Starting Chemo in March 2014

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  • mom2Bnegativex3
    mom2Bnegativex3 Member Posts: 221
    edited March 2014

    VIXEN, I am so sorry it has been so rough(()). how are you doing today? You are in the same combo I will be on so I would love to hear how it goes! you might try sea bands to if the Dorgan Isn't cutting it for nausea:)

    Kiwilady, glad you got your port in and ready to go! Sorry it took so long!

    Lovemyboysandlab, YAY one down!! after that first TX it is such a great feeling to start this journey, know what to expect and get it over with!!

    Also for those who love Biotene and need to chew gum(great for nausea and infusion time) Biotene makes gum. OMG it helps to for dry mouth. 

    Big hugs to you all I am so glad to find this group and you are,all so supportive and great!

  • NinaW
    NinaW Member Posts: 110
    edited March 2014

    Hi, mom2Bnegativex3! Wow, you've got a lot on your plate right now. I absolutely hate the fact that you have to be back here, but I'm glad to have your company along the way xoxo

    First of all, congratulations on the new baby!!! You've officially got every reason in the world to beat back this recurrence quickly and get on with the business of enjoying your newest little one. Also, no court in the land would convict you for slapping anyone who questions how tired you are, lol. 

    Can you tell me why you opted against the port this time? I'm honestly curious, especially since you say you loved it last time. I haven't scheduled placement yet, but my sister swears it's made treatment so much easier for her, and I hate to think about potential permanent damage to my veins. The chemo nurse I spoke with said I'd do just fine without one, but it's not like she has to live with it if she happens to be wrong. And the prospect of ongoing Herceptin treatments for at least a year following chemo makes me think the port is the smartest way to go.

    Also, I LOVE the Sea Bands - just picked up a new pair for myself yesterday! I suffer from motion sickness and had constant, low-grade nausea during my pregnancy, and found that the Sea Bands were really more effective than anything else once I figured out how to put them on properly. As an added bonus, it wasn't a medication. Everyone, follow her advice and check them out - if they work for you, it'll be the best $4 you've ever spent.

  • Lovemyboysandlabs
    Lovemyboysandlabs Member Posts: 83
    edited March 2014

    Nina, I have the port and it definitely made things easier when I went. Mine was put in on Thursday and I had the treatment yesterday and thought it would hurt a lot when they touched it, but it didn't. For me, the idea of them sticking needles in my vein makes me more queasy than using this. It is just a simple pin prick in the port vs them trying to find the vein etc. I personally really hate needles going into my veins, I always get a bit light headed at that for some reason.

    Depending on what drugs you are on, they told me some of them burn and since you are on the Herceptin for a year like me, you should definitely get one to save your veins. I think the Herceptin can burn, if I remember correctly.

  • mom2Bnegativex3
    mom2Bnegativex3 Member Posts: 221
    edited March 2014

    I was all ready for it unil I talking with my MO About it and my concerns with another surgery due to the baby. She said I didn't have to have it this time since I did fine with the taxol part. Last time I had  A/C were I had to have it due to the damage it could do to the veins. Plus I will only have TX every third week. Going into chemo last time I had a huge fear of needles. With my IV in my arm from the lumpectomy I couldn't even look or move my arm but thus Time i would like a bit of "normalcy" In between treatments. 

    Also, there was always a post nasal drip in the back of my throat. I had it for a few years after TX and I always contributed it to the port. I had a slight anxiety attack the day after my last treatment, (checking blood levels) and just wanted it out. I had it put in the morning if my first Jan 11th TX then taking out Sept 28th the day of my exchange surgery. 

    Also she said I could do one or 2 with out it and then have it put in!! Maybe, in my head, just one way of denying what I am getting ready to start again. Or it maybe just freedom from this all!!

    Good luck in your descision. (())

  • Summerwheat
    Summerwheat Member Posts: 86
    edited March 2014

    Diem, I went to Sequoia Hospital in Redwood City for the infusion, as my MO (single doctor practice) recommended it and was pleasantly surprised. It was quite a drive for me, but worth it. I might check out the BCC support group, I went to their office with questions last week, and they were very helpful. They also had a lot of donated new hats and scarfs that we're very cute, so I took a few and made a donation. 

  • agness
    agness Member Posts: 576
    edited March 2014

    In case you want to help share prevention and screening info via social media channels, I found this board on Pinterest of breast cancer awareness infographics.

    http://www.pinterest.com/pinkglovedance/breast-cancer-infographics/

  • Summerwheat
    Summerwheat Member Posts: 86
    edited March 2014

    Diem, I went to Sequoia Hospital in Redwood City for the infusion, as my MO (single doctor practice) recommended it and was pleasantly surprised. It was quite a drive for me, but worth it. I might check out the BCC support group, I went to their office with questions last week, and they were very helpful. They also had a lot of donated new hats and scarfs that we're very cute, so I took a few and made a donation. 

