Starting Chemo in December 2013

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  • DJJ
    DJJ Member Posts: 229
    edited February 2014

    End of day 2 after my first low dose Taxol.  Oh if only the other 11 will go this smoothly.  I hardly notice that I had chemo on Friday.  I took Ativan before bed Friday and last night and slept through the night... unheard of!!!! I haven't slept through the night since my first AC.  I had just a smidge of nausea this morning but I seem to get that worse than most and compared to the AC It's nothing.  I do notice some body aches, neck and just took an hour walk with the dogs and now my hips ache.  I'll take Jodi's advice and take Claritin.  Fingers crossed the rest of the week goes this smoothly. 

    Lorreymom I hope your ultra sound went well and I'm sorry about the shots.  The burning shots are the worst!

    Kim, sorry you had a rough night.  My MO said after the first two Taxols without an allergic reaction she would back me off the steroids. 

  • Mikesgirl17
    Mikesgirl17 Member Posts: 260
    edited February 2014

    djj glad to hear Taxol went so smoothly.  I'm on the train heading home from Boston and pretty nervous about my first dense dose taxol tomorrow.  I had a pretty good time in Boston, but if I had to do it all over I would have done it differently.  I ran myself down walking everywhere and I hope it doesn't affect chemo tomorrow.  And my eyes and nose RAN 24/7.  It was awful.  Very annoying to say the least.  Boston is windy!  My rash is gone though so that is a blessing.  Good luck this week ladies!  

  • count_it_all_joy
    count_it_all_joy Member Posts: 130
    edited February 2014

    DJJ - it is good to hear how well things are going for you.  Perhaps this will be your magic bullet - imagine a drug that does what it needs to without making you miserable.  What a thought!!

    Kim - sorry you had such a hard night.  The nights can last FOREVER whenever you're hurting and just want to sleep.  Did you manage any nap/rest today?

    This round has hit me hardest (TAC#3).  No more nausea, but I am REALLY wiped out and weak.  Moving slow, feel like an old lady with no strength.   Yukky thrush.  Taxotere pain in my knees, Neulasta pain in my neck and toes, which is where it seems to like to live.  Starting to look at my face in the mirror with losing eyelashes, and see an old man's face looking back at me!  ;)   On the good side…  the sleep aid my dr recommended plus a bedtime foot rub from dh gave me several hours of sleep last night, which I have been needing, and I still woke up with a pretty clear head.   And I made it to the Riparian with my 13-hr old to walk (slowly!), watch the birds, and read a book in the sun.   I'm from AZ, and today made me realize I really need to be sitting outside on these hard days.  It was very good for my spirits.  

    These days are tough, but God is still good.  

  • RHGSR
    RHGSR Member Posts: 774
    edited February 2014

    count it all - I'm sorry you are having some hard days. But glad you were able to get out. That was me last week. It seems like fresh air and sunshine always help some. what sleep aid did your doc recommend ? 

    Mikesgirl- good luck tomorrow. Wishing you minimal SEs

  • count_it_all_joy
    count_it_all_joy Member Posts: 130
    edited February 2014

    RHGSR - thanks.  :)   The sleep prescription is Temazepam, 15 mg.  It's supposed to be very mild.  I didn't sleep all night through - maybe 5 hours or so.  But even tho I was waking off and on until morning after that, I felt rested and clear.   

    My goal now is to sit outside with a book every day.  Why didn't I start this earlier??  Feels like free therapy.  And the days are coming when hot flashes and Phoenix heat will kill me, while the rest of you are enjoying your sweet spring days.  

  • Leealice
    Leealice Member Posts: 87
    edited February 2014

    count it all joy-I hope you are on the upswing soon. I agree sitting outside is good theraphy. I got thrush with first chemo and my MO gave me Fluconazole to take for the week of chemo and I haven't had it since. I do have a few mouth sores.

    Neulasta shot-My nurse makes sure the shot sits out and gets to room temperature before she gives it because it stings more when cold. God Bless those that can inject themselves. I don't think I could do that

  • kjfromca
    kjfromca Member Posts: 283
    edited February 2014

    Sending a prayer out to those of you with chemo this week, safe travels and easy time with SE's.

