Hoping I did not wait too long

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  • 4sewwhat
    4sewwhat Member Posts: 2,093
    edited March 2014

    Hi Ktjay,

    Glad you are home and on the mend!  Do stay positive.  One node does not necessarily mean chemo or rads.  There are a ton of other things involved in that decision!  If they are not already running an Oncotype test, you might want to request one.  That taked into consideration up to 3 positive nodes and depending on the results it will help factor into your chemo decision.

    Good luck and continue to feel better!

  • Ktjay
    Ktjay Member Posts: 64
    edited March 2014

    Thanks 4sewwhat, how are you doing?  How do you feel after your reconstruction?  I see you had yours done in stages.  I am only 2 weeks out from mine so it still feels weird to me and my arms are still really tight and sore.  I got part of my pathology and staging back, I am stage IIB, T2N0, my Her2 needs more testing evidently.  I go to see the oncologist on Tuesday.  My surgeon said I will not need radiation and he is opting for Arimidex or something similar for 10 years. 

  • maryland
    maryland Member Posts: 1,298
    edited March 2014

    Hi ktjay, I'm doing OK, thanks for asking. MY official dx came back, ER+, PR+, Her2-. T1N1M0. I am having chemo 1st, Cytoxan and Taxotere every 3wks x 6 rounds. Then I'll wait 3 wks, then lumpectomy and axillary dissection, then 6 wks, then radiation 5/wk for 6 1/2 weeks. Then hormone therapy for 10 years. Figure I'll be done by Thanksgiving, have my own head of hair by Christmas. I went to the rad oncologist yesterday for a meet and greet kinda thing. She explained to my that although my CA is only a grade 1, it has left the "capsule" of at least 2 lymph nodes, hence the chemo first. She said the actual tumor is very small, only about a centimeter but the CA seems to be getting ready to make a run for it. I guess that's part of it being lobular, it can just kinda grow like a spider web. I had my first chemo last Friday, so far I'm having minimal SE. A little nausea, a little constipation, a little bone pain, but none of it anything that Tylenol, Compazine and prune juice haven't fixed. Tomorrow is my 1st day back at work, I took off for this 1st round to see how it'd be. I'm hoping this is the worst of it, trying to not let my mind go to far beyond the moment. 

    So you're done with surgery, when do you start chemo? Any news on your HER2 status yet? How'd your reconstruction turn out? It's hard to believe how fast our worlds have turned upside down, isn't it? I got my dx on Valentine's Day and 1 month to the day later was getting my 1st chemo. Seems like Key West was months ago though. I think you were just about a week ahead of me and you're already post-op. How's the pain? Are you getting the ACT chemo? Glad to hear you're moving along with your tx… keep in touch

  • Ktjay
    Ktjay Member Posts: 64
    edited March 2014

    Hi Genny,

    Yeah what a world wind, I am doing okay since surgery, I have to get my range of motion back in my arms.  I just got my last drain removed today, thank goodness.  Everything seems to be healing okay.  My breasts still have a lot of swelling and it feels like I have a girdle around my chest, but my plastic surgeon says that will all fade in time.  I started on Tamoxifen right after diagnosis and have continued on that each day.  I go to the oncologist on Tuesday to find out my treatment, I am nervous about that.  I still do not really understand my cancer yet.  How do they know how many lymph nodes you have involved if you have not had your nodes removed yet?  See I think because I opted to go so radical things are different.  My surgeon said he would opt for me to just take the hormone therapy for 10 years and not do chemo, but I will do whatever the oncologist says. I am just trying to keep picturing that all the cancer has been removed.  I picture the surgeon balling up the cancer and throwing it in the trash can :)  I am anxious to see what my new breasts will look like, it takes a good month or so till they pop out and all the swelling goes down.  I am glad you are doing so well.  Please keep me posted on how you are. 

  • 4sewwhat
    4sewwhat Member Posts: 2,093
    edited March 2014

    Hi Ktjay,

    I'm doing well, thanks for asking!  Hope you are continuing to feel better every day.  My arms are still tight!!  I was lucky to come out of my MX both times with full range of motion.  What they neglected to tell me is that just because I could didn't mean I should.  They said you probably won't be able to lift your arm above your shoulder.  I kinda took that as a challenge!!

