Winter 2013-2014 Rads
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TeamKim - you can get Domeboro at Walgreens and CVS Pharmacy. It's near the hydro-cortisone cream but ask the pharmacist to help 'cuz it's kind of hard to find.
Those of you just starting you'll be surprised how quickly it goes. 2nd boost today and 5 to go!
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I wish there was a "like" button on this site. Team Kim - consider this a like for all the care you take in responding to people. Call around about Domeboro before you start driving all over the place. The pharmacy only had one box, but will order more for other ladies. I'm searching for more to take to Arizona for me after treatment. There are `12 packets in the box, but you can use it three times a day. I got up at 5 am and used it since my treatment is at 11 and I wanted to be sure it was far in advance. But it sure helps.
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I have my dry-run appointment this afternoon and then first treatment tomorrow. Nervous! Argh.
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My dry run is Monday and first treatment is Tuesday. Good luck tomorrow!
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Is there anyone else here who is having rads to an unreconstructed chest? (It seems most ladies here are doing post-lumpectomy rads).
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Lojo, I am! I've been noticing the same as you have -- most rads posters are post-lumpectomy. I had my simulation last week, and my first rad appt. is 2/27. I'm doing 5 weeks and am probably doing a larger area than you since I had lymph node involvement (chest, axillary, supraclavicular areas, possibly mammary nodes too).
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Lojo and Bec65- Yes, I had a bilateral mastectomy, unreconstructed, and 1 lymph node involved. The MO and RO felt rads were important because of the 1 lymph node. I just finished my 28 rads on Monday. I had absolutely no problem and wish the same for you. My skin turned a reddish brown from midline across right chest and underarm and an inch or two on top of front rib area. I had no burning or blisters and no pain. If I didn't look at my skin or lube the area 4-5 times a day I never would have known I was undergoing rads. I had no real fatigue until the last few days. Since I am retired and not working I only wore a bra twice in the 5 1/2 weeks and then only for an hour or 2. I saw no reason to take any chance of irritating the area when in this cold weather I had a heavy cardigan on anyway and no one knew or cared that I was braless, me included.
I could be totally wrong since I have only my own experience to go by, but I think the lumpectomy gals have a harder time with rads because of all that breast tissue and tender nipple area that are getting radiated. PLEASE don't overstress about the whole procedure. I was a nervous wreck about it the first couple of days, but after that it became routine, the rad techs were wonderful, I was only there 15 minutes most of which was undressing and dressing and lubing up. I put that cream on thick in the dressing room a minute after I got off the table! Good luck!
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Thanks peaches - that does help to know. Bec65 - I will have the chest, scar and supraclav done - no axilla. The RO suggested the supraclav because of a few isolated tumor cells in the sentinel node - not enough to qualify as a positive node though. Good luck!
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Lojo and Beck65: I start rads to my left mx site (no reconstruction) tomorrow. Receiving 25. Peaches, thanks for your reassurance. I was starting to get myself worked up, but your experience helped. I woke up and thought to myself that today is the last day before I poison my body. I have worked so hard since the dx, lost 25 lbs. work out daily and my cholesterol went from very high to just above normal. I have loved the transformation (wished that I had one this earlier thought), and now have to but this body though rads. But I gave myself a good talking to and have decided to view the rads as healing rays that will rid my body of any possible rouge cancer cells. And I will be purchasing fresh flowers tomorrow to brighten up this dismal winter in Manitoba. Lojo, Beck65 and others. I will be following your paths and wishing you all the best too. Let's go girls!
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Finished radiation today 30/30. Happy!!!! Hubby and granddaughter came. My granddaughter helped me ring the bell 3 times to show I was finished and we cheered. Let the healing begin! Prayers of thanks and prayers for everyone else on this journey!
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Risteadman - congrats. And congrats to everyone else who is finishing this week. If I go back a page I'll probably loose my post, but I know there are others.
