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  • Jeannie57
    Jeannie57 Member Posts: 2,144
    edited February 2014

    bdavis,  I am amazed you were able to walk the last three years with all of your surgeries and complications. The timing must have been just right. I am so sorry about your friend. Cancer blows, no matter what form it takes. Thanks for raising all that money, too.

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited February 2014

    Gosh, all you guys that did that walks...good for you!!!  More than I could take on right now, but something to strive for. 

    Jeannie, forgive my ignorance, what does FBC stand for?

    Bdavis, that is a very sad story about your friend, and the walk.  I am sorry.  I hope she is not suffering too much.  My prayers and thoughts are with her.

    Unfortunately, an elderly neighbor of mine is going into assisted living, but she was selling all her stuff, which is so sad.  She put this clock on the list for $150.  I was skeptical, since it hadn't been cleaned up in a long time, and she kept it near her front door, and she had two little dogs that had made nose prints on it for years. Anybody that has a dogs that get near windows, or glass know what I mean, it's like glue if you don't get to it right away.  I have spent a long time today just getting the bottom cleaned up.  The top seems to be okay.  And, it runs!!!  Now, the problem is where to put it...lmaooooo.

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  • Jeannie57
    Jeannie57 Member Posts: 2,144
    edited February 2014

    Oh, Goldie. FBC means f*ing breast cancer. I have never been a swearer until cancer found me.

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited February 2014

    LOL, Jeannie.  Good for you!!!!   I like it. We can just say it here.  Although, we do say it around my house quite a bit.

  • Ridley
    Ridley Member Posts: 634
    edited February 2014

    I have our 60 km walk for women's cancers in Toronto to thank for many things,  I have done it for the past 5 years, and I have made some wonderful friends, who have been so supportive through my diagnosis, surgery, etc.  I'm heading south out of the cold with two of them in a few days for a week of recuperating in the warm weather.  One of highlights of the resort for us is that we can walk on the beach for an hour each way.  I also attribute all of the training for the walks with getting me in pretty good shape for surgery.  It has been a big blessing in my life.

    On a sad note, we buried my cousin today.  She passed away earlier this week from brain cancer at age 57. She beat the time predictions of how long she would likely survive by more than a year and I marveled at how she lived her life after diagnosis - she definitely made the most of time she had.  She received all of her treatment at the cancer hospital that the Toronto Walk benefits, so she will definitely be in my thoughts during the Walk this year.

    Goldie - that is a beautiful clock.

    Ridley

  • Beebop
    Beebop Member Posts: 206
    edited February 2014

    ha, ha Jeannie!  I wanted to ask too, but I kinda had a feeling what it stood for!  

    Got out of the house for a few hours today.  Bought some maternity jeans, lol, but they are really comfortable.  Invited to a Super Bowl party tomorrow and wanted to wear something besides yoga pants.   Although I feel so crappy I might not go.   My sister lost one of her legs in August and when I complained to her today she made me feel guilty by saying she would gladly give up her boobs if she could have her leg back.   I guess it's all about perspective.   I just wish I didn't feel so damn bad.   Sorry, I am totally rambling, but I know you ladies understand.  Thank you for the support.

  • Beebop
    Beebop Member Posts: 206
    edited February 2014

    Ridley - so sorry to hear about your cousin.

  • Jeannie57
    Jeannie57 Member Posts: 2,144
    edited February 2014

    Ridley, I'm sorry about your cousin.

    Beebop, good grief, comparing amputations??? That's what it is. I'm sorry for your sister's loss but don't feel guilty. You're right, you have our support.

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited February 2014

    Ridley... OMG... So sorry. My friend has glioblastoma. Was diagnosed Nov 1, 2012, so its been a little over a year. Just recently she has lost use of her right hand, and has issues with speech from two previous surgeries. I adore her, and it breaks my heart for her. She has such a great attitude though. Just last fall she and her wonderful husband had a vaccine made using her tumor and blood. She had to fly to Europe to get it administered. She has had 4 doses so far. And had good MRIs until this last one which showed growth.... UGH.

    Last week, I lost a classmate to BC. She was diagnosed November 2011... so it was really quick. And totally caught me off guard.

    Jeannie... Yes, I walked my first walk 7 weeks post DIEP. I made it 23 miles that year. In 2012 and 2013 I walked 32 and 26 miles... never made it the full 39.6. My feet just can't take it. Doesn't help that I have plantar fasciitis.

