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  • LanaM
    LanaM Member Posts: 142
    edited January 2014

    Holeinone and Slowdeepbreaths sending positive thoughts your way - hope all is fine. Welcome all new members to our winter rads! I had #19 today - only 9 more regular rads then 5 boosts - there is a light at the end of the tunnel! Found out today that you have to do another simulation for the boosts so I have that next Thursday. They said I'll be taking my pillow mold with me (different facility as my rad center doesn't have the machine for simulation). I asked about how much radiation I was getting and was told 180 cGy per day for a total of 6000 cGy (60 gray) for entire treatment. I'm definitely red & getting a little sore (mostly when my arm rubs against me) but its not bad at all. I'm trying to be good about lotion - 4 times a day and using hydrocortisone for the rash/itching. I know everyone is different & mine may be different with rads after MX with no reconstruction. Keep thinking positive thoughts and remember the rads are helping us fight and keep this beast away! Did I mention the techs said these machines cost $2.3 million! Hope everyone is doing well!

  • Pam358
    Pam358 Member Posts: 294
    edited January 2014

    Thank you to everyone for posting about your journey - it has been helpful to read.

    I met with my RO today for my "new patient" visit. He was great about accomodating my wish to wait a little bit to start rads because I'm anxious about driving an hour and 10 minutes each way in winter weather. I still have one more chemo scheduled for this week - I'm hoping it still happens as I'm dealing with a UTI this week. My simulation is scheduled for the last week of February and then I'll start rads the first or second week of March.  I did have some radiation back in 2009 in my salivary gland region and I'm returning to the same RO because I thought the team was wonderful - they still are!  When he went over some side effects he would say this or that could happen and if it does "we'll get you through it".  He used that phrase a few times and it was so genuine and comforting.  And from what I remember that is exactly how it happened last time, he and the team were very responsive to my needs. 

  • Hydavis42
    Hydavis42 Member Posts: 52
    edited January 2014

    Bethf7 they certainly are uncomfortable and 5 months later I am finally getting somewhat comfortable with them since it looks like it will be with me for awhile. But we can do this one day at a time

  • Hydavis42
    Hydavis42 Member Posts: 52
    edited January 2014

    welcome alfranco. I know exactly how you feel. I started rads last Wednesday and had my simulation last Monday. It is overwhelming because our bodies are put through so much to fight this beast but we are here strong and ready to continue battling. We can and will do this so vent when you need to that is what we are here for on these boards to support one another and get through this together .

  • peaches12
    peaches12 Member Posts: 67
    edited January 2014

    6/25 today and I'm getting used to the routine.  Amazing what you can get used to that you never thought you would be able to face.  Pam358, I can't imagine making your trip everyday, winter weather or not.  I'm so lucky being 10-15 minutes driving time from all my docs and treatment, on the table for my rad at 11:40 and home right after noon. 

    I know everyone is different, but when did some of you start seeing skin side effects?  I see no change at all yet, no pink or any change of color at all, no itching, no rash.  Of course that could all change tomorrow and probably will very soon. I'm realistic.  I am religiously putting on Miaderm at least 3 times a day, often 4, and hope it will prevent the worst of what might be waiting for me.  I see my RO tomorrow for our weekly visit and then out to lunch with a girlfriend.  It's so wonderful to have somewhat of a normal life again compared to when I was having chemo.  (Herceptin goes on till April, but no side effects.)  Any other advice for me?   Just stepped in for a minute to see how everyone was doing.

