Winter 2013-2014 Rads
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Hello Ladies!I had my mapping yesterday, and found out I begin rads next Tuesday, Feb. 18. I will have 16 rads (about 3 weeks) because my RO said I meet all the criteria for the higher dosage in a shorter amt of time. This rads procedure started in Canada and my RO said it is being used more and more in the U.S. Is anyone doing this type of rads? Are the SE worse because of the higher dose? Seems to me that a higher dosage would be harder on the skin....
I would love to get some input! Thanks to all for sharing! ♥♥♥
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I line in Iowa USA. My RO presented both 16 or 33 rads. He thought 16 could possibly have slightly less desirable cosmetic result(orange peel effect), but felt they were equally safe for me. We decided on 16 as i am a 66 year old widow so cosmetic doesnt worry me much. I have 5 more to go and so far a little pink, a little itch, no orange peel effect. I too have my lumpectomy breast looking a little more perky than the other. Who would have thought!
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I'm in Canada, did 16 rads. No problem!
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Well - 1st one down. It took an hour this first time because they kept adjusting the position & taking new X-rays pictures before they started hitting me w/the death rays. I have a very picky RO and she wouldn't let them go ahead until they made the field smaller twice. I think they did five zaps but I'll have to count again tomorrow since there were so many other things going on. One batch goes to the clavical area - top of implant up to my collar bone. The other goes from mid line at my chest across to mid body line under my arm and from top of the implant to my rib cage. I knew they were concerned about the chest wall since that's where my recurrence came, but wow - that's a lot of territory. Probably should have ordered the 4 pack of MidDerm instead of the 2 pack.
Treated myself to a Grand Slam at Denny's when I was done.
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Sbp, I'm in Canada too and am also doing the Cdn protocol. I was told the amount of radiation for the shorter time period was worth it, the boob seems to respond better to more rads, less time than to less rads, more time. Hope this helps.
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Hello everyone. I am seeking suggestions with the use of aquaphor. I'm applying it twice a day but the feeling of it on my skin is driving me nuts. What shirts/ bras etc. have anyone tried that works for you please. Stains everything also. Thanks
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Holeinone, Thanks for clearing that up about the burning. Guess I need to ask for burn gel. Sounds like you had some bad skin reactions. I'm hopeful that shorter Canadian Protocol will result in less effects, but there's no real way of knowing if that will be the case. Seems they can't predict what reactions will be for a particular person.
Rlsteadman,
another new adventure with the boosts, hey? All the marks OK now? On dieting - the nutritionist at the hospital told me that while they don't recommend dieting during rads, she said that 1300 cal was OK if the loss is only 1/2-1lb. a week. Maybe you can ask if they'd let you do a diet if it isn't too restrictive? I'm not overweight, but after getting off ERT, it's hard to know if the pounds are going to come packing on. The nutrition aspect is confusing. A lot of things on the Internet say eat lots of protein. Some say antioxidants interfere with rads. Some say they help. My onc says doesn't matter - eat whatever you want - no special nutrients or supplements necessary. So I'm just mainly limiting cake, cookies, Dairy Queen (not too hard in the winter anyhow), and chips and cheese for the next few weeks and not plopping down in front of the tv at nite - danger zone because out comes the snacking when the tv goes on.
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Hi Everyone,
I had my fifth treatment today. (I'm having 33.) So far no SE's. I'm using Eucerin, because my sister used it and had great results with no burning (and she's a redhead). I actually started using it about a week before treatment started.
My center is in a fairly local hospital (30 minutes away), and I'm enjoying the ride through the country each day. The doctor, nurses and techs are very nice. I'm even going to be able to join a two day program at a health center in the same complex as the hospital. I'll probably have to push myself to go those two days, but know it will make me feel stronger.
It's nice to have this thread - I haven't yet had a conversation with any of the women who are going through radiation, because the techs see me coming into the waiting room and seem to be always ready - so I zip right in. Even if someone else is waiting, there's been no time for meeting one another.
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- jaybird - Aquaphor is what it is, a mess. I've only tried it a couple of times when I wasn't going out of the house, but used other creams that were absorbed by my skin and not like slathering a large area in gooey Vaseline jelly. I only bought it to try since it was inexpensive at the drugstore. I wouldn't wear anything if I was using it except one of my husband's old t-shirts, no bra. Sorry I can't really be a help to you. My RO gave me a list of creams to try and see what I liked and what worked for me. I am using Miaderm and occasionally Calendula ointment and 100% Aloe Vera. There are a lot of nice moisturizing medicated creams/lotions I'm sure your RO would approve if you tell him or her you don't like Aquaphor.
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I use Aquaphor only at night and then wear old t-shirts to bed that I plan to throw out after my skin clears up. The denseness of Aquaphor lubricates my skin and helps me sleep. During the day I use miaderm and the prescription antiobiotic burn cream "Ascend" (silver sulfadiazine) which the RO prescribed when my skin started getting severely burned. I'm now one week post-rads and my skin has blistered and is peeling. Very very sore under my armpit, my clavicle area, and nipple. It's not easy going to work every day with this underarm pain, but I'm loading up with ibuprofen.
