Starting Chemo in March 2014

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  • lgoldie
    lgoldie Member Posts: 120
    edited March 2014

    felt a bit nauseated this am, went to chemo. labs better   got more nauseated, by the time I went home,,,yucko  . But it started before chemo this am. Something I ate, virus.   Ugh   I hate nausea and it is the first time since I started chemo that I had it.   Reminds me of pregnancy.   Ugh Ugh   Took a compazine

  • Xrayalli
    Xrayalli Member Posts: 237
    edited March 2014

    JMG - vent away and never say sorry, I second that nomination, you need a break and maybe a week off from chemo, like Nina said. 

    Oddducklady-give your husband a great bug hug from all of us, he is going through hell with us, besides us, and together we will figure out the best way to deal with things. I am a mammographer, I've done exams on men, I know how awkward it can be but breast cancer can still kill a man like it can kill a woman, period. We do what we have to to beat it. I like doing a man, I don't waste a gown on them!

  • MedicMom2
    MedicMom2 Member Posts: 26
    edited March 2014

     Welcome oddducklady - a mans perspective going thru this a well as a wife's care taking thoughts would be aesone to hear. My husband is adjusting to when to back off and when to jump in and rescue he rest if the family.

    Jmg - we're all going to have bad days (weeks) and that's why we're all here.  Know I am keeping you close in prayers. 

    As for chemo yesterday, it was the MOST BIRIN THING I DID SONCE MY 12th acls refresher. And the medical peeps know how bad the first 10 are. I packed everything suggested in my chemo bag but have discovered maybe that's meant to stay home as a resource bag and I should just bring the kindle, phone, blankie which I didn't need but everyone was jealous of) and a charger. In for 850, labs (elevated livers now all norm!!!!), iv of saline, one of Benadryl, one of saline lunch, dessert, candy, and about 1230 chemo. Taxotere burned like potassium and my NEW chemo nurse (not he old one I was supposed to have) wanted to know why no port cause my veins "suck and are thin and too irritated" . Ha!!!!!! Vindication!!!!  She finally was one who listened to me like a another vein pro and not some whiny patient trying to tell he how to do her job. Of course the 1.5" x .5" bruise from mondays CT also led some support. She gets the veins for chemo. I get them 10 years later when their veins are worse. So she's taking to onco. He's going to say no again cause now it's only 3 more. But I feel like someone at least listened taut time. She asks Bout the additional scar, so I tapped on my prosthetic eye. She definitely understood my "it's no big deal. I've been thru more" comment. Creepy but totally effective and got my point across !!!!!

    On a happy note I LOVE my new short hair. Even the color he added for fun since it was only temporary. He suggested curly hair women try ethnic wig shops and I know of 2 so since feel great going there today

    I feel euphoric now that first chemo is over. Hoping this is normal. I'm going to crash when I stop decadron Sunday aren't i!!!???!!!

    Have an awesome dy lafies

  • Xrayalli
    Xrayalli Member Posts: 237
    edited March 2014

    Great post MedicMom! Love the narrative and what did I miss about the prosthetic eye!?

  • MedicMom2
    MedicMom2 Member Posts: 26
    edited March 2014

    Ali -aspergillus niger fungal infection after pushed a stretcher through a construction site and dirt scratched my eye. Took 4 months to figure out the problem until it grew enough in the anterior (very front) portion to spill out into visible range. Ended up w a PLL line and intraocular injections of amphotericin b. and 2 infected PLL lines and endocarditis, staph, and ARDS and a hospital stay starting w a 105.9 fever I don't fully remember. Although my husband, coworkers, and the older ED  staff continue to razz me for my bell ringing talents.  Quite the adventure as the high dose steroids I was put on the in the beginning overpowered the birth control pills I had just started.  So my eldest and I had quite the adventure before she was born. My choice came down to her or a 4th surgery that may save 5% of he peripheral vision. Thankful every day for my choice. So in a nutshell, what's a little port scar that a shirt or bra strap can cover when my plastic eye is sitting right out here in my face for everyone to see. It loos good, not perfect, but most just assume its a little lazy.    So poop to a few scars and a nip that takes a sharp right turn  now.  Health first, cosmetics second. 

