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  • NinaW
    NinaW Member Posts: 110
    edited March 2014

    Hi Mitzro!

    Yep, the nurse said 7 - 10 days is typical, although obviously it can happen sooner or later depending on how healthy your white blood cell count was before treatment began. If you were slightly low to begin with, maybe you see the effects sooner. But regardless, she said treating the symptoms beforehand didn't make a whole lot of sense given that you're already taking so much medication and that you're asking your liver to process a whole lot of toxins during treatment. I think your best course of action is to check with your nurse and treat symptoms as they arise. While prophylactic treatment is nice in theory, in reality, it might just mean that you're giving your liver more work than it really needs to do!

  • heroldman
    heroldman Member Posts: 22
    edited March 2014

    Hello to all. I am a husband posting about my wife who starts chemo Monday the 17th. She sees enough computers at work so I will be posting for her. I have supported her through 12 operations. Some major, some semi-major. (there are really no minor surgeries.)  She will be having AC every 2 weeks, 4 treatments. Than Rad 5 weeks. Then taxol  same schedule as the AC. This is scary stuff and the not knowing what to expect is so hard for both of us. Before her other medical procedures I always tried to have a positive out look. I also know enough to expect the unexpected. This place is a blessing because there are so many stories to read and it helps to "see" what others have experienced. The little tips about how to handle the discomforts are so very valuable. Thanks to everyone who has already posted their experiences and thanks in advance to all who offer advice and tips to my wife and any others who may be reading this site. 

  • NinaW
    NinaW Member Posts: 110
    edited March 2014

    Okay, first of all, "heroldman" is only the best screen name of all time. Welcome to you! Not only does the March 2014 chemo thread have all the best women, we're also clearly collecting all the best men :-)

    I think the best course of action to take here is to prepare for the worst, but hope for the best. Lots of women don't get anywhere NEAR the full menu of side effects, and most of us seem to get side effects that change from treatment to treatment. About the only thing everyone seems to comment on is some kind of stomach discomfort.

    You're wonderful to have supported your wife through so many different operations. I'm sure it's not easy to be the caretaker; I hope you have a place to go where you can unload that strain without worrying about upsetting her, because you deserve support too, you know? In the meantime, we're here, and happy to welcome you into our midst.

  • heroldman
    heroldman Member Posts: 22
    edited March 2014

    Thanks Nina. I am glad you liked the name. The screen name was around my fifth or sixth try. I am sure the best people are here and I will try to live up to the standards set by the women and men who have come through here before I arrived.

    A few years ago my wife had a knee replaced and had so many reactions and side effects I thought she was going to win some sort of disaster prize. These were nobody's fault, just stuff that sometimes happens. It all just sort of took on the snowball down hill effect! That experience has made me very nervous. The stomach stuff is a worry since she has had stomach problems for years. Her Dr. has prescribed 2 types of meds for the stomach.

    She will be getting the neulasta shot 24 hrs after the treatment. I hope she avoids the body pain as she is already suffering with many hurting body parts. Does anyone know if these meds hurt more in places that are already hurting? I have had 2 back operations and the 2 times I have had the flu with body aches, the pain intensity in the surgical area was very bad. I suppose I will have a definite answer to that question and more in the next few weeks.

     I do not have much outside support. No nearby family and I hate to rely on friends too much. They have lives of their own. The best support prospect friend I have is having to deal with more bad stuff than I am right now I am able to access much support from family via cell. I will check out a local group concerning this issue if I feel the need. I can see that there will always be much help and support here at this forum.


  • Xrayalli
    Xrayalli Member Posts: 237
    edited March 2014

    I second Nina in that it's awesome to have 2 husbands join our March Chemo Club for your ladies. We have all different stories, we'll all have different treatments and side effects but we will all help each other if only to comfort and vent. Nina's our club cheerleader, lol! There's a lot of under age 45 ladies here and a couple of 2nd time BC fighters so we have a great group. We also have some medical professionals. Anyway, I'm off to register little man for baseball, take care!

  • jmg58
    jmg58 Member Posts: 185
    edited March 2014

    heroldman, I do not have a big support system either...so stay here and
    let us help you for sure. The ladies here have been awesome to me and
    given me a lot of help, support and tips. I hope this will be a nice
    place of solace and companionship for you through this. The same to WifeWBC...welcome!  Your wives are lucky to have such caring husbands.

