February 2014 Starting Chemo Club

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  • Tam178
    Tam178 Member Posts: 34
    edited February 2014

    I'm new to the Chemo board =) I found the Jan 2014 surgery thread super useful, but things have been moving so fast (and I've been back at work!) so didn't think about looking for a Feb Chemo thread!

    I'm in Ottawa, Canada (originally from UK) and was diagnosed Dec 2013 with IDC. Lumpectomy Jan 8th (with SLNB 0/5) showed 1.8cm just stage 1, but super high grade so having just turned 37 I'm starting 25 Feb on FEC-D chemo (3 FEC followed by 3 D (taxotere) every 3 weeks - 18w treatment) followed by 21 rads + 10 years of Anti-hormone treatments.

    My kids are 2.5 (boy) and almost 5 (girl) and am planning to let them choose my headcovering each day to make the hair loss seem a little more fun!

    I have to have a PICC line for the FEC part and so cannot get it wet - no swimming / wrap in plastic to shower etc and am really not good with needles / IVs, so that part is worrying me the most.

    I look forward to hearing and sharing everyone's journey on here. Good luck and easy rides for us all!

  • formydaughter
    formydaughter Member Posts: 213
    edited February 2014

    Thank you lago and njmom3v for the welcome!  njmom3 - your port placement sounds like a nightmare!  I'm sorry that you had to go through that.

    I just received my order from headcoverings.com for head scarf hats.  I'm not usually a hat wearer, so I needed to stock up.  I have to say that this source has tons of selections and they arrived carefully wrapped in tissue and tied with a pink bow.  They are really nice.  I recommend this source, if anyone is looking for headwear.  In my order, I had selected a soft cotton hat with a scarf built in.  I tried it on right away to try to get my 8 yr. old daughter used to the idea.  She's been brutally honest about my "Frankenboobs" ("Mommy, I'm sorry but they are just not pretty.  They will be though."), and she gave me the thumbs up on the hat choices.

    Any recs for taking the nausea meds.?  My MO has rxed "as needed" for zofran and compazine.  I'm not sure whether I should take something before I feel nausea or wait and see.  I'm not sure whether this is one of those things that is hard to control if it gets away from you, like pain, or not.  Even though I am dreading starting chemo on Mon., I'm thinking that it might be kind of a relief to know what to expect.  The anticipation/anxiety is making me crazy.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited February 2014

    christyGA - I had VERY severe stomach cramping on TCH - stopped me in my tracks kind of cramping/sharp pains shooting across my abdomen.  My onc had me take magnesium, which really did the trick and made them go away.  Please ask your onc if this is ok to try and what the dosage/type would be - I don't recall the details.  

  • jujubee83
    jujubee83 Member Posts: 30
    edited February 2014

    I'm back. I was knocked down pretty hard with the first infusion. The nausea was kept to a minimal with the meds, but what took me out was the headaches. I had a headache from the morning after chemo until yesterday (5days). I didn't read anything about headaches as a side effect anywhere. Did anyone else have this side effect? It wasn't just a regular headache though, this was the worst migraine you ever had mixed with the worst hangover you could imagine. Did not see light for days. I had an ice pack on my head for most the week. I started taking the left over oxycontin I had from surgery just to try to dull the pain. It never took it completely away. My poor little ones always had to be quiet. Every time they come home they creep into my room and ask if I'm feeling better. My 6 year old prays over me everyday. :) she prays that I won't go bald lol. I did notice a little more than usual hair falling after I brushed yesterday. It could just be my mind though. I am startung to notice i have a sour stomach. Not nausea 1but like a burning acidy stomach. Any go to remedies for this? I pray that everyone has a easier and faster recovery. It's like getting a beat down, standing up and asking for another. It was hard, but I'm not gonna give up. I was taken down, but not out!

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited February 2014

    jujubee - some people get terrible headaches as a side effect from Zofran.  Did you take Zofran or was it in your infusion? 

    Your acid stomach is quite common - acid reflux.  I suffered terribly from it.  Ask your onc about getting on a proton pump inhibitor like Nexium.  If that doesn't work alone you can add more medicines with the approval of your onc. 