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I had my first boost. The RO came in and checked the markings and they were fine. I am just going to wait until next week to work on my diet. I will be done with radiation and can really focus on it. So happy I am nearing the end of my treatment.
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Well, I got a surprise yesterday. I was supposed to get my sim for boosts but they were running late and told me they would just set everything up on Tuesday when my boosts begin. I said "Tuesday? My boosts begin on Thursday. I'm supposed to have 25 whole breast and 5 boosts". She said no I was on the schedule for boosts on Tuesday and went to double check. Yup, it's Tuesday! Low and behold my RO changed my doses and didn't tell me! I am having 23 whole breast and 7 boosts. Well, at least my underarm will start to heal sooner
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Happy Valentine's Day everyone.
Checkers - Interesting how we question even the good news. Congrats on being closer.
# 2 today. Down to 30 minutes today. I get a total of 10 zaps. Two are up at the super clavicle (collar bone & some neck). Today they covered my chest w/plastic for 4 or 5 zaps and said that will keep the radiation closer to the skin. Anyone else have that??? I asked if that would burn the skin more and the answer was "not yet". Then I have several zaps with a cone concentrating the rays. I won't know where it's concentrating until I look at the map w/my RO next Wednesday. 23 more to go.
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Hi everybody, got the call today. Rads start on the 19th. That's Wednesday!!! O dear. Ah to heck with it. I've read what you wonderful ladies have written and I'm not scared. I can definitely do this!
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Red - you can do it
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RedReading not to worry...I'm doing the Canadian Protocol too here in the U.S. After 2 weeks the biggest thing so far has been the nuisance of going everyday. No major side effects from the rads so far. Starting to get a bit of fatigue now mostly after doing a chore, and my chest wall aches a bit but I started out with a small rib fracture from bronchitis in the Fall. Worst thing was the simulations because of my spinal problems from laying with that cramped arm position for so long. Have a little warmth in my breast on and off, but with the way this winter has been, it's kind of nice to go out in the cold and have a built in heater!
Now it's just a matter of step behind the curtain, pop off the sweatshirt, get on the table and relax for a couple of minutes. Then it's out the door. Well sweatshirt goes back on first before going out the door! lol One more week of full breast and then a week of boosts. Don't know what to expect the next 2 weeks but they'll handle any problems if they come up. Nurse said to start using cornstarch now. Not using any creams so far. Just hoping that the simulation for that boost doesn't require you to lay for long in that position.
It was a such a nice surprise to get off the table and see a card and a big heart cookie laying on the counter behind the curtain on the table! Happy valentines day to everybody. Good news to hear some of you are getting to the end of treatment.
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Three more of 16 to go. Starting to get some minor skin rash and itch, but easily handled with the stuff mentioned by others. Thankful for the weekend to give the girls a rest before the last ghree treatments. I'm using something called Radiaderm and wonder how that is different fromMiaderm. I'll do a little research. Radiaderm is not greasy, just a cooling gel applied immediately. To those of you just starting, try to relax and enjoy the nice techs you will meet. Mine wrap me in warm blankets so it feels like a brief spa treatment!
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Just looked up Miaderm and Radiaderm. Miaderm is a moisturizer lotion. Radiaderm is a two step product with a cooling gel followed by moisturizer 3/4 times a day. Radiaderm comes packaged is individual application packets just like salad dressing! The cooling gel is water based and does stop the heat feeling for me. I can't say the moisturizer is my favorite, but ok. Interesting it is made up of lots of sunblock and can continue to be used for that purpose post radiation. Available on line from Walgreens. It's expensive, but I wanted to try it out. I'll have lots left over since I am doing 16 treatments and it is packaged for 33.
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Happy Valentine's Day, Radiant Sisters! I haven't checked in for a couple of days -- things got a little hectic with work, but it looks like all the Radiants are perking along.
MinusTwo, I am intrigued by how complex your set up is. 5 zaps per treatment -- that's a lot, but I suppose the fields are very precise to give you exactly the right exposure.
Red -- you got this!!! It will be easy peasy!
Miminiemi, thanks for the info on the Radiaderm. Miaderm was what was recommended by my RO nurse, and it has been working fine for me -- three times a day. Today the tech told me that I could add Aquaphor at night if my skin gets dry, but she said I am not dried out yet. Guess I'm juicy, lol!
Today was #20 for me. I have 5 whole breast and 5 boosts left. Going well -- I have a spotty rash on my girl and under the arm it is a nice reddish brown around the nodes incision. But the skin doesn't hurt and seems to be holding up. I get occasional moderate pain deep in my breast -- it only lasts a couple minutes and hasn't interfered with sleep so far. No fatigue so far -- and I have actually felt more energetic as this week closes out and I see that so few zaps are left.
Hoping all of you have a terrific weekend -- friends in the blizzard states, hang in there! Looks like a relative heat wave is on the way for the end of next week! Here is So Cal it was 80 degrees today -- makes it so stuffy to wear a hat, but I feel self conscious with only my little half inch of hair, so hats and wigs for now are still part of my wardrobe each day.