  • Xrayalli
    Xrayalli Member Posts: 237
    edited March 2014

    Wow, that IS quite an adventure. I've never heard of anything like it, what a nasty thing to have to go through! Thank goodness your daughter was okay, too.

  • MedicMom2
    MedicMom2 Member Posts: 26
    edited March 2014

    despite the dire warnings to abort because of the horrid disabilities she would have due to the meds and fever, she's perfect and brilliant ... other than being a teen ;-)

  • heroldman
    heroldman Member Posts: 22
    edited March 2014

    jmg58. I think many here can relate to how horrible a bad tooth ache can be. I have had a dry socket and let me say that was as painful as any injury I have ever had. This is compared to broken bones, surgeries and so on. Feel free to vent here. That is one of the major functions of this place. Support, support, support. Please, please, if there is a next time for such severe pain, call and get some pain relief. I do understand that is easier said than done but nobody needs to suffer without some kind of pain relief. You have enough to face without extra pain.

    oddducklady. Since I am a man I do understand a little how your husband must feel about having breast cancer. I hope he will be able to view this as cancer that just happens to be in his breast. It is just not a good thing to have no matter where it is located. See if you can get him to post here as it helps to have others to talk to. You keep coming here too. You are in the same boat as I am along with the poster WifeWBC. Everyone has made us welcome. You may have noticed this but just in case, there is a thread in the "connect with others who have similar diagnosis", that is titled Male breast cancer. That section might also help both of you.

    Medicmom. When you had the eye infection you had a 105.9 fever! Wow you must have been sick. No wonder you do not remember much. It is good to hear things turned out so good for you and your daughter. Hopefully she will grow out of being a teen. :)

    My wife is now 11 days out from her first treatment. She has worked 6 full days. She was a possibly little bit more tired after 2 of those days. She has so many other physical problems it is hard to tell what is what sometimes. She loves to work, so working is good for her mind. The body just does not always go along with her desire. She has still had very little in the way of stomach problems and only a backache for a few days. Her next treatment will be next Thursday. I understand that things may be different for her next time.

    I send everyone many good thoughts and many, many cyber hugs.  

     

  • MedicMom2
    MedicMom2 Member Posts: 26
    edited March 2014

    doing the happy dance here in CT! Went for my neulesta injection yesterday (headache skull pain this morning) and my new chemo nurse inspected my arm and the sore reform chemo and the massive bruise from CT. She marched off and brought MO back and made him listen to me. Veins were the only hong stressing me out over this whole thing. I'm on w chemo and rads and no hair and feeling crappy b/c I know in the end I'll be playing w grandbabies. (In many years I mean) Port goes in next week.  And I slept an entire 9 hours last night.  :-)  So much my hubby and BFF who both work nights texted wondering why I wasn't awake. 

    Jmg how's your pic line redness?  Be consistent w them. Don't back down.  My 1st PLL (same thing but dumps out into subclavian) did the same and they pulled it for safety and good reason. 

    Hope you all have a relaxed weekend. Movies and hot cocoa on the couch all day are my kids' prescription for the 3 of us. Think I'm going to get roped into some puzzle making since I want my dinig room table back after 2 years. 

  • maryland
    maryland Member Posts: 1,298
    edited March 2014

    Great news medicmom, good for you , something went right. I don't have a port, have veins like garden hoses but only 1 tx so far, we'll see how next one goes. 

    My hubby was sick last week and now I've caught his cooties, been in bed since 6 last night. So far temp staying under 101 w/ Tylenol but I'm keeping' my eye on it. Dr called me in a new prescription to help with this insomnia, and I got the blues, so I go to pick it up and they tell me their computer system went down and I need to call  my Doc and have them resend it….at 5:10 on a Friday night…..yeah, right. Says the computer system only did this once before and it was only for a short time but my script wasn't there….. well of course…why wouldn't it be at that tiime…arrgghhh.. frustrating. So I took my Xanax at 8 and then again at 1am and slept till 6. Still have the cold or whatever it is but I'm feeling rested. 15 days post tx and I still have my hair, no thinning at all yet.

    jmg, how you doing? I sure hope you are not in agony anymore. I consider myself to usually be a trooper as well but not when it comes to my mouth! I got my first cap last year and I made them give me novacaine just to pop it on. I'm so sorry you've had to go through that .