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    formydaughter I recommend you ask your MO or pharmacist but I waited till I had symptoms and I never did. But at the slightest sign of nausea I would start taking one of them. Don't wait till you start puking your guts out because a. hard to control once you stop and b. if you're puking you will never keep the pill down. Find out which med you should start with. Also check how often. Probably every 6 hours as needed but that depends on the dose you were given.

    I loved the scarves from www.anokhiusa.com. Wash and wear. Colors don't fade. For wigs be sure to get a wig cap. Wigs can be itchy.

    jujubee83 be sure you are getting plenty of fluids. All that puking dehydrates you too. Sounds like you need meds for your tummy. I recommend contacting your onc about both the headaches, the sour stomach and the meds not completely working for puking. There are other puke drugs but they don't prescribe the pricey ones unless the cheap ones don't work.

    Hi Tam178

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    BTW there are lots of tutorial videos on Youtube for tying scarves. I also have a pdf from Anoki. If you would like a copy PM me your email address and I will send it to you.

  • jujubee83
    jujubee83 Member Posts: 30
    edited February 2014

    I didn't take Zofran. I have before and never had an issue (joys of morning sickness). I will look at the other meds and see what their side effects are. Thank you.  

  • formydaughter
    formydaughter Member Posts: 213
    edited February 2014

    jujubee83 - My MO said that women who had terrible morning sickness can be more likely to have more nausea from chemo too.  I too took zofran during my pregnancy (with a fenergan and reglan cocktail), but stayed bed ridden all 9 months and puked through the zofran.  I had mentioned this to my MO because I was concerned about the effectiveness of the zofran since it had not completely worked for me before.  The MO said that the part of the brain that triggers nausea from chemo is different from the part that does it for morning sickness, but that for some reason they can go hand in hand.  I am planning to ask for Emend with my chemo IV, since this was given to me pre-surgery and I had no nausea with surgery.

    Lago - what are the other anti nausea meds - Emend?  Thanks for the website suggestion!

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited February 2014


    Tam178-I currently have a PICC line, it's not that bad. I've had it in for over a month due to being on IV antibiotics. It IS a pain in the butt to keep dry in showers, but I've become quite good at wrapping it with Sarran Wrap. I do space my showers out to every other day now, but honestly since my MX I've been doing that. I used to be a everyday shower girl, now it's every other day.

    anyway, that was probably tmi :)

     

  • jujubee83
    jujubee83 Member Posts: 30
    edited February 2014

    I thought I was the only one. I wouldn't dare think about going 1 day w/o a shower. Now I'm a every other day person. Especially with the chemo, it takes a lot of energy just to get up and get in.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    formydaughter I did get Emmend in pill form at chemo that I took through the next day but I don't know if they will give that without trying others. Emmend is $$$. The reason I know is about the existence of other meds is I know a physician that works for one of the major drug companies. She was the one who told me that there were other meds available if the ones I get don't work. You will really have to ask your onc about this or query with a new topic here.

  • purpletron
    purpletron Member Posts: 9
    edited February 2014

    christyGA and jujubee83, I hope you are able to get those side effects under control and have an easier time with your next infusions.

    Good luck to njmom3, tangoandchris, formydaughter, and everyone else starting this week!

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited February 2014

    Good luck to all the ladies starting this week and thinking of those who had their first chemo treatments this past week.  XOXO

  • princessrn
    princessrn Member Posts: 370
    edited February 2014

    tam178..I was a Infusion Nurse for 6 years.  Sometimes Saran Press and Seal will work well for your PICC line and at the medical supply store they have sleeves that people use over casts with broken arms.  I used to recommend press and seal and the sleeve.

    Lago.. thanks for the cording info.  I believe that is what I am experiencing and I will pursue PT.  

    Formydaughter...GOOD LUCK...you will be in my thoughts.  I'm right behind you next week.

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited February 2014


    Getting anxious about starting chemo this week. It seems like I should be doing something to prepare for this physically. Unfortunately I think I'm about to start my period, which will make for a great time all around. Anyway, just checking in...hope everyone is doing as good as can be expected.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    princessrn make sure you get a PT who knows about cording. My first pt didn't know what is was and admitted she wasn't an LE PT. My LE PT of course knew what it was but by that time I had already stretched it out. Mine wasn't that bad.

    tangandchris I had my last period 2 weeks before chemo... and it really was my last. I think it took 1.5  years before I stopped looking at the ads to see if my brand of tampons were on sale. BTW I wouldn't  use tampons during chemo because of infection issues. 

