I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2014

    Thank all of you so much for the love and concern! DH and I are going out to eat tonight to just sit and quietly process everything. 

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited January 2014

    Alyson,

    Thanks for posting the picture with the paw print.  That's exactly how I felt about my Bobo. 

    hugs,

    Bren

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited January 2014

    We still think of our Cassie who was only with us for 11 years and has been gone over 20 years - she was such a lovely spirit

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited January 2014

    We have pictures of Spot and Puff on our wall, along with a picture of Jesse, DH's dog when he was in college 32 years ago.  He still remembers and loves her.  His mother gave Jesse away while DH was at college.  It broke his heart.  We like to believe that Spotty and Puffy and Jesse (and Tiger and Misty and Pepper and Fleegle and Tony and Blackie and Pete and Cat and Muffin and Tiger Too and Tommy and Cat A and Cat B and Rat) will be waiting for us at the Rainbow Bridge.  You never, ever forget those souls that you loved.

  • Alyson
    Alyson Member Posts: 4,308
    edited January 2014

    This might sound really silly. We moved not long after our beautiful old cat died and one day DD2 said do you know Mum, Shamus has come with us and even now 18 years later there are times when I see a beautiful tabby out of the corner of my eye walking down the hall. It startles me but I am not bothered by it so maybe DD2 is right and Shamus came here as well.

    Tippy our black cat certainly is here.

    Waiting on news of DB who has had heart attack - he lives in Australia. He has had a really bad heart since having endocarditis when he was 28. He got it from an infected scratch when he was on a trip to the north of Queensland. He has had valve replacements and other heart ops in the past so it is rather worrying.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2014

    Alyson....prayers and positive energies for your DB.  Sharing hope with you. 

    We are a part of everything or person we have loved -- and I think more so if we haven't had pre-conceived notions.  It is usually our human species that tend to create barriers and must haves in all relationships and once we do that we face the possibility that we change the free flow of energy.  Shamus did not have that happen and is still comfortable sharing a wee part of you and your life.  How wonderful.

    I don't know how old your DD2 was when she made this origination to you Alyson but young children often feel a much stronger sense of presence than we do. 

    Jackie

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited January 2014

    Ayson -- Keeping fingers crossed for good news about your brother.  It's such a worry.

    Jackie -- when I was little, I had a few episodes of what we call "deja vu", that sureness that I had experienced something "before", however fleeting that feeling was.  I read some years later that many children have the same experience, and of course there are many theories posited about what it means.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2014

    Alyson, sending prayers for your DB.

    A few minutes ago I felt Chloe next to me. It was a sensation of a soft, sweet and peaceful little presence. Then DH came into my office and said his t.v. and done some odd things, going on and off while he was watching a show about a little chimpanzee who had lost its mother. The people were trying to find it a replacement. Maybe Chloe was making herself known to him also.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2014

    Yorkie -- no doubt in my mind.

    Jackie

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited January 2014

    Suzie, Cassie was the name of my daughter.  It jumped right out at me as I was scrolling through.  (:

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited January 2014


    Pip - Cassie was the only dog we ever had - a scotch collie german shepherd cross - got her when our daughter was about 1. She dies when she was 11.

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited January 2014

    And we owned a beautiful collie Shepard cross when we lost our Cassie.  Bizarro world. 

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited January 2014

    Pip - strange karma

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited January 2014

    Alyson, sending good thoughts for your DB.

    I don't know where consciousness comes from, and I don't know if I believe in the existence of the soul. or in an afterlife.  I hope there's one, but I don't know if I believe.  I do believe - if we have souls, so do our beautiful animals, and if there is an afterlife, the animals we have loved and who loved us will be there with us.

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited January 2014

    I choose to believe.  If I a wrong, I will never know because it will just end.  So why not have that hope.  

          

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited January 2014

    Alexandria, in science, matter can only be changed, not eliminated.  Therefore based on that, it would only be logical that our essence would live on, maybe as something else as well.  This would apply to all living things.  Our essence may be comprised of those little electrical charges in our brains. I know mine have left for a better place...hahahaha!

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited January 2014

    Morning Friends,

    It's the usual cold and grey outside.  Typical winter.  I am so ready for spring.

    Tomorrow is the training for my new job.  I lucked out and got a guest ID for the software package they use, so I've been able to practice the last few days and take the training lessons the program offers.  It's a good thing as the platform they use was all Greek to me.  They use a keyboard-based platform and I'm used to using my mouse ... so there's going to be a big learning curve getting to know all the shortcut keys!

    It's so funny, now that I have a new job starting, I am getting tons of work from my own two clients.  Yikes!  I am really grateful for all the work.  Just hoping and praying for the stamina to do 1,000 lines a day.

    Alyson ... I am keeping your brother in my thoughts and prayers.  I hope he'll be okay.

    Yorkie ... My Bobo has been gone for 4 years now, and I still call Tank Bobo all the time.  Tank will do something silly and it reminds me so much of him.  I have a picture of me holding Bobo when he was a baby on my desk where I can see it every day.  Doesn't surprise me at all that you felt Chloe was with you.  I'm glad she could visit you and give you some comfort.

    Speaking of Tank, that crazy dog was barking the other day at a German shepherd going down the street.  That's only the third time he's ever barked in his whole life! 

    I hope everyone has a good start to the week.

    hugs,

    Bren

    PS .. Blue you crack me up!  Even if a bunch of your brain cells have changed into some other kind of matter, you are still the smartest cookie on the block!

