Ladies in your 30's getting FEC-D protocol?
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Gonein40,
I feel the same way- the unknown is hard- I start on Tuesday, and my second chemo is the same day as your first- I'll be thinking of you. When I feel anxious, I find it helpful to talk to my husband, to friends, to pray, and there have been times I have had trouble sleeping during this cancer thing. I have found it best if I wake up and can't go back to sleep to actually get up and read a good book or check my email/facebook for 10 or 15 minutes- then I find I can go back to sleep. If I just lay there I keep getting upset. This week I have been doing a lot of preparing- cleaning the house, getting bills caught up, and this has kept my mind off the anxiety. I feel almost like I am "nesting" like I would do if I was expecting a baby!
I have also thought of trying music to see if this will help nerves, but I have not tried it yet. My husband and I are going out to dinner tonight before I get my PICC line put in tomorrow.
Calmandstrong, I'd love to hear how you are doing if you feel well enough/inclined to post as you are one step ahead of me!
Thanks for the friendship, all of you.
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jetnet and others, I would listen to Bernie Siegel "getting ready -preparing for surgery, chemo and other treatments" and found it very relaxing and motivating! I purchased it from apple and would listen to it if I couldnt sleep and for a few days prior to tx. My daughter is a therapist and suggested listening to relaxation and positive affirmations "tapes". She also was very pleased to see that I made a motivation billboard (mine is actually hot pink zebra fabric!) next to my bathroom mirror and every time I read something that I like, I write it on a post it note and attach! Although I not in your age bracket, I hope this helps a bit. Positive thoughts and hugs!
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well I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one that has trouble sleeping lately. I love coming to this discussion board. It helps me feel more relaxed. I am talking with my husband and friends about my treatments. My husband is a bit more anxious than me, I think his fear in the future of what i am going to go thru is really hitting home. I am really trying to stay calm for his sake. We also have been de-cluttering and preparing ourselves for the really bad days. Let me know if u can how the first treatment is. If you can ok
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well I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one that has trouble sleeping lately. I love coming to this discussion board. It helps me feel more relaxed. I am talking with my husband and friends about my treatments. My husband is a bit more anxious than me, I think his fear in the future of what i am going to go thru is really hitting home. I am really trying to stay calm for his sake. We also have been de-cluttering and preparing ourselves for the really bad days. Let me know if u can how the first treatment is. If you can ok
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well I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one that has trouble sleeping lately. I love coming to this discussion board. It helps me feel more relaxed. I am talking with my husband and friends about my treatments. My husband is a bit more anxious than me, I think his fear in the future of what i am going to go thru is really hitting home. I am really trying to stay calm for his sake. We also have been de-cluttering and preparing ourselves for the really bad days. Let me know if u can how the first treatment is. If you can ok
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Hello everyone,
I haven't posted in a while. I've been busy feeling "normal" actually
Gonein40 and others, I am now a week and a half after my first chemo, and feeling soooo much better than the first week. The first week was for sure the worst. Nausea almost daily, and chemo fog was awful. But by the weekend, I was actually starting to feel like myself again. I am able to do everything I was able to do before. Cleaning, exercise, shopping, going out with friends, etc. I'm also sleeping so much better. The insomnia in the first week (related to steroids) was just awful. It is such a nice feeling to feel like myself again. I'm keeping up with my water intake by flavouring my water with lemon, cucumbers or orange blossom water. I love drinking it when it's flavoured. Plain water was actually making me more nauseous. There is always a light at the end of the tunnel. I am hoping that all my subsequent treatments will be the same, cause I can live with that. I got my hair cut yesterday cause I had really long hair. I'm not getting a wig, but I bought a few hats and scarves, and just waiting for my hair to start thinning/falling out. Not looking forward to that part, but I know it's gonna happen so trying to deal with it the best way I can.
Anxiety is normal. I felt it too of course. But it does get better, TRUST ME. Once you go through the first one and deal with the SE's, you'll know what I mean. My best friend bought me a guided imagery cd: "A Meditation to help you with Chemothearpy" by Belleruth Naparstek and I actually love it. It really helps to just clear your mind. And I'm not really a guided imagery kind of person.
Try different things and you'll find what works best for you. I find that just even going on BCO and "talking" with fellow sisters is extremely helpful. Keep in touch everyone and we can get through this together.
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hello everyone
I'm doing the same treatment FEC D and I'm now half way
I'm happy to be done with the FEC part. Does anybody know if the D part is harder or easier.I don't have a picc line and I was wandering if the D part of the treatment is as hard on the veins as the red devil. I have a superficial clot from it and it hurts when I put my arm in a strait position, the oncologist sended me to hematology but they are not worried . Anybody had this SE from chemo. I'm starting the D next Wednesday and I'm verry nervous.
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Hope everyone is doing well, I'm catching up on my reading and posting.
calmandstrong - happy to hear that FEC is treating you decently and that you are starting to feel normal again.
