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tb2005
tb2005 Member Posts: 9
edited June 2014 in Just Diagnosed

Hi everyone, I am new to all of this and am really starting to understand how important having a place to ask questions and be able to talk to people who understand it. 

This is all so overwhelming and I feel like there is information being told to me left and right. I was diagnosed Monday with invasive ductal carcinoma. It is only in my left breast, but it is multifocal (3 tumors) all around the same size of 1.6 cm... the largest measurment was figured on ultrasound and it was a 1.9x1.4cm . My bone scan is clear and my CT shows no enlarged lymph nodes... wondering what all of this means. It seems good to me, but I am nervous the cancer is there and we just can't see it. Does anyone have any idea what my course of treatment will be like after a mastectomy? I'm trying to prepare myself so I will know what to expect. 

Due to there being 3 tumors the surgeon told me mastectomy is pretty much the only option. He gave me the choice of having the single mastectomy or a double. I'm feeling like maybe the double is the best thing to do? I just have no idea...  I'm only 31 and the dr.'s have told me I have greater chance of developing cancer the the other breast because every year my risk increases more because of what they have found already. Any advice at all would be greatly appreciated. 

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  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited March 2014

    I would ask for second opinion. I don't understand the risk increase per year....is it ductural or lobural? My understanding is doctors are trying less invasive surgeries instead of the aggressive manner. Personally I do not like doctors with aggressive treatment unless they gave me valid reasons

  • tb2005
    tb2005 Member Posts: 9
    edited March 2014

    I go in Friday to meet with another surgeon. it's ductal

  • farmerlucy
    farmerlucy Member Posts: 3,985
    edited March 2014

    Hi TB2005. So sorry you have to be here especially at your young age. It sound like you are getting excellent medical care so far. Your treatment plan will become more clear after surgery and further testing on the tumors. (Yeah, I really hate that word.) Take things step by step. You might want to join the Surgery Sisters for your surgery month. I found that to be very supportive. Also the

    Young with Breast Cancer

    thread towards the bottom of the topic list may be of particular interest to you. 

    I can only imagine what a shock this is to you and your family. If it gets to be too much please ask your doctors for meds to helps with the anxiety. We're here any time you need us. If I can help with anything please let me know. I mean that with all sincerity. Hang in there. Gentle hug,

  • msphil
    msphil Member Posts: 1,536
    edited March 2014

    Hi sweetie, second opinion is always a good idea, I had L mast, chemo and rads and 5 yrs on tamoxifen, (idc) and Praise GOD Iam a 20 yr Survivor) and just had L mast, everyone not the same.Hugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!! msphil

  • vbishop
    vbishop Member Posts: 616
    edited March 2014

    I was diagnosed with ILC, grade 2, stage1a in September.  Had bilateral mastectomy and reconstruction (tissue expanders - go big or go home is my motto) in October.  I had no desire to worry when I would get cancer in the other one.  Do not regret my decision at all.  Love my new girls - named them Thelma and Louise!!

    My thought - talk to your doctor, then go with your gut.


  • ziggypop
    ziggypop Member Posts: 1,071
    edited March 2014

    Hi TB, 

    Really sorry to hear of your diagnosis, but I'm glad you have found this site early on as it can really make everything easier. 

    I am going to tell you what my BS told me when I was first diagnosed - " Breast cancer that is confined to the breast can not kill you." Basically what this means is that the breasts don't do anything that is vital to your survival, so as long as the cancer doesn't 'move' to other parts of your body, you'll be 'okay' - treatments, yes, but the cancer won't kill you - it won't even really affect you at all other than needing to be prevented from spreading.. This means that the first line of 'attack' is to remove any cancer they can find in the breast. Get it out before it has a chance to spread. Usually if it does spread, the first place it goes is into your 'local' lymph nodes & they will likely do a biopsy of your lymph nodes during surgery and remove any that are cancerous. What happens during surgery will also likely determine the rest of your treatment. If you do have positive lymph nodes, then chemo becomes more likely (chemo attacks fast growing cells all over the body - but they only give it to people who reach a certain degree of risk that it has spread elsewhere in the body). Radiation is a possibility - that targets any cells that might have been left behind 'locally' after surgery. There are also hormone treatments depending on the type of cancer you have. The more info your docs get, the better they will be able to manage a treatment protocol. 

    As to whether you should have a BMX or not; I had a UMX and I still don't know if that was the 'right' decision - and nobody can tell you what the right decision is for you. Have you always dreamed of nursing a child? Will you worry every time you go for a mammogram? How important is nipple sensation to you sexually? These things are different for everybody. Keep asking people - sometimes you will hear things that you didn't think to consider that might make your decision easier. 

    Many hugs.  

  • kcat2013
    kcat2013 Member Posts: 391
    edited March 2014

    tb2005, I think ziggy gave some good questions to think about regarding UMX vs BMX.  I'm 34 so I decided to do both breasts and not just the one because I wanted to reduce my risk of cancer in the other breast--which reduces my worry-level :)  Also, I had a rough time with the MRI biopsies I had to do and I just didn't want to have to think about doing more of them in the future. 

  • tb2005
    tb2005 Member Posts: 9
    edited March 2014

    You are all so helpful! Thank you. What I'm gathering is it really is such an individual decision. I'm not quite sure why it is such a hard decision for me to make... I'm still totally going back and forth and I need to be making a decision. 