    I hope all the rest of you are feeling ok and have a decent weekend… later..

  • maryland
    maryland Member Posts: 1,298
    edited March 2014

    Can any of you medical people tell me what ..." nonspecific
    enhancing foci" means in an MRI report?

  • maryland
    maryland Member Posts: 1,298
    edited March 2014

    ok, just got out of the shower and I'm shedding like a labrador... knew it was coming but I'm gonna miss my hair.

  • susiem
    susiem Member Posts: 14
    edited March 2014

    Greetings, Marchers! I've spent the last hour or so catching up with the posts I've missed and once again, you blow me away with your love, support, compassion, and pompoms (such a great mental image). I'm sort of embarrassed at how well things are going. Caught the plague cough that's been going around, which sent my WBC spiraling down at the end of last week. MO put me on supplemental Neupogen for a few days in preparation for DD AC #2 last Tuesday. I drove alone to the second treatment just to prove to myself that I can do this. However, it wasn't a good idea and I don't plan to try it again until I segue onto weekly Taxol. 

    The cycle so far seems to be day 1, I'm dizzy and ditzy from the Cytoxin -- others get headaches (sucking on an Altoids seems to help), I just get dizzy. Day 2, still giddy from the steroids. I take an Ativan to make sure I sleep on night 1. Then it's pretty much just a bit of fatigue and the evening aches from the Neulasta. Based on your suggestions I plan to start the Claritin earlier next time. Tylenol helps. A week later and the productive cough is still producing (and playing havoc with sleep), so my MO gave me a Z-pack, which seems to be working. 

    I woke up on day 14 after my first treatment wondering if I'd been precipitate in scheduling my buzz cut for that afternoon, but when I ran my fingers through my hair and came away with more than a few strands I knew the timing was perfect. For those of you with prickly scalps, try a satin pillowcase or a really old soft cotton one. Silk will snag and catch. 

    Wishing you all a good respite weekend. 

  • Xrayalli
    Xrayalli Member Posts: 237
    edited March 2014

    Genny5775-nonspecific enhancing foci, you have an area (foci) that is picking up a contrast agent (enhancement) that you must have had injected during your MRI. They won't know what it is unless they biopsy it. Hope that helps. 

  • maryland
    maryland Member Posts: 1,298
    edited March 2014

    Thanks Xrayalli, I figured you'd be able to tell me. I'm really in a bit of a dilemma over my MO recommendation to just have a lumpectomy. I have ILC and I'm not convinced that the right breast is negative. I found my BC myself when I notice dimpling in my left breast. But there is slight dimpling in the right as well. The CT and MRI were negative except for the term non-specific enhancing foci but I'm just not convinced. I go to the PA that works for the MO on Wednesday and I'll see if she can answer some of my questions. I think I'd like them to order an ultrasound since it showed the CA on the left side... I never had U/S on the right. I'm afraid the chemo will kill whatever they can see and I'll be right back here in a few years with BC on the right side. Does that make sense?

  • Jodi040812
    Jodi040812 Member Posts: 383
    edited March 2014

    genny- you make 100% sense!  I agree with you.  I think they should automatically do an ultrasound on the other breast. It might do some good to poll the ladies here to see who had that done.  You can then have more evidence on why you insist!  

    I had a CT, bone scan and ultrasound done.  Happy too because they found an internal lymph node on the ultrasound.  I had a BMX.  The bilateral was my choice not the MX part though.  I had three tumors so it was not an option.  However, I decided to take the other one.  Best of luck and stick to what your gut says!  At least then maybe you can get an ultrasound.  And I found mind too in October after being physically checked in March!  Not sure if it grew crazy fast or was missed.  Thinking missed:(. I had just had a baby so maybe they thought lumpy?  Stay strong and tell that doctor!!

  • MedicMom2
    MedicMom2 Member Posts: 26
    edited March 2014

    I'm learning to go with my gut and what I truly think, especially when it is creating stress and turmoil.  I would ask for the additional tests. POM for everyone if neg, more info for you and you treatment I it isn't.  Thinking of you. 

