Winter 2013-2014 Rads
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Holeinone and Charger: When I was first dx, I was told that after the mx, no further treatment was required. So then I started to worry about the healthy breast. Once we are no longer focused on a big worry, our mind is free to start worrying about other things. Now that I had to start rads, I am back worrying about that and have forgotten all about the breast. When we have time to start processing what has happened to us, we can also experience depression. It is likely a form of PTSD. We get used to worrying and it becomes difficult to stop. Yes, like trying to stop the flight response. Be kind to yourselves and take great care. I will join you when the rads are done
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Lizziek, Glad to her your accelerated treatment is going well. Sounds like not that many folks can get an opportunity to do it based on stage and tumor grade.
Today my blood counts came back and were great! Of course the rads nurse was calling me within the hour to get me in today. I said I felt up to it now and trudged though a snowstorm for a 4:00 appt. I had a very interesting discusssion with my RO. He said there wasn't a lot of research on extra rad time for people who missed days who had breast cancer but he had info from the head and neck cancer area which is much more aggressive cancers. Their formula was 0.6 extra rads per day missed. Since I missed 6 days due to my illness I would have to do 3.6 extra rads. I get 1.8 rads per session so I would need 3 extra days.....what? I corrected the RO and said that was 2 extra days not 3. 2*1.8 is 3.6. For a second I caught him off guard then he scribbled some math on a paper and said I was right. I think he was embarrassed he made a silly math error....but it does make one pause and go hmmm. He said he had to think more about whether he wants to be that aggressive. I guess I can say the worst case is I get 2 extra days.
He also mentioned that he saw my ct scan from the hospital and noticed my spleen was enlarged. He compared it to a previous scan last year. He thought I may have had sepsis. Don't know what that is but will be looking it up shortly. Very weird that the doctors at the hospital never mentioned an enlarged spleen. I don't know what to think. Just glad to be alive and back kicking cancer to the curb!
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Lojo - I'm having superclav zaps too 1/2 way up my neck, but have no marks above my collar bone. Guess they're positioning from other marks?
Interesting about the green tea. I'll ask tomorrow. My RO only said no strong antioxidants like Vit A,C, E.
JMFrankel - glad to see you up and around. Let us know the verdict on the spleen.
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jmfrankel- glad you were able to brave the snow and get to radiation. I was happy to be done yesterday and could stay home.
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Kayezzy-that is exactly what I have been told to do. I finished rad Wednesday and started Arimidex generic that night.
About Domboro, once Again all different advice from medical community. They told me to use as directed on the package. It's been such relief! Might be different since I was on almost the last treatment.
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Got the Domeboro today, but haven't tried it yet. When I brought it up, my RO said it can be drying and not to use it more than one a day since it has an astringent quality. He also said not to use hot water. At the advice of one of the rads techs, I also asked him for Silvadine, but he said my skin isn't bad enough for that.
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Yes, every RO seems to prescribe differently. Whereas mine gave me different instructions for Domeboro than what's on the box, I was also told to use it 3 times a day. Miminiemi and TeamKim were told to follow the box instructions but only use once a day. So follow the advice of your RO. He/she knows you best.
With the exception of the boost sight my breast is healing nicely . The finish line is in sight, only 3 boosts to go!
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LaurieKaiser, I was told the same thing when I asked about the Canadian protocol. Now, at halfway through I'm trying to figure out how to go out in public with DDD's and no bra. I *was* a bralessly happy hippie chick in my youth, but the girls just don't hang the same anymore!
I've been fighting exhaustion and have gotten some nausea/lack of appetite. They've put me on Zofran. They claim I *shouldn't* be nauseous! but oh well. I've lost 14 pounds in the last 2 weeks: it's now 5 weeks since stopping chemo. That taxotere sure causes edema! There was a lot of water in me, but I don't know if it was THAT much. If I don't stop losing weight they'll have to remap me.
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The Domeboro is drying, but that helps the itch when it looks like poison ivy blisters. Nurse told me to use 3 Xs a day using cool/room temp water, but also moisturize even though that sounds contradictory. About the braless look, I bought an indoor swing style lightweight jacket/sweater (knit cotton) that zips up front to the neck. I wear a T-shirt tucked under the tender girl beneath the jacket. I probably look like a walking gray blob, but oh well. I'm doing things my way. Nobody has noticed.
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TB90 & Holeinone Yes it is like PTSD .Problem for me is I can't deal with my own chit just yet. We are waiting to find out when hubby goes for tests to see if he has cancer. We've been waiting for the call since Feb 1st. Sucks, can't make plans. It is just too much to deal with. We are both so stressed out right now.
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70charger,
Sorry to hear that you have that added stress of hubby's health issues. Seems like you have waited long enough, but I know certain centers, or insurances just do not function like I think they should/would.
Had my survivorship meeting with oncology nurse practitioner. It was good.
Hope all of our group has a good weekend, not too painful or itchy...lol...