    I would suggest you go to a LE certified therapist ASAP.  They can show you good easy stretches that will make a huge difference.  But also, the massage feels great!!!

    I did my surgeries in stages because i was on crutches when I got diagnosed.  I was still taking stairs one at a time and having trouble getting off the couch and potty with my bum foot! (dislocated, shattered ankle!) I could not imaging having both arms and one foot out of commission all at once, so I did one boob at a time.  It really worked out great that way.

    I felt great right after my exchange!  Probably too great because I was back at my normal hectic pace right away.  I didn't realize it had only been 6 weeks until my incision popped open the tiniest bit, during and ice storm in Atlanta that had the roads closed :0(   By the time my doc saw me I had an infection and lost my right implant.  So now I sit with a drain, flatter than I was at my original MX and wait to start over.  UGH

    Did you get that Oncotype test ordered????  That will give you a big puzzle piece for the chemo question.  Did they do a Sentinal Node Biopsy??

    You and Genny have a great weekend!!

  • maryland
    maryland Member Posts: 1,298
    edited March 2014

    4sewwhat, wow, sounds like you've been throughout the wringer, now drains back again..arrggh… sounds awful. I had my 1st day back at work since chemo 6 days ago and I found out I need to slow it down a bit too. I'm so used to just working nonstop (I do hair in a retirement home), and I usually don't stop to eat or barely go to the bathroom. Well, I scheduled 12 today and about half way thru I hit a wall, got really nauseated, had to tell my customer to just sit while I drank some soup and ate my soda crackers and took compazine. Customers don't care, I don't know why I do that. So after that I was fine, but got home and was so tired. Normally, I can handle about 15 in a day, I'm going to have to cut it back.  I guess we just need to learn to listen to our bodies. 

    Anyway, good luck to you, I hope that drain comes out soon, and infection is gone. Any idea when you can get the implant replaced?

  • Ktjay
    Ktjay Member Posts: 64
    edited March 2014

    Girls, I think that message that Genny said is so right, we just have to learn to listen to our bodies and take care of ourselves right now.  I tried to drive the other day and it took a lot out of me.  I just found some good stretching exercises so today I really started making an effort to get that range back.  4sewwhat, I am so sorry to hear you have a drain back in. It is really hard to not over do.  My doctor took me off work for 6 weeks and I am taking advantage of it for the full 6 wks.  My job is really stressful and I am going to use the time to find another job.  4sewwhat, I go Tuesday and should have more pieces to my puzzle.  I hope you girls have a great weekend and both of you need to rest. 

  • 4sewwhat
    4sewwhat Member Posts: 2,093
    edited March 2014

    Ktjay!  I have 4 kids at home, there is no rest!!!!!  I feel great, that is what gets me in trouble!!

    I don't mind the drain, it's better than the big needle once a week and watching my wanna be boob deflate before my eyes time and time again!!!  Infection has been gone for a couple of weeks.  When he pulled off fluid I suggested we culture again.  It came back clean.  I am on the antiB's until the drain comes out.

    Hopefully we can go back in with some fat grafting and an expander by mid June.  May just be fat then and TE 3 months later.   Swim suit season is gona suck!!!

    Genny. each chemo gets easier with SEs, although different each time just to keep you guessing!  Do take it easy though.  I only went out club hopping on alternate weekends 

    Ktjay!  I can't wait to hear about your puzzle pieces!!  I hope they are the giant toddler pieces and you only need a few to put the whole pic together!

    Have a great weekend ladies!!!  Do something fun and ignore this crap for a while!!

    Lynne

  • Ktjay
    Ktjay Member Posts: 64
    edited March 2014

    Genny,

    How is chemo going?  I just saw the oncologist and he said he would like me to do the 6 treatments (1 every 3 wks) of the taxotere and Cytoxan then 10 years of arumidex.  I am nervous about the chemo, I am not sure yet if I want to do it.  The arumidex is the major part of treatment it fights the lobular cancer, the chemo just ups the odds of it working.  I guess, there I have answered my own question, upping the odds is a good thing right.  I am just so nervous about chemo; however, I guess whatever it takes to eradicate the cancer.  I am going to talk to my plastic surgeon tomorrow and my general surgeon on Thursday to get their opinions and then make my decision.

