Starting Chemo in March 2014

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  • denise-41ky
    denise-41ky Member Posts: 3
    edited March 2014

    This is my first post so bare with me! I'm a 41 year old wife of 23 years, mother of two children. A daughter age 12 and a son age 23. I found out I have breast cancer on February 17, 2014. Since then it has been a roller coaster! After tests, biopsies, and scans I've ended up at the Markey Cancer Center in Lexington Ky.  I am actually typing this first post while taking my first chemo. I have to take a total of 6. Then surgery, then 6 more months of herceptin. So this is just the beginning! I've went thru so many emotions over the past month. I have a strong support base and a husband that won't quit! He researches everything and even signed me up for this site. He's been my rock! My kids have been wonderful too I'm one lucky girl even though this has happened! I'm gonna hang in the best I can! 

  • jmg58
    jmg58 Member Posts: 185
    edited March 2014

    Welcome, Denise....sounds like you have a terrific family! That's such a great help!!   I hope it's going smoothly for you today!   Big hugs!  I know about the emotions thing.....it's a lot for sure....but you're in the right place here; there's so many lovely people.  Get some rest tonight and drink lots of water while you're sitting there. 

  • megomendy
    megomendy Member Posts: 141
    edited March 2014


    My center comes around with lunch for patients, sandwiches, and offers you a choice of chips, cookies, drinks, and jello! Then they put all the leftovers in the kitchen so caregives can help themselves. I said yes to everything, but brought my own lunch because I'm not such a sandwich person.

  • jmg58
    jmg58 Member Posts: 185
    edited March 2014

    Today, the tip half of my tongue is bright bright ugly red....and
    the rest is normal or turning white. The tip/red part is sensitive and
    sort of burning. Is this the precursor to sores or thrush? Anyone else
    have this and can tell me what to expect to happen with this? Thanks!

  • Kris103
    Kris103 Member Posts: 57
    edited March 2014

    jmg58 - I didn't have the redness on my tongue, but I did have thrush, which is probably what is happening with the part that is turning white. It's a form of yeast infection, so call your MO right away for medication. I was on Nystatin, which is a liquid that you swish in your mouth and either spit or swallow, 5 times a day for something like 10 days. Also be on the lookout for signs of a vaginal yeast infection as well. Do whatever you can to shut down those infections right away! It can be bad news if your white count is low - that's how I wound up in hospital.

  • Xrayalli
    Xrayalli Member Posts: 237
    edited March 2014

    I guess I'm lucky, too, my facility feeds us lunch and whoever you have with you. They provide blankets, soda, even. They are buying my wig for me, too., because I had so much hassle with the wig shop. I just wanted my own special blanket.  Good luck to everyone starting soon, my second is Thursday, I am weekly on Taxol.

  • jbdayton
    jbdayton Member Posts: 700
    edited March 2014

    I didn't have true thrush but had the white fuzzy tongue.  My oncologist wrote my pharmacy a script for liquid lodocaine.

    I made the mixture myself.  One part children's Advil, one part children's benydryl one part maalox and five drops of lidocaine.  some pharmacies call this "majic mouthwash".  Ask your MO immediately.  It only gets worse if not treated.  

  • WifeWBC
    WifeWBC Member Posts: 53
    edited March 2014

    Thought I'd post an update on my wife's first what, ...... 11 days of chemo.  Jackie is 40 and getting 6 rounds of TAC every 3 weeks.  The actual chemo infusion was rather a 'pleasant' (as pleasant as it could have been) experience because my wife had one of her colleagues from nursing school administering the 'chemistry'.  The nurse made my wife feel comfortable and was pleasant and chatty and we've prepared ourselves well in advance.  Made a big difference, and we could ask questions and be informal with her.  We were told beforehand that it might take 6-7 hours on our first date, but it was over in about 4 because they weren't busy in the "Chemo Suite" (suite makes me laugh-like it's a hotel room).  It was Friday, so Jackie was able to get her meds one after the other, and her bloodwork had been done prior to our visit. 

    Wish I could say Jackie's first week was a breeze, but I would be lying.  During days 1-7 ,she complained mostly about pains in her neck and shoulders, lower back, and pounding headaches a lot of the time.  Also waves of nausea seemed to come and go throughout the week, and she had a fair bit of trouble sleeping.  Think I covered everything there.  She blames the Neulasta for the pain.  We'll ask the MO and see what she has to say for more pain management.  Jackie also had a heavy (for her) period during the week, so we also think the meds might simply have exacerbated the symptoms - cramps and headaches.  If that is the case, then perhaps these can be avoided in the next round.  We'll see.

