Winter 2013-2014 Rads
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ladies completed number 7 this morning which this visit took longer due to x-rays again. Is this something they do on a regular basis and if so what are the x-rays for? I have yet to see my MO to ask these questions I didn't see him last week because I had just started and didn't see him this week because they said he was doing a procedure. I have to wait till next Thursday to see this man and by that time I'm about half way done. Has anyone else experienced this? Peaches12 I am in South Georgia so the trees with blooms and no music must be the norm here.
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Bondsy - my RO mentioned the possibility of the lung scarring when he was talking about side effects during my initial appointment. The other thing he mentioned is that in the future whenever we have lung x-rays or another scan in that area we should let them know about the possibility of scarring from rads so they don't go off wondering and then report something suspicious that needs to be investigated and then get us all worked up for nothing. I thought that was thoughtful of him to try to prevent that.
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Hydavis, my first 8 zaps, 4 of those also had x-rays. Which means having those arms stretched out longer, which causes that incision pain to intensify.
I am 1/2 way through, and they are working on that form for the boosts. I see you had 5 positive nodes, I had 6, obviously that site needs lots of radiation.
They explained why all the x-rays, but I have had a hard time keeping all the details straight..someone else will have the answer.
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Hi, I wrote several days ago about my Rad experience...That was my first post on this thread....As I did in the last post, I figured I would wait a few days before posting again....Today was my 12th Rad...I have 21 more to go, 8 of them boosts...So far so good...A little redness, no breast pain...The only pain I have is the muscles over my intire body, mostly the legs and hip, but I think it's the side effects from chemo that still plagues us all, even though we are done with it...But who knows, the rad could contribute to the aches and pains...Today not a good day with the aches...Left leg very painful...Hopfully the motrin will take care of it, just don't like taking to much...Take care, a great weekend to all,and keep on smilling
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Gubbyann, I think the Taxol does such a number on us, my last infusion was 7 weeks ago. I do feel so much better physically, but still have the leg aches, neuropathy in my feet. My PCP told me yesterday, that we have been through so much, the chemo is so toxic, and we want/need to be normal in a month. It takes time. Then the radiation, & it's SE.
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Holeinone, you are right about the Taxol, and lets us not forget the Taxotere...They sure can do a number on you...I can sympathize with you and the neuropathy...I too have it in my feet, and I had it before the chemo...It just got worse with the chemo...But today the leg hurts so bad and it's a bit swollen....Been using a heating pad all day, and I get some relief from walking...Will be seeing the RO Monday and will see what he has to say...Take care and good luck to you...
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Thank you Pam for the tip about future lung x-rays. That makes a lot of sense.
I'm also having leg and foot pains post-chemo. I heard it takes an entire year before all the SE's from chemo are finished.
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I had my first of 5 boosts today, overall 26/30. The boosts are given a little differently -- I am laying flat on a soft bed-like table with a pillow. I just held my right arm behind my head, did not have to hold on to the bars. There is an attachment on the rads machine with a template to target the incision/tumor site. It was double the rads total time, but only on one side; pretty simple and easy like the techs said it would be. I am still receiving the 2 gray per dose. I do feel very hot and flushed all along the right side of my face; feel like I have a sunburn, but it is not red. I have been very sensitive to the radiation and have gotten these feeling throughout my radiation treatments. I can't believe I have only 4 more treatments and I'll be done.
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Hi Winter Radiants! I had my simulation and tattoos today -- asked a couple of questions and thought I would share some info....
LUNG/HEART -- while the tech was explaining the machine to me, I thought I would ask about how/if it protects my heart and lungs. He said to definitely ask the RO when I see him next Thurs, but he broke out the photos from my CT scan last week and showed me the area to be radiated from several views. My lungs and heart were clearly visible. He showed me a small area where the radiation will cross the edge of my lungs during the whole breast rads -- I asked if that will cause scarring, and he said it shouldn't, but to ask the RO as well. Boosts, he said, will not pass through the lungs at all and the heart will be out of the way for all rads.
TIME -- When I was there last week I asked for 3:30 time slot and explained why earlier was not possible with work. Sure enough, I got the 3:30 time. Tech says I will be out of there by 4:00 except on Thursday when I see the RO after being zapped.