  • maryland
    maryland Member Posts: 1,298
    edited March 2014

    Hi ktjay, I am on the exact same plan, Cytoxan, Taxotere every 3/wks x 6 doses. Then I will have 3 weeks off, then a lumpectomy, and axillary dissection, then 6 weeks off, then radiation 5x/wk for 6 1/2 weeks, then hormone therapy for 10 years, I don't know what kind yet....Phew, makes my head spin, I figure I'll be done by Thanksgiving. I try not to think past the next treatment which brings me to your question, how's the chemo going. I've had only 1 tx, which was 11 days ago. I had no negative reaction at all during the chemo or for 3 days except for constipation. On the 4th day I became fatigued and kind of sore all over, especially in the hips. Not bad just sort of like I had worked out really hard the day before or something. You'll have to get a Neulasta shot the day after chemo, it helps your body make new white blood cells. Anyway, it is what causes the bone pain. I've read that Claritan for 1 day before and 4 days after helps with this and I did take it and had very minimal bone pain. If I don't drink lots of water, I get a headache. The only other side effect so far is my old curse of my younger days...acne...just in the last couple of days, even on my scalp. Really thought I was done with Clearasol. And I have trouble sleeping but I think that's d/t stress not chemo.

    So you've finished surgery and had reconstruction right. How do your new boobs look? How's the pain and the stretching? Did you have to have all of your lymph nodes removed? I don't remember what stage your ILC is. I know when I was reading up on the chemo stuff, for mine it decreased the risk of reccurance  by like 70%. For me I feel the benefits are worth the really sucky year I'm gonna have. My goal is to watch my grandbaby grow up and to have the heartbreak of outliving my dogs. Anyway, I'll let you know how my next round goes, it is on April 4th. Take care, catch you later

  • Ktjay
    Ktjay Member Posts: 64
    edited March 2014

    Thanks Genny for the update, I guess I will just make the decision to do it, the odds they gave me were that if I did not do any treatment I had a 70% chance, but if I took just the hormonal therapy that increased to 82%; however, if I do the chemo and then the hormonal therapy that would push my odds to close to 90%.  Those are pretty good odds I guess, I just have to not be afraid, find my chemo balls :)  Yes, I am finished surgery and have had my reconstruction.  It really was not "painful" it is tight and sore to touch.  I have a long way to go with my range of motion, but I am working on it.  I started doing some yoga yesterday and it felt good.  They did remove 16 lymph nodes when they did my surgery, I had cancer in only 1.  Had that been negative I would get away with just being on the hormonal therapy, but because I had 1 lymph node involvement that is what is pushing me to go through chemo.  Did you get a port put in or are they just doing your chemo thru an IV?

  • slee56
    slee56 Member Posts: 7
    edited April 2014

    I was dxed with Lobular invasive cancer(2008) in my right breast 5.2cm and Lcis in the left breast. I also had hyperplasia in my uterus with large fibriods and on top of that a ob dr did a simple dc and c six weeks before my dx I had a d&c done and that surgon left a large dermiod tumor sticking out the back side of my uterus. I had a bmx and a tvh the same day..july 29th 2008. I had tac chemo 4 ac and 4 taxol 2008. I was on femura for 5 years until I got switched to exemestane about 6 months ago..  i had a pet scan a year ago and it was negative but i do know lobular likes to hide on scans...

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited April 2014

    Ktjay - So the actual benefit to you of chemo is 8%? I am not questioning your decision but 8% is not that high when set against statistics (based on solid research) that there is a 50% reduction in recurrence risk from daily exercise for women who have had BC...........that is 42% higher than chemo.........and are your stats based on 100% chance of getting BC again or on the percentage of people who recur, which would be lower. I am a great believer in listening to your gut and I don´t think your discomfort is necessarily down to fear............everyone is different.  For me the benefit of chemo I was given was between 8 and 13%, I chose not to do it as the chances of getting severe life quality affecting side effects from chemo were 25% +++ FOR ME.  I am happy with my decision, I know it was right for me no matter what happens in the future.  What do you sense is right for you if you take your own self criticism and judgement as being scared out of the equation?

