Starting Chemo January 6, 2014

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  • Asb
    Asb Member Posts: 99
    edited January 2014

    Just finished a 7 hour infusion day. But counts were still good. And seem much less foggy this time. Anyone have something that works for sleep on the steroid days. I am hyper sensitive to all lights, sounds, and even smells. I barely sleep on those days. Mo gave me a script for ambien, but afraid that will be overkill.

    Sun shower, I love the cut, it looks adorable, and you have beautiful eyes.

    Diamondlil, it looks great. I wore my wig for a little while today but it got itchy so I switched to a toboggan, much more comfy.

    I dug up my old crochet hooks and some left over yarn and made a cute hat last night. Will be getting some more yarn, it was very relaxing, and turned out pretty cute. I even added a bow on the side.

  • Sunshower
    Sunshower Member Posts: 43
    edited January 2014

    welcome chipmunk!  Thanks diamond lil ...I haven't has any bad SE's get. I just got my first treatment Tuesday and am trying to stay ahead of getting sick with the meds.  I like the birds eye shot😉...hope everyone had a good day!

  • Wipa
    Wipa Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2014

    chipmunk

    My oncology nurse said no dental cleanings but if the need to do a procedure the dentist will normally check to see where u are in your chemo regimen before doing any work.  You'll probably be ok since you just started and WBC counts should be fine

    Good luck.  Dentist and chemo, two of my favorite things!

  • tekwriter
    tekwriter Member Posts: 216
    edited January 2014

    Hi all had my chemo today and wooooe and behold my wbc  had shot up to 10.9 unbelievable.  thanks for all the prayers.  I have one more AC, then 12 taxol, and one year of herceptin.  some where during the year I will have my surgery.  they said I may not need the rads after all, it will be a wait and see.  I am afraid of the surgery.  It is going to hurt.  I will have to wrap my head around it.

  • Sam2U
    Sam2U Member Posts: 233
    edited January 2014

    ASB--my mo gave me phenegran for nausea and that helps me sleep,  I have also tried tylenol pm on other nights with good results.

    2nd AC treatment done!!  Help it stops, but the nausea started during infusion.

    We discussed rads today and mo said he would recommend it, as does the surgeon due to the size of the tumor and extracapsular extension of one of the nodes.  Now I have to weigh the risks vs. benefits--where to start?

  • birdlover23
    birdlover23 Member Posts: 54
    edited January 2014

    Hi Everyone,

    Asb - your wig looks great and I love your idea of a separate room for people getting first chemo treatment,  I could have used that this week.

    I started my first chemo yesterday and I am very glad my husband went with me.  Before giving me the chemo meds, I was given Kytril and the steroid, which I did fine with.  Then they gave me Emend.  I had a very severe allergic reaction it.  My face got red, I was sweating and tingling all over, saw stars, very nauseous, I almost passed out.  They stopped it right away and gave me a heavy dose of Benedryl.  That did not help too much at all, so they gave me Compazine.  That did the trick but it took a good hour.  I was really bad off, so nauseous, it was scary, but once I was fine, I ate lunch and then got the two chemo drugs (AC).  I took those just fine.  I will not be getting Emend again.  Has anyone else had any bad reactions like this?

    I was very sleepy the rest of the day from the Benedryl.  Today, I have just been a bit shaky and groggy.  The dry, fuzzy, metal tasting mouth is starting.  All in all, today has been a good day.  My Dad took me to the dr for a shot of Neulastra today and I am fine so far.

    I ordered this today http://www.shop.simplyyouboutique.com/Brian-Josephs-Lash-Brow-Conditioning-Gel-BJ-Eye.htm.  I hope it works.  We'll see :)

    I found this wonderful organization http://crickettsanswer.startlogic.com/.  Please read the background story.  They will give you free hair loss supplies and services.

    I hope you all had a good day today.  I am wondering what tomorrow will bring, but I definitely enjoyed feeling good today.


     

  • Asb
    Asb Member Posts: 99
    edited January 2014

    I am much less fuzzy headed with round two. Hopefully it won't appear tomorrow.

    Tekwriter, have you decided what surgery you will have. I haven't had mine yet either. I will be doing a bmx with te reconstruction. It is very intimidating. It always fascinates me how our bodies react. I am glad your counts are up. Hurray for nuelasta. 

    Bird lover, glad you had a good day. The allergic reaction sounds scary.

    I will try Tylenol pm tonight and see how well that works.

  • Njmom3
    Njmom3 Member Posts: 143
    edited January 2014

    Bird lover, checked out that eyelash and brow saver.  It looks great but does it really work?  Has anyone you know of had positive results?  I love that there are no chemicals should it should not interfere with chemo.  Please let me know.  Thanks!