  • rosecal954
    rosecal954 Member Posts: 79
    edited January 2014

    Today was 22/30.  I've been lucky so far and have had very slightly reddening around and under my breast.  Today, however, is the first day I feel a burn on my chest and I'm getting redder.  I've been applying Miaderm just once in the evening since I've felt almost so burn or discomfort.  It took 2-3 weeks to notice any change at all.  Since treatment 4 or so I've had burning sensations that come and go on my face and some on my hands and arms.  I was out is the sun this weekend in sunny Calif. and my cheeks feel hot and slightly burned today.  Also my chest is heavy and hurts when I take a deep breath. I've mentioned it before on this board that I've also have tingling and coldness of hands and feet, most on my right side, and these sensations come and go. RO sent me back to my primary doctor last week since she said my SE's are not radiation related which has been rather frustrating.  My primary ordered some blood work and my white blood cell count came back a little low at 4.3.  On the list of side-effects given to me at my hospital, low blood counts a side-effect, but uncommon. I am getting a total of 60 gray and start 5 boosts on Fri., then finished on January 23rd. I'm more concerned about the long-terms effects of the radiation treatments since they have been a little out of the ordinary. I would appreciate any comments if any one out there has experienced something similar. I hope your experiences will be easy and not cause you any discomfort.  

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    LanaM, thanks for the support. Wow, seems like you just started rads and you already have 19 behind you.

    Pam358, you and I have about the same travel time. I don't envy you having to drive in the winter weather. I'm sending positive thoughts that your UTI clears up so you can have your last chemo. You're so fortunate to already know your radiation team - it must be very comforting.

    rosecal954, you're in the home stretch! I hope the doctors figure out why you're having those side effects.

    Thanks to all of the ladies that provided info on why we need to have radiation. I must admit I almost opted out of the process, but I've come to realize it is necessary and I'm thankful they have these treatments to help us through. Good luck to everyone starting this week.

  • Tripneg
    Tripneg Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2014

    Hello everyone. I have been following along as I have been going down this road. Everyone is so kind and helpful. I just finished my radiation treatments  - it is doable - just tiring with all the driving and parking and taking off coat and shirt !! 

    Had some skin break down near the end but domeboro soaks helped dry it up. 

    You are all so sweet - and I need to say this. This thread is for people who have chosen to take this journey.  I have read where one or two have come on here - perhaps in innocence - defending their decision to not have radiation and asking for proof of effectiveness. We are all on our own journey of this awful nasty disease - and if we had a choice it would be to NOT have to do any of this at all. 

    This is not the thread to debate whether radiation is right for you - or everyone else. It's a thread to lift and support each other going thru it. I would think starting a new thread about "is radiation right for me ?"  Would be more appropriate.  

    Thank you all for your humor and stories. And best wishes thru radiation and beyond!!  

  • Oncearunneralwaysarunner
    Oncearunneralwaysarunner Member Posts: 252
    edited January 2014

    TeamKim - no reduction for me at the time of the lumpectomy, just a straight removal of the affected tissue. How it was explained to me is that there will often be a buildup of fluid where they took out the tissue and that is what they look for on the CT to identify the area to target for the boost. I didn't have that pocket of fluid buildup which made it hard to identify the site. 

    LanaM - guess what I was thinking about when I was laying there yesterday? Yep, the cost of the machine. The tech told me that the particular machine I'm using is advanced and that they got the "upgrades" on it. I had to wonder if it was more or less than the price tag you we're told! 

  • Cari3047
    Cari3047 Member Posts: 25
    edited January 2014

    I had my last rad this morning.  Feels good to be finished with it, but not feeling the celebratory mood everyone seems to be expect from me.  I had watched over the weeks as people finished rads, they techs made a huge deal of it, issuing a certificate and ringing a huge bell in the waiting room where everyone there cheers.  I made the techs promise me no fanfare and just went in and out like I always have.  Thankfully they complied! I'm not a rah rah, warm and fuzzy girl... nothing against those who are... I'm just not.

    My skin has held up pretty well. Very dark red and itchy, but no breaks.  I have been using a thin layer of Aquaphor 4 or 5 times a day this past 8 days and washing with Dove soap.  I tried some hydocortisone cream for itching, but it didn't help much.  I take Benedryl before bed and that helps quite a bit not only for itching, but helping me sleep better.

    I saw my RO today and she told me that the skin will continue to burn for 5 days after my last treatment, reaching it's worst on day 5 before starting to heal.  I thought that was interesting to pass along.