  • Ktjay
    Ktjay Member Posts: 64
    edited April 2014

    Hi Lily 55, thanks for your thoughts.  Yeah the benefit of chemo is a very low percentage for what my body is going to go through, but upping odds is always good.  However, hoping daily exercise and diet will help with those side effects.  My cancer is genetic so those genes trump diet and exercise so that is what has pushed me to go all the way.  I was surprised that I got cancer because I exercised and thought I ate decent, but the doctor told me that my genetics is just so strong.  My grandmother, 2 aunts, mother and sister.  All of them, but my sister, had their cancer come back.  I lost 1 aunt with her first diagnosis, she had a very aggressive form, but my mom and other aunt, theirs came back 14 years later in the other breast.  My sister is 12 years out from her partial mastectomy and radiation and so we are waiting to see how she does.  I am scared of my decision, but would regret it if in 14 years from now it comes back and I had not taken all the measures.  I am okay with my decision, wish diet and exercise would have worked for me would have been a better choice :)

  • maryland
    maryland Member Posts: 1,298
    edited April 2014

    Hi Ktjay, been meaning to get back to you, I am doing fine, have now had 2 rounds of chemo. I am getting Taxotere and Cytoxan. The side effects for me have been very tolerable, only mild nausea, mild constipation. My hair has fallen out and I have these bumps on my scalp that are tender but all and all it's not been bad. I think I'm more afraid of the radiation than anything, but that's way down the road. Both of my grandmothers, 2 of my mom's sisters and 1 cousin have had BC, all in their 40's or 50's. My mom did not have it and I did not test positive for the gene. My biggest dilemma is whether to go with my MO and surgeon's opinion and just have the lumpectomy. They seemed convinced that it is all that is needed but I'm so worried about being right back here in a few years, especially given the fact that I know at least 2 nodes are involved and 1 had an extra nodal extension. They have not even offered me a choice at this point. I am going to see the MO before my next appt and talk to her more about this. When I get done with chemo, I will have another MRI before surgery and I may get a second opinion at that point.

    I'm glad your surgery went well, I hope you get through chemo with the same ease. The fact that you are in shape and take care of yourself will help a lot I think, and probably made the surgery go as well as it did. When do you start and which drugs?

     Well I am babysitting my 3 month old granddaughter now and she's starting to fuss. Talk to ya soon

  • Ktjay
    Ktjay Member Posts: 64
    edited April 2014

    Hi Genny, glad you are doing so well.  I started with the same Cytoxan and taxotere last Thursday.  I am having some stupid side effects that are just bothersome but nothing I can't tolerate and push through.  I ended up with thrush for some reason and that is uncomfortable but I am treating it. I had a couple of body aches after the Neulasta shot, but Tylenol helped with that.  I have some belly pains, but I have IBS normally and this is not helping that, but it is not extreme and it is tolerable.  I feel tired, but still doing yoga, walking and started trying to ride my bike for at least 5 minutes to help recover from surgery.  I shaved my head this weekend it was fun, we had a party and a bonfire.  I had lots of support and that really helped. 

    The decisions we have to make are hard ones I know.  When my family went through this they were not given the option either of having a mastectomy, let alone a bilateral mastectomy.  However, when they got in there and did the lumpectomy they found they had to go back in and do a single mastectomy; other than my sister who had a partial mastectomy.  They asked to have bilateral because my grandmother had a bilateral, but were turned down.  However, 14 years later for my mom and aunt their cancer came back in the other breast.  My sister is only 12 years out.  They had invasive lobular carcinoma as well and that spreads from one breast to the other from what I know.  Based on my family history and pattern when I was told what I had I knew what I wanted to do and told my doctor.  I was very fortunate that he listened to me and after knowing my family history and probably the fact my mom was just diagnosed in October with breast cancer so it was fresh in his mind, he did not even try to talk me out of it he said it was a good decision. All I can say is this is your journey and you have to listen to what feels right for you.  There are many women who just have the lumpectomy and do absolutely terrific.  I have a polymorphism in my genes so I feel I am at a higher risk so I have chosen to take extreme measures to try to knock it out. I did not want to have to go through this again in 14 years; although, no matter what I do I guess it could come back, but I will know I tried everything I could and that I can live with. 