  • Xrayalli
    Xrayalli Member Posts: 237
    edited March 2014

    Mom2B-so sorry you are going through all this while pregnant. I was curious about the port, too. But I am also curious about the reoccurence. You said you had a bilateral mastectomy, did you find a lump in your chest wall, armpit, or something?

    Alli

  • mom2Bnegativex3
    mom2Bnegativex3 Member Posts: 221
    edited March 2014

    XrayAlli, my BS said it was in my chest wall. It is at 6:00 on top of the implant. I guess that is considered my chest wall?! Having the biospy this time around was not fun. I thought the doc was going to pop my implant. 

    So basically right now they cut out a big piece of my skin and it is tight around the implant but I don't have any discomfort.  Thanks for asking!

  • Lorbgoo
    Lorbgoo Member Posts: 213
    edited March 2014

    hello. I'm new here and just have been reading some of your posts. I just found out yesterday I will need chemo. 4 times every 3 weeks for a total of 12 weeks. I am not doing that good now. I am nervous, scared, and upset. How did ya cope when you just found out?  

    Oh are any of you going to try the cold caps for hair loss?

    I will be joining in since it looks like my chemo will start in march. 

    Is anyone not getting a port?

    Thanks. 

  • AKJ
    AKJ Member Posts: 190
    edited March 2014

    Lorbgoo,

    I'm so sorry you have to join this club. Sounds like my chemo schedule, once every three weeks. It was like a nightmare when I found out and it's still very surreal. I don't have a port and my first treatment was just fine without it. The only other advice I have is to surround yourself with good people and let them help. 

  • Xrayalli
    Xrayalli Member Posts: 237
    edited March 2014

    Mom2be-that is so interesting, I am a mammographer and we don't do imaging on mastectomy sides, that is crazy that there must have been breast tissue/cancer cells left from your first time around. Kind of scary, actually. 

    Lorbgoo-so sorry you are here, too. I am not trying the cold caps, sounds like a lot of work! We are all pretty freaked out here but we will support each other :)

  • AKJ
    AKJ Member Posts: 190
    edited March 2014

    Yes Mom2b, that's pretty scary. I'm so sorry you have to go down that road again. Sending all the good vibes I can muster.

  • MedicMom2
    MedicMom2 Member Posts: 26
    edited March 2014

    hi

    I've even lurking for a few days under the assumption I would be jointing you ladies for March chemo. Met w my BS yesterday and the 2.1cm tumor was 1.2cm once excised, IDC, Grade 3, DCIS as well. Neg nodes. Having re-excision tomorrow b/c margins not clear. He planned on putting in port tomorrow as well. 

    Nurse navigator called me this morning and says she is delaying port b/c oncologist now wants to do oncotype to help decide chemo need. Apparently he doesn't know if I need it now b/c tumor smaller than mammo/u-s/MRI all showed. 

    Now need to wait a few extra weeks for healing and testing. 

    I've been reading (a lot) and it seems that grade 3 pretty much gets chemo regardless. 

    I guess my concern is that pre-lumpectomy the onco was definitely chemo based on age (46) and grade. Size was a secondary reason. I also chose a lumpectomy b/c onco recommended strongly against delaying chemo long enough for healing of BMX I planned. Recommended waitin until next summer for prophylactic BMX. Now they seem to be backing off and letting a test decide. 

    I am a paramedic, well-informed, I work in a busy urban ED (same hosp being treated at), and don't want to make waves but ... After wrapping my head around chemo and it's effects, I'm angry (very angry actually)  that they are changing their minds mid-way.  Had I known all this, I would have chosen a different treatment to begin with. 

    So March 19 I should know if I stay a march chemo. 

    Suggestions??

  • AKJ
    AKJ Member Posts: 190
    edited March 2014

    medic mom, I don't blame you for being angry! But it sounds like the tumor isn't as bad as originally thought. That's good news, right? Mine was bigger than they thought. They said that there's so way to know for sure until they get it out and measure it. And it's probably best to get all the data in before deciding the course of action.  

  • mom2Bnegativex3
    mom2Bnegativex3 Member Posts: 221
    edited March 2014

    I am not doing the cold cap because they say it can stop the chemo from getting to the scalp and I would rather be bald again then have this SH*T again:)

    I will try to see if I can pot a pic later. This time around I am going to put on make up and draw on eyebrows. Last time I didn't care but this time I am rather large with baby and just want to!! I have seen some great you tube videos on it and can't wait. 

