Starting Chemo in March 2014
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Nina....that's so funny! OMG...you had me laughing. It's actually not legal here yet technically in Illinois I think. At least i know there's some sort of hangup...I actually looked a while ago before all this started rolling...lol!
I am doing good but BP is starting to drop now. On the steroids (last day) and my BP is 92/60. Once the steroids wear off what I'm afraid of may happen...orthostatic hypotension again from any drug and I may start the tachycardia and fainting. I sure hope not. I'm on my 5th bottle of water already today and it's only 1:00. Also had two other liquids. I can take ANYTHING but that.
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Kris - so sorry to hear about you having to go to the hospital. How scary for your 17 year old. But yes, you should absolutely be proud for you guys getting through that.
WifeWBC - glad to hear your wife is feeling better. For me I found that I started feeling ok again by about day 8. Today I'm 11 days out from my infusion and I feel great.
I did get some bone pain last night, I had stopped taking Claritin two days ago. I really didn't expect to feel anything. Woke in the middle of the night with a sore back. I took Claritin this morning and now it seems to be fine again. Really unsure if this was due to Neulasta or just a coincidence. -
Hey Kiwilady! I'm sorry your back was giving you trouble :-( That's kind of what I'm thinking about the whole "bone pain" thing, though. I mean, sometimes my hips and my back hurt - that has nothing to do with Neulasta, it's just getting older, and that was there before I knew I had cancer. Now we pay attention to every little thing, and if someone tells us we can expect to have bone pain, every time our bones hurt, that's what we think it is.
Whatever it was, I'm glad the Claritin made it go away for you!
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So far minimal neuropathy with the Taxol. I do get some tingling but I give my hands a massage with lotion and it goes right away
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Hey. I had to get off my water pill cause my bp was low and my liver is so cranky. Don't let anything be a surprise. I hate the streroids. Had my hair buzzed off today.
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My onc said 8 days out from the Neulasta was pretty late to get aches. But I did. Heating pad was nice.
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Woke at 2am with the most severe abdominal pains I think I've ever had. Pretty sure it was a BM in the making (sorry!) but it never happened. But when I tell you I thought I was going to either puke or pass I out I am not exaggerating. The pains were gripping my body I couldn't walk upright, I was white as a ghost and sweating profusely. My husband was like, "have you been drinking water and taking your nausea meds!", we almost went to the hospital. It was horrible. My husband heated up my rice bag that I use everyday on at least some part of my body since all the surgeries and it calmed down my belly. I'm calling the doctor today, there's got to be something for ab pain that I'm not doing.
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Morning ladies, Xrayalli, so sorry to hear about your abd. pains. Hope your getting some relief now. That seems to have been my only side effect so far since my 1st chemo tx on Friday was constipation. I ended up drinking a bottle of Mag Citrate like they have you buy for bowel prep and boy did it work. I admit I did not ask my doc about it, I just drank it but it sure did resolve the problem.
I gave myself my Neulasta shot yesterday and I've been taking my Claritan and so far so good other than a slight tenderness at injection site.
So, Nina, was it you who made the gloves with the ice things in the fingers? Did you use them. I think I want to come up with something like that for my hands and feet before my next dose of Taxotere. I really would like to avoid the neuralgia, I do hair for a living tingly fingers and toes sound like they might get in my way. Anyone out there tried the cold pacs for hand and feet?
Well ladies hope you all have a good Sunday, and the nasty SE's stay at bay.
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lgoldie - I got taken off my water pill and beta blocker while I was in hospital for the same reason, low bp. They told me they couldn't give them to me because I was under 110 systolic. It's a good thing I picked up the mention, because otherwise I probably would have started them up again without much of a thought after I was discharged. Gonna check in with my primary tomorrow to see where to go from here.
genny - I did icing during my first Taxotere, and just used a couple of bags of generic frozen peas for my feet. Had a small plastic basin, put down a bag of peas, then my feet in toeless yoga socks, then another bag of peas, with a small towel over all. Worked very well. I really like Nina's idea for gloves. All I did was clutch quart-size ziploc bags of small ice cubes while wearing fingerless gloves. It worked, I guess, but wasn't all that great.