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited January 2014

    Blue, I agree with Bren.  Whatever brain electrons you may have lost, you still have more than most people. 

    Anyway, as I said, I'd like to believe.  I'm just not sure I do.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited January 2014

    Yorkie - I sent you a PM.  Just catching up after going on a marathon drive to Portland for a cat show - so I could see the cat I was ostensibly getting (or the breed, should I say).  Yorkie, having just lost my sweet girl, I know the road ahead for you is bumpy, but over time, the pain lessons.  I think you've been there before, though.   Having said that, having not lost an animal since I was a young girl, and being much more responsible for this one, I was surprised how peaceful it was knowing my girl was no longer suffering.   The "missing part" is still hard, though.  I know you want to travel a bit before you commit to a new forever dog, but I keep thinking this will be the second greatest part of lessoning the grief.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2014

    Kam, I PMd you. I'm still very sad, but understand that she passed in the most natural and peaceful way possible. I'm extremely grateful for that. I know we will get a new pup, maybe as soon as this Spring, but I need to know I have all my emotions available to love it. Meaning I want to be past the deepest stage of grief for Chloe.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited January 2014
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    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited January 2014
  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited January 2014
  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2014

    Been gone all day so as a just because though I think I may have left it here before I'll put a copy of this poem about dogs I dearly love:

     
    A Dog's Soul

     

    Every dog must have a
    soul

    Somewhere deep
    inside

    Where all his hurts and
    grievances,

    Are buried with his
    pride.

    Where he decides, the
    good and bad,

    The wrong way from the
    right,

    And Where his judgment
    carefully

    Is hidden from our
    sight.

     

    A dog must have a secret
    place

    Where every thought
    abides,

    A sort of close
    acquaintance that

    He trusts in and
    confides

    And when accused unjustly
    for

    Himself, He cannot
    speak,

    Rebuked, He finds within
    his soul

    The comfort he must
    seek.

     

    He'll love, though he is
    unloved,

    And he'll serve though
    badly used,

    And one kind word will
    wipe away

    The times when he's
    abused.

    Although' his heart may
    break in two

    His love will still be
    whole,

    Because, God gave to
    every dog

    An understanding
    soul.

     

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited January 2014

    a blip from the Wash. Post

    Stop paying so much attention to Fox News, urges Frank Rich in long essay about Fox News. A writer-at-large at New York magazine, Rich argues that Fox News’s audience is old and getting even older really fast; that Fox News’s audience consists of people who’ve already made up their minds about things; that Fox News is splintering the Republican Party.

    “With a median viewer age now at 68 according to Nielsen data through mid-January (compared with 60 for MSNBC and CNN, and 62 to 64 for the broadcast networks), Fox is in essence a retirement community,” Rich concludes.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2014

    (((Chicky))) thank you for that beautiful poem.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2014

    Blue, you have hit on it and done it quite well I believe.  So much on this Earth has energy and vibrates to it even though we don't see or feel it.  As well, we ( as souls of course  ) are very old and have always been here or somewhere in the Universe.  When we get some clues that this is so......often, if we don't understand ....we just assign other reasons.  Still, how to tiny children who can't even reach the bottom pedals of the piano play operatic pieces perfectly.  And, how do some of these children  excel way beyond grade level in school. 

    I have a cousin who came from very poor parents who did not graduate from high school. He graduated from St. Louis University  at the age of 16.  Likely could have done it sooner, but his Mother got sick and he was sent to live with my other Aunt who had him tested and he entered the University at age 13.  No one had a clue he was that smart.  So, where does this come from --  most of us, I do feel, whether we wish to recognize or not are very old souls and now and then some of this knowledge comes through with us.....when we begin anew. 

    I do know that each person will see it as they choose and as it indicates to them.  Belief is not necessary.  I am a huge believer and have been so for a long time.  I don't know that much, but have "felt" it since I was quite small so have had 68 years to either change my mind or continue being extraordinarily comfortable and some time ago I chose the latter way of things.  

    Blue I loved the crazy cat lady starter kit.  About three of those kittens resembled Scottish Folds with their ears down as they were.  They are all beauties in my book.

    Jackie 

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2014

    Chick....I think I just read earlier ( skimming ) that Fox News is going to dry up and blow away.  Maybe it was a part of the same piece you read.  I seldom stop on that channel but when I do......I usually laugh till I hurt over the material and the presenters. 

    Sad to see the Republican party destroyed from the inside, isn't it? 

    Jackie

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited January 2014

    Morning Gals,

    I am so nervous.  I start job training in about 20 minutes.  I haven't worked for someone else in 15 years.  I've been so spoiled setting my own hours and working from home. Luckily, I will still be working at home.  Just not used to having a regular 8-5 schedule.  Need to get this anxiety under control!  My MIL really stressed to me that I need to relax and stay calm.  Just hope I'm not technologically a cave man compared to my coworkers.  I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks!

    It's very cold and snowing.  It's been coming down for hours.  I need to get out and shovel as soon as training is over .... need to get a path to the car so I don't slip walking down the incline.

    Hope everyone has a wonderful Tuesday.

    hugs,

    Bren

    PS ... Mr. Tim always has Fox news on when he's  home.  It irritates the hell out of me.  They always seem like they're screeching out the news or faux news in this case.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2014

    (((Bren))) you'll be fine. Just visualize that first big, fat paycheck!

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