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  • hbott
    hbott Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2014

    Hi, I just found these discussion boards. Wish I would have seen them at the beginning of all this mess! I am done with chemo, I had 4 doses of CT every 3 weeks, I am 6 weeks done tomorrow.  I started rad and will have my 9th out of 25 tomorrow. So far no redness or itching.. i read some many of your post and am interested to see what else will work if aquaphor does not. not sure about the boost thing but I understand that I will be getting those.

    I read Gubbyann's post above. I too have had horrible muscle pain since my third chemo. I felt like the rad brought back some of the flu like aches but the muscle pain gets worse as the day goes by and Advil does not touch it. I take tramadol and that works. I have gotten less head to toe pain and the tingling fingers and toes are better(so glad the hammering of my fingertips stopped!) but now the muscle pain is in my calves, thighs, forearms, hands and biceps.. I guess your most used muscles. Can anyone tell me if they had that and how long till it goes away? I want to get back in the gym but if I do ANYTHING to exert my muscles I suffer the next day. it's crazy! I was able to mop the other day without getting completely out of breath though, so there is progress! that's my word for 2014.. PROGRESS!!!

    Thank you for creating this group Teamkim!

    Holly 


  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited January 2014

    Welcome Holly,

    I also found this website at the middle of chemo. I am 7 weeks post chemo & 1/2 way through rads. My daughter suggested alka-selter. She says it helps with the toxins in our muscles. I tried it and it did seem to help, of course it has aspirin in it. My leg muscles still ache, I am trying to drink lots of water, which is hard in this cold weather. 

    Thanks for my new buzz word....progress....I hope it's speedy :)

  • TeamKim
    TeamKim Member Posts: 568
    edited January 2014

    Welcome Holly!

    I had the same chemo regimen as you did, and I am about 5 weeks out -- I still have some numbness in the middle three toes of each foot, but as long as I wear loose and comfortable shows! it's not too bad, and might be slowly getting better.  I start rads tomorrow, so will see if the muscle aches hit me as they have you.  

    When I met with my MO last week, he recommended that I go on a daily aspirin (one regular aspirin, coated, or two baby aspirin).  Since we were discussing both Tamoxifen and Zometa, I am not sure which of the drugs' SEs the aspirin is supposed to help.  

    Also, during chemo my MO suggested L-Glutamine powder to help with muscle and nerve healing, so that might help you as well.  I bought it (powder form) in the drugstore, but it is available on Amazon and other online sources.  You just sprinkle it on food or stir it into juice -- it really has no taste. 

  • Pokemom1959
    Pokemom1959 Member Posts: 198
    edited January 2014

    Good luck tomorrow Kim, my OC sister!  I'll pray for an easy treatment for you with no side effects.  

    Do you mind if I ask who your surgeon was?  Michele Carpenter is doing mine.  I've heard good things about her from several different sources.

    Debbie

  • TeamKim
    TeamKim Member Posts: 568
    edited January 2014

    I had Cary Cullinane in Long Beach as my BS -- I LOVE her -- she is so skilled, yet speaks in plain English and is so very compassionate and caring.  My PS, MO and RO are all in Los Alamitos.

  • Gubbyann
    Gubbyann Member Posts: 34
    edited January 2014

    Hi Holly, so sorry you have a lot of body aches and pains...I say body because it usually is the whole body, although my left leg and hip hurt so bad I want to scream...Been going on since Friday...Has subsided somewhat...If it's not to bad, I take 3 advils, and that seems to work, but not always...Need percoset the whole weekend...I talk to my RO nurse since he wasn't in...She did not say much, but will see him tomorrow...I no that these aches and pains are residual from chemo, but don't no how much Rad plays a part in it...The RO nurse didn't think it did...Anyway, I had my 13th rad today...Feeling no changes except the color of the area around the nipple changed..Like a medium brown...And maybe a little tired...Not a good sleeper even under normal cicumstances.....