SKINCARE -- Once I got my tattoos, I met with the RO's nurse, who went over skincare. She recommended Miaderm 3 times per day starting with first day of treatment, and then for later weeks of treatment to add in aloe Vera and Aquaphor in between. I asked about Emu Oil, and she had never heard of it but she thought it would probably be fine as addition to the others. She said my skin seems "baby soft" so I should be religious about the creams. Those of you using Miaderm, did you find any less expensive sources to buy? Ordering direct from Miaderm (2 tubes) is $71.34 including tax and free shipping.
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TeamKim- The 2 tubes of Miaderm from Amazon are $69.99. I already have Free 2 day shipping from amazon so don't know how much that would have been.
Are you to put Aloe Vera and Aquaphor both on together at the same time for your in between treatment(s)?
Good luck. I finished 10/25 today and for the first time saw a little pink under my arm. No itching or anything else yet.
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The nurse said you can combine the aloe and Aquaphor OR put on the aloe first, let it soak in, and then the Aquaphor. They just don't want me putting anything on for 6 hrs before treatment.
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Hi gals,
Finished my 5th treatment today. I get X-rays every stinkin day for them to set me up in the right position. I think I am a problem patient though because at my simulation I could only get my left arm up so far and as a consequence my left elbow is very close to getting radiated. Today was so frustrating...after multiple adjustments and 3 X-rays they gave up and said we would need to start over. They had me get up off the table, readjusted the head/arm mold, had me move back further, etc. etc. Finally 2 more X-rays later I was good to go. The whole process took 40 min! That has happened twice now in the last 5 days.
I did see my RO on Thursday and he made me feel so much better about the whole process. He said risk of recurrence w/out rads was 15-25% and that by doing rads my risk was further reduced by 50-75%. I think that means overall risk is around 5-10% if I do my math right. Anyways he said not to worry too much about TEs and has had many patients do fine with rads and TEs. He said many years ago it was pretty bad because the surgeons hardly left any skin and scraped so much out but these days they leave a thicker amount of skin. I also told him about using miaderm and aquaphor and mentioned I had just bought emu oil. He enthusiastically endorsed emu oil because it also reduces swelling. He said he usually doesn't mention it to his patients because it is so expensive but thinks it is great. So I plan on using all 3.
Speaking of miaderm...I purchased 4 for $110 on amazon. I figured I would come close to using it all since I started it a week before rads started and I am using it 3-4x per day over a large area.
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Thanks Rosecal for the info on the boosts. I start mine on Monday. Hard to believe we are almost done!
Teamkim - I have been using Calendula and Aloe. The Calendula is so much less expensive than the Miaderm at about $6 a tube. I have used 4 tubes and I am almost finished with treatment. I wonder if the Miaderm is any more effective as I have had good results with the Calendula. I looked up the Miaderm online and It is interesting that the Miaderm has Calendula and Aloe as two of it's three main ingredients.
Dawn
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Dawn - I'm using the Calendula also...I use the aloe gel my RO gave me just after my treatments and the Calendula twice more during the evening. So far so good, no pink or red yet.
I'm tired, I'm exhausted and I can cry at the drop of a hat! Just trying to get through the day is a battle of epic proportions but I have to keep reminding myself that I am a Survivor. Sometimes, it actually works!
My countdown continues...only 22 more treatments to go!
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I'm still doing post-chemo testing & haven't started rads yet, but thanks to all of you for your reports & ideas. Great information.
I saw my dermatologist yesterday for normal 6 month full body review. Based on one of the links posted here about skin toxicity (TeamKim?), she said the use of topical "mometasone" (Elocon) corticosteriod once a day as a prophylactic to prevent discomfort & itching is an excellent idea. She also said to ramp it up to twice a day if I get symptoms. Anyone using this?
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MinusTwo, my RO gave me Hyaluronic Acid gel, which I am still using, I also got a small tube of Lidocaine HCL 2% because my skin is rashy and itchy. I have had 18 zaps, 15 left.
I wonder if you can buy the cream Kim suggested, Elocon? I am assuming they are billing my insurance for what they have given me.
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Beth - you'll get there!!! I was really emotional at the beginning of Rads - felt like crying on the table and afterwards. I am better now that I see that it is almost over and that I came through it Ok. Hang in there. It will be over with before you know it!