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anyone have radiation delayed due to infection or the opening of a wound after mx? Was any concern expresssed abotu the delay? How did you do?
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Done 23 /33 doing well except for my neck. Got a bit burned. I have been applying silvadene, however it seems that when I apply it it soaks more skin and start peeling. Is this normal?
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Kim, I am glad it is going well for you. I must say, though, that I am extremely jealous of your temps in SoCal. Expect a visit soon. We will only stay 2 or 3 months, and will be bringing 6 adults, 5 children, 3 dogs and 6 cats. Easy peasy!
In a crazy weird kinda way, I am looking forward to my rads. This has been going on for so long that to actually have a date is freeing somehow.
Mimi, are you on the Cdn protocol? 15 whole rads and 5 boosts? I would love to hear from someone nearing the end of that protocol.
Lily, are you part of a trial group or has the Cdn protocol become standard in your area. I know the US docs are lobbying hard for the Cdn. After 15 years of studies and results there is no difference between our method and yours. And no greater risk of recurrence either. I'm glad I only need 20. Yay me!
Have a lovely weekend Winter Radiants. In Ontario, it's a long weekend as we celebrate Family Day. I will so enjoy it!
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Hi Red: I start on the 20th but am receiving 25 treatments. Boosts are not generally given for mx. Unlike you, I am getting a bit nervous. I think I have been researching too much. My RO stated that as it can be more severe receiving rads to the chest wall, he wanted to stick with the more lengthy protocol. The condensed Canadian protocol can be harder on the skin, but I know I have seen others here complete it with minor if any problems. We will both do just fine!
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Yesterday I had my last whole breast rad (#28)!! I'm itchy all over the area, but doing well. I have 7 boosts to go! I'm ready to be done. I don't live as far away from treatment as some, but my 45 min drive each way is wearing me down. Hang in there girls! We can do it!
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Red - I did the 15 + 5.
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Juniper, was it ok? Did you get sunburned? Do you have fair or dark skin? My doc says no creams at all. How about yours. OK, I'm more nervous than I thought - TB90 girl I'm with you!
Mouse you've done 28? Omg. I don't know if I would handle that we'll. OK I'm sure I would stack it up in the back of my head with all the other chit, but I think that's scarier to me.
Biggest question I had was that I haven't managed to kick the habit yet. Meaning I'm still smoking. Sorry to disappoint those of you that just went ewww omg! My docs say, enough stress right now, but we fully expect you to quit when this is over. I'm good with that, and I have bee cutting down. But damn, I've smoked for 43 years so this isn't going to be an easy row to hoe.
Anyway, I wondered about the slice of lung that would be affected by the rads. My RO assured me - no problem, but has anyone heard of problems with this?
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Hi Red -- I am doing the 15 rads with 6 boosts. I've had 10 treatments so far, and no side effects at all. My RO has said that the redness doesn't correspond to dark or light skin, large or small breasts; I am fishbelly-white fair skinned. I am using cream. My RO also said "the tiny bit that this may affect your lung won't be discernible unless you are an Olympic athlete".
I had radiation 8 years ago on the left, and have never had any effects on heart or lungs that I know of. I got fairly red after 6 weeks of rads the last time around, but stopped just short of blistering.
An odd good news/bad news situation yesterday: they were doing the calculations for the boosts, and it turns out that the CT scan doesn't show where my latest lumpectomy was. They said that was because it healed so well -- that's the good news. The (not so bad) bad news is that they therefore have some difficulty aiming the boosts, and have to expand them to a 3 inch diameter area.
Kudos to my surgeon at the University of Colorado Hospital Breast Center, but hopefully the broader boosts are just as effective.
Ellen
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RedReading- I also am a smoker. I've quit several times, once for over 2 years, and quit again before chemo with all good intentions. But chemo side effects kicked in quickly and we each cope the best we can and none of us are perfect. Several chemo nurses have told me not to apologize for smoking, get through this however best I can, and don't let anyone give me a hard time. Let them go through all I have this past year and we'll see how they handle it. I have one more rad on Monday, #28, and then treatment is done except for 3 more Herceptin infusions which give me no SE's and hormone therapy for 5 years. But the worst is over and now I'll work on kicking the habit for good. Just do what works for you and don't apologize. Don't worry about rads. I see you didn't have chemo, but rads really has been easy.
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Hi All, Happy Belated Valentines Day! I'm done with Rads but wanted to check in to encourage everyone to hang in there...you can do this!
Hugs and Kisses to all.
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Red- I am in Iowa and doing 16 treatments with no boosts. My tumor was tiny, so maybe that is why no boosts. They actually removed entire cancer during the biopsy! But nobody could tell that until slides came back from surgery. I have finished thirteen treatments. I'm slightly red with red bumpy rash about three inches square above breast. It itches, mainly if I am not busy and think about it. Hydrocortisone seems to control it. Doc doesn't seem to care what cream i use as long as it is fours away from rads. No peeling or open sores. Sometimes zingers or achy feeling. But,ona pain scale of 1-10 I'd say1 or less. Hope this is encouraging. I'm ready to do the happy dance. Have a triptowRmer Arizona planned four days after radis done.
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