    Not to say days 1-7 weer without good days, but my guess is that days 1 and 2 were spent largely feeling nauseous and laying in bed.  Day 3-4 might have been up and around, but ceratinly tiring in the evening.  The end of the week days 5-7 were probably the worst, and that is when the period began, and much of the pain/headaches were felt.

    Day 8 was Saturday, and I posted that Jackie woke up feeling great.  She still had to take a little lie down in he afternoon.  I watched my soccer (football) matches on TV all weekend while Jack relaxed in bed.  My 2 boys had gone with nan around the Bay (as they say here) to do some ice fishing.  I took my 2 girls to a concert, and we had a nice relaxing weekend.  Sunday, came and wife was improving. 

    Monday and Tuesday (today) and wife has been her normal self.  Incredible.  She is on top of her game, and twerking in the kitchen with her bandana on her head.  Go girl!  I hope that is that for any more down time till the next round from this shitty treatment.  We're both of the impression that if the rest of the treatment goes like this, and she can sail through 2 weeks unscathed, then it will not be so bad.  Interested to see what everyone else's response to chemo has been after 7-14 days.   Can we expect this 1 weewk downtime to get worse or longer over the 6 treatments, I wonder?   

    I guess the next big drama will be when Jackie starts to shed the hair.  By all accounts, that will happen this coming weekend, or early next week, some time.  Jack went to a Cancer Make Up Clinic today at the centre.  They have a bunch of volunteers who show the women how to beautify themselves when the visual effects start to take a toll.  What make up to use etc.  They gave all the women tips and $400 worth of make up supplies.  I must say, the amount of free support (wigs, make up, prosthesis etc.) we have been able to avail of, has been pretty astounding.

    Will let you know how we get on over next two weeks.  IF this is what it is, then we're sure Jackie can make it through the challenge.  Hopefully you all have it as good as Jackie has, if not better.  Good luck and God Bless everyone!

  • jmg58
    jmg58 Member Posts: 185
    edited March 2014

    Thanks for the update, WifeWBC.....I'm so glad to hear that she's doing better now.  Also interesting for me since I'm 5 days out and you said she didn't feel well for the first 7...so we'll see what tomorrow brings for me.  So nice that she had a great nurse for the infusion....that certainly had to put her much more at ease than otherwise...and it sounds like if she's twerking in the kitchen, she's certainly got a great upbeat attitude!I certainly hope she's gonna feel good now for the next two weeks!

    I have to check out one of those Look Good Feel Good Things...I know there was one here a couple of weeks before my chemo which I couldn't attend because of work...I'm hoping there's another coming up sometime soon!  

    I got a prescription today for Nystatin for the thrush, have to use every 6 hours...swish and SWALLOW.  Feel a little nauseous from it; so just took only my second nausea pill...hope it works for this.

    Night, all...wishing you all pleasant dreams.

  • WifeWBC
    WifeWBC Member Posts: 53
    edited March 2014

    My wife read an article about a 10 year old local boy that went to a hockey game here on the weekend, thanks to some local volunteers.  The young lad has lost most of his hair and faces over a year of chemo treatments for leukemia.  He cries each time he goes for his treatment.  It puts in perspective what my wife is going through.  It's shitty, but some people have it even shittier.  Even young kids.  Must say it has given my wife a positive outlook knowing how brave that young lad has been, and relatively fortunate her short treatment will be.  Have faith everyone.  Stay positive.  Fight - fight - fight!!!

  • NinaW
    NinaW Member Posts: 110
    edited March 2014

    Hey, WifeWBC - what a terrific report - go, Jackie!!!  Sounds as though she was able to right the ship with good speed and is now back to living her life instead of bobbing and weaving around these stupid side effects :-) 

    With regard to what you can expect, I can only suggest that you not "borrow" symptoms from anyone else's experience, because we're truly all so different when it comes to chemo and how our bodies process it. I have heard that to some extent, the effects are sort of cumulative, and many who managed earlier cycles with relative ease do struggle a bit toward the end because their reserves of energy are fairly depleted. But again, that's not a guarantee that Jackie will find she's dragging herself through those last few treatments. I think there's a lot to be said for the power of your state of mind, you know? The end of treatment can be a finish line that you stride across with a tremendous feeling of accomplishment and pride, or it can be a shore onto which you crawl after having spent so many months at sea. 

