April 2014 Surgery Sisters
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I'm another one of those who was posted on another April thread...so here goes it again!
I am scheduled for a BMX with immediate reconstruction with tissue expanders on April 8th. I was surprised to find out that I had DCIS 3.5cm near the chest wall on my right breast. I have dense breast tissue and decided the BMX was the best way for me to go. I just don't want to go the lumpectomy route, then find out I don't have clean margins, and/or worse that there is invasive cancer that was not visualized on the MRI. I just want to get it over with and not take any chances. I also wanted to avoid radiation and Tamoxifen. Clearly there are no Guarantees in life, and whatever comes I will deal with it. My surgeon is hopeful to get clean margins with being so close to the chest wall.
I am a matter of fact person, so have just dealt with this by kind of sticking it in the back of my head, but as it gets closer, I must say I am dreading the surgery. It will be nice to have it over with. If I could only magically fast forward to one week post op!
This site is an incredible source of information and I look forward to getting to know my fellow cancer warriors!
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Miss Maples,
Too funny about the Metamucil stockpile! Let me know which flavour is best...I stuck with boring orange as I have never used it before, but was eyeing up the pink lemonade. I have never spent so much time in the stomach relief aisle as I have been fortunate to have a pretty healthy digestive system so far, but I had to laugh at myself for it...I was reading labels so closely! Even the 90-something set had shuffled out of there before I was done!
My husband was excited for me when he saw my Metamucil, saying nothing feels quite like great s@x or a good s$&t! He is an odd (but wonderful) duck.
Kitty will need some boot camp study...she is the affectionate type. She may try and groom or cuddle them to point of exhaustion though.
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Hi Gracielou and welcome to the group!
It sounds like you have made a very thoughtful decision about your surgery. That is bound to bode well for being able to move on once you are recuperated. The whole margin dilemma can be a very sticky one can't it? I faced that very problem after my lumpectomy when it was discovered the extent of my DCIS was drastically underestimated.
I am finding the wait a bit torturous now as well, yet also want the day to never arrive .... Silly really
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DiveCat, your hubby is clearly a hoot and that sense of humour can only be an advantage during this process
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So now I was reading on the March thread about something called a White Cow I think it was ..... Apparently a shot of prune juice with milk of magnesia? Her surgeon guaranteed it lol! Honestly, I need to come up with more productive uses for my nervous energy......
Oh, kitty can just run interference for you then, problem solved
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I am cracking up at all the Metamucil talk. It looks like I will be trading in White Russians for white cows as my cocktail of choice. I am more terrified of being constipated than I am of the pain.
I am trying to decide whether to go with nipple sparing or not. My nipple on the cancer side is inverted and I am hoping the PS can fix that and save the nipples.
Today was my first day back to work since my last chemo, ( about 10 days). It was a welcome distraction. It is going to be hard to be away for 4 weeks.
What type of recovery time are your BS/PS saying?
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Asb...is your inverted nipple due to the cancer, or pre-existing? I have an inverted nipple...since as far back as I can remember, likely due to a shortened duct. PS said there was no issue (I wonder if it might even end up matching my other one better in the end once it is released)...of course no guarantees, and nipple-sparing can often lead to flatter nipples anyway (but then I will just have 2 flat ones, instead of one...more symmetry for first time ever, ha!)
Recovery...keep in mind I am not having my nodes removed or anything so that may vary things..but my PS says 3-4 weeks until I might feel up to some work (likely part time or from home though) and 6 weeks until I am back to no restrictions from him (like in respect to lifting, running, heavy cardio, etc) But, I am no fool and I know that does not mean I won't have restrictions due to how I feel and have actually recovered. Back to my own routine includes a lot of physical activity and hauling around scuba tanks so....it will be a while longer for me to be "recovered". My plan for going back to work though is 4 weeks, but I have allowed for 6 just in case...do not want to push it especially as there will be fatigue and such still maybe. I have seen a lot of actual (rather than PS-stated) different recovery periods depending on the individual!
My BS will just say "well, if you were just doing the MX, you would be back to it in a week"...so not too helpful
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divecat, inverted nipple is not due to the cancer. That is good to hear. Maybe there is hope for my nipples after all.
