I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

Wahhhhh ... with the wind chill, it's 26 degrees out.  I can hardly drag my ass outside to walk the dogs.  I need some of Kad's sorts!

C4C - on the meme "cutting of your nose to spite your face," it now carries through into it's next closest relative "hypocrisy" amongst the Obamacare haters:

Partner has emergency surgery.  Bill from hospital arrives.  Yikes, ten's of thousands of dollars!  From the person who won't pay for Obamacare, and is prepared to pay for their own bc surgery, bill is reduced to 1/3.  Then bill reduced to $100.  "Didn't ask for the bill reduction, nor did the partner....it feels weird, but I guess I won't fight it because now my lx is a bmx."

Who does this person think is paying for her and her partner's surgeries?  Santa Claus?

Bren  - sometimes rinsing with warm salty water is soothing, and healing...YOU TOOK THE SUTURE OUT YOURSELF.  auugghhhhhhhh...

Mr. Shining Example of we won't say what!!!!

Jackie - love the last one - LOL!!!!

I wasn't going to bother and then I thought.....its prime time stupidity.....no one even cares to check as long as it is another jab to the left .  Of course, since their audience isn't too discerning or bright either, who cares its a few points off.  No one seems to care that they don't even like C FATS Christie anymore  as well. 

Go Chickadee**********

Jackie

Last but not least -- a little debunkery going on here:

Obama has done more to unite this nation than any president since Lincoln. But look at the lying racists, gun nuts, and hypocrites he’s up against. Meme by Elisabeth Parker for AI.

1) Obama takes too many vacations.

 FACT: As of August 16th of 2013, Obama had taken 92 days of vacation vs 367 for George W. Bush.

2) Obama has divided the nation.

FACT: Obama has done more to unite this nation than any president since Lincoln. But he’s up against a phalanx of 21st Century separatists, racists and neo-fascists, some of whom have openly proposed seceding. Here… let me hold that door for you. Besides; who’s dividing the Republican party into right wing and ultra-far right wings? Is Obama doing that too? Nope. Look in a mirror Teabigots.

3) Obama’s policies are bankrupting America.

FACT: Reagan added $1.9 trillion to the debt. Bush Sr. added an additional $1.5. Clinton added $1.4. Dubbya added $6.1. Obama has added less than $3.0, the bulk of which was to offset the effects of the Bush recession. Who holds that debt? China; $1.2 trillion. Japan; $900 billion. The Fed; $1.6 trillion. The public; $3.6 trillion. Government trusts; $1.9 trillion. Social Security; $2.7 trillion. So nice try, but no Kewpie doll for you

4) Obama’s a socialist.

 FACT: Hardly. Obama’s economic and social policies are to the right of Kennedy’s, Eisenhower’s, Nixon’s, and even some of Reagan’s. If Obama’s a socialist, then Eisenhower, who had a 91% top tax rate, was a Republican Marxist.

5) Obama lied about keeping your present healthcare insurance.

FACT: Lying and being wrong are two different things. Obama turned out to be wrong, but he didn’t lie. He appeared before the cameras 28 times, repeating the exact same words — “If you like your present policy, you can keep it,” knowing full well he was being recorded each time. If you believe any president would deliberately set himself up like that, then Fox News is indeed the place for you.

6) Obama’s weak on foreign policy.

FACT: Osama bin Laden, the man who murdered 3,000+ Americans on 9/11 is dead. Muammar Khaddafi, the man who blew 300+ Americans out of the sky is dead. More al Qaeda terrorists were taken out under just Obama’s first three years than during the entire 8 years of Bush’s “War on Terrorism,” where we somehow managed to wind up in Iraq; a country that offered asylum to zero terrorists. ‘Nuff said.

7) Obama has taken sides with the Arabs against Israel.