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Genny, I have road-tested the gloves and they work like a charm. Make sure you get large or extra-large gloves, as you'll need the room to wiggle the ice cubes into the fingers. And take your time with those ice cubes. They should be room temp, NOT frozen, when you put them in the fingers, because they're much easier to work with when they're not frozen.
When I put the gloves on, I slipped my fingers underneath the ice cubes and all was well. If my fingers got a little too cold, i just wiggled them out from under the ice for a moment but kept the glove on, then wiggled them back under the ice when I was ready. The first taxotere infusion was 3 hours long, so I didn't use it all the way through the infusion, but will definitely use it again during the next one.
Alli, I'm so sorry your stomach decided to go rogue on you! I hope you call your onco and let him know. Have you been sticking to a bland diet?
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Well, day 6 packed a wallop for me. My mom has come from Texas and she and my husband were able to keep my two-year-old occupied which was just incredibly great for me. She (toddler) has a cold now and any chance she got she would come and get in bed with me and cough in my face or sneeze on me and blow snot everywhere. Awesome.
Day 6 woes were mostly fatigue but also had a stomach issue like Xrayalli's last night. I get white faced and sweats and bad abdominal pain sometimes with GERD. Same deal last night. I took a prochlorozine and a Dexilant (for GERD) and it stopped about 20-30 minutes later. I hear you, girl, that hurts!
FWIW I had bone pain from about 24 hours after Neulestra shot until yesterday (day 6) I seemed to wake up fine and it would get worse as the day progressed. I think it is gone now? I hope anyway. Take care, friends.
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I just wanted to make a plug here for something someone recommended a few days ago. For those of us who are going to lose our hair....check out Patti's Pearls on You Tube. I watched a couple of them and she is awesome and so encouraging. I have already cut my hair short and am now waiting for the tingling, itchy scalp thing. I wanted to know the best advice on shaving and she has one called "The Shaving Experience." It was great and gave some little tidbits on the best way to shave our sensitive heads (she suggests leaving a little layer up there). Not only was it a great and informative You Tube video, but she also reads a little thing at the end that was pretty powerful. Just wanted you all to know....
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Sarahsarah-wow, I thought I was gonna die, seriously. You made me laugh with the awesome comment about your daughter, sorry, haha, I hope you don't get sick, though.
Nina- I definitely could be better in the diet department. I called the on call nurse and found out that Dulcolax was too strong, I reached for a Senecot but I was out, I wish I had never taken the stupid Dulcolax. Today I bought chicken boullioun, cheezits, powerade, tums and pepto cuz that's how I will roll today at least.
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I think the dulcolax makes you "have to go" but since you are probably constipated, you can't. So the pain is just pushing and pushing away inside. I took Colace 100 mgs, 3 times a day for 2 days and it worked well to relieve me.
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xrayalli, so sorry you had to go through that! I hope it was a one-time thing for you!!
sarahsarah, sounds like you had the same thing! Were any of those things you took for it over-the-counter, just in case? I never heard of any of those drugs, sound prescription?
I'm having a little stomach pings myself today for the first time, (3 days out) but nothing major. I think prune juice may be on the menu for me. My biggest discomfort so far is fatigue starting (first day off steroids) and also I get really sharp burning pains around my incisions close to my armpits. Like a hot poker. Never had this in the 6 weeks following surgery. Very sensitive to touch, too, when these stabbing pains start. Maybe from steroids or claritin? Anyone else have this? -
thanks jmg58. Good to know. I will let you know how it turns out.
