February 2014 Starting Chemo Club

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  • gatorgal89
    gatorgal89 Member Posts: 56
    edited March 2014

    Has anyone gotten to the "where did everyone go" phase of her journey? I feel like people are bored with asking how I am and hearing the real responses and have gone away. I know I've isolated myself because of the low white count, but people can still call, right? I know this is probably self-imposed, too much time on my hands thinking, but I feel like people think it's my problem and are just living their lives as normal. People have actually said to me "call if you need anything." I feel like that is the ultimate blow-off. Anyone?

  • h0pe
    h0pe Member Posts: 125
    edited March 2014

    Gatorgal - I am at a weird place too. Middle of chemo, not working right now. Too much time on my hands. I find it hard sometimes to find something to do, other than obsess about this BC thing. Friends have been great, very supportive. You are right, though - it gets lonely. I don't want to keep texting or talking to them about my treatments because I don't want to "dwell" in it; however, I do still get anxiety. Some days are better than others. I don't know if we're feeling the exact same thing, but I understand. I get the "call me if you need anything" A LOT. I think they are sincere in trying to help, but unless you've been through this, you really cannot comprehend the plethora of mixed emotions one goes through on this journey. It is overwhelming.

    Finally starting to physically feel a little better. Still have the sore throat - I think it is a mouth sore starting to form or has formed in my throat as I do not feel any bacteria/viral symptoms. Of course, as I start to feel better, I have #4 dd on Friday. Thankful it's the last dd, but then moving on to 12 taxol treatments seems like forever. Also, nervous about how my body will react to #4. Good day, everyone! 

  • gatorgal89
    gatorgal89 Member Posts: 56
    edited March 2014

    h0pe-good luck with your last dd. I really believe that knowing it was my last dd helped me feel better faster this time. I start my 12 wks of Taxol Monday.Oddly, I begin to overanalyze when I start to feel better rather than when I am feeling at my worst. You are right...must try to focus on being productive and also not be so hard on others, I suppose.

  • seaniebopp
    seaniebopp Member Posts: 41
    edited March 2014

    @Gatorgal89 I feel the same way.  I am a very private person so I considered myself as only having 2 REAL FRIENDS.  Both have abandoned me.  One only calls for an update and the other doesnt call at all.  This journey has helped me realize that all I really have in this world unconditionally are God and my children.  Very humbling experience indeed.  Still I must say that I have gotten more support from the brave women on this site than I have gotten from my so called friends.  I thank everyone here for any kind words, suggestions, and for just allowing me to vent when I needed to.  Thank you all!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited March 2014

    seaniebopp & Gatorgal89 This happens. Many don't get it or know what to say to you one the phone. In general, I don't care what it is people seem to focus on their own day to day. I would recommend getting partnered up with a mentor from Imerman's Angels. They do a good job matching you based on the criteria you want.

  • seaniebopp
    seaniebopp Member Posts: 41
    edited March 2014

    Thanks @Lago, I have been looking for a support partner and will check into this ASAP!

  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited March 2014

    this is why we have each other!!! Since I am starting chemo first I'm still in the "new" phase and people are just finding out. But I've already lost a long time friend. I told her about 2 weeks ago and she avoids me at all costs. It's very strange. 

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited March 2014

    Imerman's Angels will also match care givers too. It might take a little time to find the right match so be sure to sign up sooner rather than later.

    Jules it happens more often then you realize.
    2 women in my building (I live in a high rise) used to move to the other side of the elevator when I was going through treatment and wore a scarf... because you know breast cancer is contagious.

  • Njmom3
    Njmom3 Member Posts: 143
    edited March 2014

    Hi guys!  Finally had #3 AC, it should have been my last but those darn red blood cells not playing kept me held up.  I will say having the blood transfusion made a huge difference to how I feel. I was so worth it.  I hope after this round I don't tank again!  I want to get to that last red devil and say a ver happy good riddance!  Hoping 12 weeks of taxol is easier.  Hope- good luck on #4 I'm jealous lol!