FACT: “I think that from my point of view as defense minister they (American/Israeli relations) are extremely good, extremely deep and profound. I can see long years, um, administrations of both sides of political aisle deeply supporting the state of Israel and I believe that reflects a profound feeling among the American people. But I should tell you honestly that this administration under President Obama is doing in regard to our security more than anything that I can remember in the past. In terms of the support for our security, the cooperation of our intelligence, the sharing of sorts in a very open way even when there are differences which are not simple sometimes, I’ve found their support for our defense very stable.” ~ Ehud Barak, former Prime Minister of Israel

But what would he know?

8) America is less safe under Obama than ever before.FACT:

3,000 Americans killed by al Qaeda on 9/11, when George W. Bush was president. Zero successful al Qaeda attacks on America under Obama. Do the math.

9) Benghazi is Obama’s 9/11.

FACT: There were 13 attacks on American embassies during the Bush years, resulting in some 100 deaths. But Fox News and their reich-wing cohorts has never mentioned them. Benghazi is something that happened to us, not something the administration did. I’m sorry you haven’t gotten the memo, but Benghazi is just another Fox non-story. Same with the IRS “scandal.”

10) ObamaCare is Obama’s 9/11.

 See #9.

11) Sandy Hook was Obama’s 9/11.

See a shrink.

12) Solyndra!

FACT: Solyndra was a $500 million loan that didn’t pay off. How much is $500 million? That’s how much the Bush administration spent every 18 hours on the Iraq War for five years – an expense no Republican ever complains about. And what was our reward? 4,500 Americans killed, at least 100,000 Iraqis killed, another 2 million Iraqis driven from their homes, the emergence of the Shia awakening, and our reputation in a shambles. Thanks Republicans. And you’re upset about half a billion spent on Solyndra.

13) Iraq is falling to al Qaeda due to Obama’s policies.

FACT: Had we not invaded Iraq in the first place, a war Obama opposed 12 years ago, we wouldn’t be seeing Falluja falling to al Qaeda. And who was it that wrote the timetable for our Iraq exit two years ago? Oh, yeah; the Bush administration. You might just as well blame Obama for Bush’s recession. Oh, wait — you do that too!

14) Obama’s policies are anti-business.

FACT: The Dow Jones when Clinton entered office in January 1993 was at 3,300. When he left office in January 2001: 10,662. Dow Jones when Bush left office in January 2009: 9,034. Dow Jones today: 16,437. The Dow has more than doubled in just the first five years of the Obama administration. Yes…. Businessmen just hate that.

15) Obama’s policies have resulted in massive unemployment.

FACT: When George W. Bush stumbled into office in January 2001, he inherited a 4.3% unemployment rate from Bill Clinton. When he left office 8 years later, the unemployment rate was 9.7% and rising fast. As of today, that number is 6.7%, no thanks to the Republicans in Congress who’ve done everything within their power to sabotage the recovery.

During the eight years under George W. Bush, his policies created just 1 million jobs (with another 2 million in the military). Since Barack Obama was sworn in five years ago, 7.6 million jobs have been created, and there are still three years left in his term. So, nice try.

16) Fast & Furious.

FACT: Another poorly conceived program left over from the Bush administration that the GOP is trying to pin on Obama. Move along.

17) Liberals always try to deflect from Obama’s record by bringing up Bush.

FACT: Wrong-o, Bozo. We just like to rub your noses in your hypocrisy. By intentionally ignoring, or even lying about Bush’s record and focusing instead on the above Fox News lies, you’ve liberated yourselves once again from those pesky facts. So it’s become incumbent upon us to set the record straight. To the contrary, conservatives are always trying to deflect from the failures of the Bush years by telling the aforementioned lies.

18) The deficit has skyrocketed under Obama.

FACT: The budget was balanced when Clinton left office in 2001 (in fact, he left Dubbya with a $300,000,000,000 surplus).

Eight years later, Bush left Obama with a $1,413,000,000,000 deficit and a 9.8% deficit/GDP ratio. Most of which was due to Bush’s deficit-spending on the Iraq War, Medicare Part D and the two tax cuts that largely went to the wealthy.

“Remember what Reagan taught us. Deficits don’t matter.” ~ Dick Cheney.