    Holly, I hope all goes well with you....The neuopathy will subside in time like everything else....Just wish it would hurry up and do it now.....I like to walk and exercise also...Did it every day...Lost over 50 pounds, and was feeling the best I ever had in my life, when I got diagnosied....I am feeling much better now, but still a long way to go,,,as you do too...It will happen, just hang in there

    You mentioned Aquaphor...It works well, but I also use Udder Cream (udderly smooth ) and Aloe if you want...You can find the udderly smooth in Walgreens...It's inexpensive and it works...Been using it for a long time...Even through chemo, when my hands bilstered form the dam Taxotere...

    You take care...Hang in there,,,They say the Good Lord never gives us anything that He thinks we can't handle, well I for One will not dissapoint although this is a tough one.....Hugs

  • LizzieK
    LizzieK Member Posts: 67
    edited January 2014

    Hi smrlvr

    The reason I am going to MGH is that I had laryngeal cancer almost three years ago and was treated at MGH because it's a rare cancer and they have a center that treats 100s.  Because I got the maximum amount of radiation to my throat I was worried about getting more radiation for this cancer and did a consult at MGH.  As far as I know the short treatment is only for early Stage I with no lymph nodes and they don't offer it in Albany yet.  I don't know how far along you are in treatment but almost all insurance companies let you go out of network for a second opinion.  After my previous experience I am a big fan of second opinions at major medical centers like MGH.  If they verify the treatment they are planning for you in Albany then you know you are on the right track.  If not, you hear what other options there are that aren't available here and go from there.

  • Rlsteadman
    Rlsteadman Member Posts: 76
    edited January 2014

    Had my 8/30 treatment today. I am starting to get an itchy rash along the midline. I am using RadiaPlex RX. It is a prescription. Now I am using a little 1 % hydrocortisone cream where I itch in addition to the RadiaPlex. Feeling a little down today at my radiation appointment and worried about all the decisions I made. Sometimes reading all the discussion group posts makes me second guess all the decisions I made regarding treatment.  How does everyone keep thinking positive thought?

  • Gubbyann
    Gubbyann Member Posts: 34
    edited January 2014

    Hi, RIsteadman....I think we all go through this second guessing ourselves at one time or another...It's normal...I have second guessed myself a few times....But I keep thinking that I have gone through the chemo, and made it through despite all the side effect, and hey, I am still here and feeling pretty good right now, and I only have the rad to go through...I have 20 left...Before you know it, it will be over soon, and by spring there will be a better and improved me...Thats how I try to think when I get up everyday...I have to think that way to keep me going, and you do too...Having a great family and friends support helps too...So just keep thinking you made the right decision, which I am sure you did...Hang in there...Your Spring time is right around the corner too..Take care and God Bless

  • rosie9037
    rosie9037 Member Posts: 12
    edited January 2014

    Today I had my second day of double rads, six hours apart.  They won't do a third because they are afraid of skin breakdown.  So far I am red, underarm is very red and last night it was burning.  Used Aquaphor and that helped. Tired, even though I am trying to get more sleep and have cut out most of my activities. 14 of 25 down. 

     I also have some other side effects and not sure if from the rads.  Breast is sore, especially around incision.  After surgery I had trouble maintaining body temperature-first hot then cold.   Eventually it went away.  But it is back with rads.  Especially getting hot at night, I get so hot that it wakes me up. I am post menopausal and haven't started the Aromasin as yet..  Anyone else have this problem?

  • bondsy
    bondsy Member Posts: 94
    edited January 2014

    Rosie, I am also having the same problem with regulating body temperature. I am usually (pre-cancer) always hot, but these days I am always cold. I used to never need the heater on, even in winter (I live in California) but these days I'm running the heater full time. But, at night, I turn the heater off and I get really hot! It doesn't make sense at all. I'm also post-menopausal and done with hot flashes, so I'm confused by all this. 

    My biggest side effect so far from rads is my breast is swollen, and my nipple is so sore and painful. And the nipple color is much darker than usual. I'm taking Aleve for the swelling and pain, and that's helping somewhat. Tomorrow is day 14/25. No itching yet.

    Gubbyann, I love your positive attitude. I'm also trying to take it all one day at a time. I do whatever the doctors tell me to do and don't try to second guess everything. I feel like I'm just moving along, like floating on a raft in a river, and will eventually come to the end of the ride. Trying not to think of the future or the past, trying to stay in the moment is helping me get through this.

