September 2013 Chemo Group
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70scharger: I will definitely take a spot in your trunk. And south is good. Mexico sounds perfect!
KJ: That is awesome about the shirts! I would never have thought to do that. Yay for you! And I tried to "like" your no like button post xD The IMRTs are great to
Sorry I have been MIA for a bit. I had my first fill last Wednesday. I seriously asked my friend for a gun on the way home.... I hurt more than with my surgery. I even took a whole Lortab beforehand (I debated on taking a half or a whole) I was beginning to pass out from pain on the 20 minute drive home. I have never hurt that badly in my life. I took another Lortab when I got home and 800mg of Ibuprofen and went to bed for the day. The next day was much the same. It is better now unless I sit for very long. It is weird. I will have to either stand up or lean way back. Sometimes it happens even when I am standing, too. I did discover if I kind of push on the TE on the side near my armpit and move it over a bit, it goes away. I guess it is sitting on a nerve or something there. So weird, too, apparently that nerve was connected to my nipple because I sometimes will get shooting pains in my nipple (that I no longer have) when I push on that side. I have two folds in my right side and I guess that is what is doing it. My left side is completely round like a breast should be, but my right has 2 flat sides on it. They said it would correct itself when it got more saline in it, so I am hopeful. I don't really want a square boob. My left side is great; no pain at all. I am guessing I have about 100cc of fluid in my TE so far (I am not sure what he put in during surgery). My PS didn't even want to do an expansion my last visit because he thought it was a bit too soon, but he did one "just to say we did one." Just 50cc. I am thinking maybe I should have asked for more to pop that fold out. I guess, by comparison future fills should be more pleasant! I sincerely hope, anyway. I can't do this if I am going to be literally put down for 2 days after a fill.
Other than that, life is good. Life is great! I made a 12 layer rainbow jello shots "cake" for my friends' birthday party tonight. It turned out perfect and I can't wait for him to see it! When he invited me a month ago I thought there was no possible way I would feel up to going, but I do! First time on a party bus, too. I am super excited! I hope that everyone is doing well considering all the crap that we have to deal with. Soldier on, ladies. Tomorrow is a new day
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And apparently the update turned my picture sideways. How weird. Oh well, I guess I needed to update it anyway
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hey ladies! Hope you are all doing well and carrying forward. Been busy taking care of nat all week and working from home. She's doing well, today was the first warm day in NYC since her surgery. We took a nice long walk with bailey and then went to the supermarket. She's taking a nap now. We see PS on Monday, nat hopes to get the drains out. Is there certain level they look for. 2 are at 20 and other 2 10 or less.
See BS on Friday for path report.
If drains come out, we resume herceptin on 11th, if not, then the 25th.
Nat's not happy with the hair progres, it's a peach fuzz that has not gotten all the way to the front yet. She's almost 8 weeks PFC.
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Thanks, KJ- I'm not real sure what they can do at this point chemo-wise, since I've just had my surgery and technically they've taken all of the cancer out of me? I'm guessing that's why the doctor didn't offer me any other chemo? Not sure, but that's one of the reasons I need another opinion. It seems like I won't be having a cancer break any time soon.
LHL- I'm being treated at Scripps and they don't offer the tumor testing. I'm checking out UCSD, which does offer it, I would just need to change my PCP to go there. More hoops to jump through, but I'd hope it's worth it.
KBee- Thanks much for the info.
Art-Glad to hear Nat is doing well. It sounds like those drains will be coming out on Monday. With my SO, she wanted 30cc or less for at least 24 hours before she'd remove it.
Kelly
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Kbee- ugh on the running deal for me too. I felt good so went for my usual 3 mile loop yesterday that I *used* to do. Could run the first mile non-stop then it was just walk run walk run the whole rest of the way. it took me almost the same amount of time 4 miles used to!! Gonna take me a while to build back stamina. (and OH my quads HURT today) I will have my next bloodwork check on April 1st. C'mon hemoglobin! I'm looking at finding a local 5k to do this spring to motivate me to get outside and run at least 3x a week. My hope of doing a full marathon in October might have to go on the backburner. (sigh)
In other news I finally dropped almost 6 pounds without trying too much. I had a hunch I had lost some but was afraid to step on the scale but was pleasantly surprised. #goodbyesteroids
as for all the classes I teach, really when you do it for a living like me you coach *a ton*. I do NOT participate 100% ever. In fact I participate so little of the time I have to do my own workouts on the side. but I'll tell you if this nerve pain in the arms doesn't go away soon....as far as my fitness teaching career goes....