    Mikesgirl - I am glad to hear that your rash is going away.  Are you starting Taxol this round?  Low douse or douse dense?  I cannot remember.  My first round of douse dense was about 5 hours, they add a couple more premeds and the Taxol was administered pretty slow.  

    Cramping and upper leg ache still here.  My ovaries hate me, no period since December, it feels like my body is rebelling.  Not unbearable, just uncomfortable.  I was able to sleep for about 6 hours last night.  My heating pad really is getting used a lot with the chemo.  

    Count it all joy - I might ask for some sleep meds with my next round, not used to having the extra steroids.  When is your next round of chemo?  

    Kim

  • Mikesgirl17
    Mikesgirl17 Member Posts: 260
    edited February 2014

    kjfromca, I am starting dose dense today at 1:00.  I took 5 steroids at 9:00.  They are starting to make me feel funny.  Not as nervous as I was yesterday.  Hoping for the best.  I'll let you all know how it goes.  Have a great day.

  • Amazonwarrior
    Amazonwarrior Member Posts: 485
    edited February 2014

    Count it all: I am all for some sunshine therapy! Now that I'm done with my first part of treatment (FEC), I could even start thinking about it.  I was much more careful about being in the sun earlier because one of the chemo drugs called Fluorouracil makes you photo- sensitive. 

    After my surgery in October, I used to just sit outside and soak up the sun while doing a few physiotherapy excercises or I would lay in the hammock in the backyard under a big wallnut tree. Ahhh! That was great! I can't wait to do that again!

    Now I have to wait for some warm weather as I don't feel like sitting outside when it's - 10 C. Oh well, something to definitely look forward to in the spring!Smile

  • count_it_all_joy
    count_it_all_joy Member Posts: 130
    edited February 2014

    amazon warrior - funny thing, I can't even remember if I'm photo sensitive right now!  I just went to the park with long pants, long sleeves, BIG hat, and lots of sunscreen.  Now I wonder if  that was necessary, or I'm just so used to nothing being easy!  ;)  I suppose I should look that up today…  it would be really nice to tan up this bright white head of mine, but it looks so fragile to expose out there.

    leealice - do you mean you are you doing fluconozole after each treatment, as a preventative?  I've used it each time, but only after I had signs.  Wondering if I could just head it off…   Sorry about the mouth sores.  :(

    Kim- my next chemo isn't until mid-Feb, 3 week schedule.  Are you on 2 weeks?  Your last date on your post says 1/16, but I was thinking you just went in last week?  Glad you had a good night's sleep.  I'm hoping I can use the sleep aid around steroid days, and then taper off again, unless I need some catch up.  

  • kimie06
    kimie06 Member Posts: 215
    edited February 2014

    just seen my oncologist, all is a good tomorrow for Taxol......yikes...I am a little nervous. 

  • dragonfly45
    dragonfly45 Member Posts: 25
    edited February 2014

    I finished Chemo on 1/17 A/C, and still feel crappy!  I am suppose to start Radiation on Feb 10.  Will I ever feel good again?

  • Leealice
    Leealice Member Posts: 87
    edited February 2014

    count it all joy- yes I used fluconozole as preventative and it worked the last 2 times

    Dragonfly- I'm sure you will feel better than you do know but we may all have a new normal. Talking to others- It took some several months to really feel good again. I guess it takes a while to get all this chemo out of your system but I know many people expect you to feel fine because chemo is over and aren't you excited. If you felt well you would. No one can really understand unless you have been there.  Hang in there

  • Mikesgirl17
    Mikesgirl17 Member Posts: 260
    edited February 2014

    Today was a long day.  Showed up 1/2 hour early hoping to get a jump start on the blood work.  NOPE.  My appointment was 1:00.  I didn't even get in to see the nurse until 1:45.  Started chemo at 2:30.  Ended at 6:30.  I didn't have any sort of reaction to the Taxol.  I did feel Super groggy from the Benadryl.  I am wired and exhausted at the same time, but no head fog or nausea :)  I wrapped my cold packs in my fleece sleeves around my feet and hands during the infusion hoping it would help with NOT getting neuropathy.  I'll let you know how I feel tomorrow.  Good luck tomorrow Kimmie and whoever else is having an infusion.  I hope you feel better soon Dragonfly.  It probably doesn't help that we all have the winter blues right now.