Week one done. Weird when you start on a Thursday. I had reconstruction 2-1/2 years ago after original BMX and my radiation is for recurrence w/node involvement. Coming after two different chemos and axillary node dissection I sure agree w/the "poison" comment but I'm told I'll get another 25% protection w/radiation.
Reporting on what I have learned the first week: I guess I have to drop my control issues and just look at this as my current job. One day they took me 15 min early. The next was 30 min late. Today there were machine problems so it was 1-1/2 hours late. I was given a shirt today that the hospital guild makes. It looks sort of like 'scrubs' but has velcro down the front & both sides. It's an alternative to gowns so you can come straight from home to the room. I'm too cold so I'll give it back for someone else to use.
I will see the RO every Wednesday. I will have new X-rays taken every Thursday - I guess to make sure we're on track but there are no tumors left to see, so who knows what they're tracking. I did see the mapping and the graphs today. Really interesting. The plastic piece that covers my chest is called a "bolus" to draw the radiation closer to the skin because I had a chest wall recurrence and skin is considered part of chest wall. I'll have that every other day for 2 weeks, and yes it will supposedly burn the skin worse than regular beams. I do have nine (9) zaps (or beams) with EVERY treatment - some super clav, some whole chest, some with cones to focus the rays. I forgot to ask her today what they were focusing on. I do know they will be hitting all level 2 & level 3 lymph systems.
The damage to my right lung will hopefully not be more than 25%. Of course that's on top of my years of smoking. I'm using Miaderm and also have 100% Aloe Vera gel. I may add Aquaphor on top like TeamKim is doing if the skin gets bad. Thanks to whoever recommended a throw away shirt. Once I put on the lotion, the 5 colors of permanent magic marker on my skin bleed onto the shirt.
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Red & Algranna, how did your first rad treatment go? Are there any other new radiants out there? My 1st rad was today, very fast, in and out. I go to the Norton Cancer Institute which is in downtown Louisville KY and they even have valet parking which is soooo nice. I also work downtown so I go straight to work after that. Hoping I can keep working thru all of this but there are so many UNKNOWNS. One thing for sure, this disease will teach you how to be flexible!
Red, were you in Louisville for the KY Derby?
I gotta ask . . . What is a pocket party? I'm guessing its an imaginary party for us lovely ladies where there's lots of smiles & hugs & an overall feeling of peace & love! (I am from the hippie generation, can you tell?) And since its in apocket, we are all the size of Polly Pocket dolls and can jump in anytime we want to. Also, since we all have pockets, we can carry our sisters around with us. I promise I am totally sober - just trying to find some beauty in all of this. I could be all wrong. Would someone let me know?
Goodnight everyone, and God bless ♥♥♥
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TB90, I love your idea of healing rays! That puts a different spin on the whole radiation thing. I like to visualize things in a beautiful way and I would rather think that way while I'm laying on that table.
Thank you for your insight!♥♥♥
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Sbp1952...I think you have the gist of the pocket party. It is all of us cheering you on....hopefully not too loud that we get strange looks.
Miminiemi and Rlsteadman congrats on being done! Pocket party!
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Hi SBP. You almost have it 100% correct about the pocket party. The only part you are missing is that some of us have been known to enjoy a glass of wine or a beer. I have frequently heard the clinking of glasses and way to much laughter coming from my pockets. Lol. And they leave my pockets messy sometimes, but Kim taught me the secret - twirl around and poof, your pockets are clean again. You're totally right about the hugs, love and smiles though. And I know I feel more peaceful knowing my sisters are in my pocket whenever I have a big appointment or I'm scared or depressed. It's good to know you're not alone.
O and we go on vacations together too. The one who is going takes an over the door shoe holder, so we each have our own little space. ;-)
My first treatment was good. Not as quick as yours but pretty quick. Other than the tingling, I didn't feel anything. And I'm not at all pink or anything, but I didn't expect to be either.