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    Here's a funny but true story. I had read this so off I went to purchase pads/sanitary napkins or what ever  you call those things. Anyway I never really wore pads. Just a few emergencies in jr high when there was those extra surprise flow and the rush to purchase in the bathroom. So I'm in Walgreens and I see I have all these choices/brands. extra long, some can fly because they come with wings... unless maybe they are like turkeys and the wings don't do any thing. I had no idea what to purchase. So here I am 49 years old and I have to ask some woman shopper which ones she would recommend. She probably thought I was nuts. Then ends up I never even needed them.

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    3  things you need for chemo. Water, something to eat and something to do to pass the time. I remember once my onc came in and saw me playing video games on my old color gameboy. She just cracked up. I guess she didn't see me as a video game player. If only she knew at one time I designed games, both board and video. Loopy Seriously I came with this bag of stuff I never used my first chemo. But of course everyone's journey is different. My  treatment center had warm blankets. If yours doesn't I would recommend bringing one. I was always cold. I think they keep it cold because germs don't like cold. That's why OR are freezing. I have no idea how surgeons and nurses work in cold ORs all day without wearing winter gear.

  • Njmom3
    Njmom3 Member Posts: 143
    edited February 2014

    I am so ready to say goodbye to Aunt Flo!  I just finished this week and start my chemo in Tuesday.  I was at Costco and like a dummy bought some huge 3 pack of tampons.  Hoping I won't need them!  Still pretty apprehensive about Tuesday, partially because other than Emla and Ativan and zolfan that's the only meds I have.  I have a question, did anyone use Emla on their port.  I guess you just rub it on and put Saran over it?  Are there any tips for success with this?  My port Is really sore, I hope it's better by tuesday. It's weird I feel something in my neck above the port, plus like a tube thing?  I expected the port bump but what's this other stuff?  I took bandage off an have some of this white steri strips, is it ok to shower with them?

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    Njmom your port sounds like mine. I am really thin on top so my really showed. I do believe the newer ones don't stick out as much. It will feel funny/odd for a while. It takes time to heal. Yes I did the emla/saran . You need to put it on about an hour ahead of time. I sometimes forgot and found the stick not that bad. It's only a second. The needle isn't as long. My surgeon used surgical glue but my biopsy radiologist used steri strips. I think I had to wait before I could get them wet. Check with your surgeon.

  • Sicilian
    Sicilian Member Posts: 49
    edited February 2014

    I am finally starting to feel better after my first treatment. I would say that 9 days out was my first really good day. The stomach issues with the chemo were expected, but the Neulasta crap killed me. Good news, though, is that my bloodwork was perfect when they checked one week after my treatment. I did the Claritin and if that helped, I can't imagine NOT being on it. My onco did say that the first shot is the worst, though.

    So, here I am, 11 days after, and what I now refer to as The Great Hair Migration of 2014 has begun. It's not falling out in clumps or anything, but there's more and more in my hairbrush each day. I'm guessing that the clumps will be in my near future.

    I really don't want to wear a wig. I ordered a bunch of scarves from an online store called Double Header. They were very reasonable and there was free shipping. I ordered last night after dinner and already got an email that my order has shipped. I'll let you all know how it looks. I also found a cute place on Etsy that sells sleep caps for only $6. I think I'll order a few.

    My next treatment is the 20th. Hang tough, ladies. We can all do this!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    BTW I got a sleep hat. It was too hot for me. What I did get was a bunch of these headbands at Walgreens. I wore them over my ears/forehead. My ears got cold.

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  • mazie73
    mazie73 Member Posts: 74
    edited February 2014

    Hi jujubee83: I'm prone to terrible headaches and was really worried that chemo would trigger them, so I made sure to drink at least 64 oz. of water each day (recommended by my nurse case manager). I only had one moderate headache three days after the infusion, and it went away with Excedrin and a nap. I also religiously took ginger-root capsules (three times a day, starting the day of chemo) for six days. Apparently, ginger root is good for migraines. 

    My second infusion is Feb. 20, so it'll be interesting to see if this water / ginger combo continues to work!