  • Jenwith4kids
    Jenwith4kids Member Posts: 635
    edited March 2014

    Hi everyone, I posted on this thread once before but haven't interacted yet.  I'm a week and a half past AC#1, with AC#2 coming up next Thursday.  I am sitting here with heartburn that I haven't had since pregnancy!  But that's the only lasting SE so far.  The first few days weren't bad - - but Saturday and Sunday were not good days.  Monday was almost normal, then Tuesday was a crash.  I slept most of Tuesday and quite a bit of Wednesday.  I think the roller coaster was all due to the steroids (love my nighttime ativan) and a lack of knowing.  I know things could have been worse and I will be lucky if my next treatment follows the same cycle, but at least now I feel a little more prepared.  Here's hoping!

    The one thing I have been doing is getting out to walk every day - I really had only one day where I really had to force it.  And on Thursday, I actually put on my running gear and pushed myself around the block.   It precipitated a major melt-down - I assume because it was hard and very reminiscent of just something normal that I used to do with relative ease before this nightmare started.  Anyway, I laced up again today and did it again.  I'm not sure I'll be able to keep it up throughout treatment, but I can try, right?!

    Looking forward to being part of the group.

    Jen

  • jmg58
    jmg58 Member Posts: 185
    edited March 2014

    Thanks for the good wishes, ladies.  I have been in the hospital for the last two 1/2 days....1/2 of root canal blew up...vomited all night; 

    face is swollen and pain is unbearable.  Antibiotics and pain meds in PICC for two days.  Now what?  Have to check with my doc wihen

    she gets back Monday if i get the tooth pulled and chemo is delayed.  I HATE to do that because I'm afraid cancer willl grab hold easier

    but I can't live with this pain/infection either.  I'm only hoping there won't be worse complications with extraction.

  • Xrayalli
    Xrayalli Member Posts: 237
    edited March 2014

    Genny5775-the MRI is very highly sensitive, the ultrasound is really when you know right where to look. But I agree to trust your gut!

    Thinking of you all as your struggle through your SEs and daily battles, we women are stronger than we feel sometimes. We'll look back on this someday with pride.

  • Jenwith4kids
    Jenwith4kids Member Posts: 635
    edited March 2014

    ARGH, I still have my period....it came the day after my first infusion, a week early.  It's way lighter now than it was but good golly....I can't believe I am still spotting after ten days.

  • jmg58
    jmg58 Member Posts: 185
    edited March 2014

    Have an appointment with an oral surgeon tomorrow.  Scared I'll get dry socket because my RBC are okay, but not that high....hope I'm doing the right thing by having it pulled.  Just got out of hospital after 3 days of antiobiotics and painkillers.  I don't want to go through that again.  I've been doing fine for three weeks but hospital managed to clog one of my two picc catheters.  Nice.  Just real nice.  Honestly, I came home and cried.  The first three weeks shouldn't have been this hard....all this weird crap happened to me that didn't need to happen.

    I agree with the extra testing and going with your gut, genny.  My test result that said that was a small fibradenoma....however, my mammogram showed nothing but I knew something was wrong and begged for an ultrasound....that's what found my tumor.  Do what gives you the most piece of mind so that you are convinced of the outcome/diagnosis!

  • Jenwith4kids
    Jenwith4kids Member Posts: 635
    edited March 2014

    genny5775, I agree. .. get some further testing.  I think it's necessary,  esp given the ILC dx....and it will certainly make you feel better about whatever decision you ultimately make. 

    We were diagnosed around the same time - I remember your story about seeing the tethering while drying your hair.  I noticed a dimple on my left breast about a year ago, showed it to my DH who said, "that has always been there"....so I ignored it.  Actually, I did mention it to my primary, who said nothing remarkable....then I skipped my mammo that year (had other things to do...).  Anyway, my cancer was found during routine mammo - and when I showed my BS the dimple she said, "yup, that's cancer"...(she wasn't so cavalier, I love her...), but that was my only symptom (and I ignored it).

  • WifeWBC
    WifeWBC Member Posts: 53
    edited March 2014

    Thought I'd post an update.  This way I can also check back and see how the future sessions progress.  Seems round #2 has hit my wife a little harder than round #1 which is a surprise, given some other posters experiences.  Wife was fine throughout her treatment which finished around 3 PM Friday.  By 6 PM she was in bed and feeling nausea and pretty much incapacitated.  Has not changed much in the last almost 72 hours. A few periods of feeling so so, but not great, and the rest a feeling described as either a hangover, or morning sickness.  The nausea meds (Zofran and Maxeran) providing some temporary relief, but nothing lasting, or powerful enough, as far as I can tell.  Wife simply lying in bed most of the day feeling crap.  Not much I can do.