I Might Retire Tomorrow hahah
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Peacock girl...hurray!! We all need to get back to "normal" but it will take time.
LHL, You too will be able to do more soon.
Hilarious IMRTs!
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TE question. My right (non-cancer side) TE is "squishy" compared to the left. They are supposedly filled to the same amount right now. Is this normal? There isn't a very noticeable size difference between the two foobs... just the shape is off a little. I know there was a lot of skin removed on the left side so that side is "tighter", but I wouldn't think that would have anything to do with the TE itself. Like, I can push in on the right and feel empty space, and can feel far less empty space on the left. Makes me wonder, can these things leak? I have an appt with my PS on Thursday for my last fill, and I will ask him then. I don't know... just seems weird that they are two totally different feelings.
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LHL-my cancer side has 75 cc MORE and looks smaller. I think the skin over there is just tighter. I really can't stand these things. They must be designed by a man (a man much less caring than Art!). So hard and I can feel the edges and them pushing on my ribs.And I swear they get cold when I'm at hockey. Brrr.
KBee: how long after bmx were you allowed to run?
Betterday: I had NS. My cancer side was dark and ps wanted me to keep bacitracin slathered on it until it scabbed over. Now the pink is returning to normal color. The flatness went away after a few fills.
5 weeks post op still tight and sore. Going to see about going to pt this week. I tried walking in the treadmill and it killed my back. I think my posture is whacked from the chest tightness and arm stiffness.
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hair still a shadow. Eyebrows are visible but blonde. Eyelashes may be ready for mascara soon?! Still no armpit hair.
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KBEE - I like I Must Run Today. My PT said I could run or cross country ski in a week or so. Once she has the lymph moving, she wants me to wear a compression sleeve when I exercise.. so I'll get that and try to start again. I feel so out of shape too.. and I have a cold, so there's been too much laying around. Hope you had fun at the swim meet. My nephew swims for the Atlantic Flying Sharks. I wonder if he was at the same swim tournament!
KJ - Infrequent Meltdown = Radiation Tired! Thinking of you as go forward with another hectic week!
LHL - Impressive Mom + Romantic Trip! Hope your tooth is better too! Just what a woman dealing with breast cancer treatment needs!
Simplelife - Intelligent MO = Resourceful Treatment! Your prognosis news is fantastic! I can imagine that you are tired, though! My PT is wonderful and I feel so much better already! I just lay in the dark and breath and she works on all my sore spots! I have some exercises at home and I'm hopeful that I'll be pain free in the arm before too long!
BetterDay - Imagining More Ringlets on Top! The hair will come! I have so much now it sticks straight up in back and I can't get it to go down!
And finally.....I Married Rather Terribly.... and found out yesterday that my divorce has been finalized! I don't recommend going through divorce negotiations during cancer treatment... but I did and am now "free" and moving forward from both! Actually, my ex is a good person and a loving dad and we have a cooperative relationship, which I am thankful for! But I'm happy to be divorced after a very long separation!
Wishing everyone a good week with minimal side effects and more strength!
Patty
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Clickchick- Glad you are getting 2nd opinion...they all seem to have different ideas/knowledge.
Betterday- My nipples were black and scabbed and one popped out at different time as well, now they are both 'normal' again..My mx was 9/13 and exchange 10/13
LHL- OMG! I LOVE your hair! I am SOOO envious! And KBEE,Peacock girl and Viji yours look totally normal too! and Simplelife it seems like you have lots ready to sprout! Mine still has spots of NO hair and fuzzy wispy kinds growing...I think all of yours looks fabulous! I remember starting chemo and you all were ahead of me and I was envious of being done, now it's the hair! HATE my itchy wig!
I made the mistake of drying it with a hair dryer after washing it the other day and now it looks like Barbie hair and one side sticks out and drives me crazy! LOOKS awful too...I need to go to the wig store and have them fix it...
KJ- You are a funny one! You always make me smile too! I think we all have our sad moments...and they sure seem to hit at the worst times.
Alfranco- congrats on being done with radiation.
Running- how are you doing with PT?
I am still having swelling / lymphedema in foob and armpit area...the PT says it's grade zero or it will go away...but it is SOOO annoying!