  • Crazywabbit
    Crazywabbit Member Posts: 563
    edited February 2014

    I image it will take quit a while to feel normal again.  Hopefully no long term chemo brain effects. 

    Went to the LGFB class today.  It was fun to get all made up. Got some nice cosmetics including a full sized bottle of Estée Lauder makeup similar to what I have bought in the past. All the products were full sized and from various upscale companies.  I even got one of my wigs trimmed while there. It was a little long in the back and she shaped it up nicely.  Also got a bottle of wig shampoo.  Highly advise going since you are there with woman going through the same stuff you are and it is just fun. 

    Wishing everyone a good night' sleep. Amazing how one takes that for granted.  

    Barbara

  • RHGSR
    RHGSR Member Posts: 774
    edited February 2014

    thought about you today mikesgirl. Other then the long day I'm happy to hear your first Taxol went well. 

     Kimmie- good luck with your infusion tomorrow. 

    I'm going for my follow up and blood work tomorrow and infusion of 3rd AC on Thursday. 

  • J4DC
    J4DC Member Posts: 80
    edited February 2014

    RHGSR and Kimmie, good luck with new round of chemo. 

    All the other ladies started Taxol, I am glad to hear most of you feel it's easier than AC. 

    Finished 4th AC last Thursday. My tongue still feel burnt. Nausea is getting better and I am so relived this is the last round of AC. I am starting taxol on 2/14, weekly for 12 weeks. Got my premed last week for taxol. The nurse told me to take 20 mg of steroid the night before, then another 20 mg 2 hours before chemo. It scares me to take this much of decadron for taxol. It seems to be quite extreme and a lot higher dose than AC. Is it normal for everybody getting taxol? Thanks!

  • Mikesgirl17
    Mikesgirl17 Member Posts: 260
    edited February 2014

    Morning.  I took an Ambian for the first time last night.  Managed to sleep from 11-4.  I feel okay today.  Still tired with a slight head ache.  Totally different from a/c.  You still FEEL like yourself. I'm suppose to start to feel pain tomorrow.  We'll see what happens.  I drank vitamin water yesterday and I think that might have helped. ( Who knows.)  I wish you all luck today.  Kimmie, you'll be fine.

  • Crazywabbit
    Crazywabbit Member Posts: 563
    edited February 2014

    J4DC-

    I asked my MO about premeds for my first weekly Taxol next week, He said I will get the steroids in the IV and I did not need to take any before then.  Seems like most people are getting steroids the night before.  I am a bit scared because of risk of allergic reactions. Good to hear that those who started already are tolerating it better then the cursed AC.   expecting a five hour visit to the infusion center for first Tx. Question for anyone taking B6 or glutamine, how long before starting Taxol did you start?

     Day 5 post 4th AC an finally feeling a bit of energy returning.  Hope anyone in the NE will make it to treatment on Wed. with the snow coming.

    Barbara

  • lorreymom
    lorreymom Member Posts: 149
    edited February 2014

    Positive random thought....when this is all over, I am going to get a breast cancer survivor tattoo!!  Something feminine & shows strength & courage.  I have lots of time to think about what I want.  I want the pink  ribbon somewhere in it though.  Something to look forward to!! :D 

    How is everyone feeling?  I hope I start my weekly Taxol on Friday.  Glad most of you are handling it well!!  That fact eases my fears & gives me strength!! :). Thank you for sharing your stories! 

  • count_it_all_joy
    count_it_all_joy Member Posts: 130
    edited February 2014

    dragonfly - sadly, I'm sure 3 weeks is not enough time for your body to recover from all that's been done to it   I'm thinking keep eating well, sleeping when you are tired, walking… pamper yourself, and don't expect that you can quickly pick up the pace again.  I'm sure I'll be in the same place when I finish chemo, and want to pick up more of my old schedule, but your body is still busy about the work of repairing itself, and that takes a lot of energy.  Give it lots of good material to work with, and it will be faithful to build you back to health in time.  Our bodies are amazing things. Hang in there. 

    jackie - you mentioned using apple cider vinegar for thrush.  I've finished my 3 days of fluconozol, and not gone yet.  How do you use the vinegar?

