February 2014 Starting Chemo Club

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  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    Well this mac & cheese looks like it's a little lower in fat: linky

    princessrn also consider squeezing citrus (orange is really nice) or some of those powdered flavor drinks in your water.  Granted the powdered stuff either has sugar or apartme but this is only to get through chemo. Gateraide and vitamin drinks and soup counts too. Just keep it decaffeinated. Also note that coffee with caffeine may prevent cancer so I might cheat with that. I don't drink coffee myself.

  • princessrn
    princessrn Member Posts: 370
    edited February 2014

    Lago... thanks!!orange lemon lime all probably will help. I even drink purple water when I bike or run. Lol.

    And coffee sigh.  Just one Keurig cup in the am but some said it had a funny taste. I will have to see and report back. 

  • Boomer47
    Boomer47 Member Posts: 1
    edited February 2014

    Hi Ladies, I am having first chemo tomorrow Feb 17th and very nervous about side effects.  The teaching session on chemo tells you about everything that could happen to you during chemo and it is some overwhelming. I know not everyone has all the SE. I have long curly hair and haven't done anything to it yet. The idea of wigs is not appealing to me. Best wishes for smooth sailing  to all of you starting your chemo this month.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    Boomer47 remember you won't get ever SE. Also usually the first few aren't too bad depending on what chemo you get. I didn't do anything with my hair till the day it started to fall out about 16 days later. 3 weeks after my first chemo I was still not wearing anything although my hair thinned a lot. I got a wig but only wore it one weekend. Wore long scarves with big earrings the rest of the time. I decided to rock the look. Put on make up and everything. Strangers had no idea. They thought I was being sheik. Good luck tomorrow.

  • Curlylocks
    Curlylocks Member Posts: 1,060
    edited February 2014

    I had my first round of TC (taxotere and cytoxan) on Feb 11.  This is my 2nd breast cancer diagnosis - first was in 2005 (age 41) and now again in Jan 2014 (49).  I had 4 a/c and 4 taxol first time around.  I remember absolutely hating the "a" aka red devil....made me so ill.

    This first round has wiped my butt.  I had the neulesta shot on Wednesday afternoon and let me tell you....the pain and achiness was everywhere!  My face, my teeth, my head felt like someone was drilling into it, my shoulders, legs, back.  I had two horrible days on Friday and Saturday.  I am taking Claritin and two tylenol #3 with codeine at night for pain.

    How can someone have diaharrea and constipation in the same day?  Sorry too much TMI.

    I am extremely exhausted, forgotten how much this crap zaps the energy from you.  I have been taking 2 hour naps in the afternoon or I would fall asleep sitting up.LOL

    I had no appetite from Wednesday until this afternoon.  I have lost 22 pounds since my DIEP reconstruction surgery in December and post chemo treatment.  I did manage a protein shake today and an English muffin with peanut butter on it for lunch.  I feel a little hungry so will most likely get some dinner into me.

    Three more treatments....I can do this is my silent mantra....

    Hugs to all you ladies having a rough time:)

    Michele

  • princessrn
    princessrn Member Posts: 370
    edited February 2014

    Curlylocks...I am so sorry!  25% down next one makes it the half way point.  

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    Curlylocks Ugh back again. Sucks. Just to let you know the 1st Nuelasta is the worst. I couldn't even stand up straight on my 1st one for a 1.5 days.

    diarrhea and constipation in the same day... Yes that can happen if you over treat. I highly recommend Metamucil. I used it for constipation. I know it sounds strange that it helps both but it does. I have IBS so I can get either one (although usually constipation).

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited February 2014


    another thing I've noticed-my skin and hair are sooooo oily.

    Feeling so much better tonight than I have been, I hope this trend continues. Stomach is bloated though, even though I'm barely eating. I've got the chemo brain though, that is for sure. :)

  • grammyb
    grammyb Member Posts: 11
    edited February 2014

    Well, first round of AC tommorow......had my port put in on Thurs and I am still so bruised and sore I don't know how they are going to be able to access it. I do have a tube of lidocain that was prescribed for me, but I don't know where under the bruising the port is to put it on. Kind of nervous about the SE I may experience, but I think I am covered for all of them and hope I don't have to use most of them. 

  • DerbyGirl
    DerbyGirl Member Posts: 1
    edited February 2014

    hey guys-

    I'm new here too, I'm 41 so kind of young, diagnosed in December. Lumpectomy in January, port placement 1 1/2 weeks ago. Started TCH 4 days ago on weds, I was doing pretty well until... the Neulasta injection on Thursday. I've been in bed for 3 days, I'm pretty sure everything I'm feeling is due to that, not the chemo. Headache, bone pain, everything hurts. I took the Claritin, I've been taking norco every 4 hours but it's been really hard. This morning I'm going to call my doctors office and get some better advice. 

    But, I'm now actually able to get online and check the forums so things are looking up! It's been so helpful reading what is going on with everyone else. Overall I'm handling everything very well and trying to keep upbeat, but this Neulasta has not been my friend.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    tangandchris I had bloat too. This is a picture of me on chemo: linky

    grammyb If you can touch the port area just put the lydercaine there. Remember you won't get all the SE. Also most of us do just fine. Usually at infusion nothing really happens. Boring long day.

