February 2014 Starting Chemo Club

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  • Njmom3
    Njmom3 Member Posts: 143
    edited February 2014

    jbokland I'm one of the few who had a less than stellar time with port placement.  Woke up coughing and complaining, thank God the recovery nurse knew me and said I was not like this after my mx.  Obviously anesthesia issues.  Now I have used the port twice with no problems.  Had blood work yesterday, and today for my 2nd AC with the Emla I never felt the pinch at all!  Good luck with the neuropathy.

    So far after my 2hour cocktail, I had a turkey club, no lettuce or tomato, came home, took a little nap from the Ativan, ate macaroni and cheese and feel great.  I'm crossing my fingers this good feeling stays!

    Mazie, what are ginger capsules?  Need the deets, that's what my 13 yo says lol!

    Hope good luck with number 2 half way there!  Still hanging on to my hair, probably not much longer.  As devastated as I am to lose it, losing my boob was easier lol, I want it over with, the anticipation is killing me.  Plus I keep buying hats, scarfs, a wig, buffs, you name it - my retail therapy is breaking the bank!

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited February 2014


    Today I'm 12 days post my 1st treatment and I'm noticing that my scalp is sore when I scratch it and I feel like it is almost tingling at times. I also think I'm shedding pubic hair, well I don't think...I am. My appetite is almost back to normal, but I still can't taste anything and I can't drink milk w/o having bad stomach cramps. My mouth is very dry this week and I also have the pimples on my chest and face.

    My gums are starting to feel sore when I brush even with a soft brush, oh and my lips are very dry too.

    I have a question....is the steroid given in the cocktail to prevent naseau? I wasn't given any to take at home and I wonder if that made a difference in how sick I was so soon after treatment. I was sick that night and all that weekend. I hate steroids, but if it is a way of preventing the naseau I can rethink that.

    BTW, I have zero scarves, hats or anything yet. I really got to get it together!!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    Tangandchris some get it in their drip like you. In my case I got it in pill form to take the night before, day of and the night of. I do believe it's to reduce allergic reactions. Also helps with fluid retention although I think I'm one of the few that got that benefit.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited February 2014

    I always thought the steroid was just to prevent allergic reactions, but it actually DOES also help prevent nausea and vomiting when combined with other antiemetics:

    http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/supportivec...

  • h0pe
    h0pe Member Posts: 125
    edited February 2014

    tangandchris - we are having similar SE's: gums are super sore (especially when flossing), scattered pimples on my head and top of chest (they don't itch and does not look like a rash), and itchy scalp.  So if it is any consolation, you are not alone! I am calling my MO today to see if I can get a rinse to help prevent any mouth sores!

    NJmom3 - may you keep feeling good! only 2 more to go for you of that stupid AC! Will you update me on your hair status...I keep going back and forth on when to shave it.  I was supposed to do it last weekend, but couldn't bring myself to do it. We had the clippers out and on; then, I backed down!

    Good luck to all who are getting infusions soon! 

  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited February 2014

    Two years ago I was where you are all at now.  YOU WILL GET THROUGH IT.  I didn't think I would  During A/C I told my Oncologist I wanted to quit.  He held my hand in a doctorly fashion and promised Taxol would be better, and that I would survive.  Taxol was better and THANK GOD he talked me out of quitting chemo.

    I am doing well - I have a busy breast cancer blog and if you need info, I have a lot of it there.  MY BEST TO ALL OF YOU.  Sending hope and encouragement your way.   Denise

  • Macintx
    Macintx Member Posts: 118
    edited February 2014

    I just had my first AC yesterday, and they did give me a drip of anti-nausea and steroid in my iv before the AC.  So far, knock on wood, I feel totally normal, but I feel like there is a ticking time bomb of SEs that will hit at any time!  I went ahead and ate breakfast and had a cup of coffee and will head out around lunch to go get my Neulasta shot.  Guess I'll keep my anti-nausea meds with me in case anything hits while I'm out. 