  • Cuetang
    Cuetang Member Posts: 575
    edited March 2014

    tb2005 -- it's difficult especially around our age (I'm 34) with some of these decisions.  Like Ziggy had pointed out already, for example, do you have kids already?  If you plan on having kids later-- is the desire to breastfeed something that is really important to you?  How attached are you to your breasts?  It's a hard decision for most of us to have to make and all this cancer stuff just sucks.  Have you had an opportunity to consult with a plastic surgeon?  It's completely reasonable to going back and forth with these decisions.  Also, have you had any genetic testing done (or is that standard at all in Australia)?  Any results from genetic testing could also tell you if you are predisposed to breast cancer and that could play into your final decision as well.

    In my case, I am a worrywart and I knew that the bilateral mastectomy was the way I wanted to go.  I wasn't strongly for or against breastfeeding and figured if I lost sensation in one side, the other side wouldn't matter as much.  Also, I chose the DIEP reconstruction (which could only be done once), so I might as well have strived for symmetry at the same time.

    Whatever you decide, there's no right or wrong.  Good luck!

  • oneday
    oneday Member Posts: 19
    edited March 2014

    I'm sorry to hear about your diagnosis td2005.

    The type of surgery you opt for is a very personal choice. It sounds like a lumpectomy is out of the question? I had multifocal tumors and ended up having a lumpectomy and 3 re-excisions. But it sounds as though you are more concerned with whether to have a single or double mastectomy?

    In that case, it's true that you may have a greater chance of developing breast cancer in both breasts due to your young age. It doesn't mean you will. If you have to take tamoxifen (if your tumor is estrogen positive you will probably take one tablet a day for 5 or 10 years) that can reduce the chances of developing a new cancer in the other breast. And of course, having a mastectomy doesn't guarantee that you will never have a local (in breast) recurrence or new breast cancer, there is a very small chance (like 1-3%) because they can never get all the breast cells. 

    If you opt for a mastectomy then you will probably not have to do radiation. For me radiation was daily for 30 days, and was very easy. And like the girls who have been through bilateral mastectomies have said, it does actually reduce their risk of another breast cancer and psychologically that is a big thing.

    Your oncologist will definitely recommend chemotherapy due to your young age and tumors. I 'only' did 4 cycles of TC chemo, which took 12 weeks from the first infusion to recovery from the last infusion. It's not pleasant, but as long as you avoid crowds (viruses and infections), most people do fine. 

    The chemotherapy does damage fertility, and I don't know whether you have children as yet, or planned to in the future, but if you plan on children, you will need to take measures to protect your fertility. It would be very rare to be pushed into early menopause at 31 years old, but women who do chemo will most likely go into menopause earlier than they normally would have, and following chemo your fertility will be lowered. Many women your age do have children after breast cancer, but you should know that your fertility will most likely be affected. 

    The fertility part is something women your age are not advised of during the early part of their treatment, and that is so unfair. I wasn't, and by the time I eventually got an appointment with my oncologist to talk about it, I was so annoyed that I just told them I was doing IVF. I ended up delaying chemotherapy by 6 weeks so I could do back to back IVF cycles and freeze embryos. But I was much older than you (40 yrs), already had a 5 year old and we were just about to start tying for our second child when I was diagnosed. You are much younger and will likely be able to do 5 years of hormonals and still conceive, but ask about zoladex injections which may help protect your ovaries from damage during chemotherapy. 

    If it's important to you, make sure they talk about your fertility options.

  • tb2005
    tb2005 Member Posts: 9
    edited March 2014

    Thank you all so much, I have decided to do a double mastectomy because I am hoping that I will not ever have to go through all this again. It has only been a week since I was told I had cancer and I feel like its been so much longer than that. I can't believe all of the decisions I'm having to make and the opinions of doctors for the most part have been the same, but it's just hard to make final decisions. I feel good about my choice though and I really appreciate all of your support and advice. My husband and I have 3 little boys so I feel so grateful that I was already able to nurse my babies. My heart goes out to all of you and I can now say I truly understand how hard this process it. Please keep the advice coming. What to expect after surgery for those who have had a double mastectomy and what to expect going into chemo. xoxo

  • Gypsy_Dr34m3r
    Gypsy_Dr34m3r Member Posts: 18
    edited March 2014

    Hi tb2005, so sorry you got dealt this blow :(

    I was fortunate that mastectomy was the 'be all and end all' of my treatment, although I'd flat out refused radiation treatment up front, so it was never going to be offered if I'd needed it or not.

    Now I don't regret choosing to have BMX, and if I had the chance to have a do-over, I would make the same choice, but I don't think going in to it I reallyknew what I was in for.
    Ziggy mentioned about nipple sensation, but that's not all, the nerve damage from the mastectomy leaves you with no feeling in the 'breast skin' for quite some time, and sometimes you never get all the feeling back. (so my Plastic surgeon informs me...I'm still at the no feeling stage, 3 months post op).
    That was a total shocker for me. I guess common sense should've told me that would happen, but honestly, I'd never had a mastectomy, didn't know anyone who'd had one and all I figured was the same skin sensation but with no nipples or areolae (spellcheck was pretty insistent the plural of areola was not areolas) 
    I think, besides the scars, it's the one thing that really got to me the most.

    I've actually been blogging about my BC journey, and I just did a post mastectomy update.
    I'm not the greatest blogger, but you might find some of what to expect after mastectomy.

    http://flyinthecoffeepot.wordpress.com/2014/03/22/post-mastectomy-3-months-on/

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2014

    I urge you to check here for information too: Young Survival Coalition.  They are organized by women with a depth of experience in the very different issue faced by women your age with breast cancer.  You will find more information that on a generalized bc website.  Good luck.

    http://www.youngsurvival.org/

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