    DerbyGirl there are plenty of women here in their 40's. Hell I was 49 when I was diagnosed and most of the women on my chemo thread were younger than me. As I posted before the 1st Nuelasta is the worst.


  • Macintx
    Macintx Member Posts: 118
    edited February 2014

    I was wondering how you can tell that it's the Neulasta shot that is giving all the bad SE's rather than the chemo itself when you get them so close together.   I will have to do a Neulasta shot each time the following day, and from what I've read, I will certainly not be looking forward to it! 

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    Not everyone has issues with Nuelasta. Trust me you'll know. It's bone soreness, happens a few says after Nuelasta shot given and for me lasted about a couple of days the first time.

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited February 2014


    lago-haha!! That is what it feels like :)

    Today I'm feeling clear headed...thankfully!! I can taste a little better too :) I'm gonna go out in a bit and have my PICC line removed, I'm thinking I'll pick up a few chemo friendly things to eat as well.

    Thinking of all of you ladies today. ((hugs))

    Anyone else with the oily skin/hair?

  • Susan0522
    Susan0522 Member Posts: 5
    edited February 2014

    Hi Ladies,

    Getting chemo on the 26th with port insertion on the 24th.  Had a double mastectomy on January 9th with a really great recovery.  Reading every tip, trip and chat board I can.  Getting T/C for 6 cycles.  Had an oncotype of 9 but didn't want to go into the clinical trial to possibly opt out.  I figure if the "standard of care" is still chemo, then that is for me.  Not much of a risk taker! Good luck everyone, I wish all of us the best!

  • KAT4856
    KAT4856 Member Posts: 67
    edited February 2014

    Hi jujubee,

    I was diagnosed on 9/27/13. I have completed 4 Adrymiacin/Cytoxan treatments, one every two weeks. For the first three days after chemo I took steroids twice a day and I felt fine. On the fourth and fifth day when the steriods wore off I felt more fatigue and some naseau but I  just took it easy those days. Those were the days that I just watched movies and hung around the house. My recommendation is to drink plenty of water. I drank 8 eight ounce glasses per day. I also drank alot of water when they were giving me my chemo. I had to keep going to the bathroom but I truly believe the best thing is to drink alot of water. I brushed with a baking soda toothpaste and use a waterpik at night and I have not any problems with my mouth. I want to reassure you that overall the experience is not frightening it just makes you feel like you have a the flu for a few days. I did not find that each infusion got worse they were all about the same.

    Now I am completing 4 treatments of Taxol, one every two weeks. The only thing I have noticed so far is an achey feeling in my muscles around day 4 and 5, took 2 advil and felt better, also feel more tired but still able to work.

    Good luck

  • Macintx
    Macintx Member Posts: 118
    edited February 2014

    KAT485- Did you have a Neulasta shot after each treatment?  Glad to hear your SE's weren't too bad!  My treatment will be exactly the same as yours.

  • formydaughter
    formydaughter Member Posts: 213
    edited February 2014

    Happy Monday ladies!  I would love to be reporting that I'm feeling great a week out from my first chemo infusion.  But I'm not.  MO says that I'm having some delayed rxns, including nausea and constipation-diarhea.  After getting through the allergic rxn to the Taxotere, my worst nausea day was Friday.  So miserable that I couldn't even distract myself with the Olympics and Netflix.  They keep trying to change my meds for nausea - after IV Aloxi (which is supposed to last 3 days - I think mine did), I've been on Zofran, Compasine and Ativan.  That changes to Zofran, Ativan and Zelexa (expensive anti-nausea to take at night to sleep - though the medicine is used also for schitzophrenia, so my ins. won't cover it because I do not have any mental health coverage).  Then my MO added in a sea sick patch for behind my ear.  Today he has switched me to going back on the pre-chemo steroid (Dexa), with Ativan, Zofran and keep the patch on.  I am miserable.  I begged for more Aloxi, but was told that it would not help this far out from chemo.  They plan to give me Emend next time.  I find it interesting, dancetrance, that you had both Emend and Aloxi together.  I will ask about it.

    My constipation/diarhea is just that - this morning I was constipated, finally able to go, but it strained, hurt and bled.  Within an hr (Before I could get back to take a Colace), I had gripping stomach cramps with 3 or 4 diarhea BMs during an hour.  Took an Immodium.  I feel like a should be really done with this by now.  And do not want to feel this way again!

    I had all these grandious plans for my antibreast cancer health diet...lots of dark leafy greens, no soy, etc.  But at this point, that's out the window in favor of the BRAT diet and jello, trying to keep something in.  I even bought "mom's popcicles" and hope to keep my daughter out of them so that I get a few.

    On a lighter note - sahars - funny that your daughter died the tips of her hair!  What do people use to do that?  Anyone know if it works on wigs?  I'm thinking that rather than just trying to match my look, it would be fun to have a wild look too, with blue or pink dipped ends.  Seems that the hollywood judges on the singing tv shows do it.  Would be fun!  If anyone knows what you use, where you can find it and whether it works on wigs, please share.