I am flying to Colorado tomorrow so wearing a sleeve thing and compression socks for the possible blood clotting with Tamoxifen. Annoyed at having to wear those too. Seems like just one more thing.
I have been feeling good and positive and staying busy. Working out on elliptical 20 minutes/time and walking and going all day, energy is good. But I still have thoughts that creep in and some bad/sad days...I want them to go away! And NEVER come back! I am SO over all of this and just really want it to be gone. Time will help I hear and I'm counting on that!
Sorry If I missed anyone but I read the last 4 pages and then wrote this...
Praying for all of us to be CANCER FREE FOREVER! DONE!
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I'm from the October group but read here often. I finished my Taxol on Feb 21, so I'm only 2 weeks PFC but my hair used to grow really fast! It's a lot more grey than I'm used too! I guess I will dye it soon!
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Gramof2boys, that is seriously long hair! Unbelievable!!!
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Wow Gram you are getting hair! I finished Taxol Feb 4 & am shiny bald with these weird stick up wisps of white hairs. Very slow going.
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Wow Gram, I need your hair secret!Patti, I think the Flying Sharks are from Atlantic Iowa...the Nishna Valley YMCA. They were at the same meet! Small world! We will actually be in the Twin Cities for a meet in early April, then will have a break for a couple months. When I go fo rmy appointment at the end of the month, I am goign to ask fo ra referral for PT. I do notice my hands swell a lot when I run. They have always swelled a little, but now they swell a lot. A compression sleeve sounds like a good idea now, but I am not sure how I would tolerate it in July!
Audra, It sounds like you are staying really busy. Hope the trip to Colorado goes well.
Knightzoo, I was allowed to start walking (as in for exercise) as son as my drains came out, jogging slow at 2 weeks, and running "normal" at 3 weeks. Slow jog is pretty much my norm though, so there really was not much difference! I was running 3 or 4 miles a month out from surgery (about 10 minute mile pace). But...I did BMX before chemo, so I do think my recovery was easier because of that. I am a month out from exchange and am not running that much yet. I run a mile, walk a mile, run a mile, etc.
Michelle, My TEs did feel different on the 2 sides, and one always had a corner that just wasn't right...was so annoying. I hope your tooth is better.
Peacockgirl, I was hoping to run the Dam to Dam...a local 20K, which will actually be a half marathon this year, in June. It has always been on my bucket list, and I really, really want to do it. I just am not sure it is doable! I ran 2 miles on Friday and was completely sucking wind. I hate trying to get back into shape.
Kelly, So glad you are getting other opinions!
Mama, I hope future fills are less painful. I hope you had fun on the party bus!
alfranco, I am wearing a sports bra, but not a tight one...and it is pretty comfortable. With my TEs I wore a cotton t shirt every day.
Since I was at a pool fo r20 hours of my weekend, my ball cap got a bit hot. Needless to say, I went topless for quite a bit of the time. I always hated the wave in my hair. I was hoping it would come in straight, and that somehow the chemo curl would bypass me. No such luck. The back is all kinds of wavy. I liked my straight wig, so as soon as it is long enough to get it relaxed, straightened...or whatever it is I need to do to it...I plan to. I need a bit more hair first. My new avatar was taken at the motel this weekend.
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we just got back from the PS. Drains are out! Nat says she feels less like an alien. Herceptin will be resumed tomorrow.
The only snag is that nat has been having some calf pain fir the last 4 days. More after she sits down or lies down. When she starts walking it's ok. PS ordered a sonogram, which well get either tomorrow or Wednesday.
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Art, Yahoo for no more drains! Get that sonogram sooner, rather than later, and if she has ANY shortness of breath, get her to an ER. The calf pain is hopefully just muscular, bu tit could be a blood clot, and if it breaks free and travels to the lungs, it could cause a PE. Sugery plus inactivity (or decreased activity) are big risk factors. I say that not to scare you, but because I have seen too many people in my years as a paramedic not call right away. -
LHL: Could the squishy be fluid buildup? I have several areas of it and that is what it feels like because I thought the same thing. I wouldn't have known what it is, but I have it all the way across the very top of my TE on the left side where I have feeling and I felt it coming on. My other areas of fluid buildup in areas with less or no feeling, I had no idea they were there until I saw them.