    She gave herself the Neulasta shot Saturday evening, so now some shoulder, back and neck pain has set in.  She tells me the pain is more bearable than the nausea.

    Not sure what other meds people have tried for Nausea.  Wife also tried Gravol, but no real success there.  Feel like calling her OM to see what else might help.  OM suggested before chemo started that people with motion sickness tend to react worse to treatments, which makes some sense because my wife doesn't travel well in a boat or plane, and gets sick if she reads a book in the car (me driving of course :D )

    Hoping she recovers after week one as with round #1.  It's fingers crossed.  Good luck everyone.

  • jmg58
    jmg58 Member Posts: 185
    edited March 2014

    WifeWBC....I'm sorry to hear that her treatment was so much harder on her this time.  I haven't had the nausea, so I'm not sure what to suggest....I have a prescription for Zofran and Compazine in case I need it.  I hope she feels better soon!  I am sending up good thoughts for her.  It wouldn't hurt to call MO in any event; I would!

    I go to oral surgeon in two hours.  Finally got final ok from MO.  Nervous as can be because it's in the afternoon.  They didn't want me to fast until 2:00 p.m. so now they can't knock me out.  This has me nervous since the shot from the endodontist to numb me was enough of pain to actually make me cry and make me lift both legs in the air.  I really want to be knocked out.  Maybe I will be well enough for them to knock me out tomorrow....lol.  I hope all goes well; I truly am more nervous than I was before my BC operation.

    Welcome, Jenwith4kids....and I hope everyone else is having a good day.  First warm day here today!  (But can you believe maybe snow again Thurs?)

  • Lisaj514
    Lisaj514 Member Posts: 719
    edited March 2014

    wifeWBC- also if she is taking a lot of nausea meds beware of constipation and be proactive in any way possible. It can be a bear and make SE worse especially if she is not eating well. Stool softeners, ducolax, miralax, just make sure she is taking something, ask your mo or pcp if not sure what to take. Extra fiber just isn't enough, or wasn't for me. One woman on another forum actually had to be hospitalized and have surgery due to hemorrhoids caused from constipation. Wish her well during her treatments. I'm more active on the dec 2013 and jan2014 chemo forums. There is invaluable info on these forums. Good luck

  • Jenwith4kids
    Jenwith4kids Member Posts: 635
    edited March 2014

    Anybody else with almost constant sinus headache?  fortunately, the chemo nurse said I can take advil sinus which is my "go to" drug for this, but I'm afraid as time goes on blood levels change I might not be able to stay on it.  Which leads to another question... I know that WBCs are going to always be low, but are all other counts expected to be consistent throughout treatment or will they get worse?  Is that where the fatigue comes from?

    It's almost 50 degrees here, I'm off for my first walk of the day (I say that because I accidentally scheduled two friends for today!  Thank goodness it's sunny!)

    Jen

  • jmg58
    jmg58 Member Posts: 185
    edited March 2014

    Jenw4kids....my sinuses are somewhat sore and bloody nose; but not a lot of headaches.  I think that your red blood cell counts go down slightly after the white. At least mine did.  Due again for chemo Thurs. and my RBC are just starting to go up a bit as of yesterday.  Someone else probably knows more, but that's been my experience after 1 infusion.

  • Sinsin
    Sinsin Member Posts: 358
    edited March 2014

    I am currently getting my 2nd infusion of Epirubicin and Cytoxan. My WBC were .9 last week and are now at 13.! So the Neulasta shot worked and surprisingly, my RBC and hem went up too. Not sure why but we'll take it!

  • MedicMom2
    MedicMom2 Member Posts: 26
    edited March 2014

    I was feeling great (considering) w some mild GI symptoms and then bone pain started last night. Now I feel like I got run over by a truck. Maybe 2. Cold and chills but no fever. Exhausted. Nausea. Cramps. Is this the crash I keep hearing about?  TC was Thursday. 

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