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  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited February 2014

    Melissa, 

    Waxing keeps the hair away far longer!

    Spookiemom,

    I think most people would have no trouble accepting these things. What most of us care about is potential tx be properly researched, trialed and manufactured. I wouldn't care if it was made from honey badger pee as long as it followed a scientific process before it came to market.

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  • wyo
    wyo Member Posts: 541
    edited February 2014

    Whats a honey badger?? Agree totally with your point though- look at the people eating that gross bird's nest soup and paying a ton of money for it- 

    http://blog.cookingchanneltv.com/2013/05/02/what-is-birds-nest-soup/

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  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited February 2014

    wyo,

    Here is the famous YouTube clip about the nasty honey badger

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg&desktop_u...

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  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited February 2014

    Agree!

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  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

    So, I go away for a dirty weekend with my honey and missed all the good stuff, LOL!

    Cider... welcome!  I use pure Sweet Almond oil on my face and body as a moisturizer.  My skin loves it!  I tend to use natural beauty products - some I even make myself - because I love the simplicity of it (and the fact that I can make them myself).  Been using them for years.  Besides, prior to menopause, I had highly sensitive, allergic skin which reacted to anything and everything (no "complete skin care routines" for me, my skin would shred off my face), and I had to go simple.  Now, it's just a habit (and I like making stuff myself).

    Waxing?  Never had the courage, either for the pain or for the position needed to wax.  Tried my legs once... couldn't imagine doing my foof.  Then, after experiencing the chemo-wax-effect, decided that, since certain body parts age like the rest of our body parts, it was probably better to keep covered up.

    Going to go catch up on woo and read orac... glad to be back!

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  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

    Okay... all caught up.  Yes, I agree with all of you; I don't know how momine does it.  She's a gem.  I'm too hot-headed...

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  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

     "I wouldn't care if it was made from honey badger pee as long as it followed a scientific process before it came to market."

    ThumbsUp

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  • kayfh
    kayfh Member Posts: 790
    edited February 2014

    if hyperthermia worked, I mean really worked, there would be NO cancer in Australia.  None. 

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  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited February 2014

    or Texas

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  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited February 2014

    I am so glad to be in the company of all you very generous women. I came across a strange phenomena out there on one of those other threads. It was an odd exchange between someone asking for a poster to share research/info and the response was that one needs to do ones own research and she was simply posting for support. I have seen this before. "Do your own heavy lifting" was the response in answer to a request for links that I have also seen. Although we should and often do our own research, we also have shared without question on the more conventional threads. Generosity of spirit is the ultimate support.

    Caryn

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  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Member Posts: 2,942
    edited February 2014

    Melissa - some of the best cheese making supplies are from goat suppliers. I've ordered supplies from both of these companies but not cheese making since I never milked.

    http://hoeggerfarmyard.com/xcart/Cheese-Making/

    http://www.caprinesupply.com/products/cheesemaking...

    Looks like Hoeggers is much more supplied. I've bought rennet in a grocery - used a remedy for sick goats. Posting this and will read 2 more pages yet to go.

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  • Blessings2011
    Blessings2011 Member Posts: 4,276
    edited February 2014

    Caryn - Could that kind of response be a cover for  "Well, I really don't have any scientific data or documented research but I heard it from my cousin's neighbor or saw it on an infomercial or received a message in a dream,  and I can't even begin to back up my claim.... so YOU need to go find data it if you want it that bad!"

    In other words, someone got caught citing stats with no proof whatsoever - no matter how shaky -  and did not want to admit it?

    Just a thought...

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  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

    Caryn & Blessings... if you recall, in that other world, when I asked someone once - who claimed that her doctor gave her a number of sources regarding the complete success of said-woo-in-question - to post a link or share the source information, so that others could beneift, I was told (and I kid you not) that this particular "source" was never intended for public consumption and she had no intention of sharing it.  So, if I read into the situation correctly, she had the ultimate "natural" cure given to her by a bona-fide doctor, but that this cure was a secret and she intended to keep it that way.

    If I wasn't already a skeptic, that was enough to tip the balance.

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  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

    And, just to add a note of levity ...

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  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited February 2014

    Bronx, I saw that and posted an article. I completely agree, btw.

    Selena, I remember that one, and I actually tracked down the "super-secret mystery source," which turned out to be a lame powerpoint presentation by a bunch of quacks, although it was billed as a "medical conference" on the miracles wrought by overdosing on iodine.

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  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

    Ah!  That explains it...

     


     

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2014

    What selena said, it is another world.  I remember when someone, who has sadly since died, thought she had found "THE ANSWER" and everyone was so happy for her, but naturally curious as to what that place was, what the treatment was in that world, it was "fear" which kept her from posting, fear of being asked about her treatment.

    I know, I know ( for those from other worlds reading here) women who have had only "conventional" treatments have also died, but no one seems to feel the need to "guard" the information of what treatments she's having - and with all the "rules" know about the other world, the fear excuse is lame.