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jmg58, weird that you say that about the pains around your incision. I get them too and it's been 7 weeks since my surgery. Hot pokers and little knives. I was attributing them to going back to work and using my arm a lot and not being used to it yet. My PT said that maybe my bra was too constricting so I switch to a different bra and it seems to be better.
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I want to thank everyone for the warm welcome, support and advice. You all are the so very nice.
WifeWBC. We are both in our early 60's. You and your wife sure have a full plate. Four children under 12. Wow.
Mitzro. Could you tell your husband that he would benefit others by posting here. I am a veteran of some other types of support boards and I have noticed that no matter how long you are on a board you learn things from both the oldies AND the newbies.
NinaW. Remember that all those people that are 20 years older than you grew up in the 60's and 70's. I am sure many of them had some experience with pot. ( Of course I am just guessing about that. ) : )
Txplanner. So you are a dosimetrist who can not only plan the Rad treatment but might be able to get us a nice tax refund. : )
Xrayyalli. Do you use the bed buddy rice bag? My wife has 3 of those, 2 homemade corn bags and 3 different heating pads. She has so many types of cold packs that there is hardly room in the freezer for food. She can thank a rare and nasty form of arthritis for that collection.
She is getting her port put in tomorrow morning and then her first treatment, so things are a bit tense and edgy at this old man's house. I am keeping a positive attitude about all this. Of course she is very worried. I just keep telling her that so many people have been through this so she can handle what is going to happen next just as others have handled all of it. I have relayed the advice that you all have given and she has found comfort in the things that I have told her.
Thanks again to everyone.
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How are you doing in general? Are you complete with the chemo? I could use a buddy or a mentor. Leah
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My head is killing me. Day 6. It just occurred to me that it might be my hair. Sound reasonable?
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((Alli)), ugh I am sooo sorry. Are you taking SennekotS with the stool softner. Sometimes I just didn't have the energy to sit on the toilet!! I hope relief comes soon!
Welcome to all the new comers!! You have found a TREMNDOUS group of ladies with the most courage and strength I have ever been around!
jmg58, One down!! woo hoo!! Glad it wasn't to bad! How are you doing today?
WifeWBC (()) I am so sorry she is having such a rough time. I admire you for reaching out and supporting her!
Go genny, GO!! bummer about the IV pain:(
((Kris)) you are strong. You can do this!! We can all do this together.
Alright, Kat!! I hope it stays that way through out treatment!!
Sarah, I hope it is easier the next go around (()).
I am so glad that you ladies are doing so well with all things considered:) I went to see my MO on Friday. Just to touch base and get a confirmed schedule. I am a little concerned because they will not be giving me the neulasta shot. I will have to go in weekly for lab work to make sure everything is ok. I told her my only fear was that I would get dehydrated and she said for any reason I feel that I am I can come in and get some IV fluids. She asked about baby. She said that if we want, depending on how things go I can get fourth round of taxol/carbo if I want to that way the baby won't have to come so early. NOw just to way options of baby coming 2 weeks early or chance a 4th round of chemo but to make sure I am well enough to deliver!
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Lgoldie-how are you? Are you going through treatment? I think everyone here is currently doing chemo...
Heroldman-interesting comment about the rice bag, I have lupus which pains me with arthritis and migraines, both of which I use the rice bag for, I have one fave
So I have been dealing with a great amount of abdominal pain, had that horrid episode last night, I've been eating very bland today. I did not take any Senecot today, I was pretty well all set in that regard. Tomorrow I'll start with the daily Senecot in the hopes of staying with some sort of schedule. The belly pain is pretty constant, I wonder if this is how it's gonna be the whole time I'm on Taxol.
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Mom2B, love your chipper spirit! I'm honestly curious to see from your lab work whether or not you end up needing the Neulasta after every chemo. I seriously can't believe you have to do this while you're pregnant. You're amazing to me - the fact that you can come on here and smile and cheer everyone on the way you do is just beyond magnificent.