Mommy13 - good luck next week, we'll be thinking about you on the 27th.
Jetnet91 - hope your side effects are manageable after your first treatment, they do wear off. About the "nesting", I had bouts of nesting before each treatment and yes, they felt like the nesting I went through when pregnant!
gonein40 - I know what you mean about the anxiety related to not knowing. I find what helps for me is to read as much as possible on a subject and be as prepared as possible. We each have our methods, I haven't tried the guided meditation/relaxation slv58 suggested but that seems like a very good idea and I will probably give it a try in the future.
Brioche78 - I have a port, so I don't know how the D is on veins but overall I found the D easier than the FEC. Completely different side effects for me, I found it easier to deal with muscle and bone pain than with the fatigue and fog. Everyone is different though.
Stay warm today.
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hi Ontario ladies...I think I replyed to this thread awhile ago
im an old timer here I guess...did FEC-D sept-dec 2011. You know a lot of the experiences with chemo do fade over time, I actually read through this thread and went "oh ya, I fogot about that" so please girls know that there is a light at the end of this tunnel.
Brioche - I found the D part way way easier then FEC - the gastro issues that a lot of people experience on FEC disappeared with D, no nausea. This was replaced by bone/muscle pain but it was much more tolerable, for me anyway. You can ask for pain meds if your bone pain is bad (I did).
Hang in there all
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Thanks for the encouragement. I have been feeling pretty nauseous, especially the first day when I ate too much before the nausea hit. Hopefully today will be better- it's day 4 for me. When did the rest of you feel the nausea taper off? I know now to take the extra meds as soon as I start feeling nauseous, and not wait at all. Am finding it a challenge to drink enough.
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for nausea I drank Gerolsteiner water - it has natural minerals like magnesium which really settled my stomach. I ok'd it with my onc. For you Canadian ladies they have it a superstore/fortinos/loblaws
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thank you everybody for the feedback on taxotere I feel less anxious. I know everybody react differently to chemo but to know that for some people it was easier is very reassuring. The FEC gave me a lot of nausea so I'm glad to be done. Does anybody have trouble sleeping because of hot flashes? They give me zoladex every 28 days to put my ovaries to sleep because I was strongly positive to er/pr and with the chemo I think I get double wamy. Is there a good sleeping pill that is not addictive that I could ask my mo for?
Have a good night and thank again for the support .
Alexandra
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well I'm glad to hear that your feeling up to par now that you have one treatment under your belt. I also will be thinking of you on my first treatment as we go thru this together. It helps knowing there is someone that can relate to the issues at hand. Keep in touch as I will let you know how I make out ok.
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How is everyone doing??
Tomorrow is my second cycle. Today I'm gonna be cleaning, getting organized again and getting ready. No anxiety, just want to get it over with so I can keep counting down to the last one. That's what keeps me going, knowing there is an end to all this craziness! Good luck ladies!!
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I am feeling better this week, but not 100%. I don't have a great appetite and don't have my full energy level. But I am glad to be over the nausea of the first 4 days! Calmandstrong, I hope your 2nd cycle goes OK. Did you lose your hair? Was it upsetting? I am planning to get a wig and also to go to a Look Good Feel Better workshop next week. My youngest (almost 4) is not happy about my upcoming loss of hair. I want to try to look as normal as possible for her.
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Jetnet91, I started losing my hair exactly two weeks after my first treatment..It hasn't been fun. I got my hair cut last week cause I had really long, thick hair, and it still sucks. It's just messy and annoying more than anything and my scalp is super sore and itchy. It's almost all gone and I think I'm gonna get my husband to shave it all off for me tonight. Decided not to get a wig as I don't think I'll wear it. Just gonna use hats and scarves. Glad you're feeling better...the energy and appetite will return, I was the energizer bunny today so not to worry
Same with appetite, I wanna eat everything in sight...LOL
Have a good night
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Gonein 40, I'll be thinking of you tomorrow when you get your 1st treatment and I go for my second. Hope it goes OK. My plan for tomorrow is to try to stay peaceful, drink lots of water, and eat blandish food. My hair started falling out on day 13 so I had my hubbie give me a buzz cut. Then I had him shave it last Thurs as I was getting a free wig from the cancer society. Unfortunately, our car battery died so I had to reschedule for 2 weeks later. So for now it's hats and looking like that beautiful woman on the Star Trek movie.
Brioche78, did your D go OK?
Calmand strong, did you find the 2nd cycle any easier?
Mommy13, hope yours is going OK.
Did I miss someone currently doing FEC-D? If I did, hope yours is going OK too.
Thinking of all of you.
