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  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

    Yorkie, what's really cool is that's not snow on the trees but frozen fog. It's fluffier than snow. When you're up close you can see all the separate crystals. It's just the neatest thing. I wish I could get a picture that would show that.

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  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited February 2014

    RR, amazing! I've never heard of that.

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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited February 2014

    RR that is very interesting.  We don't get anything like it here ( so far ) but it does look 'different', just based on how our trees look when the snow and ice get on them.

    Hmmm, to me the toilet paper is wrong as well, but like Yorkie......when I really, really need it ( not wearing any socks you know ) I rarely quibble or gnash my teeth.  It is easier for me to "take" less for some reason when it is in the up position.

    Cold....hmmm.  Listening to the reports of Atlanta, the Carolina's and up the East coast...it all sounds extremely brutal.  Sure hope a lot of people can just stay in.    Fortunately by week-end we will be warming up which will bring in some rain.  There we go again......mainly from one extreme to the other.  That has been the way the whole winter season has been for the most part. 

    Debt ceiling passed.  A very good thing.  Wasn't reasonable to do anything else.  Rand Paul...ridiculous.

    Jackie

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2014

    WOW - frozen fog.  That's a new FABULOUS one.  Thanx for the pics.  Wonderful

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  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

    I just Googled for images of frozen fog and there are several close up pictures. Here's one that should be small enough to post but I think you can pretty well see the structure:

    image

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  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited February 2014

    They call that frozen fog business "hoarfrost."  The valleys to the north and south of me get it, though the northern ones, that have more trees, are more impressive.  THOUGH, after a day, or even an hour of it, I have another name for it. :)

    TP - one can survive either way.  I grew up with it from bottom, but changed as an adult from top.  It reminds me of the Crest or Colgate;  Cannister or Upright;  Jiff or Skippy's question.

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  • kayfh
    kayfh Member Posts: 790
    edited February 2014

    No, no  its called Rime (as in the Rime of the Ancient Mariner. Hoar frost doesn't happen with fog.

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  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited February 2014

    Ice and frozen fog are beautiful.  Dangerous but beautiful.  Love the pictures RR!

    Weather has been so extreme this winter almost everywhere.  We talk about it more this year to check on each other and because it has disrupted the routines of our lives in many ways. 

    Libby ... hope you get home safely and ahead of all bad weather stuff! 

    Suzie ... you have obviously raised a caring son.  It is so nice of you to go to the funeral.  (((hugs))) because I know the reminder aspect of it can be hard to take.

    Going to take advantage of our balmy 27 degree weather to do my shopping today.   

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  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

    I didn't realize that Libby is traveling...please check in when you can...hoping you beat the storm home.

    Sunflowers, I wish I didn't get cabin fever. Was this something you had to work at or have you always been immune to that particular beast?

    Wabbit, pretty funny that 27 is now balmy but indeed it seems that way.

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2014

    rr - always, ALWAYS thrived in Solitude.  Me 'n H. D. Thoreau, I've made a mini Walden, but instead of writing I paint...

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  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited February 2014

    Hi Guys,

    It's snowing like crazy.  We are forecast to get between 10-16 inches.  I wonder if I will be able to shovel some of it later tonight or on my lunch hour tomorrow.

    I was really grateful this a.m. as I had a couple of dictations I could understand .. but that all disappeared about 11 a.m. when they stuck me with the ESLs they know I can't understand.  I sent my Team Lead and asked her to give me a break from them.  So far I haven't received any files I can understand.  arghh.  How am I ever going to hit minimum wage with all these bad ESLs.

    River .. I love your ice pictures.  They are so beautiful.  It's like a wonderland .. but those ice storms are deceptive, as they are very dangerous.  Hope you don't lose power.

    Sunnyflowers .. I like my isolation as well.  Never have minded being alone.  I do miss seeing my sister every week though, now that I have this job.  It's good I can work from home.

    Wabbit .. It was 26 degrees here this a.m. when I quickly walked the dogs.  I took a 15-minute break and got them down in the fields to work off some of Tank's energy.  He's crazy.  Now that he's learned how to bark, he's getting good at it!

    love and hugs to all,

    Bren

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  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited February 2014

    Just thinking about Libby too.  I hope she can get back to Dulles okay.  We're getting hit hard with this stuff.  I hope she doesn't get stuck in Wisconsin.