That is about what my BS is saying also. I am hoping to get back after 4 weeks and at least be able to finish the year with my students. I travel with students during the summer and have a trip planned in late June. I am still planning to go, I may have to downsize on my packing but I really don't want to miss Prague, it has been on must see list for a while and I am not sure this opportunity will come around again. I am tired of giving up things to cancer. BS/MO have ok'd it at the moment. I am hoping there are no complications and all will go as planned.
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back to regular life after a week after an MX is nonsense, sorry
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White russians for white cows - LOL!!! I swear by prunes - I ate a lot of them rather than taking what was prescribed and did well after my surgeries.
I am hoping to have my nipple spared as well. Thursday I see the PS and will have a better sense of what this all involves. From what I have read elsewhere, the TUG can take 8 weeks to recover from and one year to get full strength in your leg back because it involves the removal of muscle. I've used up all my vacation time for my lumpectomies, so I'm thinking of the upcoming recovery period as my vacation this year. Not my ideal by any means, but I will enjoy having time to read and watch movies. I don't often give myself the gift of just being slow and resting. Now I have to:)
I think it is good you are prepared to give yourself more time if you need it divecat. Maybe we all will need time just to be with the grief of losing our breasts?
Asb - I hope you make it to Prague. It is an amazing city! I totally get feeling like you have given up enough for bc and you shouldn't have give up this opportunity too! I'm glad to hear you are past chemo, doing well, and enjoy being back at work.
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LOL maybe to make the whole experience a bit more palatable, we should alternate white cows with White Russians
Like Rubiayat I have my final meeting with the PS on Thursday so I can ask about expected recovery times again. I seem to recall my nurse telling me 2-3 weeks to feeling more myself again but I think lifting and push /pulling restrictions would be more like 6-8? I do appreciate it must be hard for them to estimate as recuperation is probably just a bit different for everyone. And far better to err on the side of too much
Asb I really hope you can make that trip to Prague as well, it sounds glorious!
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April 8, bi lateral mastectomy with tissue expanders
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Hi there Pattij, welcome and thanks so much for getting in touch! You are coming up very soon like me, hope you are finding the wait a bit less stress-inducing than I am
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Hello April Surgery Sisters from a March Sister,
I'm popping in from the March group to wish all of you well. I brought my soap box with me and will now climb up on it to tell you about Exparel. Perhaps you all have heard of this drug. I hadn't but one of my other March sisters told me about it and I discussed it with my plastic surgeon who agreed he would use it. My mission now is to pass on the good word. Several of us in March were helped even though we had different procedures.
Exparel is injected into the incisions at the end of the surgery by the PS. It is a foam anesthetic that can last up to 3 days. I was doubtful that it would work, but it did. My fourth surgery in this breast cancer saga was four days ago and I still have no pain. There is very mild discomfort, completely taken away by Tylenol. This is a HUGE improvement in post op recovery for me because I am allergic (my heart stops) to all narcotics and opiates. Not being able to have anything by Tylenol has been a challenge, to say the least so you can imagine how this recovery is different than the others.
Here's the link. I printed it and took it to my pre-op appointment with my PS. Good luck and happy healing.
http://www.exparel.com/what-is-exparel.shtml
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Sandra, I am so glad you stopped by
. Congratulations on getting through your recent surgery so well, and I will take your Exparel doc to my final PS appt on Thursday. Fingers crossed.
Thank you for this tip, and for all the things I've learned from you and Team March. Many of us here have been lurking your thread for weeks now. What a helpful and inspiring group! I wish you all speedy and gentle recoveries.
Hugs!
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aviva,
To clarify, I don't think any of us expect to be back to it after a week nor was I (or I hope anyone, given I added "not too helpful"!) taking that tongue-in-cheek estimate seriously given it was preceded by my discussion of being advised by my PS I would need around 3-4 weeks off of work (desk job) and 6 weeks of recovery to return to some routine all things going well.
The context of my own comment was to relate (with a bit of tongue-in-cheek exaggeration...and a winkey face!) what my BS said in respect to an MX only (no recon) and so I was specifically advising the other poster not to go by what BS says...and which was why I focused on what PS who is doing recon (and monitoring it) says. But, obviously I did not explain that very well (I thought I had, but perhaps I deleted it).
My BS did emphasize to me that in the absence of recon, recovery would be shorter and I could be back to more basic routine things sooner but he never said "back to regular life" in a week, and he seems aware based on our conversations that "regular life" varies for everyone.