    Enjoy that granddaughter, I have a 12-month-old grandson and a 5-year-old granddaughter, they are so precious.

  • maryland
    maryland Member Posts: 1,298
    edited April 2014

    Hi Ktjay, So many women on the lobular site, probably around 50% went into surgery thinking it was stage 2 and ended up stage 3. My administrator where I work had ILC last year and did the surgery first. They wanted to do a mastectomy so she told them to just take both and they ended up finding trace cells in the other one. So she asked her Dr if she would've ended up right back there in a couple of years and he told her yes. I like my MO and surgeon and they both com highly recommended, they both thought the neoadjuvant therapy was the way to go for me, said it should shrink it to almost nothing and then they can just remove it. The fact that we already know of lymph node involvement and it's grade 1 which would mean it's been there quite awhile. There is plenty of info on IDC but not so much on ILC and I know they treat them the same but it's got me concerned. I just need to talk to my MO more about it, I haven't seen her since my initial consult, been dealing with the CNP since. The lump that I could feel has shrunk quite a bit after 2 tx's so I guess it's working. I've asked the women on the ILC thread and without telling me what to do I can tell most of them would not have been comfortable with a lumpectomy… it's so much to think about.

    On my 2nd round with the Taxotere I took frozen peas and ace bandages. 2 bags on the bottoms of each foot and covering my toes and them my DH wrapped them for me, and I just held a bag in each hand and squished my fingernails into them hoping to ward off the neuropathy and nail damage, so far so good. It was fine since I only had to do it while the Taxotere dripped. Then I just brought the peas home and put em' back in the freezer till next time.… Right now I am battling with folliculitis really bad in my scalp. The Dr called me in some doxycycline, hopefully that will help.

    Are you doing your yoga at home or in a class? I went to a yoga class a few days after my 1st chemo but there were about 30 people there and I was nervous about my immune system, being so close with so many. I haven't been able to get myself into it at home.  I like to run but have gotten away from it with this brutal winter, now that it's getting nicer I hope to get back to it. At least maybe start jogging and enter some 5k's. 

    Well good luck with everything, hope you don't get too many SE's, how often are you having the chemo. Are you getting a port?

  • Ktjay
    Ktjay Member Posts: 64
    edited April 2014

    Hi Genny, yeah it is a big decision as to what to do and you are doing the right thing as far as asking questions then go with your gut.  I have family history so I know there is a big chance mine would have come back.  I was lucky that my right breast was clean.  I feel confident that they got it and now I just have to keep it away, which is what chemo and then aromasin therapy for 10 years should finish the job.  They did not tell me to take frozen peas to my next chemo, but I am going to ask them about that.  I have never heard of that.  I am glad it worked though.

    I do yoga at home.  I just put a tape in and do what I can.  I like the meditation part of it more than the physical side of it.  I find it relaxing.  Wish I did it more.  I try to walk as much as I can and I even started riding my bike for 5 minutes the other day.  My arms and chest are slowly getting to wear I can exercise a little more. My doctor gave me the ok to do more so I am going to push it a little. 

    I have had minimal side effects, just really stupid stuff.  I got thrush, I had severe pain one night in my chest and back, I have loose bowels and will get a pain before I have to go and now I seem to have a rash that I think is poison on my hands, yippee :)

    I like running, I used to run 3 miles, but that was years ago.  It was really hard on my back and knees so I switched to bike riding, which I love.

    Yes I have a port, do you?

    Hope you have minimal SE this time.