  • Njmom3
    Njmom3 Member Posts: 143
    edited February 2014

    Hope-  I took my shower this morning and globs of hair came out.  I have really thick hair and am used to shedding, but this was baaad!   I of course as mentally prepared as I am for this, emotionally I am a zero and broke down.  I have so much hair I can get away with this probably for a few days but, I'm not sure if I want to.  Watching this come out is torture, but shaving it seems the same. I'm sure it will come down to some last minute impulse, I wish I had a shaver at home, so I'll have to go to a salon.  It was easier to lose my boob than this!   On a good note still feeling good, took my decade on and will see how that helps.  Zulesta shot this afternoon then done for another almost 2 weeks.

    Taking a short trip to Lanacster Pa on Monday thru Wednesday next week, need to get away, I guess I'll be bringing my wig GiGi and other head coverings...  No down home Amish food this trip, mostly they are family style or buffets and I think it's best to avoid that, so a few upscale restaurants will do!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    Njmom3 I never did buzz it but I did cut it short. I too have lots of thick hair. I would vacuum my pillow and bathroom every day for about 1-2 weeks. I would empty the shower drain twice in one shower because it became so clogged. Hang in there.

  • mazie73
    mazie73 Member Posts: 74
    edited February 2014

    NJMom3: Ginger's been shown to reduce nausea in chemo patients. I got a bottle of ginger root in 500 mg capsule form at Sprouts (kind of like a low-rent Whole Foods). I take three a day, with meals, starting the day of chemo and continuing for four days after (so, five days total). I have a prescription for Compazine and haven't had to even think about opening the bottle. Maybe I'd be OK without the ginger capsules, but I certainly don't want to experiment at this point. 

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    I have told people to go to a Japanese restaurant or store and buy some pickled ginger. I didn't get nausea on chemo but  the last time I was nauseous I tried it and it worked.

  • Njmom3
    Njmom3 Member Posts: 143
    edited February 2014

    Mazie - did you have to get ok from the doctor for those capsules?  So far the decadron and an Ativan at night seems to be working.  Based on my last chemo Thursday was the worst day so I waiting to see what happens.  Had my nuelasta shot today, taking the Claritin and hoping for no issues like last time.  

    Lago- I'm not sure if I see hair falling out for a week or two every day if that will prolong the agony, I did cut it short but not like pixie short.  Ugh decisions decisions...

  • trying2staypositive7
    trying2staypositive7 Member Posts: 96
    edited February 2014

    Hi! I'd like to join the February group. I started chemo today. I'm taking Cytoxan for four infusions. The whole infusion went fine but they didn't prescribe any anti-nausea pills? Is that normal? The nurse told me to take or eat ginger if i got nauseous. How long was it before you started feeling side effects? Thanks so much for any insight that u can give me. I'm working on adding my stats to the signature line. Sending everyone big gentle hugs

  • Gardengirl66
    Gardengirl66 Member Posts: 93
    edited February 2014

    finally shaved my head today (1/4iinch) had a pixie cut the last couple days, got tired of cleaning up hair everywhere, picked up my wig today ....love the look of it ,but feels a little tight...so a thin toque/hat for me inside when the kids are home. Blood work and oncologist tomorrow , 2nd infusion on Friday...then half way there!! Yippee! 

    Trying2staypositive7,they also sell ginger candies to suck on , Whole-foods has them , or just buy a piece of fresh ginger root, slice off a little bit and pour hot water in a cup with the ginger and drink like a tea.

    Wishing minimal side effects  to everyone just starting and those heading into their second .

    Hugs 

  • formydaughter
    formydaughter Member Posts: 213
    edited February 2014

    I'm back.  The rash came and went.  Chem burn rash on face they think is from the Perjeta.  I've been a rotating case of SEs - daily call to my MO, daily Rx change, daily SE change...it continues.   They put me back on steroids for awhile to help with nausea, throat closing up and rash.  But steriods causes tremor in hands (couldn't type) (tried to work from home a bit), and nausea when coming down from them.  The latest was today - all my veins in my right arm turned kelly green.  Then they went back to normal.  No explanation - must be aliens.   I had an ultrasound of my upper left arm (there was pain and they feared a blood clot).  Result was that they found a 3 cm mass, likely liquid.  MO said we'll watch it - might be post-surgery fluid.  The moment the ultrasound tech said 3 cm mass, I freaked - it hit too close to home.  Left side has been a bad side.  But no blood clot.

