February 2014 Starting Chemo Club

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  • Summerwheat
    Summerwheat Member Posts: 86
    edited February 2014

    Hi, it is so helpful reading your posts, as most of you have already had the first chemo session. Mine is probbaly next Thu (I want to get started with it and not wait any longer), CTH as it looks like. I had the port put in on Wed, and yes, that was a painful little surprise. I am green and blue in the area now, totally bruised, and my whole front looks like a rag doll, stitched up, between c-section scars, mastectomy and lymph node excision scars, botched biopsy, mole removal and now the port .... great. Getting a short haircut today - my DH was sweet and asked whether he should come with me, but I'd rather suck it up by myself, and then off to the wig shop I guess. I have to face the realities. I looked into getting coldcaps, but aside from the price tag, it seems to be kind of a pain to deal with them and with hairwashing etc. If I had long beautiful hair, I might do it, but I don't have that to begin with, so why even bother. My kids are probably going to freak out a bit, but we will deal with that. I have decided to take off from cancer stuff for the weekends as much as I can, and will go to a stargazing event with my son tomorrow, and on Sunday hopefully for a hike with a friend. I am 3 weeks out from UMX, and my BS told me to be careful and not go to the gym or running yet, so I have to go hiking to get out all of my energy.

    Hope everybody is having a non-eventful day. I am trying to not think about the chemo start next week too much, but will buy Claritin and Metamucil (thanks, Lago, for all the good tips). I am sure that I will have many questions once I have started, but right now, I am just plain scared of the whole thing and try to not think about it too much (which does not work, as it occupies most of my waking time somehow, at least in the back of my head).

    Alexandra

  • KAT4856
    KAT4856 Member Posts: 67
    edited February 2014

    I am 57 years old

  • Curlylocks
    Curlylocks Member Posts: 1,060
    edited February 2014

    I am 49...will be 50 in May.  I was 41 when first diagnosed with bc in 2005.

  • MicheTheVanquisher
    MicheTheVanquisher Member Posts: 105
    edited February 2014

    I'm 56.

    I was terrified of the chemo. I'm usually pretty tough but the port, though the surgeon did a good job with no problems, kicked me hard--well it looked like my horse had kicked me in the chest! 

    Then the chemo on 2/12. I was terrified and it wasn't nearly as bad as I'd thought--or at least it took a couple of days to get to the worst immediate after effects and I guess you never know but I had a headcold already and I certainly don't like the SEs but now that the headcold seems gone and the neulasta flu symptoms are gone I don't feel terrible. Even went to a Thai rest yesterday and had the blandest softest food on the menu which tasted pretty good (though I couldn't help drooling over DHs hot curry).  I guess just as you feel better they whomp you again, and again and again....

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    Scared of your 1st chemo... True story

    Last year in I think it was January I met this somewhat local gal here on BC.org. She was petrified of chemo. Petrified of losing her long hair. We chatted a lot. She ended up getting a 2nd opinion with my onc so I met her and her husband there. Her husband told me that she basically wasn't talking to anyone. He said when she saw me her eyes lit up. 

    We chatted. See I'm about 10 years older than her but we actually look related. She saw my short hair and thought it looked nice. Well she did make it to her 1st chemo and she was really scared. She made it through and it doing well... and has decided to keep her hair short just like I did. It looks so much better on her. Her mother who was also upset about her losing her hair told her not to let her hair grow out.

    It's the unknown that is scary. Chemo is not like you see on TV. It's not what you grandma had. They have decent drugs for most SE. They may not be able to do much about being tired or taste changes but most of the other stuff can be dealt with. And if you're like me you'll find something that tastes good.

  • Mor
    Mor Member Posts: 30
    edited February 2014

    lago....how nice to read your upbeat words.  Glad you are here with us.

    Mor.   

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited February 2014


    Ahh Lago...thanks ((hugs))

  • Gardengirl66
    Gardengirl66 Member Posts: 93
    edited February 2014

    hi , just turned 48 in January , 

    Lago, I am just curious how do you feel a couple years clear of your treatments ? Just hoping bc is still not the center of my world, and a new normal is found.... I tell my kids that it will be back to normal next year ( fingers crossed ) .

    Lago , thanks for all the info, it does help ! 