    I'm with Caryn - and grateful and very very appreciative of all the wonderful information women have shared.  Vain, and otherwise :)

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  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited February 2014

    Sunflowers, I remember that too, sadly. Thing is, yes, those who have had chemo etc die too. It is not a cure. We know that, thanks! But if avenue A will make 80 of a 100 women live 10 years, and avenue B will make 40 of 100 women live 10 years, then my choice is pretty simple, even if there is a good chance I will be dead in 10 years either way.

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  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited February 2014

    Baffling isn't it Kay?

    I'm always bemused by the series of women who seem to have nominated themselves "Mom" of certain threads and feel the need to chastise anyone who doesn't greet every pronouncement with oohs & gasps of delight.

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  • wyo
    wyo Member Posts: 541
    edited February 2014

    this is by far my favorite thread but I totally have to agree about the comments on doing your own research- why would I do that if someone else has done a full meta-analysis and could just as easily provide the links etc.  As you all know I am in healthcare and what we say today with everything that is out there is you don't have to know everything- you do have to know one thing and that is where to find what you need to look up.  It makes perfect sense- you used to be able to know quite a lot about a lot of things but with new medications, treatments etc. you need to know where to do your research.  

    I mean honestly- if we are willing to share our moisturizing, waxing and other "secrets" for the greater good of women looking and feeling better (tongue in cheek)....

    Bottom line- we are all dying even those without breast cancer, I am just in no big hurry to hasten along the party and will do things I feel are proven and evidence-based to prolong things. 

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  • Njmom3
    Njmom3 Member Posts: 143
    edited February 2014

    Hello ladies, I just stumbled across this page while trying to search for my question?  Does anyone know if it is ok to keep  with having gel fills done to my nails during chemo?  I've had them done forever!  I thought if I asked my manicurist to stay away from my cuticles with the dremel and get my own files, I could be ok?  I can't imagine going without nails.  I'm starting ac tx next week for two four week cycles every other week, then 12 weeks of taxol.  Bad enough I'm losing my hair, but not my nails too...  

    Has anyone done the looking good... Program?  I am thinking about it, I am a makeup junkie so I dont know what more they can tell me unless it's different when on chemo?

    Any other good tips to know?  I think I'm gonna like it here!

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  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited February 2014

    Wyo, I feel the exact same way: "I am just in no big hurry to hasten along the party and will do things I feel are proven and evidence-based to prolong things."

    But that also means that I make sure to get exercise (evidence definitely suggests a survival advantage from that) and eat my veggies. In other words, I do not confine myself to remedies that come in a pill bottle or IV bag, although the more extreme among the alternatives seem to think so.

    Njmom, I don't know about gels. Do you have a chemo nurse? Either ask her or ask the onc. The taxanes can unfortunately do a number on your nails, but I have no idea if gels make any difference, positive or negative. As for infections more generally, I never had a problem through 8 rounds of chemo. I even flew, with my onc's blessing. 

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2014

    once again, thenewme has brought valuable information to a thread, with links to information putting a "new" subject into realistic perspective.

    THANK YOU thenewme

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  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

    Njmom3... my toenails got very loose during chemo, but my fingernails did not.  On the other hand, someone I knew who was also having the same chemo had a horrible time with loose fingernails, but her toenails were fine.   I know very little about gel nails and how they are applied/removed, and how that might affect your nails during treatment.  I feel you need to discuss this with your chemo nurse or oncologist to find out what their recommendation is.

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  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

    I, too, would like to thank all the vain ladies for their wonderful warmth, ability to share, and willingness to discuss anything.  I feel that our motto should be "Discourse, Discussion, Deconstruction, and Debate freely welcomed".

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  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

    thenewme... ROCKS!

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  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited February 2014

    njmom3,

    No knowledge of gel nails and chemo ( I use gel polish). Although I ended up not doing chemo, I did go to the Look Good, Feel Better class. A fun way to spend a few hours and i got quite a haul of free makeup.

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  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited February 2014

    Didn't do chemo, but I've read on BCO that wearing black or very dark nail polish helps. Some people also put the nails in ice water. I would worry about that though, as it might keep the chemo from wiping out stray cells in the nail area. Maybe they don't typically go there, but why take the chance. That's just TOO vain IMO. 

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  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited February 2014

    Oh my. Do I have to be PC? I found that thread. I'm going to read more of it when I'm having a crummy day and need to laugh. 

    I did the Look Good Feel Good. It was a nice few hours out. Got lots of stuff from big name companies. Most of it not useable, too dark for me. 

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  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited February 2014

    How nice that we had this thread. Because the other day I went to check out a new store here. It is run by a couple of young women, who design and sew their own stuff. I had to buy something, because I am scheming to get my kid an internship or something with them, perhaps. The girl was so enthusiastic about the dress I picked, that she insisted on photographing me in it, no make-up and the wrong shoes and all. It was fun, and what better place than here to share :)

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