As far as Kentucky goes, the first 2 times I was there, I had misfortunes. A car accident once (black ice) with about 40 other cars - strangely none of us hit each other, just ditches and road barriers and in our case the bottom of a bridge, backwards. The second time, the muffler fell off my car. I had determined not to go back at that point. But some friends were going down to golf and we thought ok. We had a great time. Last time was even better, the people were so nice and friendly, offering to show us around, recommending restaurants, it was super. That time we were just tourists! Had a blast!
About the appointments, I mis-spoke yesterday. First, I am 16+4 not 15+5. And second, when I looked at my schedule, I was appalled. They were all over the place, I'd never remember and it would really inconvenience work because they'd never be sure when I was going to be there and when I wasn't. So after my appt I sat down with the secretary. She not only changed my appts but the RO's too so they meshed with my new schedule. I get Rads every day at 3:00pm then go home. Except for once a week when I see my RO after my appt. My thanks to her for helping me work out a better schedule.
Well, I've written a book here. Better go have my bath and crawl into my beddy bye. Nite nite all.
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Sbp1952 - your pocket party description made me smile!
TB90, Lojo, Bec65 & peaches12- so nice to finally see more MX w/o recon - I didn't see any when I was going thru rads. I finished rads 1/31. I had 28 rads and 5 boosts for total of 33 - I was fine until last couple regular rads and the boosts. I did have skin break down (blistering & raw) under my arm at the end of treatment. That area didn't get the boosts so that started to heal, but then about a week after finishing boosts my "dog ear" also blistered and is now starting to heal. Don't be concerned though - it is perfectly normal and is nothing you can't get through. I worked thru all treatments. Domeboro didn't help me much, but dermoplast spray helped and silvadene cream definetly helped. RO also gave me these patches that helped. And i went thru lots of aquaphor! soft comfy cotton tshirts are a must! and be prepared to get them stained! You can definitely get thru it fine! I'm hoping in a week or so I can go back to putting my mastectomy bra & prosthesis on!
Congrats to all the radiant ladies finishing up! And good luck to all getting started - smooth sailing to all! Lana
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Welcome to all the MX gals -- glad you found us and weren't put off by the "Lumpies" populating our thread. Bec65, I grew up in the Sacramento area, and still have lots of family (including my mom) in Roseville.
RISteadman & Mimienimi -- Congrats on finishing and ringing that bell!! Partying so hard in your pockets right now -- do you need us to turn down the music? I think Red is in charge of entertainment! (((Hugs))) to you all!
Lana -- thanks for checking in with us. I am right at that point where the fatigue is starting to show up a little and I am getting a couple of tiny blisters -- I have 3 more whole breast and 5 boosts to go. I thought I was doing OK, but when I had my zaps today, the tech suggested that when I see the RO tomorrow I should ask for an RX for Silvadine, so I guess it looked worse to him today. Glad to know the Silvadine helped you. My tech said it would "calm things down."
Checkers and Mimienimi, I will stop by my local CVS to look for the Domeboro soaks. Thanks again for the tip; sounds like it would be soothing to do at night and in the morning before I lube up. I have been using Aveena Calming foaming cleanser in the shower, and it feels nice.
Sbp1952 -- you got the pocket party spot on. It's a fun way to visualize our support for one another. If you get a little nervous or scared, we give you a little virtual squeeze of support. Polly Pocket dolls!!! I haven't thought about those in decades! Lol!
Red -- the shoe pockets idea is hilarious -- I am getting a great laugh from you all tonight! I actually have a vacation coming up to share with you all. Once I finish my rads, I have a few weeks to recover, then DH and I am off to the east coast to see my DS play baseball with his college team. We will be there 9 days and get to see 8 games. I will slip some sunflower seeds and peanuts into my pockets for the party with all you Radiants! Hoping the weather straightens out so none of the games are rained out or snowed out. This winter has been a real adjustment for DS -- he had only even seen snow a couple of times in his life prior to moving to upstate NY for college.
Today when I was on the table, I thought of the healing light, and I imagined I was in Maui relaxing on the beach. I could almost smell the plumeria, could almost taste the piña coladas, and I almost went to sleep! The power of a positive visualization!!!