    Lost my hair day 14 after 1st treatment.  Starting falling out in clumps.  Brushed out more clumps.  Cried.  Took a bath.  tried to wear a wig out, but felt embarrassed, obvious and that it was falling off/moving.  Tonight my brother came over and shaved me.  I feel sad but better n a way.  Wig easier on.  My daughter came home and said that I looked scary.  She didn't want to be near me.  I cried more.  She read a book about cancer/chemo that my MO gave me today.  It helped.

    My blood counts are high enough that I am now back out of quarantine.  I get to see my daughter dance this weekend with a trip to a dance competition.  Will need a mask, but I can go!!  Will come back for my second hit of chemo on Mon.  I do not want to go back, knowing how bad I felt this time.  I'm afraid to go back.  They are changing my pre-meds.  I will have Emend, 4x the steroid I had last time, Benedryl and Aloxi.  If this does not work, I'm up for cannibus.  My MO actually raised it.  

    Tomorrow I go to my OB (SEs include UTI and a what I think is a staph infection on my labia)  But, my inflation with my tissue expanders went great - no pain this time and I'm liking the result.

    Time for sleep.  Sleep heals.  I love that first moment when I'm waking up when I feel safe, cozy, content and I do not have cancer.

     

  • megomendy
    megomendy Member Posts: 141
    edited February 2014

    Trying2stay, I have a friend who is currently taking cytoxan for a severe hearing loss and she does not get nauseous and hasn't lost her hair.  Maybe cytoxan alone is more manageable? I think more of us are on adriamycin AND cytoxan.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited February 2014

    Formydaughter - you have been through it.  I did TCH, too, and did not have an easy time of it (no Perjeta).   Gentle hugs!

    FYI, you can get a yeast infection of your skin when your white counts are really low.  I got one in my armpit and also in the perianal area (sorry if this is TMI for some).  So it could be that and not staph.  Something to ask about when you see your gyn.  It was treated successfully with Nystatin powder.  

    Hope you feel better soon. 

  • h0pe
    h0pe Member Posts: 125
    edited February 2014

    I don't know if it helps, but I've been trying to eat yogurt. Greek yogurt has more protein also!

    Positive vibes to everyone!

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited February 2014


    My hair is starting to shed alot, scalp is really sore and in the shower tonight it was coming out bad. I had a mini-breakdown tonight over it.

    formydaughter-sorry to hear you are having so much trouble. I'm concerned about my daughter's reaction to my hair loss, so I can identify with you. ((hugs))

  • mazie73
    mazie73 Member Posts: 74
    edited February 2014

    NJMom3: Yep. I took a list of vitamins and supplements to my doctor before chemo.  

    Another good one is L-Glutamine, which helps w/ neuropathy.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    trying2staypositive7 I'm wondering if because you are only getting Cytoxin that maybe you don't get nausea as often. I would call your onc and ask him/her about this. But just to let you know I was on Taxotere & Carboplatin and didn't get any nausea.

    formydaughter hang in there. Ya the word "mass" isn't a great one for us

  • trying2staypositive7
    trying2staypositive7 Member Posts: 96
    edited February 2014

    Thanks to everyone. I will ask more questions tomorrow when i go into for my shot.

    Megomendy-thanks for letting me know about no nausea for ur friend. If I'm being honest, that's my biggest fear! Every little twinge in my stomach sends meinto a cold sweat! Thanks for sharing  with me.

    Lago-i'm going to ask doctor more questions tomorrow wben i go in for my first shot. Thanks so much for all of the great advice and help that u give.

    Gardengirl66- Thanks for the ginger candy and tea tip. I will try that! nd CONGRATS on being halway there on Friday!

    Goodnight to all! Wishing everyone NO side effects

  • purpletron
    purpletron Member Posts: 9
    edited February 2014

    formydaughter, I'm so sorry to read about the difficulties you've been having, and a little heartbroken to imagine how difficult this must be to go through with young children. (I'm in kind of the opposite situation, where all my family and most of my friends are thousands of miles away, which has its own troubles and heartbreaks.) I hope both you and your daughter are able to adjust to and overcome these challenges soon. And good luck to you, Gardengirl66, and everyone else coming up on their second (or any) infusion!

    trying2staypositive7, I hope you get all the answers you need tomorrow. I've been keeping a notebook with a diary of my side effects and lists of questions for each appointment; it's already pretty full!