  • Asb
    Asb Member Posts: 99
    edited January 2014

    There were a couple of people on another forum that recommended it and said it worked, still some thinning but never lost them. And from what I have read most people don't lose them until after chemo and there seems to be more than one round of losing them and them growing back. I just started using it earlier this week. Hoping it works. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    Tekwriter, great news about your WBC! I hope you have as easy a time as I did with Taxol. I lost taste buds for about 36 hours each week, but not to the degree I did with AC. I was tired too, but otherwise it was a piece of cake compared to AC.

    Paula

  • Mor
    Mor Member Posts: 30
    edited January 2014

    Hi all......

    Surgery was a lumpectomy on right breast.

    Had first booster late yesterday morning, around 11 am.  Starting around 8 pm, felt "twinges" in right arm, left toe and fingers.

    At 3 am this morning felt twinge in left breast, slight pain behind right knee, and was very tired.   I am not complaining; it is really not bad at all.  I think it is good that we let each other know what might be expected.  All knowledge is good.  Perhaps it means the Neulesta is doing it's job!

    I still have not written my data about my case so that you could know what I am on, etc.  I hope to get to it in a few days.  

    Keep on posting....others are interested and I find it a good way to vent to people who understand.  I am 76.  Hubby is 79 and not as sharp as he used to be.   He does not understand what I am going through now.  Says I had the surgery and that took care of it.  Thinks I take too many meds and that is not good!  He also keeps asking if I have any more appointments or are they "done".  This from a very caring and good husband who is going through his own trials of aging.  So, I really don't have a good support person at home with me.  

    Thanks for listening.  

    Mor

  • Curlyq1974
    Curlyq1974 Member Posts: 144
    edited January 2014

    Hi everyone!  I have been secretly reading this post for weeks now and figured I should introduce myself.  I was diagnosed 12/2 after a year long saga of test, surgeries, begging for BRCA testing and multiple lumps that I found upon self exam.  My mammo and ultrasounds always come back fine but I just knew.  Thank goodness for awesome doctors who were willing to listen to my concerns!  I am BRCA 2 positive, so it is now a family affair.  My mom and aunt are also both BRCA 2 positive.  No cancer for them - thank goodness!  They both will be joining the bilateral mx sisterhood soon. 

    1/21 started my first session of chemo.  Was a lot of anxiety but so far so good.  Had an episode of bone pain this week from the nulaste that was a lot more intense than I expected.  Accidentally took too much pain meds on an empty tummy and made myself sick.  That was a learning experience that I won't make make again!!!   Hair is starting to thin, but not what I thought it was going to be like.  I keep looking for clumps of hair, but it doesn't seem to be falling out in clumps.  It might be too soon.  I am going to try to hold on to my hair as long as I can.  I don't know why, but cancer can have my boobs, I can deal with chemo and radiation, but the thought of my hair falling out is devastating!  It took me my entire life to get my hair to the length it is, the style I love - and it hasn't done anything to try to kill me!!!   I know it is petty.  And I know it will grow back - it is just the one thing I am mourning! 

    Thank you all already for the support you didn't even know you provided me!  You are all so strong and powerful.  If there is an elite clube that I have to be a member of, I'm glad to be here with you! 

  • Mor
    Mor Member Posts: 30
    edited January 2014

    Welcome CurlyQ........

    Glad you joined our  special club.  

    With regard to hair loss, Which hasn't happened to me yet, but will soon....my cousin told me where she purchased  headwear on the web.  She said they were good looking, well massed, very comfy, light weight and very reasonably priced.  Also washed well.  So I ordered some in advance and was delighted,  in fact, I called and order a couple more.  Privately owned, small company, nice to deal with.  If anyone is interested, it is Topsyturban.com.

    I am almost looking forward to my new head wardrobe!

    Mor

  • Curlyq1974
    Curlyq1974 Member Posts: 144
    edited January 2014

    Thanks Mor! 

    My Dad did take me shopping and bought me a bunch of beautiful head scarfs and turbans.  I know is is completely irrational!  It is just the one thing I am caught up on.  I think it might be fear of the unknown - is my head egg-shaped?  Do I have weird marks under my hair?  Who knows - just don't want to look like an alien!!!  I have also noticed that the beautiful, bald women all have pretty dangly earrings.  That is my weekend shopping trip, to pick out some pretty earrings.  I normally just wear simple stud earrings, but a little dangle will be nice. 

  • tekwriter
    tekwriter Member Posts: 216
    edited January 2014

    Asb I know it sounds radical and I haven't talked to the surgeon or MO yet but I am considering a bilateral mast since my cancer was so agressive and I am a big worrier.