  • annika12
    annika12 Member Posts: 433
    edited January 2014

    got my last 2 tattoos yesterday , starting rads Monday the 27th 33 total :( . I enrolled in a skin study so had pictures taken !!! 

  • MrsDarcy
    MrsDarcy Member Posts: 162
    edited January 2014

    Good morning ladies.  Looks like I got too excited too fast about my rads :(.   Yesterday I had terrible swelling, red and purple areas and itching.  The techs sent me to the nurse and between her and my RO I got sent home with prescriptions for Flamazine and Aristocort, as well as full breast Flamazine and bandaging to keep on for the night.    Yesterday was my last full breast treatment and today I start 4 days of boosts.  

    I picked up the prescriptions at the pharmacy along with my first bottle of Tamox.  I felt so crappy by then, tired, pain, itchy and bandaging on a swollen breast - lol, wasn't a happy camper!!

    Needless to say I came home and made red velvet cupcakes and knocked quite a few back with a cup of tea.  

  • Gubbyann
    Gubbyann Member Posts: 34
    edited January 2014

    bondsy....I too am done with menapause, but still get hot flashes and I am 62...It never really stopped...It's just in our makeup, this is who we are...But since my chemo and Rad I get them a bit more...I think it will stop once all our treatments are done..My breast isn't sore yet, although my nipple has gotten darker in color and a little reddend...I use Udderly soft cream , and Aquaphor...And my breast always hurt, and always sensitive...Have been my whole life, so I can't help you with that...What does hurt me a lot are my bones and mucles...Aches and pains through out, but what really hurts is my entire leg and hip, the rest seems trivial in comparison...I take 3 advil and it usually helps but now I am taking Percoset....Going to talk to RO this morning...I just hate taking all these pain relievers...

    As far as atttitude goes, what choice do we really have??...We can just lay down and do nothing or we can fight...I chose to fight...Oh yes, I have bad days, but who doesn't??...You somehow just get through it and continue on...You hang in there friend, and you will see that in the end every thing will be just fine.....Take care and God Bless

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited January 2014

    Junipergirl, 

    Yikes, that sounds painful & itchy. I hope the prescription helps and you get through these last few treatments. You should be done by Friday, correct? Happy Dance, more cupcakes & tea!

    I also love red velvet. Let us know how it all works out, my skin is rashy, itchy, I still have 14 more zaps.

  • peaches12
    peaches12 Member Posts: 67
    edited January 2014

    Just saying 'hi' and hoping all are doing well.  I will be half finished rads tomorrow- 13/25 and no boosts.  Time flies when you're having a good time, huh?  I thought last week I was getting a little pink, but it must just have been the lighting in the rad dressing room.  At home with my bathroom lighting I am not pink at all, skin looks completely normal actually.  Saw my RO today and she took one look and said "Just keep doing what you're doing!"  I'm doing Miaderm and Calendula in between the 3 Miaderms a day.  Also have Aloe Vera and Aquaphor on hand if needed.  The Aquaphor is soooo greasy, much prefer Miaderm/Calendula.  I don't expect to have 2 1/2 more weeks with no skin irritation, but everyday gone is one less day I might have a problem, so I take it day by day.   Never forget, if we got through chemo we can get through anything!

  • Cari3047
    Cari3047 Member Posts: 25
    edited January 2014

    Tomorrow will be a week since I finished rads and just thought I'd check in.  My RO had told me my skin would continue to burn for up to 5 days after the last treatment.  On the 3rd day after treatment I had a spot under my arm near the pit that hurt so bad it woke me up.  A small area of skin had turned almost black and was very tender. Two days later the skin broke and it looks like raw meat underneath. It's not painful anymore, but looks bad.  

    The area is very high up in my arm pit and I don't think I was putting aquaphor up that high, so this might be the reason for the break. The rest of my skin has held up well and my dark red color is turning into a deep dark tan.

    Our celebration cruise on Friday is now on hold because my husband had an emergency appendectomy this morning!  We are quite a pair!  lol

  • SallyS70
    SallyS70 Member Posts: 947
    edited January 2014

    Cari, am so sorry to hear that your cruise is on hold ... hoping that DH came through surgery without complications and will recover quickly.  Let us know that your area of black skin is healing well.