Heroldman, hey, I grew up in the 70s, so I was thinking more about the patients who were teens in the 50s, lol. In any event, I got a kick out of the nurse basically giving me permission to score some weed, even though I'd have no idea where to do that at this point in my life. It's been a while :-)
Sarahsarah, when you say your head is killing you, is it a headache, or does your scalp actually hurt? I'm sure it's different for everyone, but my understanding is that your scalp gets itchy and starts to ache right before the hair quits.
Alli, try keeping it super bland for a few days to see how it goes. And the Senekot causes peristalsis, so if you're constipated it should definitely help out there (colace is just a softener, but it doesn't make your bowels move). Maybe the pains in your stomach are trapped gas? Whatever it is, I hope it eases up on you quickly. My doctor said that plain carbs are your best friend, so if you've got Saltines, break those bad boys out and have some!
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My daughter is 16 and her first reaction to hearing about my cancer and upcoming chemo was to be concerned about my hair, and my son who is in his 2nd year of college had a different reaction: "Does that mean you get to take medical marijuana?" It's kind of funny actually how each of them has reacted with their own perspectives. My husband asked "How worried should I be?" and confessed he doesn't know what questions to ask.
This started with a mammo on 3/4, a callback for ultrasound on 3/6 and a core needle biopsy the same day of a solid mass, followed by the official diagnosis of breast cancer on 3/10, surgeon consult that same day, another mass found in my armpit, and a needle aspiration confirming more cancer on 3/13. Off to radiology for PET/CT this Tuesday, 3/18. Consult with med oncologist the very next day to lay it all out for us. Every brutal but necessary detail. Having a port placed the next day, then commencing chemo. From mammo to chemo in less than 3 weeks. Amazing.
How is this happening so fast? Because I work in the lowest level of the building in radiation oncology and everybody's working me in. I've been a health professional involved in treating cancer for 26 years, first as a radiation therapist and then as a medical dosimetrist from 2008 on. And Xrayalli, I used to do mammography back in the mid-1980's, just as the first dedicated mammo units were being rolled out. There were still film-based back then, with dedicated dark rooms that had very strict QA. My interest in the cancer field as a career came from curiosity about breast cancer. I was wondering what happened to those women once we found cancer on their mammos, and I wanted to do more. So then I enrolled in a radiation therapy school because I wanted to treat cancer, not just diagnose it. The rest is history, except that now life is going to let me experience the patient perspective first hand. I know what I'm in for when it gets to the radiation part, at least. (And I'm happy to help answer any questions anyone has who's going through that.) But first, there's the dose-dense chemo regimen, first one this Friday.
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after a week long delay, I am back on track to start TAC chemo tomorrow. The delay was based on a low number found on an echocardiogram. I saw the cardiologist about a low ejection fraction number they had concerns about. It turns out, it's a good number due to all my years as a fit and athletic individual. BUT, it' a bad number for chemo. They put me on another drug to boost the strength of my heartbeat so I'll, hopefully, not suffer any deleterious effects to my heart.
I signed up for a study about preventing bone pain. It involves 3 groups-1 taking Claritin, 1 with an ibuprofen-like pill and 1 with nothing. All taken beginning on the day of chemo for 5 days. I'll let you know how it goes.
I'm most afraid of the nausea. I've always had a weak stomach, including 9 month of morning sickness. Twice.
Made facing hair loss fun with my kids (8 & 10 yrs old) this weekend. We made 2 long braids and they each cut one off for locks for love. THEN, we pulled out electric blue, crimson red, and shocking purple and I let the kids decorate my hair any way they wanted. They each also got a streak of color ( because there was no way they were going to shave their heads in solidarity with me!). I'll post pics, if I can figure out how....
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Good morning, cancerjourney, how ironic about your heart....here we think we do all the right things! This new normal is so crazy. I love what you did with your kids. My hair is sort of short to begin with...I wonder if my kids would be as interested in helping me. Right now my teenage daughter is really struggling, somehow I don't think she would think it was fun....
