More information, more decisions

lmdi
lmdi Member Posts: 15

Hi everyone,

You know how you have "up" days and "down" days with this thing? Today is kind of a down day for me.

I was diagnosed with DCIS after a diagnostic mammogram last month. The radiologist flagged three things, one in the left side and two in the right. The first biopsy on the left side was benign, but the biopsies Feb. 28 on the right side showed DCIS, stage 0. My BS then sent me for an MRI before a planned lumpectomy. Today I got the results: another suspicious finding in the left side (it may be a papilloma or it may be cancer) and the radiologist is recommending a biopsy of that one, too. I have very dense breasts, and my mother had breast cancer twice, once when she was 60 (MX) and again on the remaining side when she was 75 (lumpectomy with radiation).

I was hoping to be ok with just a lumpectomy, but now I'm seriously considering a prophylactic BMX. But is that too extreme? How do you decide?

I have been having irregular findings and biopsies since my first mammogram at age 35, and I'm 53 now. After my very first biopsy, I woke up from the anasthesia and the doctor said to me, "Don't worry, you look fine. I was sure we were going to find something, or at least something pre-cancerous, but no, everything looks great." These are the breasts that I'm dealing with.

On the other hand, I don't want to do major surgery if minor outpatient surgery would solve the current problem. It seems sometimes that  every answer that I get just leads to two or more new questions.  I know that ultimately it's my decision, but it's such a big one, and I'm really feeling overwhelmed today. Thanks for letting me vent.

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  • have2laugh
    have2laugh Member Posts: 132
    edited March 2014

    Lmdi-

       I can relate to your confusion. I also was diagnosed w DCIS nearly two months ago and still not sure what my ultimate treatment will be. I was leaning towards a bilateral mastectomy for several reasons. I also have strong family history-two sisters with invasive ductal carcinoma, one w/ Stage 1 at 45 and another w/ Stage 2 at 44. I was 43 when diagnosed. We are all BRCA negative so must be some other gene but makes it difficult to assess risks. The fact that I have a three year old and 21 year old daughter who will make me a grandmother to another little girl in May weighed heavily on me. I also had slow recovery from peripartum cardiomyopathy three years ago so left sided DCIS scares me a bit more. My husband also lost his mother to breast cancer at 43. The bottom line is I met with a surgeon, medical oncologist, and radiation oncologist and based on labs and pathology, the initial recommendation was I would be a good candidate for lumpectomy, radiation, and Tamoxifen (the last of which I am not thrilled about but will try). 

    I also considered whether bilateral mastectomy over treating after meeting with cancer group and honestly was a little afraid of longer surgery/ time off work. I am an RN though this is not my area of expertise so sometimes little knowledge can be more dangerous. With the support of my husband I made the decision to go ahead and try the lumpectomy. At preop visit discovered 'something" possibly in other breast and another MRI biopsy should be done before pursue breast conserving surgery. Quickly arranged biopsy-spent almost 2 hours but ultimately radiologist deferred the biopsy as not enhancing at that time. Quickly rearranged surgery for next day as sisters flew in to help with my little one. I had surgery on my birthday 3/5. Unfortunately, my surgeon was surprised with the result, 4 of 6 positive margins despite taking wider margins based on family history. DCIS now appears multifocal and more involved than MRI suggested. I opted for quadrantectomy 3/12 and expect to get pathology today or tomorrow.

    Bottom line- I have come full circle and realize the recommendation now is leaning more towards mastectomy. My first thought may have been right but it is, what it is. I still feel fortunate, all non-invasive so far. Some things are out of our control and you just have to make the best choice for you at that time. Lots of questions and the answers can change so try to be flexible.Will keep you in my thoughts.


  • SJW1
    SJW1 Member Posts: 244
    edited March 2014

    Lmdi,

    When I was diagnosed with DCIS in 2007, I chose to have a lumpectomy
    only. At that time I was told I was very low risk for a recurrence even
    without radiation.