  • Macintx
    Macintx Member Posts: 118
    edited February 2014

    So now that so many of you have started your chemo already, I have a question.  The PT can only get me in for my initial evaluation for my cording issues from the AND on the afternoon after my first AC treatment.  My chemo appt is at 9:30 starting with the usual blood tests and meeting with the MO, then chemo.  They say it takes about 2 hours total for the appt.   The PT can see me at 1:00.  Unfortunately, they only have one lymphedema/BC specialist on staff right now so it's hard to get in.  So, my question is do you think it will be ok for me to take this appt?  It seems most people don't start to feel SE's til after a day or more.  If I wait until later in the week (after my Neulasta shot the next day), I'm afraid the SE's will kick in and I really won't feel like driving over there.   FYI- the appts are across the street from each other and only about 15-20 min from my house.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    Gardengirl66 I am 3 years past my final chemo treatment. While I do have some stiffness from Anastrozole in the morning and probably some other stiffness but I am older, have gone through chemopause so some of this is normal. Sure there is minor residue, but it's all part of me now. I know we all age so if it wasn't breast cancer who knows it might have been something else. But over all I feel good. Just yesterday I was on the bus sitting with this woman in maybe her early 40's. We met at the Chicago marathon but she actually lives in my building. She was complaining about her company hiring young people to save money or get a fresh perspective. After I said they are not all that way she then she goes on to say that some of the old people in their 50s and 60's don't want to learn new things and new ways. I chuckle and say "You know I just turned 53 a couple of weeks ago." She was really surprised. Thought I was in my 40's and I don't think she thought 39.

    Once you get through all this it takes time to stop thinking about "will it come back." I would say 2 years post BMX I moved on from that. Aug 31 this year will be 4 years from BMX. I come here to help others. It isn't about me anymore. It's about how my journey might helps someone else. But remember 1 year after BMX I was still doing Herceptin and not finished with my reconstruction. Also about 1 year PFC (Post F_____ chemo) my hair texture was returning to normal so that really helps too. That really did help.

    Now eventually I will land the full-time permanent job. You won't see me around as much but I will never leave this site. You can always PM me. I do get those sent to my email so I never miss any of those.

    Macintx I don't know about Adrymicin but as far as my chemo regiment I would say no problem. Better to do it before the Nuelasta kicks in several days after you get th at.

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited February 2014

    Lago:  You are too sweet!  

  • purpletron
    purpletron Member Posts: 9
    edited February 2014

    I'm 40, and feeling pretty okay after my first TC. Just slightly sort of hungover maybe, and I did have a big nap today...

    lago, per your anxiety advice: my BS did give me some Ativan a while back, which I've mostly only used to get through my first dental treatments in mumbleteen years (miraculously only 2 small fillings!) -- but I did take one on the way out of the door yesterday as I could feel the panic rising. Still, I'd like to think some of the bravery came from within as well :)

    I had been warned but wasn't really prepared for how uncomfortable the ice mittens would be for the Taxotere. I hate being cold, but this was actually damn painful at times, especially about ten minutes into the second pair when I was alternating between cursing up a storm and giving myself flowery peptalks (all in my head, of course). But it passes and/or you adjust, and I'll definitely try to stick with them through my remaining treatments.

    Now, just wondering if & when the big SEs will hit, and slightly dreading giving myself my first Neupogen shot tomorrow. But trying not to dwell on it.

    Have a nice weekend, ladies!

    p.s. Macintx: again, different regimen here, but I would have been totally fine to go to another appointment yesterday.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    purpletron they don't use the ice mitts here in the states. The nail issues are a more rare SE but... I got it and really badly. If you want some photos of my finger/toenails from back then to motivate you to keep wearing them I can provide some. They are not pretty and not for those with weak stomach. I my worst SE after the 1st tx were heartburn, constipation and the back pain from Nuelasta day 6 & 7 after chemo... but everyone is different.

    kjiberty and like you aren't ♥

  • grammyb
    grammyb Member Posts: 11
    edited February 2014

    Hi everyone..I am 5 days out from my first AC and 4days from my first nuelasta shot. I am so very thankful for very minimal SEs. My biggest complaint, and I can't really complain is being very tired. Today was the first day I didn't nap. I too was so frightened of the unknown.  Has anyone else developed a runny nose?  About working during treatment, I think it is so very individuualized....type of job, hours expected, are you able to leave if you hit a wall.  For me, I am a 911 operator/dispatcher....I must be completely awake and clear headed. We work 12hr shifts and I can't just get up and walk away from my position. For now, I'm very thankful that I have short term disability.  

    Nancy

  • Alli_FLA
    Alli_FLA Member Posts: 84
    edited February 2014

    Hi;

    37 years old, stage IV metastatic in spine and now liver. Will be starting chemo next week. I will also be part of a clinical trial so I may have SE's from the trial and chemo.  It's possible that I may get a placebo in the trial so SE's might not be so bad. 

