DIEP 2014

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  • Jeannie57
    Jeannie57 Member Posts: 2,144
    edited March 2014

    jb, it really is a wild ride, isn't it? I hope leftie does make it and you don't have to wait too long for rightie. You have wonderful support here. Rant, rave, whatever you need to express is A-OK.

    Melissa, welcome home! I hope everything goes smoothly as you patiently recover.

    Zenful, sorry about the cording. Hope you find just the right person. I didn't have it but my PT worked on that for others. She was supposed to be an LE specialist, too, but FAIL, she wasn't.

    Beautiful day here! Sorry about the winter weather for some of you. 

  • annajo
    annajo Member Posts: 84
    edited March 2014
  • brendarj
    brendarj Member Posts: 72
    edited March 2014

    jb -  glad to hear the good news about lefty hoping righty won't be far behind


  • SouthernGirl1974
    SouthernGirl1974 Member Posts: 86
    edited March 2014

    Zenful I am so glad you posted that I have the same and was wondering what the heck was the line running down vertically from my breast now you mentioned cording and that makes sense will check with my dr about this.

    Also got my right breast stitched closed on yesterday plastic surgeon said he would have let it heeled on its own however I need to get to rads. Take care sisters

  • brendarj
    brendarj Member Posts: 72
    edited March 2014

    LoopySo here I go again but I' m pretty sure that I live in a town where everyone should be checked at least once a year to make sure their brain and tongue are connected. Ran into an former workmate and after the hi how are you stuff was done told me her  husbands aunt had just been diagnosed with a tumor around her heart.  After telling her  how sorry I was for the lady and her family she then told how LUCKY I was that I ONLY had breast cancer.Took a minute to recover looked her straight in the eye and said I didn't feel very damned lucky and walked away. But  remembering all your supportive comments last week I did walk away with a smile

  • TBerg
    TBerg Member Posts: 27
    edited March 2014

    Speaking of rants, today I got in the mail another letter from Advanced Radiiology telling me I am late to schedule my mamogram. They were involved in my (eventual) diagnosis, and mastectomies. The first time I got oneof these after my mastectomies, my DH called them and told them to take me off their list..(I  had gotten upset, which made him mad) so he called.The next time one came, he called again. I think at this point that I have gotten 6 notices from them. Evidently there is no way to get off the reminder list....even if you have no breasts left too mamogram....

     Thanks, as always, for listening....

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited March 2014

    Jbdayton, yeah for leftie. They can make you a rightie that will match. Good to hear you are up in the chair. 

    Zenful, my neighbor had cording. A few physical therapy sessions and she was good. No lymphedema. 

    Tberg, I got my reminder too. It was a bit disheartening. 

    Brendarj, good for you. I hope you told her to eat your dust as you walked away.


  • Teacher64
    Teacher64 Member Posts: 840
    edited March 2014

    Tberg, I'm getting my BS involved to stop the letters. I know it is computerized, but you'd think after the dr said, "You have cancer. Do you have any questions?" He might take a second to tell someone to take that name off the list. 

  • Sunone
    Sunone Member Posts: 151
    edited March 2014

    I am looking for some advice - I know no one can tell me what would be best (although if anyone has a crystal ball I would appreciate knowing) I met with the PS yesterday and she said I would be a good candidate for DIEP. This is my third go round with DCIS, I know I am fortunate to have had this found each time at this point, but after two lumpectomies (one on each breast 2 yrs apart, and radiation to one breast) and this time there are 2 areas of DCIS to the unradiated breast, after talking to the BS we had decided BMX and reconstruction because DCIS keeps making an appearance. After talking to the PS she said, although I am a candidate for DIEP, she will most likely only be able to get a small B cup size breasts if we are doing both sides. I told her fine, let's get this scheduled. But after sleeping on it, I am wondering if I should only have a uni at this time (which would allow keeping more the size I am now)  The previously radiated, lumpectomy side has not had another occurrence, is has been about 4.5 years since last one. The new occurrences have shown up just over 2 years since lumpectomy on the non-radiated side. I know that breast size should not be the focus, I do know that, but I am also hoping to have a, hopefully, as good as possible, appearance afterwards, am I crazy? I don't have large breast now, probably a full size C cup, and I am not young, mid 50's, so I don't know why I am even thinking about this. I really don't want to have to worry about this happening again, so BMX would take care of this, yes? (then again all the "news" about overtreatment keeps echoing in my head) Smaller breasts shouldn't really matter to me, right? Any one have any advice, words of wisdom? (sorry this is so long)

