Bringing in 2014 with Tamoxifen!

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  • corky60
    corky60 Member Posts: 726
    edited February 2014

    I took this pill too.  I am expecting great things from this med--less SEs than Aromasin and better for the bones.  So at least I have a positive attitude.  The pill is huge compared to Aromasin.  Funny how that works.  Good luck to us one and all!

  • Salina888
    Salina888 Member Posts: 96
    edited February 2014


    lol...Annika

     

  • Ktjay
    Ktjay Member Posts: 64
    edited February 2014

    Congrats annika12, you will be fine.  My friend has been taking it for years and that has helped me with my mindset with it.  I feel it is saving my life and each time I take it I just picture it fighting and doing its job.  It was scary though my first time too. 

  • woodyhollow
    woodyhollow Member Posts: 116
    edited February 2014

    good for you annika, I know how you feel, hope the SE's will be mild for you too!

  • Furfriend2
    Furfriend2 Member Posts: 299
    edited February 2014

    Hi Dawn,

    I noticed you posted that you are taking something for neuropathy? My MO did not prescribe me anything but told me to try taking b12 or B multi. I am 7 weeks post chemo and still have numbness/tingling in fingers/toes.

    Hair is slowly starting to come in but am being told the Tamox does not help...

    Fur

  • annika12
    annika12 Member Posts: 433
    edited February 2014

    is there a magical number to when se starts?? Sounds bad but wonder how long before your body responds to the meds. I got a bit dizzy the first day .....my hubby said its the blond hair growing back lol !!! I was worried about nausea , after surgery I couldn't take anything !!! Docs said my nausea center in my brain was on high alert from chemo, glad that didn't happen :) Happy Monday everyone !!

  • Salina888
    Salina888 Member Posts: 96
    edited February 2014

    annika12, I didn't notice any difference, and i'm almost 2 months on Tamoxifen.  I am eating alot healthier, and lost about 5 lbs, because I heard one of the side effects was weight gain.  

  • JWoo
    JWoo Member Posts: 1,171
    edited February 2014

    Hey Ladies, I have a question for you: Does your face actually look like
    your physiognomy has changed? I kept looking at myself in the mirror,
    thinking that I didn't look like myself, and thought it was an emotional
    response. But yesterday I was out with several old friends and some
    photos were taken, which once I saw them, I had to ask my bf if that was
    what I looked like now. He said yes, that my face looks different now.
    Not just a weight thing either. that there is an actual change in the way my face looks.

  • MrsDarcy
    MrsDarcy Member Posts: 162
    edited February 2014

    Hello ladies.  I have my bottle of Tamoxifen waiting on my nightstand.  I finished rads on Jan. 24 and asked my MO for a couple of weeks reprieve before starting Tamox as I started a new job a week after finishing rads.   It was a lot to go through - and thought if I had to add Tamox to the stress of the new job and the recovery from rads, I would be a basket case.  He agreed.

    I did, however, start taking Vitamin D, Calcium, Omegas 3 6 9 and Biotin about 2 weeks ago as a "pre" Tamox cocktail ;) .. just to get things rolling properly in my system.  I also make a smoothie in the morning with kale or spinach and different fruits and berries.   

    I am going to take my first pill this Friday - and I am keeping fingers and toes crossed that all goes well. :)

  • Kruise
    Kruise Member Posts: 330
    edited February 2014

    hi everyone- sorry I haven't logged on for a week or so - and I don't even know what I've been doing except the week went super fast! Lol. Actually I was exercising a fair amount of it. Finally with sticking to this 'no sugar' diet I'm starting to lose weight. Lost 3kg the first week (that's about 6/7 pounds I think)! My legs are so achy though - I feel like I have concrete poles attached to me.