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Hi, I'm new to rads this month, on 8/33, last 5 are a boost. I am away from home staying with my sister in Chicago because I live on the coast of Maine, very beautiful but geographically a challenge for every day rads, she was kind enough to invite me to stay and light up her life for a while...haha.
I love reading the posts and congratulate everyone who is finished and cheer on everyone of us starting, in the middle, almost done. It's so encouraging to read and also comforting to know you are not alone.
I have taken to visualizing the garden soil being purified of weeds and just so fertile for healthy growth, that and some good music.
Some days are easier than others though and I find it a challenge to be so still on the table, I practically vault off it by the sixth buzz.
Some itching and pinkness that is worse when I am warm, so far so good. Best of luck and healing to all!
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Thanks to all for the pocket party to celebrate being done. Funny, when I was born weighting only 4 lbs ( 4 weeks premature) the newspaper called me "Vest Pocket Venus". Guess I've been a pocket girl for a long time. I learned more about Domeboro. Pharmacies generally stock it seasonally because it is considered a treatment for poison ivy. Now that they have learned it is helpful for the radiant lady itch it will be on hand all the time. So if not in stock, ask them to order it. Already today the itch is better. The nurse on last day warned me not to soak in a tub, go to a pool, or let hot water run on my breast until healed. All that can harm skin. Just gentle washing that girl by hand (not rough cloths) for best results. You are all headed for healing. I'm staying here to keep up with the news.
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Congrats RISteadman & Mimienimi on finishing!!
Been having a lot of pocket parties lately for everyone and it's a good thing I'm a seamstress because I may have to do some repairing! You ladies have to remember to take off your heels when you dance!
TeamKim - don't follow the directions on the Domeboro box. My RO say it's too strong using their directions. Instead dissolve a packet in a quart of room temp water. Dip in a clean wash cloth (2 for large breasted women) and squeeze out excess solution (wet but not dripping). Lay the wash cloth(s) over the affected area and relax for 20 minutes. The solution can be kept in the fridge for up to 3 days. I found I can do about 4 treatments per batch.
I have started to peel big time under my armpit and around the boost area and I'm deep deep red on the boost sight. I saw my RO yesterday and she grimaced when she saw my breast and apologized. She said I'm doing everything right but some women just have a worse time of it than others. She gave me Xeroform gauze strips that are medicated. I stick them to my breast over the peeling area and cover them with a sheet of gauze. Then I aquaphor the rest of my breast. Much less goopiness on my clothes and because the area is protected it stays hydrated better. Still doing the Domeboro 3 times a day and surprisingly, I'm not in much pain. At least nothing that ibuprofen can't help.
Only 5 more boosts to go!
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I need some information..i finish with my last radiation today..33,and with that 8 boost.Red and a little sore,but i can handle it so far,with medaderm,and aquafor,which i get from the Dr.I got a prescription,from the chemo Dr.and im suppose to start arimidex after radiation,and also a bone density scan.Ive tried to get someone from my reasearch nurses to get some answers,but ...no one calls back Do anyone of you have to go on arimidex when you finish...or a bone scan?????
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I am on Femera and had a bone scan -- have not started rads yet. The bone scan was done to get a baseline, kind of like when you get your first mammo. I expect I will have one every year for I do not know how long. I could be wrong on that, just guessing. I assume because cells can travel and metastasize (and the bones being in general the first place the cells would travel to), my MO likes to get a bone scan early on to get the all clear and then can compare with the next one, and so on. I did find out I had arthritis when they did mine. Congrats on finishing rads!! That is a huge accomplishment and you sound like you did very well. Gives me hope!
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Kayezzy,
It is standard for all cancer patients to go on either Tamoxifen if you are premenopausal or Arimidex if you are postmenopausal. There are exceptions, stage 0 ladies that had a mascetomy.
I finished rads 2 weeks ago, started Arimidex 5 days later. The bone scan is to give you a base line, as Arimidex is hard on your bones.
