A dimple on my breast has turned my world upsidedown
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Holeinone, thanks for the info, that helps, it's only been 8 days since my dx and I'm trying to sort thru all this info so I have some idea what my Dr is talking about when I get back. I appreciate your help.
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Hi Genny
I hope your having a wonderful time in FLA. I am here in Cleveland and it is cold and windy, not as bad as it was but your right where you should be. sorry you have to be here on the boards. The boards are what got me though this, such wonderful women helping each other. I also had ILC at age 44, I didn't think I would ever get though it but the strength comes from somewhere within, I like to think of myself as pretty bad a$$ at this point.
Its been a year for me since DX and I am now planning on a BMX with immediate diep at the Cleve. Clinic. I just don't want to look over my shoulder forever, this ILC as I am sure you have read is sneaky. Remember us Ohio especially Cleveland woman are tough and you will find the strength, having that beautiful new grand daughter sure will help!
Take care
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Thanks lemon, sounds like we'll probably be going thru it about the same time. I am with University Hospital which to this point I have been very happy with. I'm assuming my surgery will be at St John Westshore. I'm in Avon Lake. Where do u live?
I'm really enjoying the warmth and the sunshine. I am struggling with staying in the moment.
I cannot believe how young so many of the women on these boards are. Makes me kinda grateful mine waited till 56 which I initially thought was young. At least I don't have young kids at home.
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I just walked downstairs as my hubby was booking me a massage on the beach for tomorrow morning, what a guy!
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Genny
what a great idea to be on vacation--- it will be good to gather your energy. As others have said, once you have plan, things will move quickly. I just wanted to let you know that I am 5.5 years out from a Stage 2ILC that was also not found on my annual mammogram but picked up at my regular physical by my PCP. I had a lumpectomy, chemo and radiation and am getting ready this spring to go off the hormonal drugs. I won't say that it was easy, but it was definitely doable. My kids were 12 and 7 at the time---- and by an large, we did not let it disrupt our lives too much--I was able to work through much of chemo, but not everyone can--- it is so individual and I wasn't sure I could, I just had to wait and see.
For what it is worth, I barely remember all of it--- maybe I am just pushing it out of my mind, but it is a distant memory now. I mention this, because I know right now all your mind is saying is "cancercancercancer" we all remember this feeling, but I want you to know it does subside and the day will come when you wake up and don't have cancer as your first thought---
Be sure to talk to your oncologist about the benefits/drawbacks of chemo for ILC.... there are some who do not think it is as effective on ilc and that the hormonal therapies are the best weapon (my onc is one of them, but my oncotype came back in the gray range, so I decided to have chemo).
Please keep us posted on your progress. This too shall pass.
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momand2kids, thank u for your reassuring words, you hit it all on the head in regards to the way I feel. This vacation has been wonderful it was planed long ago, way before all of this. I will feel better when I know what my txt plan is and can get my work schedule figured out. I look forward to the day when my brain is not saying..cancercancercancer...
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hi Genny, wanted to say hello, as I just now saw this thread. Your profile pic is great -- what a pretty woman you are! :-)
You've gotten great advice, and you may not even need chemo depending on your OncoType score. I think I can speak for many of us in that the worst part of the journey is when the plan is unknown. Sounds like you have a great outlook, and I'm glad you're on a nice relaxing vacation with your husband (who sounds like a dear).
Re dimpling ... Last October, nearly one year post-Dx, I noticed a small dent/dimple on the underside of my unaffected (right) breast, also while blow drying my hair. My BS was able to see me right away. She didn't feel anything on a manual exam but to be sure ordered a mammo, u/s and MRI (it was almost time for my annual screening anyway). Everything checked out all clear, nothing was detected on any of the scans ... Of course I'm very glad for this but have a very tiny bit of wondering if it's really "nothing." My ILC tumor (on my left breast) was something I felt myself, was faintly visible on mammo and u/s, and loud and clear on MRI, so I don't really have any reason not to believe it. My BS is also one of the best in the Boston area, so I think I'm in good hands. Still a little scary ... No one accused me of being Chicken Little when I detected this dimple spot, but I guess in this case it really is just a little patch of cellulite. Has anyone had a dimple that turned out to be nothing?
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hi Gemini , thanks for the nice compliment! I am enjoying myself, had a mimosa and massage on the beach. I even forgot about the c word for a little while. Fabulous!