KBee: I totally agree about the straight hair! Mine was curly, and I was hoping for straight, too. My sister just told me the other day that it looks like it is a bit curly in the back. Still too early to tell, though. It is definitely darker than it was along with about 50/50 grey (I had no grey before cancer -___-)
I see the PT on the 18th. I keep getting more and more fluid so I am not sure what is going to happen. It isn't in my arm, it is in my chest. My PS tried to aspirate some out but he couldn't get it right away from the port site. I guess I will see on Wednesday what he says. He said to me last time "You got your damn drains out too early!" lol, well the bastards hurt, and he okayed it lol. I was down below 20 cc for several days beforehand.
I also think I may be allergic to the TE. I should have done my research before; I didn't know they had metal in them. I am sensitive to metal and can't wear any kind of jewelry unless it is solid gold (lucky me lol) I constantly have a rash on my chest.
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Running,
Those IMRTs were awesome!All,
Was gone all weekend for baseball. So fun to watch son play. Lived in Washington State for 42 years and had never been to Walla Walla. Didn't miss much. ;-) But, the field was nice and the sun was shining for a few minutes.Big news at the ranch is that the eventually-to-be-X (separated for 12 years... seriously!) asked me to finalize it Friday night. Turned it over to the attorney today. Seriously... after 12 years... could you have waited TWO WEEKS until after I was done with radiation??? What a... oh... nevermind... family forum and all.
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thanks KBee. She feels fine, no other symptoms. Will push to get sonogram tomorrow.
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21 down/ 9 to go!! Single digits!!
I Manage Rough Things
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Vintagegal, I barely have peach fuzz on my head and I'm almost 8 wks pfc. It can take a while. I had baby eyelashes start back about 6 weeks. They are still not long enough for mascara, but I try every time I put on makeup.
Peacock, metformin is for diabetes but there is a lot of interest in it as a preventative for several different kinds of cancer and there is some info that may specifically useful in killing some triple negative breast cell lines. http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/research-update... My MO is a leader in the TNBC field and presents at the San Antonio BC symposium every year. She has actually done some clinical trial work on the use of metformin and believes it may be particularly useful for women with TNBC. She felt like it was a good way for me to go since I had some residual cancer in two nodea left over after chemo, but not enough to warrant another full-blown round of chemo. She feels like the risk/benefit for me was worth it with metformin. If I had a complete response to chemo (no residual cancer), she wouldn't have made that recommendation. I'll actually be taking about double what people with diabetes take for the next five years. Remember, with triple negative, there is no targeted therapy available like there is with HER2+ or ER+/PR+.
Your new avatar looks great! You have such a pretty smile and your hair is growing in so cute.
Kbee, I think we are all struggling with how out of shape we are. You are getting there bit by bit. I think we all have a huge incentive to exercise since it's clear from studies how benefical it is to our chances of survival. We are going to get there! I don't believe I've ever been more personally commited to consistent exercise in my life! Being outside again now that the weather is getting nice is really helping with my mood too. It was 63 degrees today during my walk here in Tennessee. I felt like I was in heaven. You have far more stamina and engergy than me right now....no way, I could manage 16 hours at a swim meet. How did your daughters do?
ClickChick, I'm glad you are checking out your options. It will be interesting to see what UCSD has to say.
Lighthouse, hope you get relief tomorrow from your toothache. It's hard to believe it's time for Spring Break already.....but it is getting to be spring, thank goodness!
Mama, how did the party go with the jello shots? Hope you had a wonderful time. You deserve a break. I like your avatar. Is that a wig or is that how long your hair was before chemo? It's pretty either way. I hope it goes well for you with PT.
Art, I hope Nat's okay with her calf pain. Let us know.
Knightzoo, I'm glad you are going for PT. I got my first appointment tomorrow. I'm really looking forward to seeing what they say and what they can do. I think we are about the same on the hair...but I haven't started growing leg hair yet....that's fine with me LOL.
Running, I'm glad your divorce is finalized. I can only imagine what it was like to be negotiating that while going through treatment, but it's good it's all done now. I've been divorced (twice) and am now married to a really good man for almost eight years. I found out just how good he was when I got diagnosed with cancer. I wish you the best as you move forward with you new life.
Audra, I'm glad you have a sleeve for your flight.
KJ, what is up with these husbands that want to finalize a divorce while a woman is going through treatment? Congrats on getting down to the single digits!!