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I just started rads on Monday, Feb 17, but this is my second time around. I had IDC (left) and rads in 2010 and now DCIS (right). I will have 30 treatments so I'm hoping that when I'm done on March 28, the weather will be more Spring-like! We had crazy blowing snow this morning on my way to tx. I have the same rads onc and I like him very much. He's quirky but very smart and caring. My field is smaller this time since he's not radiating nodes or supraclavs so I hope to have minimal SEs.
Thanks for letting me jump in this group! Gina
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Today is 2 weeks post last radiation and am happy to report things are mostly back to normal. Last week was a bit rough - the radiation techs, nurse and RO were exactly right in that my skin got worse the week after my last radiation. It was really dark red and tender and dry and I lubed up the boob a lot. Last Friday the dark, "dead" skin started peeling. It didn't hurt at all - very much like what happens with a sunburn. By Monday my skin was really fading back to a more normal color. Today, the nipple has a little of that dead skin to be peeled and the entire area has a very slight pink tinge with the darkest part (although not really dark at all) under the arm and on the side.
Yesterday and today I'm wearing a bra for the first time in weeks, been mostly using tank tops under shirts at work. It's a very un-sexy, plain, no underwire but soft bra from Target. Comfy, but rubs a little under the arm, really not bad though.
I used up the last of my Miaderm earlier this week and am using Eucerin at night and Lubriderm with SPF 15 during the day to ensure I always have a least a little bit of sunblock on that area. Of course when I wear a tank top or bathing suit I'll be slapping on the old SPF 30+
It does get better ladies! My lumpectomy scars are looking good and in fact that breast is rather perky looking in comparison to the unaffected one
Keep truckin' and happy Friday!
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just finished my rads on feb. 6, 2014. My RO said NO MAMMO's until a year from when I found out my BC, October 2013 So that's when I will have a mammogram again. It would hurt like HELL if I had now or next month or so. My RO said my breast will take atleast 6 weeks to 6 months to heal completely. I would wait.
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3 treatments down 17 to go. I'm already a bit pink. The tingling is weird when I get my treatments. Might be the strange position they have me in - lol. I really don't have anything to say. Just hi!
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One Week Partial Breast Treatment Update:
I had my 8th treatment this afternoon; only one more on Monday and I am done! If I had started on Monday instead of Tuesday (President's day) I would be done now.
It is a bit more pink in the area, I have a bit more
swelling and it feels like I have a sunburn inside more than out. Tonight it feels a bit itchy as well. They said I could take some ibuprofen but I haven't needed it yet. I lined my bra with the Curity cover sponges they gave me (basically soft paper) which also keeps the Calendula cream off the bra. Because the area radiated is about a third of my breasts (I'm a sizebehind my nipple I can still wear a bra comfortably. The sunburn feeling has always been a bit worse after the afternoon session so I am kind of glad my breast gets 2 days off this weekend to recover.
RedReading I also got the tingly feeling right after the treatment so I guess that is normal.
We've been eating at various restaurants around Beacon Hill every night. The weather has been pretty lousy, so mostly we stay in the hotel on our laptops. The cancer resource center gave us free tickets to the Boston Museum of Fine Arts so we will do that this weekend and maybe catch a movie.
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exhaustion is my primary symptom. I also have a hard time during the winter with depression (lack of sun) . without estrogen I feel down. guess it's a triple dose of "downers." But I try to stay positive. I have wonderful support. my breast is healing beautifully from the surgery. The cancer was found early thanks to a mammogram. I love the idea of "healing rays" from Teamkim. This is the first time I've been in a chat room and I love what all the ladies are saying. Seems that we are intelligent, inquisitive women who are strong. Good job ladies!
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They shouldn't be telling you what you should or shouldn't feel (nauseousness). You have the symptoms and they need to help you deal with them. I would like to lose weight but it sounds like you don't need to be thinner. So I'll send you good energy for feeling better. stay strong, sister.
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Did or does anyone use Bag Balm? My MO suggested it for chemo hand&foot syndrome but I just heard that someone had a marvelous response using it during radiation.
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MinusTwo -- Bag Balm? Never heard of it, but I love the name!
Welcome Gina -- we are a radiant bunch, and we are all in this together. I hope you find support, some laughs, and special understanding kindred spirits with our group.
LaurieKaiser -- You nailed it! We are smart, strong, compassionate and just amazing. And we are all in this lousy journey together, which makes it a bit more bearable.
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Farmers in Iowa have used bag balm for chapped hands lots. Many others do, too. I think it was originally ( way back) developed to sooth the udders of milk cows.. I think I see a similarity here!
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Lol Mimi & Minus Two. I wonder what that might be? Really though, it sounds good, I'll have to Google it.
Donna, you feeling better today? We are having a pocket party for your surgery, so wear something with lots of pockets so we aren't too cramped, please.
Laurie, let's face it. We are just a wonderful bunch of ladies. We're darn near perfect! Lol and once again, welcome.
Aeryno, good to have a report from someone who has finished. It comforts me to know what to expect. Turns out I hate surprises now. Lol
Hi Gina, happy you found us, sorry you have to be here.