    Welcome to all the lovely new ladies. Great to see your posts. We have certainly got a few stories to tell between us all haven't we. I'm a bit like you Woody in that I know I went through all that last year and it's going to be forever a part of me but I try to just not dwell on it too much - it's like it happened to some other part of me! If it wasn't for this excess weight and short hair I'd think I'd had a bad dream!!

    Nearly 2 months on Tamox for me and I do remember a bit of nausea or dizziness at the beginning but now all good apart from my ever faithful hot flushes. I think the exercise is helping with that though. 

    How are you going remembering to take it Annika? You are the same as me being slightly PR+ only.

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited February 2014

    i think this is my third week. i had my alt doctor prescribed me herbs so i don't have obvious SE. but this week i started to feel ware/hot at night during my sleep. my back was quite moist from sweat...that's the only thing i've noticed.

    did anyone notice that you lose your appetite a little?

  • annika12
    annika12 Member Posts: 433
    edited February 2014

    yes Kruise so far so good :) but I'm still on high alert we will see how I do when I settle in to taking them, the pill box will come handy !! Our diagnosis are pretty close ...I'm also 44 ...but her+ !! I got a little dizzy 1st day but nottin yet :) I'm still doing rads 5 more full and then 8 boosts !!!! Happy Tuesday everyone !!

  • DawnMik
    DawnMik Member Posts: 21
    edited February 2014

    Kristinaj - I know how you feel.  I started taking tamoxifin in December - I have noticed within the last 3 weeks or so that all I do is cry.... silly things make me cry like commercials on tv! I was on Prozac before all of this - but I am now working with my doctor to adjust the levels.  She told me it was probably a combination of the early menopause; the effects of the bc; and the tami.   Speak to your doctor - they are there to help.  It may take a little bit of time but if you work together you will find a solution that works for you.  Good luck to you!

  • DawnCT
    DawnCT Member Posts: 143
    edited February 2014

    Hi Everyone -

    I am joining you guys - so glad you are here to share this journey with!

    I took my third pill today.  I am taking it at lunchtime for now.  Not feeling nauseous or dizzy so I am glad for that. 

    I am hoping for minimal side effects for everyone!  It is so helpful to read all your posts. 

    Katie Couric did a show on menopause yesterday. She had two drs on there discussing helping menopausal symptoms with  hormone replacement therapy.  It was depressing because we are taking a drug which will bring on menopausal symptoms and there's no help for us.  I just don't want tami to turn my life upside down. I am being careful about what I am eating to try and combat gaining weight.  Hoping for the best! 

    Dawn

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2014

    Its interesting how everyone has such different responses.

    I have been on tamoxifen since January 2, and have had minimal SEs.  Warm flashes only, and they are only 1-2/day.  I take 75 mg Effexor which I think helps with that.

  • TarheelMichelle
    TarheelMichelle Member Posts: 871
    edited February 2014

    JWoo, I completely get what you are saying about your face changing. Tamox, like Aromasin, changed so much about my entire body. I KNOW that Tamox doesn't prevent my body from producing estrogen, but you wouldn't know it from looking at me. Body hair, eyelashes, fat in my breasts and hips, all the womanly things that estrogen provides, have changed drastically. I have always had a booty, and now I have to wear a belt with pants, or they will fall off of me, I have no hips to hold them up! I will not go into further detail, it would be TMI, but there are few body parts I have that have not changed because of the Tamox.

    At least I haven't gained weight, yay. 

    It's not something that I hear discussed a lot, but the fact is, breast cancer treatment that removes estrogen from our body in some fashion takes away our femininity, not just psychologically, but physically, in many ways. 

  • LisaSp
    LisaSp Member Posts: 253
    edited February 2014

    I'm about two months on tamoxifen and the SEs, so far, seem to have decreased. First couple of weeks, back pain was bugging me but starting yoga has greatly helped all my aches and pains. I also have taken Pilates specifically for bc survivors. Both of these things have helped significantly.

    I also take the antidepressant Pristiq, which I believe has greatly reduced hot flashes to mere occasional warm flashes. When I was on a recent vacation, temps in the 80s seemed fine too.