  • Asb
    Asb Member Posts: 99
    edited January 2014

    tekwriter, I have never been a big worrier, but I constantly have cysts in my breast and have for the last 10 years or so and it seems I go for a diagnostic mamo every year. My current tumor was under a cyst, I had it checked out because I had never had a cyst there before. I just don't think I can take the stress every time a new cyst pops up. I just want them gone, although not looking forward to the recovery time and the tissue expanders, but think in the end it is the best decision for me. My MO an BS seemed relieved at my decision. 

    Those of you who have already had surgery are you happy so far with your decision?

    Curlyq, welcome! The thought of losing my hair was the hardest for me as well. I have only had mine shaved for a couple of days, but it hasn't been that bad. I found a wig I like and have been making myself some hats, and will probably add some scarfs to the wardrobe as well. And it is a great excuse to buy some new fun earrings.

  • Warrior_Woman
    Warrior_Woman Member Posts: 1,274
    edited February 2014

    NJMom - The sales person at the Faith and Hope shop told me that brows will thin but not disappear.  She said that a lot of her customers use it and so far so good.  She has been honest with me about other products to date so I don't think she is just trying to sell the product.  

    WBCs are finally close to normal which means I can finally leave the house this weekend.  We have tix to Phantom.  I've seen it before but my husband has not.  I'm glad we are finally getting to do something.  I feel terrible that so much has been cancelled because of me.  DH doesn't complain but it cannot be fun.  

  • Warrior_Woman
    Warrior_Woman Member Posts: 1,274
    edited January 2014

    Tekwriter - I had the BMX for that exact reason.  My mental health is worth a lot.  Asb -I don't regret my decision at all.  

  • birdlover23
    birdlover23 Member Posts: 54
    edited January 2014

    NJmom - I don't know of anyone personally who used the brow and lash conditioner, but I have ready many good things, so I figured it was worth a try.  My MO is happy with the ingredients.

    For everyone wondering about BMX and TE, I had it done in mid-December, two tumors in right breast, none in left.  My one tumor did not show up until I had an MRI.  My breasts were very dense.  I do not regret my decision at all.  I could not stand to worry the rest of my life.  I am only 45 years old.  Recovery is hard for the first 2-3 weeks.  Sleep in a recliner if you can.  Take your pain meds.  Your new unfilled breasts will definitely feel strange for a few weeks, especially once the swelling goes down, until you get fill-ups.  I have only been filled during surgery.  Will go soon for another fill-up, when my WBC count is the highest.

    Hair loss - yes it is worse than losing my breasts.  And yes it is petty, but I would like to keep something of myself.  I just had my first dose dense chemo on Wednesday, so I should have a good week or so until I need to watch it fall out.  I bought a halo, a hairpiece for under scarves and hats.  I think it will look cute.

    Thanks to everyone in this forum.  It is so helpful to have people to talk to and read their advice.

    Susan

  • otceb
    otceb Member Posts: 156
    edited January 2014

    Hi! I just got back from my first chemo treatment, everything went well. I was in and out within 3 hours, did not have to wait much and did not need bloodwork today since I have it on Tuesdays when I see the MO. I was a little nervous before, but still had a great night of sleep, which helps put up with whatever awaits us during the day!  No reaction to anything and feeling fine now, was told by the nurse to take it easy today so that I'm not too exhausted tomorrow. Having Neulasta shot tomorrow at the hospital, will likely do the future ones myself. Taking Claritin now just like people on the board have recommended.

    I hope everyone who had their first treatment today are doing well (dgdm, seanibopp and anyone else).

    tekwriter - i had a bmx (reconstruction will  be later) but I needed it since I had DCIS throughout both breasts. I'm BRCA2 so I knew I wanted them off if any cancer at all was found, so that, as you say, we worry less the rest of our lives. The surgery went really well and I recuperated well. I did have an infection 4 weeks later, but not everyone has one. I also have slight lymphedema in my right arm triggered by that infection, but it's manageable. It's really just you who knows if surgery is the right thing for you or not, and when it is. Since you're going through chemo now, you might want a break from medical procedures before going through something else. Good luck and feel free to ask anything!

  • RHGSR
    RHGSR Member Posts: 774
    edited January 2014

    ASB and those asking about thoughts on BMX

    I had a BMX with DIEP. At the time of my decision all they thought I had was DCIS and IDC in right breast. They were sure there was no lymph involvement and sure nothing on left side. I'm 37 and I just wanted them both gone. Didn't want to feel like I was looking over my should the rest of my life. I'm so glad we went with BMX. Everyone is different - but after my surgery they found additional tumor (ILC) plus positive nodes on right side. They also found extensive LCIS in left. So we were very thankful we chose the BMX. 