I would think if your dimple meant anything it would have shown up on the ultrasound or the MRI. It sounds like you're in good hands medically speaking. I do have a very slight dimple on the underside of my right breast as well, I even pointed it out to my Dr but so far with all the test it hasn't shown anything. I'll let you know if that changes. ( it's nothing like the dents on my left side with the BC ) it's hard not to worry about every little abnormality once you get into this isn't it?
Now I'm waiting for my dr office to call me back about that darn scan of my ovary, back to the cold, dreary world of reality in 2 more days. I don't know about my OncoType but thanks for letting me know to look it up and ask my Dr. I do know that it's in at least 2 lymph nodes so I assumed chemo was a given, but what do I know?
Anyway, let me know if you hear anything else, Genny
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Genny -
Glad you're having a good time! Hopefully your doctor will get back with you soon.
For clarification, typically the Oncotype isn't done until after lumpectomy or surgery. It can take a couple of weeks to get the results. The oncotype is in addition to the pathology report (which you should see first). The doctors really can't stage you until after surgery or lumpectomy, but you are correct that lymph node involvement takes you out of the stage 1 arena. I usually hear of radiation for lymph node involvement, chemo is possible. Right now, until all tests and pathology reports are in, its a waiting game. According to my oncologist, even at a Stage 1, he would recommend chemo if the oncotype is medium or high. This test was the deciding factor on whether I had to do chemo or not. Good luck!
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vbishop, Thanks for clarifying, it's so much info and it comes so fast. We come home tomorrow and I am so much more relaxed. At first I thought this vacation couldn't come at a worse time but now I realize it was the perfect time. I'm beginning to get more in tuned with the idea of taking it a day at a time. I did hear from my Dr today, I go for the U/S of my ovary on Thursday and soon after the radiation oncologist, but they don't actually have that appt set up yet. So back to the real world tomorrow.. Thanks for the well wishes, I'm so glad I have these boards to turn to. Genny
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Genny -
I am so glad you've had a great vacation! It has given you the opportunity to rest, both physically and mentally, and prepare for the battle ahead. You will do fine. From what I've read, it seems you have a great medical team and wonderful support team at home. That is sooo important! I'm sure you're ready to get the show on the road so you can "move on with your life". Hang tuff!
Lemon -
I am happy that you've decided on a BMX and immediate reconstruction. I had a BMX and reconstruction. I don't regret my decision at all. I didn't want to worry every time I turned around that ILC (or worse) would show up in the other breast. I have the new girls and couldn't be happier. Best of luck!
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Well I'm back from vacation, work was ok, my new oncologist office called and clarified appt for next Wed, then booked the following Thursday for radiation doctor, I see the cardiologist on Monday. Got my U/S of my ovary, ended up having to do it vaginally, which I did not expect. I left and went out to the parking lot and had a big old meltdown. This is all so tough, I just wish none of us had to do it anymore, it's probably just my big, old let down from the vacation. Anyway, just a random rant. Night all....Genny
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Genny,
Boy I would not expect that either. Sorry, sounds uncomfortale. Being diagnosed, surgery, going through chemo is a flipping nightmare. It is the time of our life to crawl into ourself, become self centered & take it one day at a time. My suffer in silence crashed at the 6 month point. I then, asked for anxiety meds. Ok, I am slow...Setting the "positive example" for my adult kids was my goal. I think it was a coping mechanism.
Rant, whine, that is what the website is for. You will get to know the ladies going through chemo at the same time. My life Iine through this has been the Insomniac thread. Check it out and read some of the post. These ladies are comedians with huge hearts. It is a very active thread, that moves quickly. One of the gals that posts almost daily is on her first chemo treatment.
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thanks Holeinone, I will check that out for sure.. Took my Benedryl, going to sleep now. I hope you all have sweet dreams
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Just a quick post, my ovary is all clear just a cyst. I go to the oncologist Wednesday and there was some mention of putting in a port, so it looks like it'll be chemo 1st, I'll get the whole story on Wed. Then next week I go to the radiation oncologist. I got my "book" of papers to fill out and the letter welcoming me to the cancer center. The fun is just beginning I guess. All in all, doing ok.
I have been checking out some of the different threads and some of them do have some funny women, a little humor can go a long way. Hope you're all doing well, gonna go pour myself a glass of wine and start filling out my medical info booklet.
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great news about your cyst, Genny!
