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  • lorreymom
    lorreymom Member Posts: 149
    edited February 2014

    I can't remember the exact article I was reading.  It was a study on pubmed that I came across while searching for something else & now I can't find it again.  But I did find this good summary article.  We have eaten broccoli every dinner since.  LOL.  I am going to turn green, I think.  

    Broccoli & Breast Cancer & Taxol. foodforbreastcancer.com/foods/broccoli

    Edited to add this link...not the exact article I read, but along the same lines (cannot find the article...bugging me)


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21151478/?i=3&from=paclitaxel broccoli

  • Leealice
    Leealice Member Posts: 87
    edited February 2014

    Day 2 of chemo 4. Not feeling bad just really tired although my red blood cells are the lowest they have been- 3.2 so that could be some of it.

    Count it all joy-glad they are adjusting your chemo and hope it goes better for you this time. I was so scared of the red devil and it's the taxotere that gave me all my bad side effects

    Leealice

  • Jodi040812
    Jodi040812 Member Posts: 383
    edited February 2014

    i tell myself those survival rates are old stats.  Even if they did a study last year, those results wouldn't be out for four more years.  And, i like to think that "survival" means no reoccurance.  That they don't count if anyone needed chemo before that  5 years.  Doesn't mean you know;).  My girls are 9, 5 and 1 (14 mths).  I will fight to be here as a grandmother too!

  • jackieak
    jackieak Member Posts: 169
    edited February 2014

    on my drive home tonight, car in front of me had license plate " 1 boob" with a pink ribbon on it.  No getting away from this crap...I personally would not want this on my car...I hate the ribbon and I have her beat, lost two boobs, have two foobs....very tacky and made me want to scream!  I want this behind me forever, not a reminder of it daily on my car, or everyone knowing I have had this dreadful disease...is it me being grumpy?  I wanted to get out of my car and grab her and say WTF!  

  • lorreymom
    lorreymom Member Posts: 149
    edited February 2014

    My favourite story is from a friend.  He was diagnosed with a rare form of blood cancer.  Docs gave him a 15% chance of survival past 1 year.  It took him several months to process this, even going into a depression.  Then one day he snapped out of the depression, determined that he would be one of the 15%.  He has been cancer free for 8 years now.  This is a true story of a personal friend. 

    The mind is powerful!  Statistics are just statistics.  I too WILL be one of the success stories!  5, 10, 15, 20 and more years.  This will not beat me!  Be a success with me!! :)

  • kjfromca
    kjfromca Member Posts: 283
    edited February 2014

    Holli - I am on douse dense Taxol every 2 weeks.  I have completed 2 rounds of it.  I find that it is so much easier on my stomach than the AC.  I feel a little prickly in my toes and finger tips sometimes.  I find days 3-5 the roughest, but did with the AC as well.  I think a lot of that has to do with the Neulasta shot.  I take Claritin the day before the shot, day of, and day after if I remember.   The treatment outcome with both the weekly and douse dense are equal as far as my MO and I are concerned.   I decided to try douse dense knowing that if it got to be too much, I could go down to weekly.  Also, I am able to take the Neulasta shot, which you cannot on weekly.  Not that I like the shot at all, but it helps keep my wbc counts up.  

    Mary - I don't understand all this chemo stuff.  I found the AC bad enough, I can't imagine adding one more drug to that.  I hope that this douse change gives your body a break.  

    Lately I find that I am scared to be on the chemo, but I am scared to be off of the chemo.  The longer that I am on it, I worry about my organs handling it.  Then I worry about going off the chemo and not having that cancer fighting juice running through me.  

    Kim

  • DJJ
    DJJ Member Posts: 229
    edited February 2014

    JackJeak,  I am right there with you.  I am on a rampage against the pink ribbon.  It didn't bother me at first but now it makes me cringe and then blow up with rage Devil.  My friends and I are walking the Avon Breast Cancer walk in DC, two weeks after I finish chemo, so they may be pushing me in a wheel chair for part of it.  Anyway, we are wearing my favorite color, green, there will not be one shred of pink on my body.  We will stand out like sore thumbs in a sea of pink, but that will make me happy Smile

  • kimie06
    kimie06 Member Posts: 215
    edited February 2014

    here, here... to the hate for the pink ribbon, no pink ribbons here either, I don't want a tshirt I don't want a hat, I don't want any jewelry and I sure as heck don't want it on my license plate....I know it may sound harsh but I too don't want any reminders.. Funny thing though years ago I used to have one of those pink ribbon magnets on my car to support BC... 