  • dlz913
    dlz913 Member Posts: 11
    edited March 2014

    Hello everyone.  Can someone explain how many operations to expect with DEIP procedures?  I know that the first operation will be a long one but are there others at a later date?  I currently have implants and I have capsular contraction in both breasts, one worse than the other.  I think the DEIP procedure is the way I should go but am concerned about the time off from work and the number of operations!  I am also of moderate weight, 150 pounds, 5'6"  What does everyone think about my chances to get both breasts reconstructed at my weight?

  • Sunone
    Sunone Member Posts: 151
    edited March 2014

    diz913 - I met with PS yesterday, I am 5'5" and 147 lbs. I think it depends how much of that weight is in in your stomach area. I was told I can have the surgery, but will have smaller breasts, most likely small B size, because there is not a lot of tummy to take.

  • Zenful
    Zenful Member Posts: 599
    edited March 2014

    Sunone and dlz, I am 5'6" and 130 lbs and my surgeon made two D breasts from stacked DIEP and GAP flaps.  I didn't have enough stomach fat, either. Please don't rule out traveling to find a doctor that can give you what you are looking for.   I keep saying I am going to post to the picture forum. I just need to read about exactly how to do it. 

  • Teacher64
    Teacher64 Member Posts: 840
    edited March 2014

    Sunone, I'm going from D to B. In some cases size can matter, but I decided to be happy smaller since I'm short, 4' 10" and shrinking and 135. I chose BMX because of issue of worry of reoccurrence and I couldn't handle rads with heart issues. I have plenty of belly fat though PS said not to lose any weight. That was wonderful news to hear from a dr! Tuesday I go from expanders to my B's. It's a matter of what you want, not what anyone else says. It's about you and how you feel.

  • k79miller
    k79miller Member Posts: 101
    edited March 2014

    It is beyond me how some people can be so stupid & insensitive.  You have to wonder what is going thru some people's brains some times.  God chose us to deal with this terrible disease because he knows we are all strong women.

    Teacher-my surgery is 2 days after yours & I can't seem to concentrate on anything either.  It seems like all I can think about is my surgery & I wake up several hrs before daylight & can't go back to sleep because I'm thinking about it.  I'll be glad when the surgery is finally over.   Hopefully life will become a little more normal.  Although now I don't really know what normal is.  LOL


  • Jeannie57
    Jeannie57 Member Posts: 2,144
    edited March 2014

    Tberg, there has to be a way to get off that list! That's terrible!

    Brenda, stupid knows no limits sometimes. I wonder how she would feel if she were diagnosed with bc??

    Sunone, jeep in mind that you can only do DIEP once. There is also the TRAM and LAT, though. And, hey! There are no "shoulds" here! It is perfectly ok to want boobs again, no matter the size or your age. It's ok to want replacements for what you have lost. You have a lot of living to do!

    Dlz913, your PS is the best one to tell you how appropriate DIEP would be for you and what he can do. The first long surgery is to connect the blood vessels and place the flap/s--the goal is to get them to live. Everybody recovers at their own pace but you can't lift much for 6 weeks or so and some people have a hard time standing up straight for awhile. You will need rest. I started to feel better at three weeks but still needed lots of rest.The second surgery usually happens when you need some shaping or alignment and is much easier to recover from, in general. If you have lipo for that, you will need to wear compression for several weeks. Some people have more revisions if they need them. Sometimes you get nipples in stage II or III. I got mine in my dr.s office and needed no recovery for that. Stay tuned for more info from others!