Good luck on Wednesday, and don't hesitate to ask your medical team for a little more time if you feel they're rushing you in to the chemo procedure. Even if it's just for a few days.
Yes, humor is essential. I have made a point in demystifying/diffusing my experience with cancer by joking about it from time to time. For example when I threw out old Teflon pans, I declared them "cancer pans." It's hard to explain in writing, funnier (at least to me) when said aloud.
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well today's my day , the meet and greet with the onc. I got my path reports yesterday, looks as though a pretty good chunk of it is into the chest wall. Not what I wanted to hear. ERt, PRt, HER2-. Now I know why they're talking chemo 1st. Surgery will come later, good news is I found someone to fill in at work, I think. Sounds like she could do it for several months so that helps. I'm so nervous.
How's it going Lemon? Your surgery is coming up soon, isn't it? I wish you the best.
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Hi Genny,
Sorry that report was not all it could be. Truthfully, I do not know what it means, to be in the chest wall. I am guessing they will schedule you for a port & set a chemo date. Keep us updated, these appts are difficult & stressful.
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Interesting how many lobular gals had it "near" or "at" the chest wall.
My breast surgeon said mine was near the chest wall, but claimed he got a clean margin. Time will tell.
Best to you Genny. I must say how much I enjoy reading your posts. You sound like such a happy and optimistic woman.
What is your job? Glad you could find someone to fill in for you.
Stay steady; hills and valleys all along this journey.
Best to you.
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Hi Genny
I'm so sorry for your scan report. Kind of knocks to wind out of you, I know. In my experience, I felt pretty good the day after chemo because of the steroids I had on chemo day. The next couple of days not so good, then okay days. Try to do something fun on those good days to take your mind off what you are going through. Sorry I do not have any other advice, except it lifted my spirits to go outside for a walk or enjoy a garden.
I'll be thinking of you and hoping for the best.
MaryAnne
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Ok, forget my last post.. met with my onc today… the mass at the chest wall was the hematoma caused by my biopsy. Guess that's why I need to be more informed before jumping to conclusions. News is better(not great) than I expected. Tumor 2cm, grade 1, stage 2 invasive lobular. After a 3 hour consult, me my husband and myBF( a chemo nurse) and myself decided on 4-6 rounds of chemo, lumpectomy, node removal, radiation, followed by 10 yrs of Tomoxifen. I'll give you the details tomorrow, time for bed. Sweet dreams ladies
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Thanks for the update, Genny. Glad to hear your better-than-expected news. :-)
I didn't have chemo myself, but I know one woman personally and other BCO posters here who report that acupuncture can be very helpful to alleviate chemo side effects during treatment. I found it helped my energy level during rads. So just a suggestion that you might want to explore as you go forward.
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Genny, That is GREAT news! I was really worried the chest wall meant mets. What you will be going through is tough, but not as tough as mets. Wow, I'm just so happy for you.
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Thanks Danishgirl, it is still scary but not as much, I start chemo on the 14th, every 3 wks x 6 rounds, then lumpectomy, then radiation. Should be done in the fall.
So sorry to hear about your mets, how are you doing?
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I think I'm doing pretty well. I'm not in pain and the side effect from the Afinitor/Aromasin combo are really minimal now. I'll have my first scan after mets dx in a few weeks, so I'm worried.
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Genny5775,
I can totally relate. I had skin dimples that looked like ridges on one breast that were only noticeable when I raised my arm up to shave my underarms. Three doctors, two mammograms, and two ultrasounds later over the course of a year, I finally made my own appointment with a surgeon. He ordered an MRI with biopsies, and bingo. We had the answer I did not want to hear. It could have been detected a year earlier if I had just been more assertive.
I had multiple active tumors with skin involvement but thankfully my nodes were clear except for some isolated cancer cells they do not count as positive. Because it was so hard to detect and my "good breast" was very dense, I elected to have a bilateral mastectomy. The surgery was a breeze, but I took pain meds for three weeks and had to sleep with no shirt or sheets touching my skin to get relief.
I had my first chemo treatment of six yesterday with Cytoxan and Taxotere. The procedure was easy, but the side effects have not kicked in yet. When I get through the treatments, I will have 7 weeks of radiation and then 5-10 years of Tamoxifen. At least they CAN do things for is in the day and age. It is just not fun, and the emotional toll can be devastating. Xanax and antidepressants do help me sleep a few hours a night.