    Taxol #2 was yesterday, so far so good.  But I know some crappy days are coming.  So far I still have some eyebrows and lashes, what about everyone else. 

  • Mikesgirl17
    Mikesgirl17 Member Posts: 260
    edited February 2014

    I hate pink ribbhons too.  I had Taxol #2 yesterday and it went well.  They cut the steroids and bendryl in half and I don't seem to have much of a headache and got some sleep last night.  It wasn't until 1:00, but I'll take it.  I have been using my home made ice packs with fleece covers to wrap my hands and feet during infusion.  Everyone looks at me like I'm a little crazy because no one else is doing it.  My MO just laughs at me.  She came in the infusion room yesterday and I showed them to her and said that everyone would be doing this soon.  And she laughed and said "You're going to make so much money selling those."  I look at it like this.  If it's not going to hurt, but might help why not do it.  Knock on wood, I don't have pain or pins and needles anywhere.  I have also always chewed on ice chips during infusions (Even with a/c) and I have only had a couple mouth blisters.  Kimmie, my eye lashes are thinned, but my eyebrows are just sad.  Very sparse and patchy I almost want to shave those to just because I hate seeing them go.  I took a whirlpool tub bath when I dot home yesterday to sweat out the toxins and I think it helped.  Have a good day everyone.

  • RHGSR
    RHGSR Member Posts: 774
    edited February 2014

    kjfromca - thank you for the Taxol info. That makes me feel better. 

    Mikesgirl - can you post a picture of your homemade ice mitts?

    I too hate the pink. I got those hot pink shoes I wear to treatments. But I think I said before... I'm gonna have a burning of them when it's all over. A cleansing of sorts :0)

    Last red devil tomorrow!! Yes!!

    Holli

  • kimie06
    kimie06 Member Posts: 215
    edited February 2014

    I did get a tattoo when I was diagnosed, doesn't involve a pink ribbon will post a pic shortly...

  • babyduck
    babyduck Member Posts: 63
    edited February 2014

    Hi Ladies....new to your thread. Getting my port put in this Friday and wanted to read about some that have plowed the way before....

    I've never been sick much. Never had the flu....sick stomach...so a tad nervous not knowing. Your comments help alot. I will do AC then Taxol...

    Did any of you work? If so how much? I have talked to some who have and some who say don't if you don't have to. I like being busy and active and thought if I can I'd like to. Any input would be appreciated.

  • Mikesgirl17
    Mikesgirl17 Member Posts: 260
    edited February 2014

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    Here are a couple pictures of my home made ice packs.  The ice packs are 1 and a half cups rubbing alcohol and 3 cups water.  Double bag a gallon Ziploc freezer bag.  I bought enough fleece to make pouches that the ice packs just slide in. I left enough fleece on the lip so the ice pack wouldn't touch my skin. Then I wrap my hands and feet and secure with safety pins.  I initially made 1 ice pack for a foot injury so I already had one.  I hope this helps:)
  • jackieak
    jackieak Member Posts: 169
    edited February 2014

    love the icing tools!  I have the mitts I bought, I didn't wear them last week but will for sure Thursday, I felt some tingling in my left hand yesterday, so I'm taking my mitts from now on.  Lashes are thinning, I see some bare patches happening, brows seem to be better but I have bushy brows anyway.  I'm hoping my hair keeps growing, we will see.

    So far after first taxol round I have had night sweats, achy back and ribs, tingly hand, bad tastes, and thinning lashes...which are all more tolerable than AC and the fatigue, nausea, heart palpations, and General feel like crap feeling.  Ready for round 2 tomorrow, best to all with chemo this week!  

  • kjfromca
    kjfromca Member Posts: 283
    edited February 2014

    Jackieak - Well that's one way of keeping people from borrowing your car, put "One boob" on your license plate.  

    DJJ - Do you have a team name?   Last Oct. for the Am. Cancer Society walk,  we wore black t-shirts with a white outline of a buck.... we were team "Save the racks."  My daughter and daughter-in-law designed the shirts, we had a lot of guys walking... The girls did have a pink ribbon hanging off of the antler.  They knew at that time that I am not a pink ribbon girl... but they threw it in anyway.   I have a funny family.  I got a lot of laughs just listening to their team name ideas.