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Holeinone - I think the cream is RX since my derm doc said she's write me a script. I decided to wait until I talked to the RO and to see if anyone had tried it. You can check it out on google - 'mometasone '
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Jmfrankel, I can't believe they did that to you! I'm really sorry you had to go thru all that again. I hope the rest of your rads fly by quickly for you and they are satisfied this time.
I'm going to Google emu oil now.
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I've had 23/33. Quite red. Getting sore in a couple spots - hoping the skin doesn't break down but RO said we can deal with it if it does. He doesn't believe the "expensive" creams work any better than lesser priced. He says aquaphor is the standard. He's also had women do very well with coconut oil. I asked about emu oil and he looked at my small bottle - said it should be fine he just doesn't have any experience. Probably similar to coconut oil but costs a lot more. My underarm and lymph node scar along with my "dog ear" are the sorest. Any other MX w/o recon. Going thru rads now? My RO also mentioned that woman with larger breasts tend to have more skin irritation.
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Dawn -Thanks for the encouragement! It's awesome that I can share the good days and the bad days and everyone understands. I guess this is all of the particular sisterhood we find ourselves in.
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I had my appointments with my RO and MO this last Thursday at Mass General (3.5 hours from where I live). It was a good but long exhausting day. I was offered and decided to go with the one week radiation treatment plan. My RO said they have been doing it for years and it will avoid radiation to my heart and other areas (I had previous radiation to my neck almost 3 years ago). I start treatment Feb 18th and get a total of 9 treatments, twice a day at 8:12 am and 3:36 pm. The risk of side effects is a bit higher than the typical schedule but one week vs six and half is worth it to me. I will post my experience on this site. Because of Presidents Day I can't start till Tuesday and will finish up the following Monday morning unless they can get me in on Saturday morning (usually reserved for emergencies). MGH has a good rate at the hotel a couple of blocks from the campus so we will stay there and I will be able to walk to treatments. The hotel provides a mini-refrig and microwave in the rooms. One week's hotel charges will be a whole lot cheaper than the 8 weeks I did the last time (luckily my mom helped out with that one). The hotel is next door to Whole Foods so eating will not be a problem.
My new MO, Dr. Moy, is terrific. She agreed no chemo with my Oncotype score of 17 and that I could start with Tamoxifen because of my osteopenia, even though I am post-menopausal. They are doing some research on the benefits of going longer than 5 years on hormone therapy but the results aren't in yet. We also talked about intermittent hormone therapy (on and off the pills) and she said that that research is promising but not finished yet. All in all I am glad I went back to MGH for this cancer.
By the way my RO recommends calendula cream.
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Lizzie,
Sounds like you have a great plan and all organized. The one week vs six is appealing. Please let us know how it works out...good luck to you...
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I just started a new topic called One Week Rads Group for everyone doing this protocol to share experiences.
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Lizzie, it sounds like you have a very workable plan in place ... length of time, hotel, Whole Foods close. Probably best of all, you seem to like your doctor.
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Hi Lizzie: I am very interested in your experience as I will be having radiation in the near future and have quite a commute as well.. All the best and I will be there right along with you for support and for learning.
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Yes Lana, I am going through rads right now- Left side IMRT and they are hitting about a third of the right side to avoid organs. I am very nervous about this- have expanders in and a bolus every other treatment. I have done eight of 33. I am using Emu, Prutect and aloe. Wearing big white cotton t-shirts everyday. So far - things look good! Hope my PS can work with these down the road without needing a LF. I will be relieved when the rads are over and all I will need is implant/nipple recon. What a long road we have! Good luck !
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Tthis is the first that I'm actually kind of dreading going to rads this next week!
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Lana, I am starting to dread it also, you are 5 days ahead of me. Skin is irritated, itchy, incision is very tender...we are a tough bunch.....
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Lizzie, I live very near you, I'm in Clifton Park. I am interested why are getting treatment at MGH. I also noticed you had no affected lymph nodes. Is the one week protocol you are having because you are at such an early stage? After chemo I have 6.5 weeks of radiation at Ellis. I am interested in a shortened option if it would benefit me.
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