    It may be helpful to remember that because DCIS is non-invasive it can't get out of the milk duct into your breast let alone the rest of your body. It will not kill you. Because of this you can take your time weighing all your options. 

    Maybe checking the website that I have co-authored with another DCIS sister, might also provide you with additional info to use in making your decision:

    http://dcisredefined.org/choices/surgery-type/

    Only you can know what type of surgery will give you peace of mind.
    Although a prophylactic BMX does sound extreme for stage 0, non-invasive
    breast cancer, you don't want to spend the rest of your life worrying.

    Wishing you all the best,

    :) Sandie


  • have2laugh
    have2laugh Member Posts: 132
    edited March 2014

    As stated by others, you ultimately have to make your decision based on what is best for you. You are not defined by a statistic, procedure, or diagnosis so it is a very personal decision. Protocols and recommendations can change. That does not necessarily take into consideration the worry, expense, time, impact on your life/family, and let's face it discomfort ( not sure about you but the breast MRI Core biopsy is not exactly a walk in the park!) involved in monitoring, diagnosing, and treating this condition. For some the impact of all of this may be more overwhelming than any surgery. I do not regret my decision to try breast conservation. I am sure others don't regret their choice to be more aggressive surgically for their own reasons. I hope you have a good support system that respects your decision either way. You have to walk in your own shoes. It sounds as though you have had many tests over a considerable number of years. That must really wear on you, of course you would be frustrated. I look at it this way, all of your doctors look at your info and results each step of the way. They take everything into account, including changes, and make a recommendation. That recommendation can also change. Give yourself the same opportunity (slack). You may change your mind one way or another. And that's ok. It is a lot to think about and you can take the time to weigh your options.  For me the time is a blessing and a curse. Can feel a little dragged out and allow one to vacillate. Not sure any of this helps but yes I do get it! Good luck and I will continue to think of you.

  • Rubiayat
    Rubiayat Member Posts: 144
    edited March 2014

    This is a huge decision and no wonder you feel overwhelmed. I think have2laugh gave you good advice. As invasive as each procedure is, it does give you more information with which to make an informed decision and you do have time to make that decision. I had three lumpectomies in hopes of saving my breast and now I will have a mastectomy next month. At this point I know I have done everything I could and I am more accepting of what is to come. Two months ago I was freaked out by the idea of a mastectomy - in my head I was locked into the path of lumpectomy and radiation. After all, it is only DCIS. Now I am feeling relieved not to have radiation and I think I will be less worried about a recurrence going forward. Give yourself time to let all these feeling move through you. 

    I found this thread and especially the post by Beesie very helpful when considering whether or not to have a mastectomy:

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/68/topic/806074?page=1

  • lmdi
    lmdi Member Posts: 15
    edited March 2014

    Thanks have2laugh, SJW1 and Rubiayat, I get what you are all saying, and I will try not to get ahead of myself here. I think my head is in a better place today than it was yesterday because I've had some time to think about it and to read through the web sites and threads that you recommend. I trust my BS, and she says the next step is an MRI-guided biopsy of the new site, so I will have that on Monday. 

    Have2laugh, I'm taking your advice and giving myself some slack, and the freedom to change my mind as new information becomes available. If this new thing is another DCIS or worse, at least I know they have caught it early when it is most treatable. I also believe that when dealing with something as complex as breast cancer, you surround yourself with good people (doctors, nurses, friends and family) and then you get out of the way and let them do their jobs. I know that I can't become an expert overnight in an area that other people have spent years or decades studying. Instead, I can give them all of the basic raw data that I possibly can, listen to their recommendations and then decide for myself what is best for me.

    Rubiayat, I think you are right about taking some time to make a decision and also to be psychologically comfortable with whatever that decision is. 

    You are all brave ladies, and I thank you for sharing your experiences and advice. Today's mantra is: One day at a time.

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