The biopsy result call came hours before we were supposed to move to Connecticut from Texas to set up our retirement home. The car was packed, all our belongings have been packed into storage, and we only had a few pieces of our furniture left in the house. There are no pretty pictures on the walls to look at, and we has already tossed out all our pantry, refrigerator, and freezer contents.
But we managed (so far). We bought the bare necessities at Walmart, canceled the move for now (I have a daughter in college in Texas and friends nearby for support as well as doctors I am familiar with her in Texas). Now I will have to return to work when my chemo is over and my retirement will have to wait. Right now my goal is to beat this disease and hopefully be in New England in time to see the Fall leaves (right after radiation is over). The house up there is in the woods so the view should be worth the wait.
I want to tell everyone on this forum how so very much you have helped me through this awful, scary process! May we all get through this as easily as possible and then start living!
Vicki
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Hi Vicky, wow our stories do sound similar only I did not ever know to push past mammograms that said dense and fibrous. I've had 15 of them in since I turned 40 (I'm 56 now). I do not understand why women are not told to stand in front or a mirror and look while flexing and moving their arms around , as part of their monthly exam. Such a simple thing, yet I've talked to only 1 women, a mastered degree RN, who had ever heard of this. I just don't understand it. I had a very false sense of security, I had a thickening type feeling, not exactly a lump but I had a mam in September, went to my PCP and she felt it and was told all was well. The dimpling was found purely by accident because I usually dress before drying my hair.
My CA is a grade 1 and already in at least 2 nodes so my onc says it's been there quite a long time. I went to the radiation onc last week and she told me it has broken out of the capsule of the lymph node so I will need 6 1/2 weeks of rads. The tumor itself only measures a centimeter or so.
Surgeon, Onc and Rad Onc all agreed that I should do the 6 rounds of chemo prior to surgery, then lumpectomy, then rads. What is bothering me is that I have read so many stories of women who went into surgery with a 1cm tumor and came out with several or with CA in the prophylactically removed breast. Also, how will I know if there is a future CA if mammograms do not work for me? I have a Onc appt next Wed before my chemo on Friday so I have a list of questions. It all happens so fast and there is so much to learn.
That said, I'm getting the same chemo as you, Cytoxan, Taxotere q3/wks x 6 rounds. I've had 1 treatment 12 days ago and it has not been too bad. I did not have any SE during or for 3 days after except for constipation. I ended up taking MOM and prune juice which worked. I did take the Claritan to ward off the bone pain from the Neulasta 1 day before chemo, the day of, and 4 days after. I had mild bone pain and some muscle pain on days 4-7 but not bad. Kind of like I had done a day of yard work or something and was just sore. And I've had mild nausea, took Compazine the first week and still eating an occasional soda cracker, make sure you have them on hand. So far I still have my hair, but yesterday woke up with what looks like acne on my face and scalp...arrgghh... I'll be a real site if that doesn't clear up before losing my hair! Anyway, I think it's like being pregnant , everyone is different and no way to know till you do it.
I am on a thread called starting chemo in March ..under chemo, befor, during and after that has some really informed people and we are all going through the same thing at the same time. Good luck to you, we'll have to keep in touch since we are having the same tx. Most get adromycin/cytoxan first so it's hard to compare.
I'm so sorry about your having to live in limbo with your house and retirement. Sounds like you were really thrown a curve-ball. Can you have your rads in Conn or will you stay in Texas?
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Genny, glad to hear chemo sounds manageable so far. Hope it continues that way for you.
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Hi Genny, we have the same dx. I tried to rejoice in the grade 1 report and the fact that the size was less than what it could have been. Weird approach, I know, but I also celebrated any side effect I could see (celebrated is perhaps a loosely used term, but I did try to see it this way) from chemo as the proof that the meds were getting EVERYWHERE, zapping any cell that might have decided to take a trip somewhere inside me. You'll feel yucky at times from chemo, but mostly I could take joy in life and wasn't laid up in bed ever. I lost some weight. I hated some smells. I was tired at times. No hair. But my hair grew back, the weight loss was welcome, my sense of smell corrected itself, I'm getting ready right now to go for a 6 mile 2900 feet elevation up and back hike, and I'm here.
Hugs
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So claireinaz, I see you had a lumpectomy and 2 yrs later a BMX. Why?, this is what I keep seeing and I'm trying to figure it out. Can you tell me about those 2 years?
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