  • SallyS70
    SallyS70 Member Posts: 947
    edited January 2014

    Hi all,

    Had treatment 12 of 32 today.  Someone on another thread talked about the rad fatigue feeling like a heaviness rather than sleepiness.  I noticed that my legs felt heavy as I walked into rads today.  The sensation passed rather quickly but reminded me of the previously read post.  Since I am on anaztrozole, I know the feeling might be related to that rather than rads.  I have also had mild nausea today which I will mention to my RO at tomorrow's appointment.

    peaches, thanks for the reminder to take things day by day ... I really need to remember that now because when I do, I feel better.

  • DawnCT
    DawnCT Member Posts: 143
    edited January 2014

    Officially a Rad Grad today! I had 25 treatments and my skin is doing pretty well. I am pink but don't have any blisters. I have a rash in the chest area but it seems to be improving.   I almost didn't make it because we are in the middle of a big snow storm.  There was already about 3 inches on the ground so hubby drove me.  I was glad not to have to postpone the final session!

    The two techs made up this glove for me  - I thought it was very creative and cute. 

    Keep plugging away girls and you will be soon be done too!

    image

  • DawnCT
    DawnCT Member Posts: 143
    edited January 2014

    Junipergirl - So sorry you are having a problem. At least you are almost done  I found the boosts to be easier because they are not to the whole breast.  I hope they are easier for you too.  Red Velvet cupcakes - yum!   

    Peaches - Glad it's going so well.  You never know, you may only get tan and not burn! 

    Sally - I have that heaviness feeling from the rads.  That is exactly how I would describe it and would think that the rads are causing it for you.  Yes, we have better days to look forward to.  It is one day at a time.  

    Cari - Hope hubby recovers quickly!  Thank you for continuing to post.  I am right behind you and it helps to know what might happen next.  Hopefully no more side effects for you!

    Dawn

  • Hydavis42
    Hydavis42 Member Posts: 52
    edited January 2014

    Hi ladies I completed my 9th treatment today. I noticed a little red on my skin today and some itching from time to time not too bad but I'm trying to just keep taking one day at a time. I feel a bit fatigued in the afternoon and I just don't know if it's from the rads chemo or the tamoxifen. Are any of you experiencing the backaches and muscle aches and bone pain after chemo? What do you do or take to relieve it?

  • MrsDarcy
    MrsDarcy Member Posts: 162
    edited January 2014

    :0). First boost done and the creams of last night helped tremendously.   Going to slather them on again before bed.  The boosts are longer because they hav to do a scan each time but the radiation itself is nothing.  Three more to go :).    

    Cari - "ouch".  Amazing how an invisible (to our eyes) beam can cause such skin issues.   

    Dawn - Congrats!!!!!!!!  What an amazing feeling that must be today :)

  • algranna
    algranna Member Posts: 61
    edited January 2014

    I have been reading your posts for months now while getting ready to start radiation. I was supposed to start in December but due to having another surgery to get clear margins it had to be delayed.    I was wondering if you are able to wear a bra while going thru treatments or are you too sore?  Also do you have to completely undress for the treatments?  Was trying to figure out if I want to go before work or afterwards. 

    I enjoy reading all of your posts. 

  • SallyS70
    SallyS70 Member Posts: 947
    edited January 2014

    Congratulations Dawn.

    algranna, I only undress from the waist up.  

  • candi07
    candi07 Member Posts: 188
    edited January 2014

    Algranna, I only get undressed from waist up. There is a woman that gets treated before me at 7:30 a.m. she wears her work clothes and goes to work right after. I only wear my bra when I'm out, when home I don't and its not because of discomfort but because of the creams and ointments I'm applying througout the day....I work from home which makes it easy to stay lubed up. 

  • jpteacher1
    jpteacher1 Member Posts: 52
    edited January 2014

    I have arthritis in my shoulder, neck and hand.  I went for my simulation last week and will begin radiation therapy in the prone position next week.  Any suggestions for making this experience a little more comfortable?  My hand fell asleep and my shoulder hurt during my simulation.  I am thinking about bringing in a wrist guard to help with my hand, but I don't know how to prevent my shoulder from hurting.  I want to do the prone position because of the positive outcome.  Any suggestions? 