    Taxol girls - hoping for sleep for you all, lots of steroids flowing out there!

    Had an unusually normal family day yesterday for post chemo… helped my daughter with her science project, packed lunches for today, watched a Cary Grant movie together…  went to bed tired and achey, but not bad for day 5!  

    Mary

  • jackieak
    jackieak Member Posts: 169
    edited February 2014

    nice to read positive Taxol experiences, no fog head alone sounds so much better.  I see MO today for run down of it to start 2-13.  I am almost two weeks out from last AC and only feel fatigue yet by the end of the work day, but nice to put in my full 8-9 hours, now to get motivated for that treadmill daily.

    Count, I put half apple cider and half warm water and rinse, also do yogurt daily to help the thrush, clears it up in two days.  

    Crazywabbit, what did your Mo say about the supplements, mine really had no opinion on it and I'm wondering also if I take it when and should I start now or day before?  I'm hoping mouth sores and metallic taste don't happen as well.

  • count_it_all_joy
    count_it_all_joy Member Posts: 130
    edited February 2014

    jackie - already on the yogurt thing… (unsweetened with sliced bananas and nutmeg tastes great, even with thrush!) - got my vinegar, will rinse NOW.  crossing my fingers and thanks!

  • Crazywabbit
    Crazywabbit Member Posts: 563
    edited February 2014

    Jackieck

    MO definitely recommends B6 50-100 mg no more then that. He was neutral on the glutamine. Said it would not hurt but he did not know if it really helps.  Same thing with B12 will not hurt but doubt it would help 

    I figure if it will not hurt there may be chance it will help.  

    Barbara

  • kimie06
    kimie06 Member Posts: 215
    edited February 2014

    yay ! first Taxol treatment done, it was a long day I got there at 845 left at 130...my only issue was I was so hot while getting it, maybe I was having a long hot flash I don't know but it drove me nuts, that and I peed constantly but I always try to drink a lot too.  Should be interesting to see what the next few days have in store, I can do without the bone pain and neuropathy......xo ladies

  • chicopeach57
    chicopeach57 Member Posts: 166
    edited February 2014

    Everybody - had my last round of AC on the 24th, it kicked my ass! Just now really feeling good.  Don't think I could bring myself to do another.  The good thing was I was snowed in on the crappiest days so I was already off work.

    Good to hear some decent taxol experiences, have mine on Friday, not quite as apprehensive as before.

    Patti



    Tough times don't last, tough people do.

  • Carol99
    Carol99 Member Posts: 116
    edited February 2014

    Chicopeach, I'm nervous, my last AC is Monday2/10 I'm still feeling lousy from last Monday (1/27).   Last week I felt I couldn't do another!  Good for you being done:)

    I'm making "special banana bread" for nausea.

  • chicopeach57
    chicopeach57 Member Posts: 166
    edited February 2014

    NEskir99 - good luck, It wouldn't have been so bad if I had stayed on the omperozole, but I read somewhere that I shouldn't so I waited to ask my MO.  He said TAKE IT!  I think I burned my esophagus with acid reflux because I would go into spasms when trying to eat or drink.  Then I remembered the orange sherbet, it felt good and tasted good, got past my burned tongue feeling.  My Mom loved it when she had chemo for colorectal cancer.

    You can do it, just one more!

  • RHGSR
    RHGSR Member Posts: 774
    edited February 2014

    kimmie- glad to hear it went well. Was it the Taxol that made you so hot? Did you do any of the hand/feet icing? 

    Had my follow up and blood work today. 3rd AC on Thursday. I'm a little behind y'all since I started on Dec 30th. 

    Have y'all found the 3rd and 4th ACs being harder then 1 and 2?

  • Crazywabbit
    Crazywabbit Member Posts: 563
    edited February 2014

    RHGSR. I found the fatigue was worse and longer after the 3 and 4 th dose but other wise SE about the same.  

    Chicopeach5. I thought I was having chemo heartburn a few times and used tums and nexium. Some was reflux but for me I think a lot was also upper sternal pain from the neulasta. Your reflux sounded like it was terrible. Hopefully you will not get it on taxol.  Anxious to hear how all you do on it. My first is later next week. 

    NEskir99. Enjoy your "banana bread". Hope it helps. 

    Barbara

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