3 of 16 down, then 4 boosts. (cdn protocol). So far, I am fine. A little pink, but I expected that, I always burn when exposed to sun, so... I am already tired though. Didn't expect that until week 2. Might be all the pills too though. I've been on Tamoxifen for almost 4 weeks now. And Gabapentin and Effexor. And I've started taking Calcium every morning too because I worry about rads and my bones.
Hi Kim, hope you're doing okay. We all love you and thank you for starting this wonderful thread. {{{{hugs}}}}
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sometimes only half listening is good !! I thought I was having 33 full rads but when I just finished 19 the RO told me just 6 full ones left and then 8 boosts . Yeah me I was happy lol !! So far my skin is good but my muscles on the rad side feels wacky !!!!
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Supposedly you can get Bag Balm at Walgreens & CVS. Been around since 1899.
Something else that I'd forgotten about - Healthy Hoof. I used it years ago and it worked wonders on my nails & cuticles. Developed for - you got it - horses hooves. Now my nails are really brittle & peeling & splitting from chemo. I dug out my last jar of cream and will start it again tonight.
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OK: Hate to be difficult, but I do not think I want to put these lotions on my chest with names like Bag Balm and Horses Hoof, or whatever it was. Lol But this takes me back to an ointment from my childhood that came in a round tin that was the cure for everything. My DH is trying to remember the name right now but neither of us can recall. Had a menthol kind of smell. I think it would work for me just for the memories. Should try to find it if it still exists. Mentholated Ointment! That is it. Go figure. Does anyone else remember this one? It was probably sold out of a cart pulled by a horse (using Horses Hoof)!!
Had my first two treatments last week and of course, have no SE's yet. I almost bolted out of the first treatment as I am having radiation by choice/option as my breast surgeon did not believe that I needed it, but said in my situation, she could be convinced. Blah. So I agonized over this and almost chickened out at the last moment.
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TB90 - I did read that study that suggested it might not make any difference for women age 66 plus with very early stage 1. It was like they were talking about me. It sounded like they were saying the chances were just as great that some other problem was more likely to present itself and harm us as cancer recurrence. But we must remember that those are group statistics and not individual. My doctors never considered not recommending radiation, and in fact the surgeon said if a lumpectomy then radiation was important/necessary like they were married. Since my mother lived to be 94 and died of Alzheimers my financial advisor seems to think I need to plan to live a long time. Keep up the rads and certainly don't jump off the table while it's buzzing. I'm on day 3 past my last treatment and the itching is letting up. And I have an excuse to sit quietly and not do anything that might injure my fragile skin! I'm not using Bag Balm - but they sell it everywhere here and the farmers swear by it.
The radiation machine reminds me of puff the magic dragon looking me in the eye from one side and then swinging around to look at me from the other angle. So I called it Puff. The techs laughed and told me they always call it Ursula. I don't know why. Night all.
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TB90 Watkins medicated ointment. Round green tin, sold door to door by Watkins salesman. Now available at most farmers markets, at least here in Alberta. I buy it all the time as hubby uses it for chapped lips everyday.
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70Charger: That is it!!! I see you are from Alberta. Perhaps it is a prairie Canada thing. You can still buy it. Wonder if it would be good for radiation? My DH and I would love to get our hands on it. As a child, it was used to cure everything. I can still smell it.
Mimi: I had a mx for dcis and radiation is almost never used following a mx for pure dcis, however, I have a small positive margin and sometimes radiation is recommended for this. It is still not clear cut. My BS felt the chance of recurrence was still very small, but some studies suggest that radiation is beneficial. It was agonizing. But rads it is.
Good nite.
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First congrats to ladies that have completed rads this week! I have a question about blood counts. I never had a blood count before surgery or rads. Last week my pain doc said no injections without a current blood test. I just finished week 3 of rads. No major side effects other than a pink tinge and freckles above my breast. My blood count values are off. Our hospital posts your test results online. Would radiation affect some of your blood values to lower? Fatigue has gotten bad now. Is that due to low blood count scores or is that due to radiation. My onc doesn't say much or offer info. You kind of have to ask a specific question. I don't even know if he got the test results. After this week I'll be glad to get back to my own doctor. Surgeon is the same way. You have to probe to get questions answered. They almost seem to assume that you innately have all the knowledge they do. I don't know how much is getting radiated. It's supposed to just be my breast but I'm getting a suntan under my armpit. Anybody ever had a blood test during rads?
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Hi Gina and everyone,
I haven't been on in a couple weeks so much to catch up on!!!
I am right behind you on Rads. Mine was delayed 2 weeks, yikes, I forgot an appt. and weather pushed me back another week. I started Feb19th and have 30 rounds. So 27 more to go!
I have started on Tamoxifin and boy the HOT FLASHES are crazy!!! Every day 2-3X a day. Side effect.
I am only able to get 30 tabs at a time. Is there anyone ordering on line for a 3 -month supply? Is ths possible?
I had bloodwork 2 weeks ago and my counts are still a little low. So more protein in store.
Love you gals
XOXO
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