  • Ca-Blu
    Ca-Blu Member Posts: 1
    edited April 2014

    Hi Ktjay,

    Im a newly diagnosed ilc pt. Anxiously awaiting my (3 WEEK) wait for my surgeon consultation on 4/21. I have a 2.3cm (according to the mri) tumor in my left breast. My right breast according to mri has a few cysts under the nipple, but my nipple is sore and i have a reddish brown discharge (if i squeeze).  I've spent the past two weeks reading these boards sometimes fearing the worst.  Like you've all said, the waiting is the hardest part.

    Ive enjoyed reading the conversation between you and Genny.  My heart ached on that one entry Genny made after the pelvic u/s when she said she was having a meltdown.  Oh... How many times have i been there. One moment i feel strong and powerful and the next my world is falling down around me!  

    I think im leaning towards wanting a bmx.  Ive spoken with one surgeon whose recommendation was lumpectomy, then an oncologist who pretty much echoed that as standard. But ive read so many accounts where woman against that advice decided on bmx and found cancer in the other breast.  Fortunately yours did not, but it doesnt sound like you regretted your decsion?!

    I have a question about your reconstruction. It looks like most posts ive read ladies get spacers put in at initial surgery then have reconstruction done 3-6-12 months later.  You did yours with 1st surgery right? What type of reconstruction was it? Are you happy with the results? I realize it's only been about a month! You mentioned they went bigger, the day after surgery. Did the swelling go down?  What size were you before and what size after?

    In reading about reconstructions where they take the muscle from your stomach it sounds so scary. And the months of stretching skin?  I feel like my primary agenda is to be healthy and cured of cancer and vanity places a second role.  But in reading your account.... Do it all at once it didnt sound as bad?  I was just wondering if you could comment on that decision and how it went and how you feel about it.

    Im 43 years old. A nice c cup and have always enjoyed my breasts (and my husband too).  Ive often joked recently, "i think i have the most loved breasts, i dont understand why they're causing me so much trouble right now!"  I'm not sure how i would feel without that contour on my chest?

    Thanks for any and all insight.

    You ladies are all so amazing! Im so happy i found this site!

    Smiles & Hugs,

    Blu

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited April 2014

    ILC comes in all shapes and combos. I am Pleomorphic ILC with ductal features. Grade 3 with 9/9 lymph nodes. Triple positive. So, very aggressive, not usually found with ILC. Triple negative is just one other combo, maybe not common, but possible. 

  • maryland
    maryland Member Posts: 1,298
    edited May 2014

    Hi Ktjay, I'm doing fine, haven't been on the boards much lately. I had my 3rd chemo 2 weeks ago and it was the roughest I guess but only in terms of fatigue. I had the chemo on a Friday and tried to run(jog) a 5K on Sunday. It took me 38 minutes a knocked the snot out of me for the rest of the day, and pretty much the next day too, 3 miles used to be nothing for me. I won't be doing it again till this is over, it just wasn't worth the fatigue that followed. That Monday at work even my blow dryer seemed to weigh 50 lbs. Even last weekend I took a 2 hr nap in the middle of the day, can't remember ever doing that. Other than that and the scalp thing I've been really lucky. Very little nausea, no neuropathy and I still have some eyelashes and eyebrows and peach fuzz on my head. I still don't know what I'm going to do about surgery yet when I'm all done. I have an appt with the surgeon between my last 2 tx's and I'm sure she'll order and MRI and I'm hoping she can help me figure it all out. If I go with the lumpectomy only, I would have to have yearly MRI's. I have a $5000 deductible and an MRI is $4000 so that in itself is something to think about. I'm trying to stay in the moment while still weighing my options. I'll know exactly what I'm doing by the end of June I figure.

    Well I have to go to work now, you've had 2 tx's? Are yours every 2 wks or 3? Anyway, I do have to go, 1st customer at 9. I try and pop in tonight or this weekend. How is your daughter with the heart condition? And your 2 others, everyone handling it OK?