  • Teacher64
    Teacher64 Member Posts: 840
    edited March 2014

    k79miller, the only thing that's keeping me rational is a to-do list that I've made myself stick to each day. Lunesta has helped me sleep for several weeks but I have to stop it Saturday, so I guess sleeping all day Tuesday will be a good thing. It will be a new normal for both of us next week. :)

  • laurie2025
    laurie2025 Member Posts: 117
    edited March 2014

    Hello,

    I just found out my diep flap will be scheduled for October.  I am so excited.  My PS is very conservative, and waits a year after radiation is complete, and then I am waiting a couple of additional months, as I will do better with my benefits from work.  I am wondering, how long are most people in the hospital after this type of surgery?  I had a bilateral mastectomy and was only there 3 days.  Thank you and nice meeting everyone here!

  • Kat-ski
    Kat-ski Member Posts: 212
    edited March 2014

    I need some advice about compression garments.  Right now I am in the hospital's wrap-style binder and as it is okay, it is getting me to thinking of other types.  PS recommends spanx but I had one of those when my daughter was getting married.  I couldn't stand it.  I know I have read on here about other garments that ladies have used.  Suggestions please and how do you know what size.  From what the nurse said is that after the last drain comes out, compression is needed for another month.  It doesn't help that I am short waisted  and 5'2.  I do like the open ones for going to the restroom.  Any suggestions?  Thanks Kat

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited March 2014

    kat-ski...when I woke up from my DIEP in NOLA I was in a Veronique.  Went from under the bra to close to the knees.  I just came out of stage two and am wearing the same style....size 5x which makes me feel like I must be a large woman! Lol. BUT this is a bigger size compression, same weight as from stage 1, but this was all about lipo, so I think that has something to do with the larger size garment.  I am 5'11 200 lbs, size 16.

    Here is a Veronique measuring chart, might help. http://showcase.designveronique.com/sites/default...

    Are you sure it will be an additional month after drains are out?  I can't remember all the way back to October...lol...but, I think I had ordered another garment, and wound up sending it back because after the drains were out they told me I was good to go.  I DID buy a pair of "compression" underwear...off the rack, as I felt "swelly" and liked feeling "held together"...I wore these over my regular underwear so I wouldn't have to buy so many pairs, (sorta like wearing jeans twice?). Definitely go bigger.  I had a paired compression  that was too tight and I was miserable!

    Wishing you the best.

    Pat

  • lahela
    lahela Member Posts: 515
    edited March 2014

    TBerg, sorry that you are being hit with these unwanted automatic reminders... but... I met with my onc last week and she insisted that I will still be having mammograms!!! I told her my BS said I wouldn't have to and that I have no breast tissue left and that my BC didn't show on the mammo last year anyway, but she was insistent. She's going to fit this year's in before my nip surgery in June :(

  • MartyJ
    MartyJ Member Posts: 1,859
    edited March 2014

    lahela. NO mammogram on DIEP.  Only breast MRI.  Do not let her have her way.  Get your PS involved.  

  • Jeannie57
    Jeannie57 Member Posts: 2,144
    edited March 2014

    Lahela, I agree with Marty. I'm sorry you have yet another surgery (hip) coming up!

  • Janet_M
    Janet_M Member Posts: 1,068
    edited March 2014

    Sunone - Nobody but you can decide what matters to you. And no, you're not crazy. ( Another answer would be that we're all crazy and there's nothing wrong with that). So I'm going to throw in my two cents. I think symmetry is really important, and would recommend having both breasts done.  I had both done because I had to, but would have been uncomfortable if I'd done just one.   And since you do have a history of cancer, why not just have the extra guarantee. A smaller cup size may be an adjustment but a good pushup bra can work wonders on a gal. 