    After a couple days of quite intense body pain which Tylenol didn't really touch (I will try the Claritin & also ask about something stronger next cycle, stupid me), I'm feeling pretty okay here on Day 7 -- tender mouth, occasionally tingly fingers, and a little residual achiness aside. Am noticing some twinges in my scalp and pondering rocking a mohawk for a while...

    Stay strong, ladies!

  • formydaughter
    formydaughter Member Posts: 213
    edited February 2014

    Thank you all.  Your words of encouragement are valued and appreciated!  

    Man, was I cold sleeping last night bald.  Somehow I lost my hat - I think my cat decided that the knit flower had to go.  He also took my scarf. (yes, I went to bed dressed for building a snowman)  Schools are cancelled here today with another snow storm.  I'm happy for the extra time with my daughter.  I've been feeling disconnected from her, due to my family covering her schedule while I am at home.  I'm thankful they are doing so, to keep things as normal as possible for her, but secretly I'm jealous and missing her, because usually I'm the one to cart her to school and activities.  She's also not hugging me as much.  At first it was post-bilateral mastectomy (it hurt), but now I'm missing it .  She tries not to hurt my feelings about my hair (even joked last night about how I'll be free from any lice scares (the things they think of from school...).  So, my goal for today is to snuggle her as much as I can.

    Purpletron - I'm sending you a hug too, I can't imagine going through this without family and close friends nearby.  I feel for you and send you a hug.

  • Sicilian
    Sicilian Member Posts: 49
    edited February 2014

    Sending hugs to all of you!! I know how hard this is and how scary, but how lucky are we all to have one another??

    Went to my onco for my followup visit today and told him that pain from the Neulasta had me out of my mind. He said that my blood levels were so good that if they stayed that way right before my next treatment, he will stop the Neulasta. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Stomach still a little wonky, but otherwise doing OK and happy to be halfway there!


  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited February 2014


    I don't know if this was the thread, but I'm looking for whoever had posted about Doubleheader. http://www.doubleheaderusa.com/ It is scarves and hats...I'm just wondering if you got your order and liked the scarves. The prices are great, but I'm just worried that the quality might be bad, or the sizes. Anyway, its a shot in the dark, but I thought I'd see if you were on this thread.:)

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    All I know is all the pre-tied scarves were too big for me. I have a small head I guess and with no hair even smaller. That's why I preferred ones that weren't pre-tied. 

    If you want to go cheap I would recommend going to a fabric store and buy some remnants. There are fabrics you can cut that won't frey so you won't have to sew the edges.

    My favorite place for scarves was www.anokhiusa.com   All wash and wear if you take them out of the dryer right away. Maintained color. I would get at least the 30" x 30" As someone mentioned you can use those ponytail elastics that come in colors to tie the back. They are pricey though. I'm not sure if the rectangle size would work. I don't think it's wide enough.

  • h0pe
    h0pe Member Posts: 125
    edited February 2014

    Going in for #2 tomorrow. Just want to remind everyone to eat small meals frequently. i found that I got nauseated when I had nothing in my stomach. You're on so many meds that you need to have something in your stomach, even if it's just a little bit of food, at all times. 

    Also, if you are having stomach issues, I took prilosec prophylactically days 1-4. My onc said some people stay on an acid reducer throughout chemo, nonstop. I got sick of taking pills so I only did it for a few days, but did not have that much stomach issues. 

    Good luck, All! Think no side effects! 

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited February 2014


    Lago-see I have a big head lol.....at least I think I do. I've tried to wear ball caps in the past and they just are too tight. I have really thick hair and even when I wore a ponytail they didn't fit right. So, I don't know how that will work w/o the hair. I'm gonna look on that website and I like the idea of the remnants.

    I haven't planned well for this part at all. My hair is really starting to come out now and I just didn't want to deal with it before. Now it's here and I got to :(

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    H0pe I was on Prilosuc (yes I spell it that way) initially but that stuff never works for me. By the time I finished chemo I was on 2 meds and yes I took it the entire time no stopping. But if you are having issues be sure to check with your onc if it's OK to take any OTC (over the counter drug) before you start. We all have different medical histories and aren't all taking the same meds or even chemo. Always best to be safe and check.

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