  • DawnCT
    DawnCT Member Posts: 143
    edited January 2014

    Thank you Sally!

    Algranna - I also undressed just from the waist up.  I have been able to wear a bra the whole time but wear a comfortable one preferably cotton.  

    jpteacher - I just wanted to tell you that the actual rad sessions are much much shorter than the simulation.  Perhaps that will help. 

  • rosie9037
    rosie9037 Member Posts: 12
    edited January 2014

    Bondsy--glad to hear I am not the only one with the temperature problem.  I have finished 14 of 25 and my breast is sore at the nipple and incision; some swelling, but mostly underarm.  I try to avoid meds, but yesterday had to take an extra strength tylenol.  Helped some.

    Gubbyann--I am way past menopause; had severe hot flashes after hysterectomy (at age 50).  Did estrogen therapy which took care of that.  Sorry to hear that yours never went away and that you continually have breast pain.  What a bummer!

    Algamma--we undress from the waist up, put on a gown.  When we get to the radiation room, gown comes off and they give me a small piece of cloth to cover up while I get on the table.  After adjusting and positioning, they fold back the cloth to expose the breast being treated.  At the end, I am recovered, get back into gown, and go back to the dressing room to dress.  And I have been able to wear a bra, but not an underwire.  I wear a soft cotton bra or sometimes a surgical bra that zips in front.

    Annika12--I enrolled in that same skin study.  They took pictures, ask you to fill out a short questionnaire once a week on your pain and any skin problems.  At the end, they will take pictures again.

  • TeamKim
    TeamKim Member Posts: 568
    edited January 2014

    Dawn -- Congrats!!!  We are doing the happy dance with you!  

    Gubbyann & Peaches -- loving those positive attitudes!  I am trying to think of the zaps as healing light and hoping the positive thoughts will send out vibes to the universe!  

    Algranns -- I also undress only from waist up and put on a gown and robe. I can leave my earrings on, but take off my necklace that I always wear.  They have me pull my left arm out of the gown and robe before I lay on the table, but keep the non-BC side covered during the zaps.  I am going after work, on my way home.

    Bondsy, Rosie, et al -- Add me to the hot/cold roller coaster crowd.  My menopause hot flashes were far in the review mirror, but I find lately my head gets hot, so I take off my hat, then my head gets cold -- off, on, off, on..... Sigh.    During the night I wake up cold, pile on blankets, then wake up sweating.  I was having these problems before I started with rads and tamoxifen.  Wondering if it is a belated SE of the chemo, or maybe because I went back on vitamins a couple weeks ago (they were forbidden during chemo by my MO).

    Cari -- fingers and toes crossed that DH is recovering well.  Owiiieeee with the skin break.... That just sounds yucky!  Too bad the cruise is on hold -- you will get away when you both can enjoy it and do the happy dance together.

    Everyone who lives in the path of the Big Chill -- please be careful and drive safely.   I hope this spell of weather passes quickly.  I am thinking of you all and praying for your safety.  The extremes in weather don't help our temp regulation woes either -- it has been in the 80's in So Cal the last couple of weeks, too hot for hats and wigs.  My fuzzy bald head is not able to stand the sun though.  Still, I am glad not to have to bundle up like some of you gals in the northeast!  My DS just went back to college in Ithaca, NY, on Monday -- just in time for -20 wind chills tonight -- he has had a 100 degree difference in the space of a few days!

    I have only had two zaps, but unfortunately my girl is a little sore already -- she definitely doesn't like this treatment.  I get zaps from two angles, and I can actually feel it from the second angle -- doesn't hurt, but feels kind of like my breast clenches up a bit.  I have had some shooting pains in my nipple tonight -- kind of like the zingers I had as I healed from the Lx surgery.  My order of Miaderm came from Amazon today, so I slathered it on after treatment this afternoon and will put on more at bedtime.  Planning to use it 3 times per day and use 100% aloe between in morning and emu oil between in evening.  After my simulation, the tech drew a line on me around the radiation field and I was surprised how big the area is!  If I put my arm in the air, it is about a 12 inch square that takes in my armpit and side and goes about an inch below my lowest scar in the crease below my breast.  

    2 down, 28 to go.  One day at a time, one breath at a time, Spring is coming.......

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