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I started my treatments today. Yah. It's day 1 that I can strike off the calendar. I know it sounds terrible but I was overwhelmed with anxiety before my treatments started. I cut my hair all off just because I didn't want long strands falling out on me. I just want to get this show on the road to recovery. I don't feel too bad other than tired. I can't believe how many times I've had to go to the bathroom. Drink drink drink. I know it does the body good. Hope everyone is not a wimp like me. Gtg get some rest. Thanks for the great thread ladies. I lol forward to reading them all . Jetnet91 hope your second treatment wasn't that hard on ya. Hope u get your new look soon. Undecided whether or not to get one. Time will tell. Ttyl all
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Hi everyone,
Just wanted to drop in and say I am having the same chemo FEC-D but I have asked to be given Taxol instead of D. Had my first treatment 3 weeks ago and today was my 2nd cycle. First cycle had blurry vision, breathlessness even climbing 8 steps to my door, getting an ECHO to check on heart before next cycle, had soreness in my hands and feet - my soft tissue got sore and inflamed, had trouble walking for a couple of days. There was no throwing up 1st time around but certainly felt like throwing up pretty much the whole week following the first infusion. I had to be given neupogen shots for 2 days as my neutrophil count was below 500 - it should at least be higher than 1000 - so they had to start minting those WBC early, the bone pain was not fun, not fun at all, according to my MO there is a15% chance that would happen, I like to be special
. I will keep you posted as to how my second round will go, today is the night of and am very tired.
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Quasi,
So sorry you've had such a rough go of it. I hope they can sort out all your symptoms and next time will be better. Hang in there!
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Hey FEC-D ladies how is everyone doing?
I did my 1st cycle on the 27th and it wasn't as bad as I anticipated all though it wasn't fun either. I experienced the brain freeze feeling during my last drip so they slowed it down.
It lasted a good 6 hrs which turned into a migraine. Nausea kicked in about 2 hrs after treatment. First day was the worst for sure!! 2nd was not too bad. 3rd & 4th I was exhausted and took nausea pills every 4 hrs.
As long as I stayed on my nausea pills I was ok. Needed a shot on the 3rd day. I got a sinus infection that kicked my ass worse than chemo. Still recovering from that ugh!
Round 2 this Tuesday. Praying it isn't worse but they say it gets worse. I shaved my hair but it still hasn't fallen out.
When does your hair fall out on FEC?
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Mommy13, sorry you had such a hard time with cycle 1! I found my cycle 2 was better since I knew what to expect, I had more anti-nausea meds, and I always have them do the long version (45 min) of the third drug (Can't remember which one it is- the one that gave you a migraine.) My hair started falling out on day 13, so I cut it really short, then shaved it. But I must say some is growing and some is falling out when I rub my head- depends on the day. I am waiting to see what will happen on day 13/14 of this, my 2nd cycle. Seems inconsistent hair loss and I wonder if I could have kept most of it, starting with very thick hair...oh well, too late! I am on day 6 of my 2nd cycle and still very chemo-fogged. Hoping it will be better soon. I hope your second cycle goes better!!! Hang in there.
additional note- just took a shower and my hair is definitely falling out...I guess it does not fall out by itself so much, but a little scrubbing makes it fall out.
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I'm on my day 14 after my first treatment. My hair is slowing falling out not in clumps but rather a strand or two here and there. Maybe if I'm lucky it won't fall out completely. But I understand everyone is different.
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hello everyone, I am on FEC100-D chemo, I am at 12 days post my second FEC infusion, I am experiencing burning feet and they are also tingling, did any one experience that?
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Hi Quasi,
I had a bit of that going on, my feet just felt really gross. I found it changed when I switched to the D, it went more to the tingling than the burning. I found that keeping my feet cool helped so did soaking in cold water. It was temporary relief but helped a bit. Make sure to mention that to your oncologist. When I did he told me to keep an eye on it and report if it got worst. If it had gotten worst he would have looked at adjusting the dosage.
I'm almost four months out of chemo and the feeling has pretty much gone away. I get a bit of tingling in my big toes if I hit them against something but those residual side effects are pretty much gone.
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Is that burning a form of neuropathy? Or is it the start of it, when the burning lessens a bit it turns int tingling, I did not see that E is supposed to cause neuropathy, I am getting really worried, is this reversible? I am mortified of permanent side effects
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for anybody out there done with the entire chemotherapy experience, did you lose ALL you hair on D, I mean I still have some arm hair, should I expect to lose that as we'll? I donot want to lose that as well, I am trying to hold on to ANY hair that I have
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I am on day 17 of my first treatment. My hair is falling out by the handfuls. :-( it's ok thou. Like my sister says. Out with old and in with the new. !!! Yippee.
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My chemo started with weekly taxol instead of Docetaxel and in April I will begin the FEC regimen.
I will be doing 3 cycles of FEC 90 (90mg/m2 of Epirubicin).
I noted that there are some people doing 4 cycles of FEC.
My MO said that 3 cycles is enough.
I would like to have an idea if other people are doing 3 or 4 cycles of FEC.
Can anyone share the number cycles of FEC , 3 or 4 cycles ?
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robsp,
I just finished my third of 3 cycles of FEC this last Tuesday.
Hope yours goes OK.
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