    Chemo is hard. It's as physically challenging as anything you're ever going to experience in your life. I hope Jackie can be patient with herself if her body asks for some time to recuperate, because holy cow, it deserves that. And no matter what, Jackie will make it through. 

  • heroldman
    heroldman Member Posts: 22
    edited March 2014

    Txplanner. Your description of your son sounds much how my wife is in normal times. You can imagine how she is when cranked up on the steroids. I am very tired but she is going strong. I know she will level out after a bit.

    Nina. Thanks for the advice. She has had several experiences with the steroids account of her past physical problems. I do not always like what they do to her but it was part of the prescribed treatments then and even though this is a new experience some things seem to be the same. Her surgeon gave her a script for hydrocodone to help with the pain associated with the port. She is taking all her meds on time and is not having any nausea yet. I do not understand your statement about me not letting her argue with me. I am a married man and we are always supposed to agree with everything our wives say. How can there ever be an argument?? : ) ........ 

    WifeWBC. Thanks for the update. Did your wife try Claritin to help with the Neulasta pain? My wife got her Neulasta shot this morning. She has had no pain, but I realize that it is pretty early to tell much about this. I got her Claritin since it seems to be a low risk thing to try. I am also having her rinse her mouth with salt water as I saw this mentioned as a possible preventive measure for the mouth sores. Salt and water are both pretty cheap so this is a low cost experiment. She likes it when I am thrifty!   She wanted to get a wig so I had her pick out a few and ordered those along with some other accessories and included another wig in the order as a surprise bonus.

    I also did a little something for myself today. I ran into a pusher outside a local supermarket. I tried to resist buying the drugs she was pushing but my will is weak. I ended up getting 2 boxes of thin mints from the little drug dealer dressed as a girl scout. I did one box today and am afraid I will use up my supply sometime tomorrow. I have such a love/hate for those thin mints.


  • maryland
    maryland Member Posts: 1,298
    edited March 2014

    Oh wow, herald man, I ran into that same pusher, the little munchkins are making their rounds. I too was weak,  and since addicts do love company I bought a box for my hubby. Sadly, he does not possess the willpower that I have and his box is nearly empty. He will now stop at nothing to find my stash but I have hidden them securely, he may have to find his own pusher…

    Serioulsly, I'm glad to hear that your wife is feeling better, I think one day at a time is what we all have to focus on here, with the finish line in the back of our minds. I just had my first chemo last Friday, and so far my SE have been barely anything to speak of, then I start reading about what may happen after round 2 and I have to pull myself back to the present… Right now, all is well. That story about that boy with leukemia does put things in perspective, all the young women on here do that for me as well. Going through this while raising kids… I'm just to glad mine waited till I was 56, my grand baby is only 2 months so I don't have to put on a brave face for her.

    Nina, you hit it on the head about not borrowing symptoms, yesterday I started reading about the mouth sores and I started wondering if I was going to get them. THen I had to reel myself in and realize that I don't have them now… period.

    Xrayalli, you sound very strong, thanks for starting this thread, I don't post a lot but I do read up on each of you everyday.

    I do, however have a little insomnia which is why I'm typing here at 4:30 am.. I don't have to work tomorrow so I took a half a xanax, and drinking chamomile tea and shooting for sleeping in. May not happen, my dogs have an internal alarm and hubby's away on business… we'll see.

    Denise41, good luck, we're all of us here in about the same place, for me like I said above it's all about staying in today. My good friend just spent a few nights here while my hubby is gone and she kept talking about the vacation we're going to take when I'm done, and next spring this and that. It's not that I'm NOT planning for down the road, I'm going to watch my granddaughter graduate HS.  but I finally told her, I just need to do this first, be right here today and tomorrow and the weekend…. it's just where I need to be right now.

    Anyway, that's my now 5am ramble, hope you're all having sweet dreams….