    My eyebrows are getting pretty thin, my eyelashes were sad to begin with and have no curl to them.  Even with mascara they won't curl.  Going to a friend's 50 Bday party Sat., hoping they hang on.

    Kimie & Mikesgirl - Hope you have an easy time with this round.

    Kim

  • kimie06
    kimie06 Member Posts: 215
    edited February 2014

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    Got this just after diagnosis... Inner right Wrist. The anchor reminds me to be in the moment.. And the present... No pink ribbon tats here 
  • Jodi040812
    Jodi040812 Member Posts: 383
    edited February 2014

    i am on the fence with pink!  I hate it sometimes, but wear a underarmour shirt that saying "quitting is not an option".  It fits my fight.   I do not want to walk away and forget.  I am still pissed.  I plan on being that constant reminder to all my friends and family to go every year and get checked.  Since i go dx, i have had over 20 people go get checked.  So, if i have to keep some pink to remind them- I will!  I do not want anyone to have to go through this.  If they get it, maybe i can help them catch it early.  Many of you caught it early, i did not.  Hopefully, i can wesr pink and never have to fight for the pink ribbon ever ever again.  This is my prayers for all of us!  Never forget- but never again!!!!!!

  • chicopeach57
    chicopeach57 Member Posts: 166
    edited February 2014

    I told my daughters (24 and 21) that I didn't want any pink shit in the house. Then their step mother sends a gift with save the TaTas magnets, fight like a girl pillow and stuff like that. Have to put it out or I seem rude. They laughed at all the stuff.

    I have always had wimpy eyebrows and eyelashes and I wear glasses so no one seems to notice they are slowly disappearing.  I hate the pubic area looking like an 80 yo woman, half bald! Shaved the rest.

    What is amazing to me is that two of my older sisters have not had mammograms in six years and still haven't gotten one.  One sister doesn't have insurance, but is trying to get some now. The other has insurance that will pay for it and she still hasn't.  Go figure.

    The taxol has my bowels all messed up! Tired of managing side effects. I'm still working, only take Friday off for chemo, except for two days when I was sick.  Staying home would drive me crazy!

    Hope everyone does well with this round, think about ya'll often.

  • DJJ
    DJJ Member Posts: 229
    edited February 2014


    Kimie, I love the tattoo.  I never wanted a tattoo but now I want one.  I'm desiging it now.  It's going to be Boudicca the Warrior Queen that fought back the Romans.  It's going to be BIG under my left arm and her sword is going to be raised above her head and cover my lumpectomy scar, guarding it from reoccurance and there will be NO pink in it. 

    My eyelashes are gone.  I think each eye has about five left on top in the corner, none on the bottom.  I have become an expert with eyeliner and I save the fake eyelashes for nights out.  Each eyebrow, which are thick to begin with, have one thin spot that I fill in and you can't even tell.  But I'm still losing one here and there.  I've tried to make a deal with my body.  "Go ahead and take my eyebrows, but give me my nose hairs back."  It didn't work, I would give up the eyebrows if the nose would stop dripping.  Shocked

    Babyduck,  I started chemo Dec 6 and haven't missed a day of work, except for doc appts. and chemo.  My MO is all for me having a normal life.  I just am careful and stay away from sick people, wash my hands a lot, hand sanitize and I don't touch door handles. I have a desk job so when I don't feel well it's no biggie for me since I sit all day.  My co-workers are careful around me especially if they have a sick kid or a cold.  Now that I'm getting more tired and I still have 9 more chemos I may take some time off here and there.  I also maintain my workouts in the gym (although slower than normal) and I sanitize the bike or whatever before using it and I never touch my face at the gym. 

    Kim,  We have been playing with names for our group.  It's only three of us so our favorite name so far is "The Triple Nipples" Winking.  We also like "The Boob Crew".  Our shirts will be black with green writing and we will wear green tutu's, even the man in my group is wearing the tutu...

  • Blessedw2
    Blessedw2 Member Posts: 16
    edited February 2014

    Jackie- lol on the pink ribbon attack!

    Jimmie- I still have eyelashes and eyebrows, although thinned. I am suprised to still have hair on my arms and legs. Taxol # 2 tomorrow.