Since Obama’s election:

• 2010 — $1,294,000,000,000 8.7% deficit/GDP
• 2011 — $1,300,000,000,000 8.4% deficit/GDP
• 2012 — $1,087,000,000,000 6.8% deficit/GDP
• 2013 — $680,000,000,000 4.1% deficit/GDP
• 2014 — $560,000,000,000 3.3% deficit/GDP

See a pattern developing? Furthermore, the United States is now producing more oil than we import. Our overall trade deficit is at a four year low, as imported oil continues to decline. GM, Ford and Chrysler are all chugging along nicely, no thanks to a unified Republican/Teabigot party, who were eager to sacrifice 2 million American jobs on their altar of Obama Derangement Syndrome.

The trade gap has fallen 12.9% to $34.3 billion as Obama’s policies have made American products and services more available abroad, while Americans are increasingly buying more domestic products. The trade imbalance is now lower than at any time since the beginning of the recession, and the offshoring of American jobs has (finally) slowed to a trickle.

Our trade gap with China is down 6.7% (largely based on their taste for American cars — see above), our trade gap with Japan is down 8.4% and our trade gap with the European Union has dropped a whopping 29.4%.

Are things perfect? No. There’s still much to be done. But the rumors of Barack Obama’s “failures” have been greatly exaggerated, and it’s time to call these talking points what they are… lies. This president will go down in history as a man who achieved some amazing accomplishments, especially considering the unified opposition he’s had to endure since Day One.

So there you have it Fox News “patriots,” all your talking points shot to hell in one FACT-based document. How do you like them apples, bitches?

E - good to "see" you - if I still lived in SC I'd come visit you - did you know that Aiken is the home of Strom Thurmond??!

Chickadee AND Enjoyful....so good to hear from both of you.  You are constantly in my thoughts.  I hope that the hugs and positive energy are making it through to you ladies.  

Morning Gals,

As usual for winter ... it's freakin' cold this morning.  That.is.all.

Chickadee ... so lovely to see you.  You sound really good!

Enjoyful ... been missing you as well.  Hope the trial is kicking some cancer ass and your trip with Sampson to SC is a huge success.

Kad2kar ... I loved the hot summers in southern Utah.  The weather in Phoenix is great, but it can get really cold in the winter.  It's been 11 years since I left the balmy temps of southern California, and every time I've moved since then I've ended up where there are hard winters and lots of snow!  Go figure.

much love,

Bren

Hi, chickadee, missed your post, but whatever it was, I agree!

ENJOYFUL - everything crossed for good outcomes - is your going South part of the trial?  If you're back in Boston, and EVER (EVAH!) need anything, I'm 2 1/2 hrs west of Dana Farber, and my car knows the route by heart, seriously!  I was happy to hear you had a good support group around you, but just in case you need a "fill in" until the Major Players arrive....will PM you with my contact details ;-)

OK - Patriots DAY.  Well, not really, but I hope it is.

We're going back into the deep freeze on Tuesday for  few days of below 0.  Our 1 to 3 inches of snow yesterday is closer to 6, how come people get paid for these "predictions" - and don't they evah READ those fancyschmancy machines?

I'm with Blue - not bothering to deal with whoever, but I gotta tell ya, I watched the "talking heads" ABC This Week on TV this morning, and whatever Mary Matalin had done to her face, she looks like a sorta space alien with very different shaped eyes ( kinda like Joan Rivers?) and weird curly hair to maybe cover scars along the sides of her face, and now her mouth REALLY doesn't move when she talks (nasal honks), at least Greta S. talks out of the side of her mouth ( seriously, she must have sadly has a stroke or somethin', can't imagine why she wants people to watch her) - so, mary matalin now looks very much more like her husband (james carville) who seems to have been born looking like that.

LOL! I read on another board that Maitlin looked drunk today. Did not see the show, but Carville was on another show about a week ago and apologies were made for Mary, who couldn't attend because she was "under the weather." Hmmmmm

Chicky, sooooo good to hear from you again! Glad you are doing well! All appendages crossed that E has a successful trial, resulting in major cancer curb kicking.