  • Ridley
    Ridley Member Posts: 634
    edited February 2014

    Bdavis - my cousin had the same cancer, and her progression sounds very similar to your friend.  She started having difficulty with speech about a year ago - having trouble getting the words out.  We could still communicate using lots of questions with yes/no answers,  She became paralyzed on the right side last fall.  We noticed she was getting more quiet and tired over the last couple of weeks, and Tuesday morning she didn't wake up.  She passed away very peacefully Tuesday night.   It was very hard to watch her lose functionality as she was a fiercely independent person.  I had not heard of the vaccine your friend had - I hope it gives her more time, despite the progression on the scan.

    Sorry to hear about your classmate - so much cancer all around.

    One of reasons that I keep walking is that all the funds raised go to the research institute of the cancer hospital - "to conquer cancer in our lifetime" - wouldn't that be amazing.

    Ridley 

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited February 2014

    The vaccine is not FDA approved. They paid for the whole thing out of pocket. We used to get together every month, but I haven't seen her for a while now - maybe October or November?... but I have been going through a lot personally (son transferred colleges this winter and my husband is leaving me) so I have been preoccupied. But I don't want to look back and think I didn't spend enough time with her.

  • Ridley
    Ridley Member Posts: 634
    edited February 2014

    Bdavis - You have a lot going on, and I always find that December and January fly by because of the holidays, so don't beat yourself up.  I'm sure she knows how much you care about her.

  • jmb5
    jmb5 Member Posts: 532
    edited February 2014

    I'm still worried about the hardness and pink color of my left breast. It feels a little more swollen and sore than it did yesterday. I spoke to the PS on call earlier today and he said they don't usually get concerned unless it is "angry red" or if the redness or pain seems to be spreading. He also said the antibiotic I'm on should hold off any infection. Both my breasts seem really full and heavy tonight even when I take the Percocet. The left one is really sore around the top into the armpit. My temperature is 100 degrees. I'm wondering if I should make a trip to the ER at the Cleveland Clinic tomorrow. Or I could see if I could get my Tues appointment switched to Monday. I'm really worried about it, but think after this surgery it probably would make sense to have fullness and pain, etc. 

  • jenjenl
    jenjenl Member Posts: 948
    edited February 2014

    JMB - change your appt to Monday and ease your mind.  I felt more comfortable after he looked at mine and confirmed it was ok. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2014

    Jen...one way to check for spreading of pink or redness is to draw a line around where it is right now so that you know if it's spreading. 

  • Michele2013
    Michele2013 Member Posts: 350
    edited February 2014

    Good call Bailey, docs use this as a guide!!!!

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited February 2014

    jmb... Sounds to me that its probably normal being a little over a week out... you will be swollen for weeks. But to ease your mind, perhaps try to get in on Monday. I agree that on the antibiotic it is unlikely you have an infection. And the fever could be related to lung function. Make sure you are using your incentive spirameter for breathing. And I suggest not touching your breasts. You will have hard areas for weeks or months. That is normal. But remember, the important thing is the blood flow be strong. No massage or pushing the tissue.

  • Moviemaniac
    Moviemaniac Member Posts: 949
    edited February 2014

    Ridley, so sorry about your cousin......cancer blows, whatever the form.....

    Jmb.....my doc said if temp hits 101* call........keep an eye on it......just want to add  my voice to everyone else's.....foobs were not soft at first......felt sort of hard, and not much movement, like a soft, warm breast.   I think that fact that the flap is attached to the chest muscle might have something to do with it......that muscle HATES being touched....I really noticed it after my stage 2.....my foobs were rotated and lifted, and my chest muscle was PISSED....they didn't relax and soften up for about 6-7 weeks! (And DO do what Bailey suggested.....draw a border around the redness....then you can be sure if it IS spreading.....)

    I hate this damn disease......uckfay ancercay........

  • shantab
    shantab Member Posts: 11
    edited February 2014

    I wish I read all of the wonderful suggestions you veterans posted prior to my DIEP, which was done on January 16th.  I recently went to the ER after feeling horrible and to me seemed like my abdominal incision was opening (just didn't look right to me). The aggravating part of it was I contacted the PS office during normal hours to speak to the nurse because im no expert on what it should look like to see if she could give me some direction. She told me to take a picture of it and email it to her, the worst part about it all is she NEVER contacted me after receiving my email. To add salt to my wound I called the PS office to make my post ER follow up appointment and was put off for another week. Im just so frustrated at this point its like the office staff doesn't care, I've never had PS before so I don't know what a healing wound is supposed to look like. Sorry for rambling im hurting and just not used to being so dependent. Still can't stand up straight!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2014

    Hey Shantab sorry you are feeling lousy and not getting the medical care you would hope for :(

    What did ER say and when do you see your PS next?