    Also there is a shampoo to desensitize your scalp that will help out soo much. I always had my cap on and some times my scalp would tingle. I got my first sample at my treatment place and it worked great. NOTE the eye lash lotion that "claims" you can keep them doesn't work. Waste of time and money. If you are going to get a wig have you MO. write you a cranial prosthesis. Helps with cutting down the cost more then half:) 

    We can do this ladies. Have a great support team is key. But have others that you can vent and know what you are going through is so helpful((())) hugs to us all we can do it!!

  • mom2Bnegativex3
    mom2Bnegativex3 Member Posts: 221
    edited March 2014

    thanks again ladies! It helps talking this stuff out!

    Alli after a mast. We have 3% breast tissue left. Mine is TN so it has a higher recurrence rate. All I had for check ups where breast exams. That was it. I chose not to have radation last time MO  said since I had a mast. They said I wouldn't need it. When I went to the MO last week I asked if I should of had it and she said no. Still today they wouldn't refer it. 

    The only thing that I am worried about now is that they will have to induce me the last week of May. Baby will be 35 weeks.  I do have something to keep me motivated, (besides a 16 year old and 13 year old girls).. They are excited about the baby. I haven't told them about the big C yet. Guess I should. They have been around me bald. We all just make a joke of it. Oh, plus I never got nipples reconstructed last time so no breast feeding for me!! Lol

  • NinaW
    NinaW Member Posts: 110
    edited March 2014

    Welcome, Medicmom - I think you have every right in the world to be frustrated, because it's so difficult to come to terms with chemo in the first place, and now you're back in limbo again. It sounds as though your MO was advising you with an eye toward standard of care based on what the imaging showed, but now that the tumor is out and it's quite a bit smaller than originally thought, he wants to make sure you'll truly benefit from it before he subjects you to all of those awful poisons.

    Ultimately, it's sort of up to you either way. If you insist on MX, you'll get one. If you insist on chemo, you'll get that, too (although you might have to seek out a second opinion and express your desire for treatment). So much of this stuff is based on statistics and hunches and cost-benefit, both in terms of treatment $ and in terms of how much harm the treatment is likely to do to you. But it's your body, you know? So listen to your instincts, examine your options, make a decision and don't look back.

    Mom2B, I'm with you on the cold caps. It's a ton of work, and while it sucks to lose your hair, it would suck a whole lot more to have to do it again. Also, I'm frankly sadder about my eyebrows and lashes, because it's not like I can hide my face with a wig or a cap or a scarf :-) I'm lucky in that I wear makeup almost every day, so I just have to brush up on some skills and hope that I can fake my way through it. As a sidenote, if you ladies have access to a salon that waxes or tints eyebrows, you might want to pay them a visit while you still have brows. It's amazing what they can do with a little tint - they can seriously make four eyebrow hairs look like fifty. It's not permanent, but it lasts for a few weeks at a time and makes life easier.

    On the other hand, I'll definitely be icing my fingers and toes - not because I care all that much about the nails, but because I live in fear of developing permanent neuropathy.

  • AKJ
    AKJ Member Posts: 190
    edited March 2014

    Nina gives good advice.

  • mom2Bnegativex3
    mom2Bnegativex3 Member Posts: 221
    edited March 2014

    Nina, that sounds awesome!! I am going to get a mani/pedi before I start. I know one I start chemo I won't be able to get them. I turn 40 this year. Lots of stuff happening. And some great distractions. It helps to know your bad days then get back to normal. Woo hoo ya us!!! Maybe when we all start we could make a sticky for our TX days and a count down!!

  • NinaW
    NinaW Member Posts: 110
    edited March 2014

    Hah! AKJ, I don't know about that, but with regard to the eyebrows at least, I'm surrounded by women who battle ageing on a regular basis, and they let me in on their secrets :-)

    Mom2B, I love the idea of a sticky - it would give us all the chance to wish each other luck every morning in a somewhat orderly fashion. Also, you're a kid to me - I just turned 50 last month. You have a lot of great stuff to focus on this year: new baby, new decade, and kicking cancer's ass once and for all. Your dance card is full!

  • Lovemyboysandlabs
    Lovemyboysandlabs Member Posts: 83
    edited March 2014

    Nina you are 50? Wow! Never would have guessed! :)

    Lorbgoo, I am sorry you are here, but glad you came to this site. When I found out on February 5, I quickly joined here because I didn't know what else to do and it has helped tremendously. I just had my first chemo yesterday and just some stomach pain today. I was all about the cold caps until my doc said there is a risk of a cancer cell not getting zapped when you wear them, that's all I needed to hear. I cut my hair off really short (pic was posted a few days ago in this thread) and bought some really cute stuff to wear when the day comes. Headcovers.com had some really cute things, and there is a boutique near me for cancer patients with all kinds of cute things, maybe you have something similar in your area.