    Gotta go bye for now

  • Ktjay
    Ktjay Member Posts: 64
    edited May 2014

    Wow Genny a 5K, good job girl.  I can imagine how tired you were.  I am glad you felt you were able to do it in the first place though.  I am glad you are not having too many side effects.  I had tmt #2 and I had less side effects, but a little more fatigue.  On Sunday I did not run, but I did vacuum my house, mopped my floors, took the dogs for a walk, did dishes and 5 loads of laundry.  Well Monday came and I missed work, my slippers felt like they weighed 10 pounds each and I got the heebee geebees so bad I couldn't stand it.  They said my white cell count was high and running rampid through my bone marrow.  It was horrible.  I eventually took a pain pill, calmed it down and rested my butt.  Lesson learned for next treatment, do not overdo it in a day, you pay the next day.... I try to walk everyday at least for 20 minutes, I wish I could run or ride my bike again, but I think at this point I have to wait till my treatments are over because my chest is coming around, but the fatigue will knock me now so I am going to stick with walking.  My daughter with the heart condition is doing good, she just got a puppy, a little black Labrador.  He is so cute.  She can't have children so I call him my grandpuppy :)  My Son and his family are doing well, he doesn't really come around much, I think he is afraid to see me.  If he can't see me he doesn't have to face what I am going through.  As far as making your decision about surgery.  Do your homework on your cancer so you have the questions for your surgeon and you can get the right answers.  I know I based mine on my family experience.  My mom had ILC and she had a lumpectomy, then to a mastectomy and chemotherapy followed by 8 years of tamoxifen and other similar drugs until her body couldn't take anymore.  Then 14 years later her cancer came back to the other side and she had to have a mastectomy on that side and is back on the aromasin therapy for at least 2 years to finish a 10-year course.  From my knowledge the ILC jumps to the other breast.  My aunt had the same thing and it took hers 14 years as well.  Now she never had chemo or radiation and I do not believe she ever had any lymph node involvement.  It is such a tough decision and you will make the right one for you.  This is such a personal journey and you have to do what you feel is best for yourself.  You will make the right decision.  How is your family doing?  Happy Mother's Day...

  • Ktjay
    Ktjay Member Posts: 64
    edited May 2014


    Hi Genny,

    Just had to share, I have folliculitis now.  I had a sore head for awhile and then I had like a rash, but the past couple of days it came out in full. UGH!!!!!!!  I got put on doxycycline so hopefully it will go away.  It is nasty looking.  Hope you are doing well.

  • maryland
    maryland Member Posts: 1,298
    edited May 2014

    Hi Ktjay, ugh…it is nasty, one of the ladies on one of the threads gave me advice for last time around and it really worked. Get some Hibiclens, you can get it at any drugstore, I got mine at Walgreens. Wash your head twice a day with the Hibiclens then use salicylic acid. It really dried mine up quickly this last round.  I also took the Doxycycline but it wasn't nearly as bad this time. I've had such fatigue this time, I'm due for chemo #4 on Friday and I'm still tired all the time, makes me worry about what the next few weeks are going to be like.. I'm watching my grand baby now and I've been napping with her. She's awake now so I have to go, hope your scalp clears up soon. Let me know if you try the Hibiclens and if it works… good luck, talk to ya soon.

  • Ktjay
    Ktjay Member Posts: 64
    edited May 2014

    Thanks, I will definitely try that.  Sorry you are so fatigued, at least you are on #4, you are over half way through girl you can do it... Hopefully your fatigue will just stay the same as it is now.  Thanks for the advice.

  • aff
    aff Member Posts: 279
    edited May 2014

    Hi ladies,

    I was diagnosed in December. I had 4 rounds of AC every other week and then chose to have weekly treatments of Taxol for 12 weeks instead of every other week. While I had significant SE from AC, I had minimal SE from Taxol. I attribute that to the weekly treatments. I finished chemo on May 2. It was a happy day! I am scheduled for uni-MX with immediate DIEP on June 6. This will be followed by rads.

  • Ktjay
    Ktjay Member Posts: 64
    edited May 2014


    Aff, wow you had some tough chemo to go through.  I am glad you are done.  I wish you luck with your surgery and radiation. 