    Holli-- yay on your last red devil!!!

  • charusa
    charusa Member Posts: 107
    edited February 2014

    I wish this forum had a "like" button after each post it would make it so much easier to go back and comment on each and every one of you that are celebrating something...no SE, last AC's, last chemo and putting meds away, a good night sleep, energy, no problems with taxol, and countless other things only we can understand that are celebrations for us!!! I believe my taxol is going to be every 3 weeks times 4 rounds and the only change is that I have to go in earlier because it takes longer than the AC. I am still on schedule for the nueltstra shot. I have already made up my mind that the first sign of neurapathy I am done with chemo. I am 59 years old, single and I want to maintain my independance along with my life. Being triple neg is scarey but knowing that my tumor has already shrunk where it can not be felt gives me hope that after whatever else comes, surgery, rads...I will come out clean for a long time yet. I just don't want to go through all of this to be a cancer survivior and be a victim of something else as a result of my treatment. Does this make sense? I am already noticing how much more short of breath I am....I used to smoke a pack of cigs a day but I walked 3-5 miles 3-5 times a week and at least a mile every day with my dog and I was never this short of breath...I need to sit down after making my bed...I know I have also been laying around way to much b/c I won't go no where b/c my panic/anxiety disorder is getting worse but I intend to start changing that to build up my stamina somewhat but I really believe some of it is the result of the AC. I need to be done so I can take care of my grandbabies (14,12,3, and 11month) so my daughter can get started on her treatment.

  • count_it_all_joy
    count_it_all_joy Member Posts: 130
    edited February 2014

    Very cool, Kimie.  The idea of getting a tattoo scares me more than chemo, but good for you!   ;)

    Kim, the buck t-shirts and the name is the best I've heard!  Even a guy can wear that one, and people will just think he's a hunter, unless he chooses to tell them otherwise.  Hope your eyelashes hang in there just a few more days!  If you don't have one, I would recommend buying a small slanted eyeshadow brush.  Black eyeliner and then a thin, smudged line of black or very dark eyeshadow does really well to give the illusion of lashes.  (if you already know this or already doing it, you can laugh at me, but I've never worn much eye shadow, so this was a happy revelation to me last week when my lashes were looking pathetic! :)

    RHSG - yay on the last red devil!  flush that stuff through as quick as you can!

    babyduck - welcome to the group, tho sorry you have to be here at all.  you'll find it a good place to not feel alone in this.  as supportive as family and friends are, there are questions they can't answer and feelings that it's hard for them to hear over and over… thank God for these ladies.  

    No chemo for me this week.  My daughter came home sick from school yesterday, and last time that landed me in the hospital for 5 days with a virus & fever.  I'm a little bummed at my second delay.  I should be getting #5 this week, and instead I'm not even getting my #4 til next week.  listening to some of you ladies traveling and working… do your neutrophils drop to zero each time like mine, and if so, I'm really wondering how are you keeping your routine going like you do?

  • Crazywabbit
    Crazywabbit Member Posts: 563
    edited February 2014

    kimie, you are a brave woman. I am way too chicken to get a tat. 

    I also hate all the pink stuff, close friend gave me a pink  wrist band, so I have to wear it whenever I see her. Otherwise I feel like a walking advertizement, bad enough to advertize with headscarves and turbans but no PINK STUFF. 

    Tomorrow is Taxol #2, that means 10 weeks of chemo done and 10 more to go. The half way point.  As long as taxol goes good tomorrow I am planning on going back to my  office on Monday for 3 half days a week, I have just been telecommuting to avoid all the sick people who come to  since it is a primary care medical office with three docs.  If my counts go down really low later with taxol I will take off a few more weeks.   Good luck to those getting chemo tomorrow also.  

    Friend dx recently with small stage I  IDC, only 37 years old, onc score moderate so she started CT today for 4 cycles.  Way too young, she found it while still breast feeding her third child. I will see her when she stops by the infusion center tomorrow for her neulasta shot. Warned her today to start claritin ASAP.

    Barbara

  • RHGSR
    RHGSR Member Posts: 774
    edited February 2014

    Barbara - that sounds like my story. I'm 37. Found my lump while breast feeding my third. I think it is the same with Jodi (correct me if I'm wrong Jodi). It seems this is happening a lot. I'm wondering what the link is. I always though breast feeding helped with prevention. 

