I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2014

    Sounds something like.....don't do as I do, do as I say.  Being on life support ( this is done occasionally I know when a hospital is waiting for a loved one to arrive and say good-bye ) just tends to keep a person's body oxygenated so that they SEEM a bit more alive.  But, this person would not and is not actually alive. 

    I still say ( we are all glad in many cases that Mother Nature works a certain way ) there are some times we are really pushing it, especially as in this case you have a huge problem with the fetus.  Sad, but I think it should have been allowed the original ending.  Why do we think we should be playing God as it were?  Are we in charge now, or is he???   One question turns up another one.

    Jackie

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2014

    Just read about another shooting in a mall....in Md.  Seems ok to canter to all those with guns. But really have to get in on "saving lives" in other ways. 

    Jackie

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited January 2014

    Columbia Mall. Area never quite lived up to its promise. Apparently two employees of Zumiez were killed.   My sons favorite store for BMX shoe bargains and skater clothes.   That's just sad. 

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited January 2014

    Just had a lovely Skype session with our DD - they just moved into their first home. We got a tour - still a bit messy as they unpack but she has a big smile on her face - she loves it. It's only a low set 2 bedroom apartment in a block of 3, but it has a courtyard out the back and a new kitchen!! Nicholas was running back and forward to his bedroom - they've only spent 2 nights there but he seems quite relaxed with the new surroundings. The kitty is hiding out under his bed. They only have a 25 minute walk to the beach and there's a nice park nearby with a children's playground. I was quite critical about them getting such a small place given they have a child, but it's all they could afford and the area is nice. They are not paying much more than they paid in rent, so economically it's good for them - you have to start somewhere. I remember when we bought this house (our first) and how little we had. Luckily they have spare cash for new appliances like fridge, microwave, TV etc. Now we'll see just how house proud she becomes now she owns it :)

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2014

    Just wanted to let my dear friends know that our precious Chloe passed last night. She was sitting next to me on my computer chair and had just gotten a treat of popcorn shrimp, which she seemed to relish. After eating a few shrimp she suddenly turned over and started to seizure. Her heart slowly stopped beating, and then she was gone. She was so old and sick, that I know it was for the best, but still so sad. It's just very difficult letting go. I still feel her presence all around the house.

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited January 2014

    So sorry about Chloe.  The shrimp reminds me of our dog who died right after eating some Oreos.   I hope I am eating something chocolate.  

    (((( Yorkie))))

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2014

    Thanks pip. Yes, she enjoyed life, eating, and her family right up to the last minute. That is a real comfort for me.

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited January 2014

    Yorkie: My condolences.  I know how hard this is, even when our fur babies are old and sick.  Wishing you peace.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2014

    Thank you alexandria. I feel she is at peace now.

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited January 2014

    Dear Yorkie,

    I am so sorry for your loss.  I know Chloe has been sick lately, but it still hurts so much to lose them.  I knew my Bobo and Winston were ready to go, but it didn't make it any easier.  My heart was still broken.  Our puppies and kitties are so much a part of our family and stayed by our side through all the hard stuff too.

    Sending love and hugs,

    Bren

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2014

    Thank you Bren. She turned 16 last November. She was diagnosed with brain cancer, vet's best guess, and had lost half her body weight over the last three months. My whole day, every day, centered around finding things she would eat to keep her going, giving her medicine and changing her diapers. It was stressful and exhausting but I didn't mind. It was a way to care for and love her, which was different from when she was younger but still important to me. I feel at a loss about what to do with myself now. The grandsons are coming over this afternoon so that will help.

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited January 2014

    I'm so sorry for your loss, yorkiemom. Is that Chloe in your profile picture?

    It's so hard to lose a pet.

    Mary

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited January 2014

    yorkie -- it's so darn hard to lose a beloved pet.  So sorry.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2014

    Thanks Mary and C4C. Yes, that is my Chloe a couple of years ago. She was just a shell of her beautiful self when she passed.