    Good thing I went to the store yesterday so I don't have to worry about getting out for the next 3 days.

    hugs.

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  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

    Bren, the sun has already melted most of our freezing frost and we have a generator so we're ok. I do worry about you having to shovel 10-16 inches though. I hope they're wrong and you don't get so much. I also hope your Team Lead listens and gives you some easier cases.

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  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited February 2014

    Kay - I had to look up the difference between hoarfrost and rime ice.  In the west, I've never heard the term "rime ice," and it seems the two are close cousins.  Rime, apparently only truly forms in very cold places, has a harder texture and is formed by freezing fog sticking to objects as the wind blows over it.  According to what I've read, rime frost usually is only on one side of an object, due to the wind.  Hoarfrost forms in calm air is 360 degrees around an object.  Otherwise they are formed the same way.

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  • Alyson
    Alyson Member Posts: 4,308
    edited February 2014

    Even in a place that gets little snow we have areas that get the most incredible hoar frost and it lasts for weeks getting more intricate.

    Beginning of the silly season here, it is election year and so the politicians are beginning to warm up. We have had spats about memories and the best has been between some "Lady" MPs calling another "lady" MP names because she dared comment on the economic situation of families while wearing a designer jacket! 

    Must fly.

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  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited February 2014

    hi ladies. In our house I'm the one who hangs the tp any old way.. hubby changes it to come from the top.  

    I love frozen fog and the pictures you posted are breathtaking!

    I'm on the way to MO for my 6 no check up. I get nervous. The weather Here Is partly cloudy and 50.. you ought to move to Seattle!

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  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

    Kam there's soft and hard rime. Ours was apparently soft, it has a softer appearance. I looked up fog and frost earlier and you'd be amazed how many kinds of both there are. Also I said we had frozen fog because we had a freezing fog warning so when it happened I used the past tense. It turns out freezing fog and frozen fog are two different terms. Freezing fog is what we had in that the fog condensed on the cold tree branches and metal objects. Frozen fog actually condenses in the air and falls to the ground.

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  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited February 2014

    More kinds of fog and ice than I even knew about.  In the winter, the valleys here (the Big Valleys) get Tule Fog.  I was reading, the leading cause of vehicle fatalities in California.  I can attest, it is scary scary to drive in Tule Fog.  Honestly, never heard the term "rime" used in the west.  Now there's soft and hard?

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  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

    I had to look up Tule Fog. That looks like the fog we typically get in the Spring, but as far as I know ours doesn't have a special name other than we might say it's like driving in pea soup. It's kind of unusual for us to get fog during the winter and I don't remember anything quite like this. Then again it's very unusual for us to have the cold temperatures we've been having.

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  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

    I guess our typical fog is advection fog in that we are very near a large river and a great lake and that's where it generally comes from.

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  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited February 2014

    No fog on my return home, fortunately.  Got an email last night that our flight was cancelled, but couldn't find that fact on the airline's website. Called in a panic and after the phone person checked with Operations, discovered that my flight, #441, flies from Milwaukee to DCA to Atlanta to Ft. Myers.  The DCA to ATL and ATL to Ft. Myers legs were cancelled, but they sent emails to every part of flight 441.

    Yippee skippy, our flight was safe.  Got to the airport in plenty of time, got some $$ off the rental car bill without even asking because they gave us a dirty car (we just pointed it out and had the contract initialed when we left so we wouldn't be billed - the incominb-car-processor-person said, "Oh, I'm sorry, I will give you a credit, so we got $25 bucks off!). Flight was smooth and uneventful, although I discovered that half of a .25 mg Xanax is NOT enough, and that you have to stay ahead of the anxiety, just like pain.  Kids are delighted to see us, got to the store for bread and milk (I typically scoff at people who do that, but we just returned from a week away, so we really do have a good reason!).  We are staying in tomorrow!  Thanks for thinking of me, friends!