    If it helps even a little, I had my neulasta shot today, at 8:00 a.m, actually in my arm.  No sickness yet and I was the most terrified one on here. I have a little shooting pain at both of my incisions by my underarms this afternoon, but nothing earth-shattering.  I will take a Claritin today just to see what happens and what it feels like because my white blood cell count was a little low to start with, but 36 hours later, the only thing I feel is fatigued.  If the other shoe drops, I'll let you know...but keep the faith...as anyone here will tell you, I was hysterical for a week before my chemo yesterday, convinced of the worse, since that is also my own experience in the past, but so far so good.  I will probably feel worse in the next two-five days, but so far it's been nothing I couldn't handle.

  • Summerwheat
    Summerwheat Member Posts: 86
    edited March 2014

    Hi Nina, interesting regarding the bone pain - mine came with a vengeance (even after Claritin) within 48 hours of the Neulasta shot and lasted about 3 days - worst side effect I had, in addition to the fatigue and the steroid acne ... everyone is different - I wish you all who had their first session this week an enjoyable and SE-free weekend.

    Alexandra

  • jbdayton
    jbdayton Member Posts: 700
    edited March 2014

    My experience with the Neulasta injection.  I took the Claritin beginning the day of the injection and continued for 6 days.  Day 3 the bone pain started and increased to pretty severe through days 4 and 5.  My onc decicided for round two that I should start the Claritin the day before chemo and continue for about 10 days. A world of difference for the rest of my treatments.  It really reduced the pain levels to livable.  The pain levels are related to how hard the marrow is working to get the WBC up and each person reacts differently.  I was glad he adjusted the Claritin dosage schedule.  He worked on some of the original trials and was convinced he could make the Claritin work for about 95% of his patients.  Good luck to yourselves and wives as noted.

    I will be available for a while, just got home from stage 1 DIEP reconstruction. Will be living in my lounge chair for the next 2 weeks for sure.

  • alycallie
    alycallie Member Posts: 32
    edited March 2014

    Hello everyone. This is my first post. I Had my first of 12 taxol treatments on March 3, 2014. Total mastectomy and lymph node removal was on February 7,2014. Side effects have been minimal so far and no changes in hair.... yet. I've read that by day 14 I should start losing some. So far, I only have an itchy scalp. Thank you to everyone for posting. I've enjoyed reading and learning.

  • maryland
    maryland Member Posts: 1,298
    edited March 2014

    Hi all, I just had my first ride on the chemo train today. For me so far it was a piece of cake. I'm always really good about IV'S, (I don't have a port.) So anyway, she tried on left arm, no go, then she went for the right anticube and got it in. Well it hurt an I couldn't move my arm and she brought me a hot pack and 10 min later, sell hurting. so my husband called her in and asked her to move it. So she brought another nurse in, and she put it in my hand and no problem! Couldn't feel it at all. From now on they will use my wrist or hand. After that everything was great! No nausea, a little tired from the ativan but thats it. I took the Claritin yesterday & today and I get Neulasta tomorrow so we'll see how that goes. I'm off from work till next Thursday and only that one day, hoping by the following week I can work no problem.

    jbdayton thanks for the tip, I think I will take the Claritin for the full 10 days.

    heraldman, welcome to the site, I'm so sorry for what you and your wife are going through. I hope you find the support you need on these boards, all the different threads have things to offer as you go thru each phase of this nasty illness. i wish you and you wife the best.

  • Mitzro
    Mitzro Member Posts: 48
    edited March 2014

    Good thought process.  Thanks for the insight Nina!  I definitely don't want to make my liver work any harder than it needs to.   And I should probably let you know my name is Michele....but Mitzro works fine too :))

  • Mitzro
    Mitzro Member Posts: 48
    edited March 2014

    Welcome Allycallie!  Yes, this has been so helpful for me too.  I started chemo on March 4th, but I am doing 4 AC treatments every other week and then I go for the 12 Taxol treatments. Those will be weekly I believe. I don't even have an itchy scalp yet, but I cut my hair really short yesterday to prepare for the inevitable.  Nice to have you here. :))

  • Mitzro
    Mitzro Member Posts: 48
    edited March 2014

    Welcome to you heroldman!  I am also here to support you.  Wish my husband would get on something like this.  I know he is so concerned, but is not one who likes to share or talk about feelings too much.   Glad you feel comfortable to do so.  I will offer any help or just a listening ear.  I really don't have anything to add on the question you put forth here.  So far the one AC dose I got didn't wreak too much havoc with my stomach, but I was good about taking my anti nausea meds on schedule.  I am at day 10 today and have not any anti nausea meds for about 4 days so I am happy about that.  I am tired, but have so much going on in my life right now I am not sure if it is from the chemotherapy or just LIFE.  Take good care of your wife and hug yourself now and then too :)

  • Jenwith4kids
    Jenwith4kids Member Posts: 635
    edited March 2014

    hello new friends!  I just scheduled my first infusion for next week, five weeks out from my BMX.  Chemo training on Tuesday, port placement on Wednesday, first AC treatment on Thursday.  I had a TE fill today, my last one now until chemo is over (I will miss my PS, absolutely love him!!)