    Dlz913 - Like you, I'm 5'6" and went into surgery at about 150. I'd deliberately gained a bit of weight (fun!) and had a healthy belly. My cup size was a C, and I was told I might be a B, but it seems I'm still a C. The only downside of having a 'moderate' or 'slim' built is that they have to pull the belly super tight to close it up. It's good for the eventual flat stomach, but takes a bit longer to stand up straight. I was a bit hunchy for eight weeks. 

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited March 2014

    Lahela, no mammo!!!!  She can't make you.  Talk to somebody that knows what is involved in this, and that a flap should not be squeezed in a mammo machine.  Ever. They certainly wouldn't try it with implants!!! 

    Sunone, I totally agree with what Janet.  Why ever worry about it again? And, you can't use your tummy twice, so....

  • Dyvgrl
    Dyvgrl Member Posts: 471
    edited March 2014

    I only needed a Uni but have decided to get a prophy on my left because I have a high family risk although bit BRCA positive, have extremely dense breasts, and want to only use a tummy flap. In my case, I have a good chance of getting cancer on the other side and then what to do with recon? I only want to do this once and be done with it. I already look like Frankenbride so didn't want to have to attempt a flap later on and have scarring elsewhere and not be symmetrical. This option makes a lot more sense to me. Of course, I have plenty of fat to donate to the cause so I'm hoping for a D/C cup for both and a tight tummy!

  • lahela
    lahela Member Posts: 515
    edited March 2014

    Thanks for the heads-up, ladies! I'm seeing the PS on Monday and will ask her to speak to the onc.

    Jeannie, it's nip recon, not hip  :)

  • MartyJ
    MartyJ Member Posts: 1,859
    edited March 2014

    A brief word on cup size - about 6 months after my DIEP I rushed to Nordstrom and purchased a "real" bra (had implants for 28 years and hadn't worn one).  They measured and provided me with a Wacoal in a 36C.  I bought 2 cuz i was so excited to finally have one.  No wires, but the band was never comfy.  They were apparently some form of minimizer - was that salesgirl crazy, I don't want to minimize the girls. I mostly wore nothing or my Bali stretchy trainers or my Coobie.   Several weeks ago I purchased another bra at an indy lingerie store - OnGossamer in a 34B.  It has light padding, is way more comfy, has underwires so I get a tiny bit of cleavage.  Okay, I am officially confused.  What size am I anyway.  Going to try another place.  Long story, short - size is what you make of it.  I was a 32DD until I was 33 (5'3", 118 lbs) and looked a bit top heavy (okay a whole lot).  

    I think the biggest challenge everyone is having is the surgery curve.  10 years ago very few doctors had the training to preform DIEP.  Now it is "the" thing and more doctors are getting on board.  Over the past 5+ years, GAP and PAP flap surgeries have been perfected but most PS are not trained so don't offer them.  A woman without much tummy may have a lot on the backside, but it seems that it will take another 5 years or so before there are enough trained surgeons for these procedures.  The stacked flap is also a great option, especially for thin girls like Zenful.  The procedures are available, no one has to settle for being smaller because their PS doesn't do a particular procedure.  Research and look - you might be surprised what you can have!

  • Dyvgrl
    Dyvgrl Member Posts: 471
    edited March 2014

    I have to travel for my DIEP because there are no surgeons here who can do them. I'm not settling for implants because we don't have adequate medical care here. So to Seattle I will go and it will be spendy, but I think it's worth it to get what I need to feel whole again and hopefully close this chapter! Most of my friends here who have had cancer never heard of these procedures so all I can say is research, research, research before you go under the knife. You deserve to get the right procedure for you.

  • Teacher64
    Teacher64 Member Posts: 840
    edited March 2014

    DIEP Tuesday so when will I wear a bra again? Going braless has been an advantage of the expanders, but being myself again is beyond words.

  • Dyvgrl
    Dyvgrl Member Posts: 471
    edited March 2014

    I can't imagine going braless! Sounds like heaven! I only have 1 expander so I'm super lopsided right now. Lame. Can't wait til May 8th!!

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