Okay....so here is my question. How tired will I be on rads? Is it unreasonable for me to expect to be able to increase my exercise during rads, or should I just try to hold on to whatever level of fitness I have going into it?
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simplelife,
I can't explain why, but rads make me tired. Very tired. I would give yourself a break through rads, but then make a BIG effort for no excuses afterwards. I seriously come home from rads and just want to go to sleep. It could be that I'm working 9 hours a day before rads and that saps my energy too. But, it is what it is right now... and... off I go to bed... ;-) -
simplelife: re rads and fatigue....in reality I think they HELPED me get back to a normal sleeping pattern after months of not sleeping on steroid induced chemo insomnia. Plus I had a headcold for about 2 weeks of rads and so I did nap from time to time. I NEVER napped on chemo. Just couldn't. My body wouldn't let me. And yeah I know about the lack of targeted therapy for TNBC. As for metformin, do you already have blood glucose issues? I would just worry it would mess with a system that doesn't have glucose issues.
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peacock - here is some metformin info linked below. I had no blood sugar issues prior to treatment. I had huge blood sugar spikes in relation to steroids, and since treatment my glucose level has not fallen back below 100. It is only slightly elevated above, but it makes me uncomfortable enough that I would consider metformin. A lot of people not enrolled in trials can't get their oncs to give them metformin, but their primary care will. Oncs have a tendency not to prescribe until they see rock solid clinical trial evidence of benefit.
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/research-updates/2013/metformin
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Simplelife, I hope you will be able to keep walking while on rads. I think I just got lucky not having to do them. My daughters did really well at the swim meet.
KJ, So glad you are down to single digits. My the end of the week, you will be down to one hand counting! It sounds like you will be able to start a completely new life when this is all said and done, but really, I think he could have waited 2 weeks...one less thing to concern yourself with in 2 weeks though.
Art, Glad she is feeling fine other than the calf...hopefully they get her in today and you get the all clear. This is such a long road!
Mama, The gray...mine is really gray too. I had only a few gray hairs before cancer, and I could easily pluck those out. I guess this is retaliation by the grays for my plucking of their friends. I am hoping in a few weeks it'll be long enough to color the gray out. I have never colored my hair, so it should be fun! Is there anything they can do about your chest rash? Can they put you on a faster track to exchange?
Every morning I put this HUGE glob of shampoo on my hand and then remember I don't need that much because I don't have that much hair. You'd think I'd learn. Each day, at least 5 people ask me, "are you going to keep your hair that short?". My response, "Yes... Until it grows long again." Meaning NO! Short hair looks so beautiful on most women and all of my friends have short hair, but I have a long skinny neck, and look like a giraffe when my hair is short, so I will grow it out as fast as possible!
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SpecialK, that's exactly what my MO said when I asked her about metformin. She said no randomized studies have been done and that there are side effects, so she said no. I am going to ask again the next time I see her though.
Kbeee, too funny about the shampoo. My DD laughs at me for even using shampoo at this point. There is nothing exciting happening up top yet, but using shampoo makes me feel good.
Anyone else having ingrown hair issues from hair regrowth? It's not horrible or too widespread, but I've noticed it. Using a loofah to see if that helps. Any other suggestions? I guess I should just be happy things are starting to grow again. Now if it would just start to grow up top! I even loofahed my head (gently) to see if that would stimulate anything!!!
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Betterday,
Yes, I had some ingrown hair issues in the first six weeks. It seems much better now (11 weeks post chemo).I actually took the buzzers to my head last night to even things out a little bit. Used the 1/2 inch blade. It got the overachievers but didn't trim anything off of the vast majority. It made a bit of a difference. Need to get the back of the neck trimmed this weekend.
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KJ, I think I need to do that now, even before anything substantial starts to grow back. My stragglers that managed to hang on through chemo are now sticking straight out of my head. The last time I shaved was at the end of December. I should probably do it again so I don't look so funny.
So, my night sweats are starting to diminish (good thing) but man o man am I moody (bad thing). Could that mean my period might be coming back!?
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betterday - when I first discussed metformin with my PCP she also pointed out the potential for GI upset (aka diarrhea - eeks!) which I had all through chemo, so I know I am prone to it - probably TMI, lol! However, in light of my continuing elevated glucose readings (it got to over 200 at various points during chemo, now resides just over 100) I might be willing to risk it!
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