  • jujubee83
    jujubee83 Member Posts: 30
    edited February 2014

    mazie73: I am definitely going to try more water this time around. I drank a lot, but like they say, it's never enough. I will also try the ginger root capsules this time around. I tried the ginger candy and the ginger ale, but that made my stomach worse :/ Thanks for the tips. 

  • Sicilian
    Sicilian Member Posts: 49
    edited February 2014

    If anyone is interested, here's the shop on Etsy with cute head coverings:

    https://www.etsy.com/shop/CJHats?ref=pr_faveshops

    And this is where I ordered my scarves:

    http://www.doubleheaderusa.com/results.asp?catid=5

    I can't confirm anything yet on quality since I haven't received them yet, but they were certainly reasonable, and I ordered them last night and they've already shipped.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    BTW for ginger I found the pickled ginger you get at the Japanese restaurants that serve sushi really helps me. I mean not on chemo because I never got nausea but at other times. It's worth a try. (And I'm not talking about morning sickness. Never been pregnant).

  • Moonflwr912
    Moonflwr912 Member Posts: 6,856
    edited February 2014

    Just popping in to say hi again. I wanted to tell you guys  a trick. If you are wearing long scarves use a scrunchie to gather the scarf like a pony tail. It's easier than tying them.  

    Also my port has been in for more than 2 years with no problem. As I still need some IV meds 18 months PFC I left it in. It was put in 2 days before my first infusion and left accessed til after my infusion 2 days later. Also I needed antibiotics for an infection and it was accessed for the 4 weeks I needed IV abx. 

    Another thing not yet addressed. Most people tend towards constipation during chemo. I was one of the ones who went the other way. I got the big D every chemo from day 5 to day 10. So if this happens to anyone feel free to PM me and I'll help if I can. 

    And last thing, if your neck bothers you after port placement, it's because sometimes they access your neck to either place the port or the tube sometimes to find the correct placement. 

    Much love to all. 

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited February 2014

    Sicilian-I'm loving the website double head!! Thanks! I think I'm going to enjoy wearing scarves, I never realized there were so many options.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited February 2014

    FOR THOSE WHO HAVE A PORT FOR CHEMO :  You may want to ask your onco for a prescription for EMLA cream (lidocaine) so you can numb the port area before you leave home for your round of chemo.  If you forget to apply the EMLA cream or don't receive a prescription, ask the infusion nurse to use ice on the port area with numbing spray.  That way you won't feel the poke when the port is accessed. 

    If you receive a generic EMLA cream at the drug store, it may not come with any special coverings ( Tegaderm wound covers that can be purchased at CVS or Walgreens) for the area to put on after you apply it.  In order to avoid getting the EMLA cream on your clothes and other places, just a 4 X 4 inch square of Glad Press N Seal plastic wrap to cover the area.  Make sure you avoid the temptation to spread the EMLA cream on the port area; I'm told that your fingers will be numb for quite a while!!!!

    If you aren't prescribed EMLA cream , ask the infusion nurse to ice the port area to numb it. 

    If you just got your port right before your chemo, just know that you can't use EMLA cream on an newly sutured area.  Ask the infusion nurse if there is anything that can be used to numb the area if you have a new port.

    Sometimes I applied the EMLA cream myself instead of letting my husband.  I would stand in front of a mirror so I see where my port was.  I would then squeeze the cream starting in a spiral until it was about the size of a quarter and then put either the Tegaderm wound cover or a piece of Press N Seal plastic wrap.  I was able to spread the EMLA cream with the covering so I couldn't numb my fingers and to make sure I had enough on in the right place.

     

    Wishing those here an easy time with their upcoming infusions.

  • Siniberry
    Siniberry Member Posts: 14
    edited February 2014

    Just got my onco type back and it was 30 so my dr wants me to do 4 rounds of chemo. I get my port put in Feb 14th and start chemo Feb 17th. I go wednsday for a class so as to know what to expect. I will ask the nurse about the saran and EMLA cream.

    Everyone on here has been so helpful. I try to put up a big front to everyone but know on here I don't have to. I am kinda nervous about the first chemo treatment. I have been trying to prepair things I will need. Thanks ladies for everything.

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited February 2014

    Siniberry:  I had 4 rounds of TC and did not get a port. I know this is nerve-racking to all of you, but we are here for you and each other.

    Just think of 12 hours at a time.....Made my life a little easier.

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