    As for friends, yes in the beginning cards, and flowers and texts non stop.  Now the occasional I don't want to disturb you text.  Oh ok, I'm so busy with watching the price is right I can't be disturbed, how tragic that disturbance would be.  Please disturb away I want to say...  My very bf is now turned to very estranged friend.  She will rarely call or text only to tell me the tragedy in her life, juggling a husband and long distance love (sickening) with 2 kids and then at the end throw in oh how are you.  Like I have the sniffles.  It's all strange I just don't think people know how to act. I have now formed very close friendships, 2 women I know in my town have had mastectomy one before me and one after, and thru Facebook I met a very caring person who is always here for me, when she is not in Fl lol Karen.  But I have also formed what I consider real friendships with all you ladies, we truly are the only ones that can understand each other, try as others might, unless they have been down this road they don't have a clue!  Thank you for being here for each other through all of the good and bad! 

  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited March 2014

    nj- #3 for me is thurs. Sorry for the set back but glad the transfusion made you feel better. 

    Now that we are on this topic I have to vent. One of my other "good" friends called to ask how I was just before my second AC and I was telling her how nervous I was because of how hard the last time was. Her response, don't worry your body will eventually get used to it, followed by... I know it must be hard but it's better than the alternative right?

    I get it that people may not know what to say. But how on earth would anyone think that your body gets used to poison?!?!?!?! And of course it's better than death, but that doesn't make me happy to be going through it!!!! Makes me wonder why she called

    (Deep breath.....) I feel better!!! Thanks ladies

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited March 2014

    You guys will be amazed at the friendships you make here. I still keep in touch with a few from our chemo thread on facebook. One is all the way in Australia! Another in Canada. One in Missouri. We all want to meet one day although I have met the gal in Missouri when we were doing treatment. I have also met others from this forum. Some local some not. Some of the local ones I am still friends with. They get it. Seriously you have talked about puking, shitting, not shitting, lack of mojo, dryness... need I go on! You have shared some of these personal things and we get it because we've been there.

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited March 2014


    Hi Ladies :)

    Gearing up for this Thursday, will be my 3rd TAC....that will mark the half way point. I really don't want to go, does this get any easier?? Dh and I were talking and we realized that my 4th tx is going to fall on our 10th anniversary. Really??

    The friend thing is hard, I have one friend that swore up and down she was going to be there for me and I have not heard from her since that time. I have another friend that hasn't been that flakey, but I know that when we talk and I give her any updates it is hard for her hear about it. I also have a family member that has pulled back partly due to her own life of drama and partly because she can't handle me being sick.

    I also at times feel a certain amount of pressure to "be strong" and "fight like a warrior", or the other one "stay positive". It's like people want you to be like this more for themselves than for yourself. IT makes them feel better because it is too hard to see the other side. This board is a beautiful thing because ALL sides are here and they are accepted and understood.

     

  • lgoldie
    lgoldie Member Posts: 120
    edited March 2014

    that has happened to me both times.  I think its the Claritin making your sinuses run down your throat

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited March 2014

    tangandchris you need to feel how you need to feel. This "fight like a warrior" is just a campaign slogan for the pink walks. There are days when you just want to be tired, annoyed and have a hissy fit... It's normal and don't feel like you are failing at being a cancer survivor. I was just talking to a woman today  (volunteer work) that said chemo really wiped her out some days. I asked what chemo she was on. She didn't remember. I asked her if it was red. She said yes. I told her that's the red devil. It's the really strong stuff and it wipes most people out. But she was done with treatment and looked good. You'll get there too.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited March 2014

    I would never choose to have had cancer happen to me, but, since I can't change that, I have decided I do NOT want to forget the lessons it has taught me.  One of those lessons is discovering my REAL support system - and to grow it in the areas where it was lacking.  Cancer weeds out the superficial people from your life.  The ones you can really count on will be left standing.  It hurts to learn that, but after grieving that loss, you pick yourself up by your bootstraps and love those who ARE there for you all the more.  I have no time for superficial people in my life.  I forgave those who pushed me to the side because it was too painful for them to face the reality of our own mortality...but I don't waste time on them any more either. 

