckle!  Are you OK or are you a bit nervous for your first treatment?  Sunday night, I was a little anxious and did not get much sleep.  Honestly, it was not bad - the first zap I get is a little longer and I have a hard time holding my breath that long - I THINK it is longer than 30 seconds!  But if I drop air, the treatment stops and they tell me to breathe in again.  The second zap is much shorter, like 15 seconds.  I have also read some have little to no reaction (really hoping that is ME!!!!!).

    I am glad to be on the longer program......radiation really freaks me out and I know it is low dose, etc but I just don't like knowing that I have to put that into my body.  It's interesting you were being pushed a little for that shorter time, I wonder why they would care that you don't want the shorter time.........

    Your description of the table had me laughing!!!!!!!

  • Dogsneverlie
    Dogsneverlie Member Posts: 278
    edited April 2014

    Good afternoon everyone!

    Well, treatment #2 behind me, only 28 more to go!  The nurse went to put my bracelet ID on my right wrist and I stopped her and said I needed it on my left wrist so I could use my right hand to cut it off.  She said - - Oh, just stop by and I can cut it off for you before you leave.....I said NO NO NO.  After treatment #30, all of my "bracelets" are going in a BONFIRE!  It will be smelly due to the plastic but hey, THEY ARE GOING TO BURN! 

    Happy

    So, last week was so stinking emotional for me but by Thursday on the drive home from work, I just let it all out and sobbed and allowed some self pity in and I have to say, I have felt so much better since Friday!  A girl's gotta cry, right?  Any way, Sunday night I was a little anxious for my first treatment on Monday but all is well, even though I am only going into treatment #3 tomorrow.

    My big brother from Nashville arrives on Friday and will be with us for 10 days so I am looking forward to that!  Taking next Wed/Thurs off but need to work Mon/Tues and Fri; lots going on at work.

    I asked about Aquafor lotion, etc and was told to hold off until I had side effects??????  I am one of those preventative people, what do you all think?

  • keepthefaith
    keepthefaith Member Posts: 2,156
    edited April 2014

    Thanks BigD, for the info on hot spots.

    I had my first Rad TX today! 32 to go...

    My RO said to use Miaderm once/day for now and then increase in a wk or so to two and then three.  They asked me if I wanted tattoos, but I opted for the stickers to see how they hold up, first. She drew a huge line all around my breast and almost to my collar bone...thanks! My RO will ck me once/wk to see how I am doing.

    Found some shampoo with Biotin, organic,  paraben-free today. I am hoping it will help make my stubbles become hair!

    dogsneverlie, nice that your brother is coming in! Don't feel bad about the pity party melt-down; we all have them!

    TB, I hope you feel better soon!

    hang in there, ladies~we've  got this!

     

     


     

  • flagirl
    flagirl Member Posts: 144
    edited April 2014

    Looks like everyone is holding on and getting through without too much pain so far.  Tomorrow is 9 of 33 tx, awake because I had some deep pain un the muscle on the outer breast edge/ underarm. Took a Tylenol waiting for it to kick in. Can't wait for Fri to be over to get that two day break.  Skin still looking good, some splotchiness but still moist.  Using aquafore only and unburn when I first get home before I apply the aquafore.  Hang in there ladies - we can do this!

  • faerywings
    faerywings Member Posts: 173
    edited April 2014

    Hi everyone, sending cool, aloe-rich soothing thoughts to all of you!

    I have my sim today. They said they run through the *whatever you call it* and then make sure that everything is lined up correctly. If you have my kind of luck where it takes a gazillion tries to get anything done (house, car, health, doesn't matter- it always takes the gazillion tries LOL),  how long does this appt usually take?

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