    Tomorrow I have my full body bone scan and torso CAT scan.  Then no appointments scheduled until Feb 3 when I'll see my MO. At that time I'm expected to make a decision on whether or not I'll take the Tamaxofin for 5 years.  My MO had previously given me reoccurrence rates in 10 years of 7% with and 20% without it. Has anyone with a similar diagnosis been given similar rates?

    Thanks again TeamKim for this thread.  It has really helped me a lot through my rad journey and thanks to those of you who have read my rants and replied.  Wishing everyone on here the smoothest of  treatment and best of health moving forward!

  • rosecal954
    rosecal954 Member Posts: 79
    edited January 2014

    Cari:  Congrats on completion of your rads!  Glad to hear your skin is holding up pretty well. Hope your scans turn out fine for you. I know the decision on Tomoxifen is so hard; I'm in the same place coming up on the 10th of Feb.

    SlowDeepBreaths:  Thanks for the encouragement. It feels good to know next week I'll be finished.

    Everyone have an easy treatment day or recovery day.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    Cari3047, Congratulations on being done - it must feel good to have it behind you. It's encouraging to know your skin came through without any major problems. Thanks for sharing your experience - it really does help to hear the positive posts. Good luck with your scans and your therapy decision. I look forward to the day when all these major decisions are behind us.

    Edited for Typos

  • SallyS70
    SallyS70 Member Posts: 947
    edited January 2014

    Congratulations Cari3047.  Good luck with your scans.  Thanks for sharing about the five days.

    Does everyone get a bone scan and a torso cat scan when rads are finished?

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited January 2014

    Sally, I was told no scans. I did have a PET scan done, after lumpectomy before chemo. They were looking for mets because I had so many lymph nodes involved. I also had a dexasan done on my hips, I think that's what it is called, for bone density.

    I really think it really varies between Drs. & what the protocol is for there center, hospital. I can understand not having these scans twice. 

  • Gubbyann
    Gubbyann Member Posts: 34
    edited January 2014

    Hi all, I joined this forum a little while ago...Haven't posted anything because I figured I would wait until I had some radiation, and would be able to say something more usefull about it...Also maybe answer any concerns you all may have...As it is, I have had 9 rads so far...Will have 33 total with the final 8 rads a booster...So far so good...No side effects, although my breast is a tiny bit red...I do rub cream on my breast after rads...I have been using udderly smooth( udder cream )which the nurses say is good, along with aloe, and aquaphor....I'm sure there are a lot of ointments and creams we could use, but these seem just fine, at least for now...Don't know if this helped anyone, but I will keep writing down my experience with rad...In the meantime you all take care and hang in there...

    Teamkim...I want to wish you a Happy belated Birthday...I also wanted to say what a wonderful pic of you and your father-in-law...I absolutely loved it...

  • allebasi
    allebasi Member Posts: 81
    edited January 2014

    I havent read this whole thread so I dont know if anyone else has experienced this. Im not sure if its radiation related but I think it is. I have to lay on the table and hold the little posts behind my head and turn my head to the right. My simulation lasted a while, I had it last Thursday and Ive had 3 zaps so far. My upper back mostly on left side is achy and feels almost like the pain is inside my chest if I take a deep breath. This morning I almost tripped on an ipod charger cord and the pain felt like it shot thru my chest when I stopped myself from tripping. I dont know if its from laying on the hard table or from the long time I was on it during the simulation. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? I tried googling it but couldnt find anything.

  • rosie9037
    rosie9037 Member Posts: 12
    edited January 2014

    Today was 9/25.  Yesterday had a double dose (7 am and 3 pm).  Pretty tired today.

    Peaches12--I have not had redness yet (well maybe a little under the arm), but I do experience some pain in the breast.  

    I asked my RO about creams since I notice quite a few of you are using them before getting red.  She said nothing would prevent the skin breakdown and that when (not if) it happens, she will recommend something then.    Have others have this response/experience?