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I decided to involve the kids because my 10 yr old's biggest fear was the hair loss. Her hair is really long and a source of pride for her. I wanted to somehow show her that I didn't mind having my hair change dramatically and that we could have fun doing it. She cried when she cut her half of the ponytail off, but we talked it out. Once I put the hair dyes in her hand, she had fun with it. She's now sporting a pink streak and wants me to come show off my hair at school. The kids have so little they can control in this. I wanted to give them one thing they could control. it was a fun night!
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I began this journey… (and i am beginning to see it as a journey) just about 5 weeks ago when while blow drying my hair I noticed a slight dimpling on my left breast. Didn't think a whole lot about it, kinda looked like cellulite, but not quite, so I called my PCP and she got me in 2 days later on a Friday, then waiting till Monday for the mammo and ultrasound, very next day to the surgeon, day after that a biopsy, and on Valentine's day my dx. Invasive lobular carcinoma with at least 2 lymph nodes involved, 3 days later my metastatic work-up. See, my husband and I were getting ready for a long ago planned trip to Key West for 1 week and they wanted me to have as much info as I could before we left. I am grateful at the way they hurried it along because truly I think that is the worse part. Anyway, after vacation I had to go right in for a second scan of my ovary for what they thought was a cyst, which it was, thank goodness. Then to the oncologist and last Friday my first go-round with Cytoxan and Taxotere, and of course Saturday the Neulasta. Saturday was great, got up and took my dogs for a 1 hour walk in the woods. Yesterday, went to a yoga class and then out to dinner with my hubby for our 12th anniversary. Then I woke up at 1am feeling just …blah.., minor stomach cramping, nothing to speak of really, took a couple of Tylenol and went back to bed. I arranged to have the day off of work because I wasn't sure how this first week after chemo would be. I am up and about now, and feeling ok, but it's like it's just hitting me. The fear, the uncertainty, all of it, just hit me this morning! I'm not sure what to do with it just yet, I truly haven't sat and cried since this whole mess began, maybe that's what I need. Anyway these boards are great for venting, and that's just what I felt like doing, so thanks all for listening. I'm just feeling sappy today.
And may I just say, I applaud the courage of all of you with kids at home having to face this. I am 56, my son is grown and I have a new 2 month old granddaughter that I can't wait to watch grow up. But having to deal with this while still being strong and brave for your children has got to put a huge weight on your backs. I wish you all the best and am thinking of the days when you'll all be watching your grandkids grow up.
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Happy Monday to you all!
Well Txplanner we have a lot in common. I have a 16 year old daughter and a son that is also a sophomore in college in Chicago. My 16 year old is pretty quiet about the whole thing, but was with me and my husband at my surgeon's office when I was told the cancer had been found in my lymph nodes. She saw her mom pretty much crumble and break down at the news. I felt so bad that she was there. I actually took her with me because I thought he was just going to do a pre-op exam following my lumpectomy and send me on my way. He actually had to break the news to me about the nodes and tell me that now chemo was in my future. We all cried together, but although I was sad she had to experience this, I now feel it was good for her to be brought in early. She is still pretty stoic and assures me she is good and that her friends are helping her get through this. It has been hard for my 20 year old being so far away. He comes home on Wednesday for Spring Break and I can't wait to see him!
Cancerjourney, I love your hair story. You sound like you made something hard, very fun for your kids. Way to go! We are all on hair watch here as I come up on day 14 after chemo. I haven't even started the scalp itch phase, but I have cut my hair very short and am just waiting...
Round #2 of chemo is tomorrow. I am hoping this one goes as well as the last one, but I keep hearing it is probably going to be worse.
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Txplanner, one more thing, I am happy to ask for advice and understanding of the whole radiation process when I approach that phase. It also scares me. So THANK YOU!
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