    Never in a million years did I think I'd have to see "chemo" on my calendar.  :(

    My treatment plan is 4 A/Cs every two weeks then 12 weekly taxols (different that my first opinion which was dose dense .. 4 and 4 in 16 weeks, I like the second doctor and facility better than the first, the treatment plan didn't matter too much to me).  Then rads.

    I also have a hair appointment next week .... Gonna go pretty short and bring my wig for a haircut and color.

    I have been lurking on this forum...not wanting to know too much about everyone's side effects, hoping to not scare myself or make my mind play tricks and just wanting to make my own story.... But I love the support that can be found here.  I'm sure I will relax after the first treatment. I know that surgery was WAY less scary than I had anticipated. Hoping the same for chemo.

    Have a great night!

  • WifeWBC
    WifeWBC Member Posts: 53
    edited March 2014

    I wonder why they don't include age in the treatment / DX signatures on this site.  When you see a person with similar DX, it'd be nice to know their age so that you can compare like for like.  I realize no two DX are the same, but you can draw conclusions if someone has identical DX and age.

    Wife started getting back pain this evening.  She's taken Claritin, but feel this might need to be taken at injection time, in all honesty.  Anyone? 

    Took our 2 daughters to their birthday party with their friends.  Wife has been up tight about their party night being a big fail, but my girls had a blast.  Nanny has taken our 2 boys for the long weekend, so should be nice relaxing time with just our 2 girls. Hoping for low stress, low pain weekend for wife.  

    Told her I think this would be a good group for her, but she seems reluctant. Even scared to hear others pain.

  • TxPlanner
    TxPlanner Member Posts: 29
    edited March 2014

    Hi WifeWBC and all,

    Just joined this tonight, and this is my first post. I'm meeting with the med oncologist Wednesday, after a PET/CT plus CT of my chest abd/pelvis on Tuesday. If the Tuesday radiology stuff is okay, then I'm probably similarly staged/diagnosed as your wife (WifeWBC), with a 2cm right breast tumor and a positive axillary lymph node. I am ER+ (95%) and PR+ (5%), and HER/2-., the cells are moderately differentiated. That's about all I know so far. It's been a whirlwind these past 10 days, from mammo to ultrasound to core needle biopsy to fine needle aspiration under my armpit..  And now about to get rolling with chemo, some heavy hitters that are given in a "dose dense" regimen followed by 12 wks of taxol. All this lingo is new to me. The surgery will follow the chemo, and will likely be a lumpectomy and axillary node dissection, followed by radiation therapy (that I DO know about). After that, it's some estrogen receptor modulator thing, for several years. Obviously I'll know a lot more after I meet with the med oncologist. 

    I'm checking out this site because I want "previews of coming attractions" so to speak, but also a sense of community in dealing with this. I'm 49 with 2 teenage kids. This is scary stuff, and I didn't think anything could be scarier than riding shotgun while my kids were learning to drive! (youngest is still in the midst of learning, actually) 

  • Mitzro
    Mitzro Member Posts: 48
    edited March 2014

    WifeWBC.....If it helps, I am 51 years old.  But feel like I am 40!!  O.K. maybe not now...but usually :))

  • TxPlanner
    TxPlanner Member Posts: 29
    edited March 2014

    I used to do mammography but then went into radiation oncology field, and am now a dosimetrist. That's why I go by "TxPlanner" (for treatment planner), but I'm realizing now it looks like I do taxes for a living! Anyway, I'm glad there are healthcare professionals in here too. Hope you're doing relatively okay with your first chemo.

  • Nurselaura
    Nurselaura Member Posts: 68
    edited March 2014

    I am getting a wig free from ACA, they use volunteer salons in your area. I am going next week. Will let you know how it goes. Probably hit or miss, but they are all new wigs.