    You are only two weeks out, so I think the not being able to stand up straight is very, very common. Probably too soon to try, especially if you think your abdominal incision is opening. Diep recovery is most definitely an exercise in patience. 

    You have found a great group of women on this thread, though. So glad you found your way here. Lots of experience and support.

    I see you are a HER2 girl. Me too. Hugs.

    Bailey

  • shantab
    shantab Member Posts: 11
    edited February 2014

    The ER docs said it looked fine just granulation tissue setting in. They also just gave me some antibiotics.  That was my biggest scare, didn't want the incision to become infe

  • shantab
    shantab Member Posts: 11
    edited February 2014
  • LucyV
    LucyV Member Posts: 177
    edited February 2014

    jmb- I think you should err on the side of caution. See someone tomorrow. 100 is a fever especially if you are on Percocet which has Tylenol in it. The Tylenol is helping to keep your temperature down. I was on antibiotic and got an abdominal wound infection. The antibiotic I was on did not cover the bug I got. I always say trust your gut and if you think something may be up make them see you.

  • jmb5
    jmb5 Member Posts: 532
    edited February 2014

    My left breast drain went from 2.5 cc's yesterday afternoon and evening to 10 cc's this morning. It was also very thick and goopy. I called the PS on call again to let them know. The resident I spoke to is going to try to get ahold of the fellow on call and maybe my PS.

  • LucyV
    LucyV Member Posts: 177
    edited February 2014

    jmb- maybe they will be able to meet you today. Will be thinking of you and hope you get some answers.

  • Beebop
    Beebop Member Posts: 206
    edited February 2014

    jmb - Oh no, sorry you are having to deal with this.  Thick and goopy does not sound good.  I hope you can get some resolution today.

  • lahela
    lahela Member Posts: 515
    edited February 2014

    Gentle {{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}} to all the ladies having issues this weekend!

  • Zenful
    Zenful Member Posts: 599
    edited February 2014

    Ridley, and Betsy, I am so sorry for your losses.  Damn cancer...  Prayers and hugs for those with healing issues.

  • nihahi
    nihahi Member Posts: 3,841
    edited February 2014

    Sorry to read of the tough times for so many, and I hope things start to turn around towards the "better" side soon, for those fresh out of surgery and those having to get through other potholes in life. 

    I hope to be around, the day someone announces "cancer can now be cured". Someday....it will happen...it HAS to. We've all had too many people we love touched by and/or taken by various kinds of cancer. It never gets any easier, and often makes us "catch our breath"...no matter how far out we are from our own dx.

    jmb....I do hope you are seen by someone quickly to sort things out for you. Your drain output sounds really low...has it always been low?? Most protocols would have pulled them if they were only putting out 2.5 cc's. They do get "gloppier" as time goes on....make sure you are stripping them well, until they are removed. Fingers crossed for you that everything settles down. 

    shantab....it IS too early to be trying to be straight up....you'll get there as your body allows it. Try to eat well, especially good protein amounts, to help with the healing.

    beebop...are you feeling crummy physically (like you're ill) or post-event crummy?? Many people go through "slump and dump" intervals.....give your mind and body some credit and compassion for what you have been dealing with. It truly is a journey of 2 steps forwards, 1 step back, and sometimes a whole lot of steps sideways.

    I think it is a more difficult "comparison" for those who have immediate recons, as the physical memory of what we expect a breast to feel like is so recent. Given that the flap is "our own tissue", doesn't mean that from the very beginning, a flap breast will feel/behave like a normal breast. It won't....it has a lot of healing to do. I think most of the veterans will tell you that things get warmer, softer, "looser", etc with time, but once again, with almost everything related to bc....we have to get through the "waiting period". Better to focus on resting/hydrating/moving within guidelines/nutrition/ and taking things one day at a time.

  • jmb5
    jmb5 Member Posts: 532
    edited February 2014

    Thanks for your encouraging post, Nahahi. I hope that I'm around too when there is an end to cancer. I have been a Relay for Life team captain for 3 years now. We work hard to raise money that will hopefully find a cure some day. Our team is named after my best friend's daughter who lost her battle with neuroblastoma at age 9. That was 2 1/2 years ago. 

    Regarding my drains, I was told they would most likely be removed at my first follow up which is Tuesday. I'm hoping, because they suck. So be honest, how bad does it hurt when they remove them? (And I have been stripping them well. Everything was fine until this morning when my bad left side decided to be thick and nasty.) 

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