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percy4
percy4 Member Posts: 477

God (or the Universe, or whatever you think) sent me a gift today.  Thankfully, my after-surgery, pre-rads mammo was clear, as most of you know, so I will be starting rads on 10 Feb.  I am very upset about rads, with good reason.  Tripling of lung cancer chances where lung is touched, who knows what other poison to the body, and I am especially upset about breast shrinkage, which, in some women, continues for years.  I know some of you have had positive cosmetic results after rads, and I hope that happens to me, but, as I am single and have quite small breasts and the treated breast is already a bit smaller (any change would make it really different from the other), I have to say I do care how it looks.  Especially since what I had was really never life-threatening, how my breast looks for the rest of my life is all I'm going to have remaining after this.  That's how I feel; think what you like.  Still.  I went to the health-food store today to get the aloe, calendula, etc. creams that may help with possible radiation burns.  I was speaking to the young woman in the cosmetic department, and told her what it was for.  She was very nice, and while she was telling me the different cream options, her eyes filled with tears.  I thought she was empathetic.  Then the tears started to fall down her cheeks, and she said "I'm sorry.  My Mother died of breast cancer a few years ago".  She apologized to me, and said she hoped she hadn't bummed me out, as I had told her my prognosis was good, and she didn't want to make me feel bad.  I told her that, on the contrary, she had given me a great perspective check, and, of course, consoled her.  So; when I worry about how my breast might look (which I do), it is always going to be mitigated and minimized by the fact that if I were not so incredibly lucky as to have the prognosis I have, partly because of the radiation I NEED, it could be my children with the tears falling down their cheeks.  Sometimes, you get a sign. xx

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  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited February 2014

    Yes you do.  Good luck with your rads.

    Love n hugs.   Chrissy

  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited February 2014

    Percy, I do understand. While I was terribly grateful to be alive and no longer so sick, having an 11 inch scar from my pubis to way above my navel, plus the scar on my breast of course makes me sad and I'm a fat old 52 year old. I used to have the prettiest torso & tiny waist. The incision even messed up my pretty little Innie belly button. You get past it, but yeah, I agree it sucks.

  • AZ85048
    AZ85048 Member Posts: 2,613
    edited February 2014

    percy4 - Perspective is everything.... thanks for writing this.

  • TB90
    TB90 Member Posts: 992
    edited February 2014

    I think we are all way too hard on ourselves.  Melissa, describing yourself as a fat old 52 year old, and all I see is a gorgeous face.  Percy, I PM'd you, but I will reiterate here that we need to remind ourselves and others of our beautiful qualities.  AND those guys are not so perfect either!  I totally understand the trauma though of us having to be "disfigured" by our treatment.  BC treatment still seems so barbaric, despite all the $$$ for research.  Progress seems so painfully slow.  And having to have mastectomies and radiation, etc. for dcis that is supposed to be non life threatening is also so confusing.  I have been so fortunate in that my son and husband love that I have decided to not have reconstruction.  My son even mentioned that if I had another mx then I could go topless with them on the beach.  I too feel very fortunate to have such a positive prognosis, but have become very aware of the devastation of breast cancer on so many woman, particularly, the younger women.  And on their families.  So beautiful women, grieve the loss of your previous bodies (that is healthy) and then try to accept your new normal and all the wonderful qualities that you still possess and have to offer those fortunate enough to know you.  

  • percy4
    percy4 Member Posts: 477
    edited February 2014

    Thank you.  Even my ex-husband (divorced 35 years ago) sent me an email after my kids told him about my condition.  He said he wanted me to know that any changes to my breast would be "only a tiny part of your beauty".  Wasn't that lovely, coming from someone who's seen me at my youngest and prettiest?  That was great, what your son said.  As long as we don't have the kids with the tears falling down their cheeks. xx

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited February 2014

    It ticks me off royally that I had to have a MX for an such an early stage breast cancer.  At the same time, I am extremely grateful that my cancer was caught at such an early stage.  The way I see it, having both those thoughts at the same time isn't contradictory, it's just human.

    There is nothing wrong with being frustrated with what we've gone through, or angry about how it has changed us (physically or emotionally), but it's also important to have perspective and to recognize that in the scheme of things, in the breast cancer world, we got off at lot easier than most.

    Smile

  • percy4
    percy4 Member Posts: 477
    edited February 2014


    Oh, yes, we did.  Still; I wonder.  If it were a man's condition,and their penises woud get two inches shorter, would it be better dealt with by now? I talked to a nurse, at my gym, and she told me that in a conference about one woman's BC and breast changes, a doc of that woman's own age (50's) said "Well, she's 50, what difference does it make?"  Seriously.

  • percy4
    percy4 Member Posts: 477
    edited February 2014


    Sorry; a woman of HIS own age.

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited February 2014

    Prostate cancer runs in my family.   The treatments men with prostate cancer have to ensure are as bad or worse that we have to go through.  So no, men's conditions aren't dealt with any better and they don't have many good options either.

  • ziggypop
    ziggypop Member Posts: 1,071
    edited February 2014

    I don't think anybody needs to judge themselves for grieving the loss or change to our breasts. No matter who we are or what we are going through, there will always be someone somewhere who is going through much worse than we are - that doesn't mean that our own concerns are trivial - they just are what they are. But, yes, sometimes if I start feeling sorry for myself - it just takes reading through a few of these threads and considering what others have and are dealing with to as you say - put things in perspective. 

    As far as the 'mans' penis? When I went to rads, there were a lot more men than women there, one of the radiologist techs told me that the pain for a guy getting rads for prostate cancer is a hell of a lot worse than for a woman getting it for breast cancer. From the little I know of prostate cancer, it's no picnic. 

  • ballet12
    ballet12 Member Posts: 981
    edited February 2014

    Hi Percy,

    What you posted was so beautiful.  That it was a sign.  I think what Beesie said was also profound, that we do end up with these contradictions, between being so thankful and grateful, and at the same time, profoundly changed both physically and psychologically by what we have gone through.  It's almost like, how can we have these deep feelings when our diagnosis, relative to the larger scheme of things, is not so serious.  I didn't have microinvasion, so I don't even consider that I had cancer (my personal view), but I did sustain major cosmetic changes, which I can see every day.  I do understand your need to feel whole.  I hope that radiation is kind to you. I also hope and pray that after this treatment phase is over, some wonderful things come your way.  You are definitely due. In many ways,

  • percy4
    percy4 Member Posts: 477
    edited February 2014


    Of course; you're both right.  I'm just frustrated, and being silly.  My best friend, Gil, had a prostate cancer they thought was fine.  We are exactly the same age, 57, he was diagnosed 4 years ago.  It looked good, but it's gone to his bones.  Bones are not as bad as other things, apparently.  He can  live several years.  It breaks my heaart.  I know I'm lucky, but really lucky would have been this not happening at all.  The great thing is that I can say both, and all, things here, and be loved and respected.  In real life, people can only deal with this so much.  Thank you all  again. xx

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