  • TxPlanner
    TxPlanner Member Posts: 29
    edited March 2014

    Hi Nurselaura, 

    Possibly a stupid question (won't be my last) but what is ACA? Thanks

  • WifeWBC
    WifeWBC Member Posts: 53
    edited March 2014

    Saturday morning and wife is back to her normal self.  I can tell because she told me to not to face her with my morning breath, and she also wants to go shopping.  Great!  She went to sleep last night with back pain and massive headache.  We tried the Claritin, and today she is right as rain, laughing and in great spirits.  Hoping this is sign of a better 2 weeks ahead.  Hope you all have more days like this. 

    FYI - My wife turned 40 Jan 13 2014 - some 40th birthday.  I think I can spare the walk around the mall on her good day.  :)

  • Kris103
    Kris103 Member Posts: 57
    edited March 2014

    Hi, folks - it'll take me a bit to catch up on the posts, welcome new people and all. I've been away for a bit since I spent a few days in hospital getting over an infection. I developed thrush about Day 4, got the Nystatin for that but by Day 5 had a nasty fever (all this on top of bone pain for which I'd gotten the OK to take some of the surgical pain meds I didn't need from port surgery). By the time I got to hospital, my white count and potassium were trash, among other things. So, the port got a workout for a few days while they pumped antibiotics in me 'til I finally got rid of the fever.

    Very scary experience not only for me, but for my 17yo, who had to be on her own while I was gone. We didn't know how long that would be day-to-day. We had to figure out stuff like grocery home delivery services (I'd already had to figure out home delivery pharmacy for the Nystatin) so that she had food and necessary sundries. The whole thing has left me sort of emotionally as well as physically shaky, but my kid and I have both come through. I'm kinda proud of both of us. We're both stronger than either of us had expected.

  • Mitzro
    Mitzro Member Posts: 48
    edited March 2014

    So glad you are O.K. Kris.  I can imagine how frightening that must have been for your teen.  Yes, I have found through this whole experience that we women are so much stronger and resilient than we realize.  I guess that's one good thing to come out of all of this.  Welcome back!

  • KAT4856
    KAT4856 Member Posts: 67
    edited March 2014

    Hi Megomendy,

    I completed 4  AC DD treatments and have completed 3 Taxol treatments so I wanted to let you know that yes the Taxol is easier. I have felt some aches from the Neulasta which I did not feel from the AC treatments but my energy level and appetite is definitely better. The aches only require advil and it's mostly at night.

  • Nurselaura
    Nurselaura Member Posts: 68
    edited March 2014

    TxPlanner the ACA is American Cancer Association.   

  • jmg58
    jmg58 Member Posts: 185
    edited March 2014

    Nurselaura, I also got my free wig from the ACA....it is quite like my own hairstyle and for being free, I like it very much.  Just got my hair buzzed yesterday so may start wearing it soon.  Good luck finding one...there were a couple I had to choose from that fit what I wanted. 

  • Mitzro
    Mitzro Member Posts: 48
    edited March 2014

    This gives me hope.  How about the Neuropathy?

  • Xrayalli
    Xrayalli Member Posts: 237
    edited March 2014

    Tx Planner- how long ago did you do mammography?  I find it too ironic to be a (lead) mmammographer and have breast cancer.

    WifeWBC- glad to hear your wife is feeling better, we are close in diagnosis and I am 42. 

    Kris-scary stuff, happy for you to be home and you and your daughter fairing well now. 

  • NinaW
    NinaW Member Posts: 110
    edited March 2014

    Hope all you Marchers are having good Saturdays, and that if you were struggling with side effects, they're easing up on you. 

    With regard to the Neulasta shot and the timing of Claritin, I'm honestly not sure what to think. The chemo nurse told me that I could expect any bone pain to manifest itself several days out from the shot at the earliest, and said the average was 7 -10 days. It seems from what I'm reading here that some of us are feeling the effects far earlier than that. I haven't noticed any extreme discomfort aside from what I think are usual body aches/pains, and I'm currently three days out from chemo and two days out from the Neulasta. Yet more proof that this stuff is so individual, and that every experience is different!

    Another chemo nurse also made sure to mention to me that I should feel free to toke away if I could get my hands on some pot. That made me giggle - I think she may have shared that because I was easily about twenty years younger than most of the other people in the room :-) Trying to picture myself hanging around outside the high school, looking to score a dime bag. 

  • lgoldie
    lgoldie Member Posts: 120
    edited March 2014

    so let me know how you are?

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