  • Ktjay
    Ktjay Member Posts: 64
    edited May 2014

    Hi Genny,

    Thinking of you, how is it going?  Thanks for the FYI on the folliculitis that really worked.  Had my third treatment and it is kicking my butt for some reason this time.  I was wondering how you were doing? 

  • maryland
    maryland Member Posts: 1,298
    edited May 2014

    Hi Ktjay, I have been doing some more research on these threads and was just thinking of you too. Great minds think alike I guess. I am doing ok, the 3rd chemo is the one that kicked my butt too. With the 1st 2 tx, I'd be tired for the first 10 days, then great, like my old self for the second 10 days. Then I got the 3rd and kept waiting to feel good and it just never happened. Then it came time for my 4th and I was still tired from the 3rd. The MO says it's normal. I got pretty down about it for awhile but now I'm learning that the secret is to pace yourself as much as possible. I figure out what is most important for each day and stick with trying to get that done. No working out, no running, just doing what I need to do and that's it. I am working 3 days/wk and have cut back to no more than 7/hrs a day. It sucks but it's just how it has to be I guess. My DH has been great, I take naps on my days off and I have never done such a thing so he realizes how tired I get. I'm now 9 days since my 4th tx and no folliculitis or nausea this time. Just this darned fatigue. My Mo put me on Effexor both to help with the depression and hot flashes and it does seem to be helping. I'm sleeping better with hot flashes waking me up only once or twice a night instead of all night long. I take a 0.5 mg Xanax before bed each night too. I'm still combing over info trying to sort out this lumpectomy vs BMX thing though I think I'm leaning toward the BMX. I just think in the long run I'd be more at piece in the years to come. I forget are you getting Taxotere and Cytoxan? Are you icing your fingers and toes? Any neuropathy? Hope you're having a great holiday weekend, what state are you in? Anyway... pace yourself, we'll be done eventually, and you'll really be done, your surgery is over. How is the healing going?

  • Ktjay
    Ktjay Member Posts: 64
    edited May 2014

    Hi Genny,

    So nice to hear from you, I do think of you and am glad you are hanging in there.  I cannot imagine how you ran that 5k after your third treatment, that just blows my mind.  You are amazing for sure.  This treatment is definitely emotionally and physically harder.  My tongue really hurt this time, I get thrush with each treatment.  My folliculitis so far is not too bad this time, but I am only 5 days out.  My taste buds were effected again this time, but that seems to be getting a little better.  I am starting with the bone pain, but just jabbing here and there.  The fatigue is just the worst though, I keep thinking I can do things, but when I do then I am knocked down for a day or 2 after.  I have to remember after the next one to not plan anything and just embrace my sofa.  I am having more of a difficult time than I thought I would with my appearance.  I did have the BMX and they put my implants right in (no expanders I am done with that) anyway, they also took 16 nodes so that side is different looking than my right.  It is just an adjustment and I was missing the old me this time.  However, I have to remember there will be a new me and can't wait to meet her... I do not have any neuropathy yet and no I do not use the ice; although I did ask them about that and they said I could if I wanted.  I am getting Cytoxan and Taxotere. I am glad you are researching what you want to do next.  You did not have lymph node involvement right?  That would be a tough decision.  I don't know why, but I just felt very adamant about what I wanted to do.  I am so afraid of cancer that I did not really want to have to worry whether I would get it again in my other breast.  However, I am sure I will still worry because it can reoccur no matter what you do.  I was just talking with my onc and he said my mom's cancer that came back after 14 years was not a reoccurrence it was a new cancer.  However, if she would not have had her breast to come back to she probably would not have had to deal with it.  However, I forgot to ask if that cancer would have showed up somewhere else.  I think you just have to do what your gut tells you.  How are you making out with your ovaries?  Didn't you have a problem there when all of this started?  Are you having them removed?  I am going through treatment with a lady who had a single mastectomy and now she wishes she would have had a BMX.  She was not given options or information and she is really upset that she was not.  She said she wishes she would have just had it done all at once.  Well good luck with your research, let me know what you decide.  My big decision these days is, my onc said he might only have me do 4 treatments versus 6, he is weighing the benefits of 4 versus 6 and the toll on my body.  What are your thoughts?

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