    They have my rads scheduled up to the day before I leave on a very long trip.  I think some of you have traveled soon after rads.  How soon?  Did you have problems?

  • allebasi
    allebasi Member Posts: 81
    edited January 2014

    My RO said to use clear aloe. They said just dont put it on right before the treatments, put it on afterward.

  • LizzieK
    LizzieK Member Posts: 67
    edited January 2014

    Here's some of the latest research on radiation effects on skin.  They are right there is nothing you can do to stop the breakdown of the skin from radiation.  Keeping it hydrated is about the only thing you can do and then wait for your skin to heal after the radiation stops.  I had radiation to my neck almost three years ago for laryngeal cancer (Stage IV).  Radiation has a latent effect.  You don't see much for the first treatments and when you are done it continues to get worse for a while and then better.  I had pretty bad burns on the front of my neck.  The worst was gone in two weeks.  I have only recently developed spider veins on my neck where I got radiation so I may look into getting some laser treatment (after I finish with the breast cancer treatment).  I still put cocoa butter and vitamin E on my skin twice a day.  The skin on my neck doesn't look great but no one seems to notice and it's not a bad price to pay for being alive.  I go to see my breast team this Thursday at MGH to decide which radiation treatment I will get (partial breast 1 or 2 weeks or 4 to 6 week whole breast).  Hopefully they can use the tattoo I already have between my breasts.  It will be weird going through it again.


    Support Care Cancer. 2013 Oct;21(10):2933-48. doi: 10.1007/s00520-013-1896-2. Epub 2013 Aug 14.

    Clinical
    practice guidelines for the prevention and treatment of acute and late
    radiation reactions from the MASCC Skin Toxicity Study Group.

    Wong RK, Bensadoun RJ, Boers-Doets CB, Bryce J, Chan A, Epstein JB, Eaby-Sandy B, Lacouture ME.

    Abstract

    Radiation
    dermatitis (RD) results from radiotherapy and often occurs within the
    first 4 weeks of treatment, although late effects also occur. While RD
    may resolve over time, it can have a profound effect on patients'
    quality of life and lead to dose modifications. A study group of
    international, interdisciplinary experts convened to develop RD
    prevention and treatment guidelines based on evidence from randomized,
    controlled trials. Evidence-based recommendations were developed after
    an extensive literature review. Randomized, controlled trials with
    standardized measurement of outcomes were considered the best evidence,
    and a majority of the recommendations were formulated from this
    literature. The adoption of washing with water, with or without a mild
    soap, and allowing the use of antiperspirants is supported by randomized
    trials. Use of topical prophylactic corticosteroids (mometasone) is
    recommended to reduce discomfort and itching. There is some evidence
    that silver sulfadiazine cream can reduce dermatitis score. There is
    insufficient evidence to support, and therefore the panel recommends
    against the use of trolamine, topical sulcrate, hyaluronic acid,
    ascorbic acid, silver leaf dressing, light-emitting diode lasers, Theta
    cream, dexpanthenol, calendula, proteolytic enzymes, sulcralfate, oral
    zinc, and pentoxifylline. Moreover, there is no evidence to support the
    superiority for any specific intervention in a reactive fashion. For
    patients with established radiation-induced telangiectasia and fibrosis,
    the panel suggests the use of pulse dye laser for visual appearance,
    and the use of pentoxifylline and vitamin E for the reduction of
    fibrosis.

    PMID:
    23942595
    [PubMed - in process]
  • candi07
    candi07 Member Posts: 188
    edited January 2014

    Congrats to those who are done and welcome to all who are new. Today is 14/33, it's going by really fast..no issues to report. Today I went to the gym worked out on the treadmill, did some light weight lifting and sat in the sauna. I had a long day at work but really wanted to go and I'm glad I went. 

    Hugs and kisses to all. 