    Hugs to all of you!

  • Brwneyedgirl
    Brwneyedgirl Member Posts: 113
    edited March 2014

    I have been lucky so far. Family and friends have been great. One friend wants to help so bad it is almost overwhelming for me.  A little suffocating. I know it is because she cares.  I however most of the time just need my  space.  But that is no different than before BC.  I initially only told family and a few select friends.  I did not want to handle other peoples emotions as well as my own.  Now that I am bald, and rocking the bald head, it is obvious that something is going on.  Some days I just want to curl up in a ball and lay there.  Today is a good day!  Hugs to you all <3

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited March 2014

    Ladies,

    Here a flip-side to the social aspect of this.  What are you doing to be open and inviting people in?  

    Personally, I use FaceBook to keep 'out there' with everyone and make it quite comfortable for people to comment and support me.  Most of my posts reflect my humor and positive attitude....sometimes I talk about how the whole thing just sucks and I feel like shit.   It keeps the door open and people reach out to me with love, laughs or virtual hugs.  Often, it will generate a phone call or personal message  often with a sincere message of how my fight encourages them with their own issues.  

    Here is yesterday's posted picture, having fun at the mall playing Where's Baldo?:

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  • Brwneyedgirl
    Brwneyedgirl Member Posts: 113
    edited March 2014

    jbokland - great picture!  love it!


  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited March 2014

    jbokland that is a riot! You are rocking the bald. I had such a terribly shaped head. No rocking the bald for me.

  • Sicilian
    Sicilian Member Posts: 49
    edited March 2014

    imageThis is me and my surgeon just before I went in for my third lumpectomy (I am in the white). She wears one of these hats in different colors to every surgery, but she told me that patients get hats with cats or flowers, only she gets the Bitch hat. When she told me I had to go under the knife for the third time in 8 weeks, I told her I was only going to do it if we wore matching hats. Sure enough....

    As for friends, I've found that most have been pretty great, although one sent me a text message back in November from work that she hoped all was going well and would call me when she got home that night. I didn't hear from her again until last week! We've been friends for over 30 years. Others have touched me beyond belief with their kindness. My MIL didn't even come to visit me once. A friend of my daughter's does the Avon Walk, and she sells items to help raise funds. She sent me a bag of scarves and bracelets and car magnets, etc, and refused to take a dime from me. And this from a girl who is saving up for her October wedding. People have sent me meals and restaurant gift certificates so I don't have to worry about cooking.

    Sometimes people don't know what to say, so they don't say anything.

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited March 2014


    Hey everyone :)

    I've had some great things with people too, I don't mean to come off like downer. It's ironic because the people who have touched me the deepest are those that I wouldn't have considered to be that great of a friend. You definately find out who is there thru thick and thin...but I agree some people just don't know what to say or how to act.

     

  • Sicilian
    Sicilian Member Posts: 49
    edited March 2014

    Tang, you weren't a downer at all. You're right, though. Kindness has come at me from the oddest directions, and those I thought I could count on haven't been around. My mother always said that everyone is your friend when you're having a party. It's when you really NEED a friend that you find out who the real ones are.

    One thing that broke my heart was my brother. We had a falling out a few years ago and I wasn't even sure if he knew that I had been diagnosed. One day last month he came to the house to take my mother to lunch (she lives with us, but I begged her not to tell him), so I answered the door without my headscarf, just to see his reaction, gave him what me daughter calls "The Full Anakin" for you Star Wars fans. In the back of my mind, I had this crazy idea that we would fall sobbing into one another's arms and make up immediately, but nothing of the sort happened. We were as cold and civil to one another as we have been since the argument  when we've been forced to see one another. I haven't heard from him since.

    Edited to Add: jbokland, I absolutely FLOVE that picture.

  • princessrn
    princessrn Member Posts: 370
    edited March 2014

    I've been lucky, lots and lots of help from the girls at work. I am the third woman in my department that is had breast cancer in three years. I have people making dinner offering rides picking up my kids anything they can to help I've been very blessed.