    The PS we used actually preferred doing the DIEP with a BMX. Of course now I have to have radiation which may mess up my reconstruction but my PS thinks it will all be manageable. 

  • Diamond_lil
    Diamond_lil Member Posts: 76
    edited January 2014

    hi All, yes I'm currently contemplating future surgery too. I had left mastectomy  in Nov, and I am trying to decide the next step. I am considering DIEP reconstruction left and mastectomy/immediate DIEP right.... I don't even know if that is possible! I won't see a surgeon until June, so I guess there is plenty of time for research. 

    As for this cycle of chemo, I've just woken from my Friday sleep-a-thon (chemo was Tuesday). I seem to sleep for about 15 hours and wake up ready to go!

    Sending peace to you all

    LIL

  • 2ndtime4me
    2ndtime4me Member Posts: 88
    edited February 2014

    Hi Ladies

    Had my head shaved today, Day 19 after 1st round. I had tolerable SE 's this time. Start all over again on Monday. I hope everyone has a good weekend.

  • belleb
    belleb Member Posts: 170
    edited February 2014

    Hi all - I'm day 4 after my first A/C treatment and the exhaustion really hit me today! I could barely get out of bed most of the day. Getting the kids out the door to school was the most active thing I could manage, and that nearly wore me out completely. No drugs today, and no nausea or anything, so that's been nice. I'm also in the "next step" mind frame as far as surgery, etc... I have my appointment with the genetic counselor next Friday. If I am BRCA positive, then I think BMX is the only way to go for me. If I'm not....well....I still keep coming back to the BMX. I've been told that I will need either radiation OR a mastectomy, so that's something to consider too. The idea of not having to do rads, not having to do mammograms for the rest of my life, and not having the same caliber of worry hanging over me is appealing. The fact that it's major surgery, though, is weighing heavy on me too. I'm only 35, I want to give myself the best chance of never having to go through this again!

    Has anyone else been really gripped by "chemo brain"? I paid bills today and it took me three times as long as usual because I kept making errors. I try to read a book and I absorb none of it. I feel like a complete idiot! I even can hear myself having conversations with others and think "I sound drunk!" lol

  • Asb
    Asb Member Posts: 99
    edited February 2014

    I have defiantly got chemo brain,it is so hard to focus, my teeth also feel funny, tight and my head feels like its in a vice. Last round it only lasted a few days. I hope that holds true this time as well.

  • Sunshower
    Sunshower Member Posts: 43
    edited February 2014

    Asb- the description of my head in a vice is right on...i had my first chemo Tuesday and for the past couple if days I feel like I got a bad hangover. Also, my scalp is sore like someone pulled my hair really hard

    Belleb- I was BRCA negative but still opted for a BMX. I don't regret it at all but like everyone says you have to do what's right for you. I just turned 37 and being young was a big factor in my decision.  I wanted to lower my recurrence risk as much as possible. 

    Hope everyone is having a good day!

  • Asb
    Asb Member Posts: 99
    edited February 2014

    sun shower, try coconut oil for you sore scalp. It helps soothe it. The fatigue set in last night, but at least I slept. Who knows what SE today will bring.

  • belleb
    belleb Member Posts: 170
    edited February 2014

    This exhaustion is brutal! I can barely get out of bed today and it's my daughter's 6th birthday. I just can't muster the energy to hold my shoulders back and my head up and not look like a decrepit old woman. It's so frustrating. I'm having a pity party in my room and all I can think of is "I still have 19 weeks of this left?!" I don't see how it's going to happen at this point :( 

  • lisacm
    lisacm Member Posts: 32
    edited February 2014

    belle, you will feel better everyday. My total exhaustion day was Saturday after Thursday chemo. Every day got better, even if just a little better each day. By day 6 I was back to normal. I will be having my second round on 2/6 and I feel just like my old self, with the exception that I find a need a nap after I do something strenuous. You will get better. Everyday. Lisa

  • Crazywabbit
    Crazywabbit Member Posts: 563
    edited February 2014

    belleb, 

      I also find day 3 after chemo to be my lowest. Chemo brain to the point of not being able to concentrate to read expect a short magazine article.   I slept 4 hours this afternoon. Luckily my sister is visiting for 2 weeks and she is doing all the cooking. I think some of it is the chemo drugs having their effect and part the  decadron withdrawal.  It does improve over the next few days.    Just happy I finished round #4 of AC and start taxol in 2 weeks.  Hope to get back to work a few days per week, really unable to work thorough the AC due to being in a medical office full of sick people all the time.  Hope my WBC holds on taxol so I can go back. 

    Barbara

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