    Good luck to everyone. 

  • Njmom3
    Njmom3 Member Posts: 143
    edited February 2014

    Hi macintx I am on the adriamycin and cytoxen cocktail and I was ok till the evening of the next day. They put steroids and other happy meds in your cocktail so you will feel fine that day.  I would grab that appointment.

    Next week is number 2 so I am half way there with my first part!  Hope the new meds work for me!

    Love all your encouragement Lago!

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited February 2014


    Hi Grammy-I've had a runny nose too and the tip of my nose is sore as well.

     

  • grammyb
    grammyb Member Posts: 11
    edited February 2014

    Luckily my nose isn't sore, just drippy. Hope you don't get to sore!

  • Summerwheat
    Summerwheat Member Posts: 86
    edited February 2014

    Thanls for the encouragement! I feel less scared now. I did get the 1 inch haircut & ordered a wig, so that's done - now I want to get started to get this journey going. Good night ladies, and thank you for all the help, you are amazing. 

  • Xrayalli
    Xrayalli Member Posts: 237
    edited February 2014

    I start my chemo in mid March, I've been reading the posts here, though. Everyone is so upbeat and positive. I hope everything goes well for everyone. I just have to single out Alli_FLA from a kindred Alli, best of luck to you with the trials, I hope you cure and beat this out of you :)

  • princessrn
    princessrn Member Posts: 370
    edited February 2014

    I am 47 soon to be 48 in March.  I am 2 days post chemo and still doing ok.  I seem to have a bit of headache.  No appetite.  I am drinking well.  I have taken a few of the Zofran for nausea but not really had any to speak of, more cramping.  I had my Neulasta shot yesterday and took the Claritin too.  We will see how I go along today. I could not sleep last night.  Unsure if it is the steroid or what.  I took a pain pill and a xanax and still up the entire night.

    Lago...  I added Fibercon and Colace and am moving ok.  I am hoping the Claritin works for me.  Like you no real nausea, more cramping.

    Macintx..  I had what I would say was pretty severe cording in my arm.  I saw the LE PT and she said that it would probably self resolve and that the chemo would help?  Odd right?  She was dead on!  A HUGE improvement in my arm, amazing really.  I hope the same for you as you start.  Also that first appointment is an eval only in general and minimal teaching of techniques.

    Purpletron.. I wanted to do the mitts and footies but I have Raynaud's and can't tolerate the cold on my extremities.  Good luck!

    Summerwheat..  I cut my hair off, about 16 inches. I left one inch or so but plan to shave it this weekend.  I love my wigs!  Lots of fun.  I am not trying to hide my illness just look decent through it so I have fun!  I got a long long one and a short sassy one and wear them as my mood fits.

    Pbrain...  I am not sure why we were different.  He pulled out a handy handy spread sheety thing from some place and was saying that the recommendation is TC every 3 weeks and H every week for the initial cycles and then it was possible to go to H every three if I tolerated the increased dosing.  I was expected to fall in the mid range.  The you-have-to -make-a-choice range of 0.5cm to 1.0cm.  I fell right at 1 when it was all said and done and I wanted to be aggressive. 

    My husband did not make it in last night related to weather.  He will be coming in today and we are still hoping to go to the ballet.  I will be trying to get a nap.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

     Alli_FLA welcome to ghe 2/2014 chemo club. I am an old timer that was invited in. So what do they have you taking? What is the trail? Have you gone over to any of the stage IV threads. The women there are very knowledgeable. There are some things that us early stagers just don't know. Granted I've learned a lot from my stage IV sisters (a few close friends) but not even close to what they know. Make sure you get some guidance over there too. BTW I had a friend that lived 21 years. Lots of new stuff now so hopefully that cure will come soon so you can have another 50 years or more.

    princessrn moving is good. I did move slower for several days but I moved with no strain. That's OK. Many women do get Herceptin weekly during chemo. Technically you are getting more because they can't give to high a dose every 3 weeks. 3 weekly doses is a little more. I have read it's actually better to do it your way just not as cost effective. My onc says any tumor over .5cm gets herceptin. You made the right choice.

  • megomendy
    megomendy Member Posts: 141
    edited February 2014

    Xrayalli, I recognize you from our March chemo group. I've been lurking on this February group, since they are a month ahead of us. I always like to know what to expect. Some of my friends say to stop reading or asking so many questions, but I really do like to be informed, even if it is scary sometimes.