That being said I have known people who had MX only without recon who were back to THEIR routine within a week or two, because as I said, not everyone has the same "routine" or "regular life"! If your regular routine consists of luxurious foot rubs and being hand fed grapes, you might be back to it quite quickly
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I am scheduled for a BMX with immediate reconstruction with TEs on April 7.
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Hi--I'm up on April 30--PBMX--either direct to implant or expanders...haven't decided yet. I see the surgeon again in 2 weeks to make my final decision. Thanks for letting me join in!
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Welcome vfay49 and Zeeba, it is lovely to meet you both! Thanks for joining us, we are hoping there is power in numbers
I am sure you have both seen the March surgery thread also, where there is a wealth of great info and experience for getting prepared. Hope you are both doing well, and if any questions, just shout
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Hey Ladies, I have my surgery date for April 1st (I only wish this was all an April fools day joke). I'm starting to get nervous about it and wondering if anyone has any advice on items/things/clothing to bring to the hospital
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Hi everyone! Our group is growing:) tb2005, you will be leading the pack. I wish I had some advice for you - I haven't thought about all of that much yet. I believe MissMaples posted a link to another thread that talked about items to bring and the March surgery thread is a great resource too. Wishing you all the best next week:)
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This is what I am planning to bring:
Robe
Pajamas
Yoga pants
Mastectomy camisole
Zip up sweatshirt
iPhone & iPad
Chargers
Eye cover
Eyeglasses
Eye drops
Lip balm
Earplugs
Headphones
List of phone numbers
Toothpaste
Electric toothbrush
Face moisturizer
Notepad/pens
Hand sanitizer
Small pillow for car
Lozenges
I like to be prepared. But it's probably overkill.
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Hello! My surgery - BMX and tissue expanders - is coming up on April 1 so I thought I would chime in. I finished chemo on Feb. 14 and am finally starting to have some good energy. I'm ready to get the surgery over with but not looking forward to the recovery.
tb2005 - we are the same day. I don't plan on bringing much to the hospital. I'll wear a zip up hoodie and yoga pants so I'll wear that home. Toothbrush, hat (I look like a baby bird with my hair starting to grow in), glasses, maybe iphone.
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Chiclet92 welcome, I am so glad you found us! And thank you for reminding me to bring a hat (crazy bed head).
Tb2005, in case you didn't find it, here is that "surgery prep list" thread again, hope it helps. My packing list is nearly identical to Ninany's and would agree we will probably need a Sherpa to carry everything
https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/91/topic/...
Rubiayat, is this similar to the guided imagery CD you referred to? Vinmama linked to it on the March thread and I think it is the same? If so, it is really easy to download and free
if anyone is interested. It is specifically for surgery preparation and she has a lovely soothing voice and music. Apparently vinmama's team let her listen to it during her op!
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Hello,
I just found this forum tonight, and have a lot of reading to do. I am having a prophelactic double mastectomy on April 15th and doing the tissue expander thing. I am not terribly anxious, but a tad bit emotional. Mostly, I feel terribly uneducated about the whole thing and am just leaving it up to the professionals to make sound judgements on the process. Normally, I am a freak for details- but this time I just want to get through it.
The doc's office is saying 4 week medical leave. I teach elementary- does this seem about right? Terrible timing overall, but that can't be helped. I am a little worried it will take longer to recover and missing time in the classroom is awful. I just keep reminding myself that if I don't do it, then it is not a matter of if but when I have to deal with (more) cancer.
I hope everyone's path is a smooth one. HT
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I met with the PS today, I think I have decided not to try to save the nipples, he was not sure he could fix the inverted one. He is also part of a study for the new air expanders. He is not sure if it will be ready by the time of my surgery, but if it is I might try them. I need to do some more research. Hopefully I will have a date by the end of the week. I am ready to get this show on the road. The waiting is the worst. I did find out that the hospital provides mastectomy camisoles and drain belts, less stuff to have to buy.
happy teacher,
I also teach (middle school) and completely understand about the timing. It is also much more work to be out than to be at school, the thought of writing daily lesson plans, grading, communicating with the sub, parents etc. all while trying to heal is a bit overwhelming. I am also a bit of a control freak when it comes to my students. The one thing I have been forced to do through this whole thing is to put things in perspective. In the end the students will be fine and my health must come first. My PS said plan on a minimum of 4 weeks.