  • denise-41ky
    denise-41ky Member Posts: 3
    edited March 2014

    Well I had my first chemo treatment yesterday. It lasted about 5 hours which was not as long as I anticipated it to last I thought it was going to be at least 6 hours. They were really nice there, they of course had drinks and snacks and I was in a private little room by the nursing station I guess maybe because it was my first time. But anyway I feel good but I am on steroids right now this is probably why I got up at 3:00 am this morning. I didn't want to toss and turn anymore because I didn't want to disturb my husband he sounded like he was sleeping good. I know he's wore out. We drive 2 1/2 hours for my appointments to the cancer center so he needs his rest too.

    I plan on working today because I feel good so I want to be as normal as possible until I crash off this medicine. I know my good feeling is only temporary so I choose to enjoy today. I love reading these posts on here because it gives me a heads-up on things I could possibly expect. I know every person is different but I will have some of these side effects. I feel better prepared for what's going to happen and what to look for.

    And genny5775 I too have a best buddy that is already planning a super vacation for when I beat this cancer thing! Those friends are always good to have around!

    I hope everyone has a great day, its time to get ready for work. I wanna do what I can while I able....

  • Mitzro
    Mitzro Member Posts: 48
    edited March 2014

    Good Morning (Day after round #2 of AC) - doing fine this morning, but felt like a zombie after that treatment.  Boy,I don't know why, but as the nurse pulled all the tubes out and cleaned up my port.  I could hardly keep my eyes open.  A friend of mine drove me home and I think I slept almost continuously from 1:30 or so to now...that's about 16 hours or something like that.  CRAZY!  Of course I had to get up and take an anti nausea and an Ativan during that time and drink water and pee a few times as well.  So....so far so good.  No mouth sores yet, which I am really happy about because I do tend to get those.

    Oh one more thing, as I was blowdrying my hair to get out the door yesterday, I noticed the longer strands of my now short haircut just slowly coming out.  I have to say I have had so much preparation here with you all and with friends of mine that have gone before me, but it was still a very strange feeling.  This morning I still have hair (at least for one more day....maybe more) so I'll take it.

    My son comes home from college tonight for Spring Break....really looking forward to giving him a big hug! I hope you all have good things in store for you today!

  • mom2Bnegativex3
    mom2Bnegativex3 Member Posts: 221
    edited March 2014

    YAY, Denise! Welcome and congrats on one down:)

    Mitzro, round #2 down and not so bad? WOO HOO!!

  • babyduck
    babyduck Member Posts: 63
    edited March 2014


    Had #3 of 12 Taxol... have never suffered from fatigue..usually on the go...Are any of your symptoms dizziness. I feel like I'm on a boat. MO thinks it could be inner ear cuz I was doing this some right before chemo started. However, the breast was changing daily which meant the BC was changing/growing so I have contributed it to fatigue. Any thoughts?

  • Mitzro
    Mitzro Member Posts: 48
    edited March 2014

    I am doing AC and although I do feel woozy...I don't really feel like I'm rocking.  I am thinking WATER, WATER, WATER right?Good luck!


  • Mitzro
    Mitzro Member Posts: 48
    edited March 2014

    Good attitude Denise!  Have a wonderful day!!

  • MedicMom2
    MedicMom2 Member Posts: 26
    edited March 2014

    xrayalli- 

    I like your diet plan.Cheezits (like chocolate) make everything better!! 

  • jmg58
    jmg58 Member Posts: 185
    edited March 2014

    I don't feel well enough to catch up at the moment, but I did see the words chocolate and Cheezits and that certainly deserved one of these:  

  • MedicMom2
    MedicMom2 Member Posts: 26
    edited March 2014

    ok ladies (and gentlemen I see)...

    My oncotype is 40 so I start act 2 of this 5 act play with chemo on 3/27. 4 rounds of TC. I have found some great hints, tips, tricks (rubber glove ice is brilliant!!!!) from you all and NOW am so very ready to get going!!!!!

    Deb

  • Mitzro
    Mitzro Member Posts: 48
    edited March 2014

    I hope you feel better JMG58. 

    Medicmom - Welcome to the group.  It's a great group of women and a couple men.  That is for sure!

  • Xrayalli
    Xrayalli Member Posts: 237
    edited March 2014

    Wow, lots of updates, great to see so many positive people and cheerful attitudes, not to mention the fighting spirit! I am happy I started this thread, too! 