    Happier note - I had an acquaintance friend contact me when she heard of my DX.  She shared with me that her twin sister went through this a year ago.  She brought her sister over to visit and she gave me her wig - she ended up not needing it after all.  I could see the love in their eyes as the two sisters talked about the wig shopping trip, making things special, naming the wig "Jameson" (after the model name), and getting through the year.  So, I now have Jameson.  Not quite my style (I'm long blonde curly layered hair and Jameson is brown chin length straight haired bob), but I am so grateful for the support.

    Lettinggo - you do not need this man.  You are stronger than you know.  You may have been thinking that you needed him for support for a number of things and that he gave it to you in the past, but I would not be surprised that upon reflection, you realize that it was YOU all along providing the strength and support and not him at all.  I have been there.  My ex-husband left us without warning when my daughter was 5 mos. old.  Just up and gone.  Through that, I was forced into learning that I was stronger than I gave myself credit for.  After healing from that, the next man that I thought was wonderful (enough to make a part of my daughter's life) ended up being a toad - selfish, narccisist, a taker - yet with his charming ways, he had me convinced that he was wonderful, kind and supportive.  But when I took inventory after a devastating break up (he called me at work to tell me that he had been cheating on me for months (with the new women standing there on the phone with him)), I came to realize that he was a succubus - taking my energy, feeding off of my generosity, eating my strength, and really gave only a few crumbs in return to keep me going, hoping that there was more.  I am so glad that he is not around now, as I need my energy for healing me and taking care of my girl.  Ex-badboy man does not deserve your energy, generosity, or caring for.  While you thought that you were getting emotional support from Ex-badboy, I wouldn't be surprised if really the emotional support came from within you and he did not give - only took.  You are strong.  You are a worthy recipient of all of your strength, caring and compassion.  Take this time to build you from within, and cut yourself a break!

    Thank you ladies for your encouragement and support, and sharing.

      

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited February 2014

    I had a Neulasta shot after tax's 2 through 4.  The only S/E I had was a fever two days later.  I did take the claritan.  Don't know if it helped.

    Curly:  I am sorry you have to go through this again.  

  • formydaughter
    formydaughter Member Posts: 213
    edited February 2014

    tangandchris -  I have not had oily skin/hair, but I have a bunch of red sores appearing on my face that are like open blemishes or chemical burns.  Anyone else have that?  My skin is usually blemish free, so this is weird.

  • h0pe
    h0pe Member Posts: 125
    edited February 2014

    I started noticing mild acne on my forehead...strange because I don't usually have acne. Hope everyone is starting or will start feeling better soon. 

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    formydaughter I too had emmend in pill form day of, night of and morning after chemo. It's $$$ so that's why many insurances want to puke your stomach out before they agree to pay for it. I hate insurance companies. Have you tried Metamucil? It's supposed to work for both diarhea and constipation. It was what worked for me for constipation. Colace didn't do shit for me.

    I have heard that some people do get acne. The red sores thing is something that I would contact your onc about. That might be an allergic reaction. Granted even if it's just acne you should tell your onc EVERYTHING.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited February 2014

    I developed terrible acne on my chin during chemo (I rarely EVER have acne).  My onc advised gentle cleanser only - Cetaphil.  I switched to it then and still use it - really like that stuff.   The acne went away within oh maybe 4 to 7 days...can't recall exactly but it didn't last long and only occured after my first chemo, I think.  

  • Xrayalli
    Xrayalli Member Posts: 237
    edited February 2014

    Having my port put in tomorrow along with my axillary dissection. Has anyone had Taxol for 12 weeks then AC every 2 weeks for 2 months? 

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    dancetrancer I have been using Cetaphil for over 35 years.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited February 2014

    It's good stuff! 

  • Msguera5
    Msguera5 Member Posts: 9
    edited February 2014

    Yes, I am starting my chemo this Wednesday. 4 rounds  1 every 3 weeks. I also have had a bilateral mastectomy with reconstruction. Thank God I have the expanders in and they are filled. I was supposed to have the silicone implants in by May but now with Chemo that changes everything.  I haven't cut my hair in two years, and now I am going in for a a short pixie cut. I will keep you posted of how I am feeling. Good luck and God bless you.

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited February 2014

    Msguera5:  Sending hugs your way.  It's the fear of the unknown that gets most of us before chemo.  Losing my hair was really the most difficult thing though out my chemo journey.  

  • anickellsworth
    anickellsworth Member Posts: 3
    edited February 2014

    Thanks, Melrosemelrose!  Hope everyone has a good day!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    Msguera5 if  your hair is that long you can make a "hat's with hair" out of it. I too had shiny straight hair in a  long bob almost touching my shoulders. I'm actually wearing it shorter than when I had it cut for chemo. A lot of us don't go back to the long hair. I was told that women who have hair like mine find losing their hair the hardest part. I laughed and said I was more concerned about my eyebrows. They actually just thinned on chemo. So while most women find it hard some of us do OK with the hair loss knowing that is temporary. BTW kiberty looks stunning in a pixie.

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