    I also recommend the port, for me it is more tolerable then someone sticking my veins. Never been a fan of that. 

    Best of luck to you and keep us posted on your journey. We will all get through this!

  • Macintx
    Macintx Member Posts: 118
    edited March 2014

    Lorbgoo- I read up on the cold caps, and followed the thread on the subject here. Some doctors support the use of them and some discourage it.  I learned that they are not as successful with ACT chemo compared to some others (many users were on TC), and that the work required is a lot.  The users were talking about lugging all the caps in dry ice, icing before, during and after chemo, having to wash your hair in cold water, lots of shedding even with use, only being able to wash your hair every few days, etc.  It just didn't sound worth it to me.  Maybe it's because I have really thin hair to begin with so losing even 1/3 of my hair would look awful, or I'm just lazy and wouldn't want to go to all that trouble for just the possibility of not losing most of my hair, and of course, the thought that there might be stray cancer cells lurking in my head close to my scalp that wouldn't get zapped, but it is a personal decision so I can understand why some people would want to try it.  I would suggest reading through the whole thread here on cold caps.  It will give you an idea of the work required.  There are some success stories on there.   Not sure how to link it, but I'm sure you can use the search feature to find it.

  • Lorbgoo
    Lorbgoo Member Posts: 213
    edited March 2014

    I did look at the website. It does seem like a lot of work but, my husband said he would help me with it. I asked my oc and he said I could do it. I am still looking into it though. I am doing better than last night but  I have a distraction from my kids. I just dont want to go anywhere or really talk to anyone. I'm a mess...

  • mom2Bnegativex3
    mom2Bnegativex3 Member Posts: 221
    edited March 2014

    Lovemyboysandlab, I'm glad you only have stomach pain and it is not going to bad with all things considered:) Your wig looks absolute amazing. Just like your real hair!

    Lorngoo(()) it never hurts to feel like that. We are all here for what ever you need!! Sometimes it helps to talk about it, sometimes it helps to just escape from it! 

  • mom2Bnegativex3
    mom2Bnegativex3 Member Posts: 221
    edited March 2014

    Lovemyboysandlab, I'm glad you only have stomach pain and it is not going to bad with all things considered:) Your wig looks absolute amazing. Just like your real hair!

    Lorngoo(()) it never hurts to feel like that. We are all here for what ever you need!! Sometimes it helps to talk about it, sometimes it helps to just escape from it!   

  • mom2Bnegativex3
    mom2Bnegativex3 Member Posts: 221
    edited March 2014

    FINALLY some good news in this battle/journey!! I just got the call that I got clear margins with the lumpectomy and the satellite nodules that they saw over a bit were nothing!! YAY!! Hope everyone is doing great tonight and hopefully soon spring will be here and we can enjoy it ..some what:)

  • Stilts
    Stilts Member Posts: 246
    edited March 2014

    Hi March 2014 ladies !...I was right where you are 3 years ago ! (see March 2011 Chemo Lounge)...I was diagnosed January 27, 2011, had a double mastectomy (no reconstruction), port in (so glad I had that!) and started AC x 4 , weekly Taxol x 12, then radiation x 37. It was so helpful talking to the ladies going thru the same ordeal 3 years ago. We were all great support for each other. Yep, lost the hair and found a super cute wig....I'm telling you my new "crop" of hair is fantastic..curls and waves ...love it !! I am currently on Arimidex and just graduated to every 6 month visits with my ONC. Feeling great and sometimes surprise myself at how infrequently I think about BC. Enjoying every day . I'll check back on your group and I'll be thinking about you ! Take one day at a time !

  • megomendy
    megomendy Member Posts: 141
    edited March 2014

    Re: work, I'm hoping to be able to work 3-4 days a week. I'm taking intermittent family leave, so I won't get paid, but I can come in when I feel well. They are pretty flexible there. I've worked for the agency for 32 years!

    Mom2BNegativex3, I am so sorry you have to go through this again, especially while you are pregnant. Wishing good health to you! (I am triple neg too)

  • susiem
    susiem Member Posts: 14
    edited March 2014

    Hi Stilts, welcome back (and glad it's just for a visit). Sounds like you had the same cocktail menu that I'm scheduled for: I start DD AC X 4 next week, followed by T weekly x12. It's so encouraging to hear that you don't think so much about having had cancer any more. I think that's the point we all want to reach. And the sooner the better. We have lives that we need to get on with and babies to be birthed, and kids, and dogs, and everything else. 

    My port goes in tomorrow and I'm planning a last-hurrah girly day on Friday with mani-pedis, wig shopping, and a nice lunch with my BFF from childhood. 

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