  • Summerwheat
    Summerwheat Member Posts: 86
    edited February 2014

    princesses: your DX and treatment appears to be similar to mine ... I had a Stanford prof for a second opinion, and he suggested weekly Taxol and Herceptin only, but I went for the more aggressive treatment, I am 43 and want to keep this cancer out of my body. 

  • Macintx
    Macintx Member Posts: 118
    edited February 2014

    Megomendy, you tell those friends to back off!  I have learned so much from these threads.  One of the main things is that everyone reacts differently to chemo, everyone has a little different experience with their surgery, etc.  It helps to know that what we will be facing, even if it is scary.  Asking questions is the best thing you can do!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    Megomendy you will know when it's time to take time off from the threads, if there is a time. I have had friends that needed to leave for a while. Just don't let other people's issues scare you. Remember that most people post about issues not the other way around. I was so scared to take anastrozole (generic Arimidex) because of all the SE I read on there threads... more scared than doing chemo. I am now finishing up my 3rd years. Most of us really do get through all of this fine. 

    And the one thing I have learned being diagnosed is: you don't understand until you go through it yourself, not just cancer diagnosis but just about anything. There is no way they can understand that. So just ignore. It's your journey not theirs.

  • Gardengirl66
    Gardengirl66 Member Posts: 93
    edited February 2014

    lago, a big thank you for all your valuable information you have shared. For me , what you just shared about your last couple years , gave me a sense of calmness. It helps me reaffirm I will do this, that my whole life will not be BC. A gradual process that will change and evolve. So thank you so much, your words have picked me up ...was feeling a little down the last few days. ... Maybe because the hair is falling out now . The intelligent /logical part of me just knows it has to happen, it does not hurt or stops me from doing anything ...but it  tells the world that I am dealing with cancer...no more blending in. 

    Purpletron ,glad you are doing ok ...the ice mitts and slippers is what I am not looking forward to again, that was painful.... But doable .

    Megomendy  my surgeon recommended this site and a couple others, his advice was just do not google it ...he said at the end of the day he would be confused and stressed if he randomly googled bc. I am glad he recommended this site ...I have gotten so much help from here and info. Some days I take a break ...to clear my head.... But only someone diagnosed  with a serious health issue gets it. I love my family and friends ... But Sometimes you do not just want to hear "stay positive"or "you look healthy"... This place has been great.

    Thanks again Lago! Hugs

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited February 2014

    Gardengirl:  I had 4 tx of TC and my S/E's kicked in about 48 hours later; To tell you the truth, I considered myself pretty darned lucky with my S/E's.  They were fairly minimal.  Sure nothing tasted good, I had diarrhea at any given moment, a little neuropathy, insomnia, listlissness, but I just kept telling myself and others who had travelled the same path that I WOULD get through it.  I would just concentrate on 12 hours at a time.  I was fortunate to be able to work while going through chemo as my job is partially work from home. I took the day of chemo off, the day after (then had the weekend) the maybe one more day each tx.  I would nap when I needed too Problem was I was tired but COULD NOT sleep.  Hang in there, LADIES!  I can't tell you how quickly the time went.  I kept telling myself after each tx, I am 25%, 50%. 75% etc. done. Not everyone has horrible S/E's; try not to prepare for the worse.  As LAGO as said, some people only post what their complaints are.  Remember, Life IS good!

  • Gardengirl66
    Gardengirl66 Member Posts: 93
    edited February 2014

    kjiberty , thanks , I think I really needed a little venting and  a little reassuring. The first week was mental tough on me ,my son (10 years)and my mum (83years)on different days  both ended in emergency with chest pains... All tests for both came back good , and was put down to stress  ( worry about me). I had similar side effects as you...was never nauseated (so far). Next week (Friday) I go for #2, half way ! So the last couple days was just wondering about the next couple months and where I might be in a year or two. Thanks for your reassurance , it is nice to hear from people who understand , as we try and figure out our new normal. So far I have decided not to work yet, lucky to have sick days, so I am using them, to spend a little more time around home for my two kids (and parents )Maybe work odd days in the next few weeks  or not ...wait and see.

    Thanks again , hugs

  • Sicilian
    Sicilian Member Posts: 49
    edited February 2014

    Did the TC on Thursday and the Neulasta yesterday. Some stomach issues, feeling a bit wonky. Getting hot flashes and rapid heartbeat. And oh glory day, the bone pains just started about an hour ago. Refused to sit inside any more. It was in the 50s and sunny here after being snowed in for almost 2 months. Went to an outdoor mall and walked around. Felt wonderful to have the sun on my face.

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