    But I have gained 10 lbs. since the diagnosis probably due to decreased exercise and increased appetite. Got to watch that tamoxifen doesn't accelerate weight gain!

  • TarheelMichelle
    TarheelMichelle Member Posts: 871
    edited February 2014

    LisaSp, not everyone gains weight and is hungrier on Tamoxifen. I lost weight and my appetite with Tamoxifen. Now THAT'S a blessing! 

    I'm really curious about Pristiq but am afraid of the weight gain, I blimp out on most ADs.

  • KatiAK
    KatiAK Member Posts: 138
    edited February 2014

    I'm into my 3rd month of T with minimal side effects other than hot flashes.  I've gained a few lbs recently but I think I got lazy and "treated" myself too many times.  Spring is coming so I'm really hoping to get more exercise!  Does anyone else still feel exhausted?  My MO said to give myself as much time to recover as it took for treatment but I sometimes wonder if I need an antidepressant.  I struggle sometimes to feel joy.  I'm not unhappy and I'm certainly grateful but ... Will this get better?   Some things are better.  I'm not as anxious and scared.  Cancer isn't my first thought in the morning. I don't obsess as much so I know time heals but I still feel like I suffer from PTSD.  Is it only me?

  • vwbordelon
    vwbordelon Member Posts: 58
    edited February 2014

    KatiAK,

    It's not just you.  I am on Lexapro and it has really helped.  When I was 1/2 through chemo I hit bottom emotionally.  So 10 mg (which is minimal) has made a huge difference.  MO wants me to,stay on it for awhile because it's helps with hot flashes.  I will be one year from diagnosis on March 13th and when I look back I can't believe what I've been through.  God has been good and we just need to keep the faith!

    Hugs going out to you!

  • JWoo
    JWoo Member Posts: 1,171
    edited February 2014

    I'm glad that I am not the only one that has noticed the changes in appearance. It is just odd. 

    Here is my record of tam so far: I have now been on Tam for 2 months, and started taking low-dose effexor to help with the depression and hot flashes. It hasn't really helped so far. I have noticed the joint and bone pain has lessened a little bit, but I am still exhausted. I am getting more and more tiny red dots all over, my muscles are stiff, and I have noticed that my feet and urine are very vinegary. I am thirsty all the time, and drink a ton of water. I have always been an active dreamer, once I actually get to sleep (chronic insomnia) and have noticed that I have more nightmares, and more vivid dreams than ever now (when i actually get to sleep.)  I haven't gained or lost any weight, but I am hoping to lose some once I get into PT and am able to get some guidance on what I can and can't do (possible LE happening.)  I have noticed that some of my body hair has lessened, and I am keeping my fingers crossed that the hair on my head continues to grow instead of falling out. I have also noticed that I feel short of breath at times.  

    It is hard to tell if these are direct side effects of tam, or all the meds I take together, or continuing SE's from chemo, or what combo of those are causing each SE, so I am just gonna keep on truckin' with the tam in the hopes that it will keep cancer at bay. 

    Well, I hope you are all feeling better! Take care of yourselves ladies!

  • DawnCT
    DawnCT Member Posts: 143
    edited February 2014

    Taking pill #5 today. No side effects yet. 

    I am being careful about what I am eating and got back on the treadmill this week.  I am determined to at least eat well and exercise as I have not been exercising much since diagnosis last August.  It seemed like I was always too tired but now, 5 weeks past rads, I am finally starting to feel more energy.  If I start feeling tired again, I will know it is probably the tamoxifen

    JWoo - I'm sorry you're having so many symptoms.  It is hard not knowing what is causing what.  Have you consulted the doc about this?  I would think the tiredness from the Chemo and major surgery would be expected?  

    KatieAK - you have been through a lot.  I think your feelings are very normal!  I have good and bad days mentally.  Life is different now and it's an adjustment.  It seems like so many women here take an AD - it's no wonder!