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited January 2014

    Yorkie ... Chloe was so beautiful .. no wonder you loved her so much.  I'm glad the grandsons are coming over today to keep you company.  I know what you mean about feeling at a loss as to what to do now.  I spent a lot of time cleaning up after Winston and helping him in and out the back door before he died.  It was so quiet when he was gone.  Will you cremate Chloe and keep her at home with you?  I have cremated my dogs and keep them on the counter with their picture.

    love and more hugs,

    Bren

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2014

    Bren, yes we are having her cremated. I want to combine her ashes with another beloved dog who passed 10 years ago. I've kept her ashes all these years. I want an urn that has the Rainbow Bridge picture and maybe the poem also. I've seen it online so hopefully I can get it and have the crematorium mix the ashes. I also have a lovely urn with both my parents' ashes mixed together.

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited January 2014

    Oh, Yorkie, I am so sorry.  They rip your heart out when they go, don't they?  I hope it is a small comfort to you that she had just had her shrimp treat and was happy -- and that you were right there with her and she knew you were there.  But when they go, the whole house is empty, isn't it?  We have Spot and Puff mixed together, and in time Forrest and Peaches will join them.  Then we will join them, too.  We need a big urn for the whole family.

    I hope the grandsons' visit will help your pain.  Are you considering another pet?

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited January 2014

    I have separate boxes for my lost babies.  Mozart. Zeus. Shantih.  The ashes of two other pets I buried here in my yard, which I kind of regret because we're probably going to sell the house and move to Vermont.  The ashes of Nickie, my last German Shepherd, who was my MIL's dog before she broke her hip in 2003 and who always loved her, are interred with Millie.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2014

    RL, that's what my DH and I keep talking about. Even though extremely frail, she was eating that shrimp with such gusto, right out of DH's hand. Then BOOM, she's gone. I think it was a massive stroke from the brain tumor. Doubt if she was aware of anything, thank God. 

    Yes, we will get a rescue pup when we're ready. I do dread what will happen when that pup is old. We have to set up something in our will to provide for it. With Chloe, my youngest DD had agreed to take her if we passed first. Her life is very different now, so we might need to choose someone else. I think my middle grandson, if we live to the point where he is old enough (knock on wood), would take good care of a dog. He adored Chloe and is very good with animals. 

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited January 2014

    Dear Yorkiemom - so sorry to hear about Chloe - I've lost many pets over the years - mostly to advanced age and it is heartbreaking - my beloved Munchkin (15 years old) joins me in sending kisses and hugs to you - so glad your grandsons are coming to visit today.

    S.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2014

    Sandy, thanks so much for the good wishes, kisses and hugs. Please hug your Munchkin for me.

  • CherrylH
    CherrylH Member Posts: 1,077
    edited January 2014

    Yorkie, so sorry to hear about Chloe. Sending lots of cyberhugs.

  • kad2kar
    kad2kar Member Posts: 336
    edited January 2014

    Yorkie----Hugs and more Hugs.---kad2kar

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2014

    Cherry and kad2kar, thank you and hugs right back at ya! Been talking with my middle grandson about Chloe and his sweet memories of her. What a darling boy. 

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2014

    So short a time we have this un-conditional love and so precious it becomes.  Their only concern is making us happy and I often think they may have no idea of what an excellent job they do of it.  No wonder we mourn so much for them.  Sadly, they almost always have far shorter lives ---  but they are so appreciate.....the smallest crumb given to them from you is like the whole world. 

    Yorkie, I know you gave Cloe  the whole world.  The time will come when you can remember more love and joy than loss.  Healing takes whatever it takes...its personal.  Hopes for peace in your heart soon.

    Jackie

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2014

    Jackie, thank you so much for those beautiful words. Unlike so many animals in this world, my Chloe's life was full of love from birth to death. I do think she showed her love for us by waiting to pass until we returned home from dinner (the shrimp was just a little unexpected bonus!). There is a consciousness beyond that trapped in the body which I believe all living things share. I can still feel her presence around us. My DH said the same thing. 

  • Alyson
    Alyson Member Posts: 4,308
    edited January 2014

    Yorkie great big hugs coming your way. She sound such a sweetie and you will miss her so much because so was so loved. Even if you get another companion she will always be there.

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    Yorkiemom

    "There is a consciousness beyond that trapped in the body which I believe
    all living things share. I can still feel her presence around us. My DH
    said the same thing."  Amen.

    Warming to think of all the love you shared with Chloe, and how she knew, even at the time of transition, being with you.  Very special, our animals.  A very special kind of love.

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited January 2014

    Yorkie - so sorry to here this - I know she will be in your heart forever.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited January 2014

    Yorkie, sending the biggest hugs!  I can still feel Virgil's presence with me.

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