Your MO can give you the statistics for the benefit. In my situation, with lots of positive nodes, there is no choice. For some ladies, the benefit is so small, and if the side effects are horrific you might decide not to stay on it. So far, I cannot really say I notice anything. I'm still fatigued but that is to be expected.
There is an active thread on Arimidex ( Anastrozole, generic name ). There are other drugs that some ladies switch to if they do not like Arimidex.
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Kayezzy,
I finish rads on 2/26 and start Arimidex on 3/13. My MO says he likes to get the Arimidex started within 2 weeks after rads end. The bone scan takes less than 15 minutes and the table is much more comfortable than rads. The scan will determine if your bone density is within range for your age. This lets your MO know if you need to be watched more carefully for osteoporosis while on Arimidex.
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One Week Partial Breast Treatment Update:
I had my 5th treatment this morning, only 4 more to go. The first night I had the hot breast feeling which I cooled down with some fresh aloe leaves. Yesterday after I finished the afternoon session I could feel some tingling but after that nothing. I saw the nurse and doctor today and the only sign was a very slight pink in the area and very slight swelling below the nipple where I am getting the radiation. They were very pleased with how it looked. Otherwise everything is pretty much normal. They gave me some pads to put in my bra is my nipple gets irritated but I haven't needed them yet. I am wearing a very old soft cotton bra. I put the calendula cream (it looks more like petroleum jelly) on every couple of hours.
I asked why more people don't get this protocol and was told you have to be Stage I, no blood infiltration, no nodes and low grade ( I am a grade 2) to qualify.
So far so good. I will try to post tonight.
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Thanks for replying. I had surgery 6 weeks ago. I don't have to have chemo. I will try not to "should" myself. I had no idea how lonely it is to have cancer. People are nice but they can't relate. So this makes me feel better. You guys are also going through it all. I"m interested in the Canadian protocol of having 16 rounds of rad. I asked my radiologist and he said it wouldn't work with the "large breasts" that i have. seems strange. I've had six rounds and a scheduled for 27 more treatments. I'll just keep going.
I have estrogen receptive cancer cells so they took away my birth control pills which causes me to have tremendous mood flucuations. I'll be getting tamoxifen after rad. Is there anyone else taking tamoxifen? What is that like?
Be well ladies. I'm with you in spirit.
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One down, 27 to go. I think one of the techs has no other job than to tell me to hold still. I also didn't realize the marks for my supraclavicular nodes would be visible half way up my neck! Scarves, I guess. The nutritionist said no green tea during rads. Has anyone else heard this ?
Also, I am feeling a little flushed/warm in my face this afternoon. Normal? Unrelated? (I've stopped the tamoxifen for the duration of rads).
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laurie I've been on Tamoxifen since Dec 15th. The only thing for me is depression. Other than that , wouldn't know I was on anything. But boy is the depression ever deep on certain days. Oh I did have very small hot flashes, just a slight warming once in a while during the first 2 weeks.
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I finished my regular radiation this past Wednesday. I have received two boosts and have four more to go. I didn't have any major problems with my skin during the regular radiation (16 days). However, after two boosts, I am very red and sore--nipple area, under breast and in my armpit. I have been using Aquaphor and aloe. I don't think I will wear a bra after today until the entire area heals a little more. Any other suggestions? I'm so close!!! I've been looking forward to February 26th ever since I began radiation. I couldn't have asked for a better team and radiation oncologist. They have become like family and I'm sure I will miss seeing them. However, I know there will be many other ladies that will be around to take my place--unfortunately.
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70charger,
I am on Arimidex but, I think for a lot us the after treatment time is very difficult emotionally. The fight or flight response has been on overdrive for 7 months. We were dx at the same time. It will take time, and more time to get back to normal.
I have a survivorship meeting tomorrow at my cancer center. I hope they don't make me mad. Isn't that horrible to think that already? I am a upbeat person, but I do not like it when someone who has not been through this tells me how I feel. If I learn anything I will report back.
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