    Hang in there everyone!

  • annika12
    annika12 Member Posts: 433
    edited February 2014

    I am doing great but I told my husband and friends a long time ago to keep an eye on my after treatment.....I'm just one to hit things head on and when its "over" fall apart !!! Hang in there ladies feelings are normal no matter what they are.......we are fighters/ warriors but we also need rest and re charge :) 

  • MrsDarcy
    MrsDarcy Member Posts: 162
    edited March 2014

    Hi :)

    So, I took pill number 1 tonight - with dinner.   I am curious to when others take their pills and if anything happened (nauseousness, trouble sleeping, etc ..) and it required that you change the time of taking your pill ?

    I know everyone is different (some have SEs, some don't ..etc ..) .. just trying to see what seems to work, or not.  

    Of course, I am keeping fingers and toes crossed that my relationship with Tamox is SE free ;)

  • Furfriend2
    Furfriend2 Member Posts: 299
    edited March 2014

    Hello Tamox posters,

    I have been on Tamoxifen for 3 weeks.(generic tablets by Watson Labs).

      Hot flashes, warm flashes, bone/joint/back pain and waking up EVERY night have been my se's. My MO just took me off of it for now.  I have apt. with my MO in 5 weeks when I finish radiation & then will revisit where we are at & how to proceed. 

    All the best Furfriend

  • BayouBabe
    BayouBabe Member Posts: 2,221
    edited March 2014

    Furfriend - hope your side effects begin to ease soon.  Good luck!

    I just refilled my Tamox.  Had to change pharmacies and call around to get the Teva again.  Last of the Teva available in my town.  One pharmacist said they are unsure at this point when they will ever be able to get more - computer simply told him Teva is not available.  Sigh.  After side effects from hell on the AIs, I am enjoying this easier run on Teva Tamox;  not looking forward to trying a new manufacturer and experiencing new side effects.  3 months of Teva, so I will put the worry on the back burner for now, and hope the shortage is over in time for next refill.

  • lisa2012
    lisa2012 Member Posts: 652
    edited March 2014

    VW, I'm with you on the mood support. I went on low dose lexapro 9 mos ago and it has helped a lot.

    I'm in this group because of having had to switch to tamoxifen after trying all the AIs over 13 mos. Now I have been on T for almost 6 mos. Not great. Hips and back and shoulder...much like the AIs but my hands are OK. I think that realizing that treatment and monitoring of SEs and possible recurrence means that it's not over, it's still on my mind a lot. My MO ordered a bone scan to make sure that my ongoing aches and pains are not... you know. I am considering whether i want to deal with that. I have 2 wks till appt so can mull it over. Any of you had one?

  • BayouBabe
    BayouBabe Member Posts: 2,221
    edited March 2014

    Lisa - I had a PET and CT, as AIs gave me major bone pains.  Nerve wracking, but glad I had them.  It gave me peace of mind to know that at least at that particular moment in time, no mets were showing up.  I suggest following through with the appointment.  So sorry you are still having side effects.  I swear the "treatment" is worse than the disease.  I never felt so bad when I was walking around unknowingly with cancer, but the AIs made me feel so very horrible.  Sending you hugs and wishes for the side effects to taper off.  

  • Furfriend2
    Furfriend2 Member Posts: 299
    edited March 2014

    Ladies,

    We can do this...I think, right? We have to hang tough

  • TarheelMichelle
    TarheelMichelle Member Posts: 871
    edited March 2014

    We are tough. 💪 furfriend2. 😃

    did your doctor discuss taking 1/2 tablet of Tamox for a couple of weeks or longer, to give your body time to adjust?

    Some women can tolerate only the 10 mg dose, not the 20. 

    Your body has been thru a LOT recently. There doesn't seem to be a need to rush in to Tamox. Best to all of you. 

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