    Since I am doing weekly Taxol tomorrow is #2 for me, days 5 &7 were my good days. Someone was mentioning a woozy feeling, I've experienced this a lot. Days 1-4 were mainly a lot, and I do mean a lot, of stomach pain, not nausea at least. And I also have had a migraine 4 nights out of the last 6, wonder if I'll get one tonight. 

    I need to head to bed but not before I pack my cheezits, bugles and raisinets for chemo. Don't judge! HUGS

  • NinaW
    NinaW Member Posts: 110
    edited March 2014

    Good luck tomorrow, Alli!!!!!  I love Bugles so much (in the pantheon of chip-like products, they tie for number #2 with Doritos Cool Ranch chips, but both of them must take a back seat to the ultimate sleazy chip, which is Munchos). Also, Cheezits are coated with cheesey powder, and cheese is protein, and Raisinets are fruit, so who can judge you? WHO? Nobody, that's who.

    I had my Herceptin infusion this afternoon. The chemo nurse was horrified when she saw all of my mouth sores, and wanted to know why I didn't call her about them. Um, because I knew I was going to be seeing her in a day and I had Anbesol and baking soda until then? She gave me a scrip for magic mouthwash and also some samples of Gelclair, which is like MuGard (these are products that basically coat the lining of your mouth and prevent sores, or if sores have formed, the coating lets those sores heal up). 

    Keep on keepin' on, March chemo people!!

  • AKJ
    AKJ Member Posts: 190
    edited March 2014

    Yikes, Nina!  I'm so glad you got the magic mouthwash.  I hope the sores clear up soon!

  • JoTro
    JoTro Member Posts: 57
    edited March 2014

    Hey folks, just checking in today - first infusion, will be having four in total, 21 days apart.  Feeling weird, tired finally after the hyper of the steroids.  Had no sleep last night, well I could of been sleeping, but I was asking myself that question all through the night - so probably was quite awake.

    Went to the meeting last night for new cancer patients at the local Cancer Society.  It was interesting, nothing I did not know but just nice to chat amongst the "knowers".  Go every Wednesday night for 6 weeks, so I am sure we will get to know each other quite well.  Felt good doing that the night before treatment started.

    Infusion went well, feeling fine, hoping the next few days are SE minimal?

    Good luck to all of those who are starting treatment this week - ((hugs))

  • maryland
    maryland Member Posts: 1,298
    edited March 2014

    Day 6 since my first chemo, Cytoxan and Taxotere. 1st 3 days I had no side effects except constipation, Last 3 day, a little nausea, a little constipation, a little achiness in my hips and some fatigue. So far nothing that compazin, tylenol,extra sleep & prune juice/MOM haven't kept at bay. Going back to work today, I took time off to see how I'd feel. One thing I have noticed is that my scalp is tender, I didn't expect that yet since they said it'd be 3 weeks till I lost my hair…. anyone else noticing that? 

    Nina, glad you got meds for the mouth sores, I'll know what to do if that starts for me, thanks for sharing the info. 

    I get to babysit my 2 1/2 month old granddaughter (my first) all day tomorrow and I'm so excited. I haven't seen her in 2 weeks.. I can't wait!

    Have a good day everybody, hold you all keep those SE at bay today….

  • Kris103
    Kris103 Member Posts: 57
    edited March 2014

    genny - I'm at Day 14, and my scalp has been getting a little sore the past few days. Looks like today may be haircut day, as I'm now brushing out some pretty big clumps. My daughter is talking about giving me a mohawk before finishing off the chemo chop. As long as it amuses her, that's fine by me. Better that it be a wacky, fun experience than a scary one.

  • jmg58
    jmg58 Member Posts: 185
    edited March 2014

    Good morning, ladies.   I wish I were doing as well as some of you.  It's day 7 for me and I still have a fever, thrush, migraine, exhausted, malaise..  Going to doctor appointment today which I didn't know I was supposed to have until I called her about the fevers yesterday.  Hopefully she will okay that I've stayed home from work so far..no way I could commute an hour each way and then work for 6 people for 8 hours.  I'd collapse.  So maybe she'll give me an answer or maybe I just take longer than everyone else.  All I want to do is lay in bed and crash.

    Hope your day is better...spring was on its way here and now I see it snowed last night AGAIN! 

    Welcome JoTo and good luck to xrayalli and everyone else going today.  Forgive me if I didn't read back too far; not up to it today....

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