I have learned so much from these forums, I feel much more at ease than I did initially.
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Im usually a super planner and reader of things, but it took weeks after my diagnosis to really start digging in to what was going on. I could do about 15 minutes at a time then had to stop reading. Found these forums right away and it has been a god send from start to ...where I am now. Started typing finish, but that hasnt come yet. I was numb and emotional for months, then finally that settled down a bit. Still numb that its cancer, and hard to get to : I had cancer, not I have cancer.
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Yes, MissMaples, that is the guided imagery CD I was referring too. I have another one by her for stress and anxiety. It seems to be helpful and the nights that I listen to it before bed I seem to sleep better. That is a great idea to listen to during surgery. I think I will ask, why not??
Yesterday I ended up seeing
the PS instead of today and he is recommending a DIEP. It
appears that I don't have enough fat on my thighs (very hard for me to
believe) to make a full breast. Even with the DIEP my constructed breast
will be smaller than it is today. He suggested I could do fat grafting
to fill it out, but it will be multiple procedures over a year to get to
the size I want. Or I reduce the other side. A decision doesn't need
to be made today. I can have the DIEP, let everything settle, and see
how I feel. Feeling disappointed and sad that it will take so long to maybe be
back where I am today and that I will have a large scar on my
abdomen......I know it is minor in the whole scheme of things, but
anticipating a nice cosmetic outcome has really helped me handle the thought of losing my breast. I think I have been in a bit of denial of what is coming up and now it seems more real and I am feeling scared.HappyTeacher - I can see where it is a relief to hand over some of the decisions to the professionals. It can be overwhelming and stressful sorting through all the options and trying to decide what is best.
Asb - I am sorry to hear that you won't be able to save your nipples. In my breast cancer experience I have had to readjust my expectations time and time again and it has been especially difficult as I tend to lock onto an idea and don't let go easily! I have read elsewhere about amazing nipple tattoos by Vinnie in Baltimore. Why not get the best:)
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Aviva, I wonder too how you get to that point of thinking I had cancer. It must just take time. How can you feel that you don't have cancer when going through major surgeries?
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Happyteacher, welcome and thanks for joining us! Like you I am finding this entire experience very emotional. And it seems to be such a jumble of emotions, rather than just one or two. They are mostly kept in check, but found the first couple of times I listened to the guided imagery audio noted above, they all came bubbling up. It was a bit unnerving but hopefully it helps to release them than hold them in. And re: leaving it to the professionals, there is probably a unique balance for each of us somewhere between educating ourselves to the nth degree and completely trusting our medical caregivers. I wonder sometimes if I am kidding myself with everything I have tried to study and understand and decide myself. It's a tough one....
Asb, I too am sorry about the nipple decision. But I have read amazing reviews on that Vinnie person as well! And re: the air expanders, I wonder if Whippetmom and her magical team of boob whisperers
might know anything about those?
Rubaiyat, gosh I am sorry there is another potential change in direction, and readjusted expectations. That takes a toll when you are trying to remain so positive
. On the upside, I have always been so impressed, borderline surprised, that so many ladies that have had the DIEP seem utterly delighted with their results. I am sure you will arrive at the right answer once you have had some time to consider everything. And I completely blanked on asking my PS today about bringing my phone into the surgery to listen so will try again when I meet with BS on the 2nd when I arrive at the hospital.
Oh, and one last thing for everybody, re: Exparel, the anaesthetic recommended a few days ago by sandra4611 from the March thread. I took her printout in to my appt and my PS said sadly for me, they do not yet have it to offer in the UK but he really thinks it is amazing! He saw it at a conference last year and said it was the first thing he asked his anaesthetist about when he returned. So it certainly sounds worth mentioning
Have a lovely day everyone!
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Hi Sisters! I just found this site and am scheduled April 2 for a mastectomy and recon(or TE) on one side and lift on the other. I have already had a hip surgery, chemo, and hormone treatments as I am stage IV with bone mets. I have been reading many posts about trying to prepare for both the surgery and the recovery. I am very thankful for all of the tips from those who have gone before me. I am trying to keep a positive attitude, but the waiting is hard. I am anxious to get the surgery done so that I can recover and enjoy some warm summer days with my new grandbaby.
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