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  • kayfh
    kayfh Member Posts: 790
    edited February 2014

    It is bloody cold here today.  Well, to be honest it is expected this time of the year in the GWN.  Does anyone know what the snow that falls out of a clear blue sky is called?  It was minus 20 C when I was out walking this morning, no wind, clear sky, nothing falling from trees (honest).  It is very humid so I am presuming it was a kind of frost.  But what kind?

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  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

    Libby, glad you made it home...and got your required bread and milk. Smile

    Kay, I think you may have had "Diamond Dust." I love learning stuff that I'll probably never need to know. Today has been a very productive day in that department.

    Diamond Dust

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  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited February 2014

    Hi Gals,

    Our snow is at about 6-8 inches now and rising.  They are calling for another 10 inches tonight and tomorrow. Yikes.  I did shovel the back porch steps so the dogs could see where they were stepping coming in and out.

    River .. I just don't know how I am going to shovel all this snow.  As it is right now, there is no way I can get our big gate that covers the driveway open.  Guess the mail will have to wait until I can get a path shoveled.  Tim said he would help me .. but who knows when he will get home.  I'll most likely have it done before he gets here.

    I'm getting better with the ESLs, at least with one or two of them, they are starting to make a tiny bit of sense.  Still, what a waste of time having me spend hours trying to decipher a 5 minute dictation.  My Lead did tell me they are getting 5 more new people to help with this account and she said she'd give them the bad dictators.  Yay!  I'm just tired and cranky this afternoon .. need to keep saying my gratefuls and get over it!!

    Libby .. glad you made it home okay.  I was worried that Dulles might shut down due to bad weather.  Also glad you didn't have to go through Texas and Atlanta!  On one trip when I was coming back from San Diego, the first leg of the trip was cancelled.  So they rerouted me through San Francisco, then Chicago, then Atlanta and finally to Greensboro.  That was a really long day.

    hugs to everybody,

    Bren

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  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

    Bren, your weather is supposed to warm up in a few days isn't it? Might think about shoveling the bare minimum and letting the rest melt.

    Edited to fix another danged spelling error.

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  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited February 2014

    Just testing my picture posting mojo

    image

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  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited February 2014

    Kam, love it! And looks like you got your mojo on!

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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited February 2014

    My....I'm learning a lot too about frosts and things.  Tule fog I knew from living in California.  Was surprised when we had it one day here but it is fairly rare so don't find myself ever tooooo concerned about that.   Learned today I need to buy a set of tires as I had a ?? bubble  ??  in one of my front tires.  Was able to take the full sized spare which has never been on the ground before and switch it on.....but I've put 50,000 miles on these tires.  Wow !!!! Seems like yesterday when I bought them.   Time flies when your having fun. 

    Bren....I like that suggestion of doing as minimal snow removal as you can.........the day we had the 17 inches here we had to shovel our deck and sidewalk four or five different times.   From shoving the snow ( it is a high deck here ) off the deck and over the side we had the snow over half way up by the time we were done.  No fun at all.  So do be as kind to yourself as you can.  Even light snow after a while becomes pretty wearing on the back.

    Kam....love that picture.  We have an Aldi's store here and we always pick out what we think are good boxes to put our groceries in so we are sure to make at least some of the felines happy around here.  Also love the way the store keeps the parking lot clean.  The carts are all in a special stall at the front of the store.  You have to pay a quarter to get a cart out.......and after you have removed your groceries from the cart, you push it back to the cart stall where you get your quarter back.  In the 16 years we have been home here......I've never seen a cart left in the parking lot. 

    There may be people who would leave the cart but anyone coming along would grab the cart and later on retrieve the quarter......so the lot stays empty of carts. 

    Jackie

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  • kayfh
    kayfh Member Posts: 790
    edited February 2014

    but, if it is light and fluffy it might be physically easier to move than if you wait until it starts to melt and then need to get out because you are going crazy waiting for spring Loopy And it is still there and now really heavy, and now you have to get out to go for food or dare I say it wine for your wedding?

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  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

    Kay, did you see my post that what you experienced today might be what some people refer to as "Diamond Dust?" There's a link back in my post on the previous page.

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