    Sicilian.., I'm sorry about your brother. I've been lucky to have my sister be so helpful and come with me each time to chemo she knows how afraid I am. But there are  only the two of us and so we're super close. And for that I'm really grateful. My husband still lives in Boston for work. I wish you were here every day but he's not so I really do a lot of it all alone with my three kids.

    Lumpectomy times three??

    Jbokland.... That's an excellent picture!

    Tangandchris..... I got married in In August 2013. We haven't even had our first anniversary and are living apart. And now I have breast cancer! Excellent!  I got to have chemo for the fourth week on my birthday, pretty crappy way to welcome 48!  Lol

    I do the best I can to laugh and laugh some more. Millions have made it through, I know I will too. I just don't always have to like it!!!

  • princessrn
    princessrn Member Posts: 370
    edited March 2014

    gahhh... For julesny.... I call it draino!!

  • gatorgal89
    gatorgal89 Member Posts: 56
    edited March 2014

    Hi everyone! I'm really glad I posted because reading all the responses helped me understand that I'm not the only one feeling this way.

    The benefit of isolation is not getting sick and staying on track with my treatments, which was my goal from the beginning because my DD is graduating college in May, and I want to be well enough to go. The drawback is over-analyzing EVERYTHING! I do much better on the second week after treatment when I feel normal. I've come to realize that the only thing that matters is that I get better. I can focus on friends and relationships when the dust settles!

    I am thankful for each of you and your stories and advice!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited March 2014

    princessrn my goal was to finish chemo before I turned 50... and I did stay on schedule and finished 2 weeks before my birthday. Too bad I felt like crap. I was very bloated (chemo made me retain so much water I looked pregnant. Many of my shoes woudln't fit). I was very stiff and my nail lifting problems were getting worse. The following year I went back to the same restaurant so I could really enjoy the meal. 

  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited March 2014

    jbokland- that is the best picture!!!!! I love your dress too!! I've actually considered setting up a closed FB page to keep my friends and fam updated. But it seems a little weird in a way. I haven't shared on my own FB page yet, I was almost hoping someone would "slip" and mention it for me. 

    There are people who were acquaintances before BS that are now so helpful and thoughtful. It is very nice! The people I work with have been pretty amazing too, the "news" is still spreading because I work in 3 departments but so far it has been fine! 

    Princess- draino...love it, I'm gonna start using that! 

    Gatorgal- I'm an over analyzer too!!!!!!

    My 40th falls on the worst of my post chemo days. My friends are trying to plan a night out, I'd much rather celebrate my next birthday, seems more significant! 

    AC #3 for me tomorrow, goin it alone this time. My daughter is sick and won't be able to go to school. Don't mind it really, all the hubs does is squirm in his uncomfortable chair while I kick back in mine, :)

  • princessrn
    princessrn Member Posts: 370
    edited March 2014

    lago. ... Good idea. Food tastes crappy now anyway!!  I love the Parrish in Boston. And have great memories. So I won't go there until I'm done and can taste things again. 

    JulesNY.. I go today too but only Herceptin, chemo lite as I call it. It doesn't seem to bother me. 

  • gatorgal89
    gatorgal89 Member Posts: 56
    edited March 2014

    Hi all! Just wanted to drop in and thank lago for the post about Imerman's Angels. Great resource and I already got matched with a mentor!

    I am nervous about first Taxol on Monday. Would love to hear from those of you who have started that. I was nervous when I started AC also because I'm afraid of allergic reactions...like I will have a problem and no one will notice b/c the nurses in my center are always so busy! Yikes...that sounds really dumb when I go back and re-read. Hope everyone is doing okay today.

  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited March 2014

    gatorgal-idont have any input on taxol, I don't start till april, will you beon weekly taxol? Thereis a weekly taxol group too. 

    Whati do want to say is nothing is dumb! Every feeling, or question comes from a very vulnerable place, we are here foryou! Glad tohear you found a mentor match too.

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