    Holli

  • keepthefaith
    keepthefaith Member Posts: 2,156
    edited February 2014

    love reading all of your posts! I had a really good nights' sleep last night! I would almost venture to say I felt refreshed when I woke up! Right now, except for feeling like I ran a marathon when I do the littlest things, I am doing pretty good. I am learning that I will have to pace myself...ugh.

    my eyelashes are hanging on, thank goodness! DD and family have been sick this past week and it kills me that I can't go help her right now. So hard that it affects so many aspects of our lives.

    I guess Pink is for some and not for others. I am just not one to publicize my life, but kudos to those of you whom it works for. Whatever it takes to get through. I applaud those of you walking, etc. Fight on!!!

  • dragonfly45
    dragonfly45 Member Posts: 25
    edited February 2014

    Hi all- it has been a while since i posted anything.  Everyone seems to be doing great!  i also do not like the pink.  I do have a pink turtle neck that i wear to keep my neck warm, other than that no pink ribbons anywhere. 

    Babyduck.  I had a hard time working after my third and fourth A/C treatments.  i had the treatment on Friday and took Mondays off.  The fatigue was my biggest problem, I missed the whole week after the fourth treatment.  I started Rads on the 10th and have worked everyday all day long.  So far no problems.  7 down and only 23 more to go!

    I am patiently waiting for some hair to grow back.  My eyebrows are sparse and the eyelashes are a sad state of affairs.  I vowed to ware mascara everyday even if i only had one eyelash!  I wear scarfs at work as my wig was too uncomfortable (my hair hurt).  My hair doesn't hurt anymore but now it seems weird to wear it. 

    Charuse,  i am also triple negative.  Scary stuff out there, but hang in t here we are a unique group and the earlier caught the better we are.  Yours was 2cm , that is small.  I went to Dana Farber for a second opinoin on treatment as my Oncologist was unsure of a treatment. It was decided that we would do the A/C and Rads.  Everyone tells me i am free of Cancer but the treatment is to give me better odds of it not coming badk.  I definately do not want this back. 

  • Jodi040812
    Jodi040812 Member Posts: 383
    edited February 2014

    RHGSR- almost right!  38 at dx and I turned. 39 the day before BMX!  3 kids and just had the last one.  I think she saved my life!  I heard if you find a lump it could have been there 8-10 years!  This last baby is wild!  And she kept hitting my right breast!  It hurt and I found the lump.  I do agree there are more 20-39 getting this.

    Anyone changing food like organic?  I really have a poor diet.  Meat and potatoes and pasta shame.  Need more green and colors;)

  • jackieak
    jackieak Member Posts: 169
    edited February 2014

    love the tatto, very inspirational.  So many young women getting this disease, it's quite frightening...I am 51 and thought that age is too young, but 20 and 30 and 40 year olds is really too young.  I commend you ladies with young children to also care for...we are women and hear us roar!  My kiddos are my biggest support team, ages 26 and 29 and are always wanting to help me, my man is of course the best as well ( also named Mike).  I have a great business partner and staff at work, all very caring people, and also know I don't like to dwell on this and keep my life as normal as possible.  Off to drink some H2O I'm forgetting to do this while on Taxol and know it helps...have my mitts frozen and ready to go, blood draw done and good to go...

  • DJJ
    DJJ Member Posts: 229
    edited February 2014

    RHGSR,  I was 41 at diagnosis, 42 now.  I've been eating organic for 10 years and I've been working out my entire life.  It doesn't run in my family.  I was doing everything right and still got it.  I will continue my healthy lifestyle in the hopes it doesn't come back.   

  • Mikesgirl17
    Mikesgirl17 Member Posts: 260
    edited February 2014

    I was 34 when first diagnosed.  It was d.c.i.s.  I had a double mastectomy so I wouldn't have to worry about it again.  6 years later (almost to the day) I was diagnosed again.  This time with triple negative.  It doesn't run in my family.  I have 4 sisters and I'm the youngest.  I breast fed both my girls.  The breast with the cancer was always sore from the first time they latched on.  That nipple was always cracked. I hated breast feeding, but did it because I wanted my babies to be healthy.  I truly wonder if all that trauma led to bc?

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