  • ellenkc
    ellenkc Member Posts: 173
    edited January 2014

    Rosie -- When I had radiation almost 7 years ago, I flew from Colorado to Boston on the last day of treatment. With my siblings, I spent the weekend clearing out my mom's house as she had moved to assisted living. I focused on the kitchen and didn't do a lot of up and down stairs, but that was about it. 

    Admittedly, I had very little reaction to the radiation. I worked throughout, maybe slept a lot for a couple of weekends. After 6 weeks, I was pretty red, but stopped just short of blistering. 

    My guess is that you will have a good idea in the coming week how much you'll be up for the trip. 

    Ellen

  • Jmfrankel
    Jmfrankel Member Posts: 86
    edited January 2014

    Cari3047.... Congratulations on being done!  Interesting about the 5 days post treatment thing.  

    Allebasi,  I have back pain too from that darn hard table.  I can imagine it would be worse if I had to turn my head to the side.  I ice my back sometimes at night to help or take a vallium to relax the muscles.  Have thought about going to the chiropractor to see if he could adjust me without lying on my stomach but a bit afraid of him over adjusting and hurting my TEs so I haven't gone.  My back also hurts from doing the PT exercises.  

    Lizziek...thanks for the post about the dermatitis.  I am full expecting to get red and itchy even with the creams but just hoping for no breaks in the skin.   

  • mlread13
    mlread13 Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2014

    hi, this is my first post. 

    today i had # 11 radiation treatment of 16 after chemo and lumpectomy on one breast.. 

    skin is a little pink but the surprise for me was the pain that came on quite suddenly in my armpit, shoulder, and back of my shoulder. my initial thought was that i had torn a muscle, but after reading more about radiation effects i realized it was more likely pain brought on by the lymph system. 

    for the past hour i have massaged the whole area gently (small circles with finger tips) and to my relief this gave me some comfort. the area is now less sensitive. i will continue with this self treatment for as long as i have to ~ am just so relieved it worked .

  • TeamKim
    TeamKim Member Posts: 568
    edited January 2014

    Cari -- I know you aren't a rah rah (lol) but I can't help doing a little but of happy dance for you....congrats on being done!  Thanks for the tip on the oral Benedryl.  That really helped with my skin issues (allergic reactions) during chemo as well.

    Mlread -- glad the instinctive self treatment worked, and I hope it continues to.  Jeez... Just when you thought you might be getting through this with minimal SEs.

    Allebasi -- My shoulder was sore for a couple of hours after my CT scan.  Not the cancer side, but the other one.  Now the should joint pops sometimes, but doesn't hurt anymore.  It was a long time to have my arms over my head in one position.  I think I am paying the price for not being as fit as I would like to be.  I have started to do more stretching to try to get back some flexibility if I can (at 59, maybe it's a tall order).

    LizzieK -- thanks for the skin info.  I like to think there is something I can do to sidestep the skin issues, but it probably falls under the "we are all different" mantra.  

    Seeing my MO tomorrow and he plans to put me on Tamoxifen or something now, and I start rads next week. I will ask a lot of questions about how the heck to know what is causing SEs.  

    Wishing all of you sisters a good week -- sending healing thoughts your way!

  • Moving-Forward
    Moving-Forward Member Posts: 11
    edited January 2014

    Cari3047: congrats on being done!

    I finished my full breast treatments yesterday. Afterwards I had my set up for the boost treatments to the tumor site- got 4 new tatoos to join the 7 I already had. This morning I had the first of 6 boosts, so 26 out of 31 total course treatments are completed. I am in the home stretch and getting excited!

    I continue to pace myself which makes the fatigue managable and using Miaderm on my skin, which I highly recommend. Other than that I have been fortunate with no other side effects.

    Wishing everyone a good day, wherever you are on your journey!

  • peaches12
    peaches12 Member Posts: 67
    edited January 2014

    Moving-Forward-  Congrats on completing your 25!  I did 8/25 today and won't need boosts, so am about 1/3 through rads.  I also am using Miaderm, 3-4 times a day.  I do realize everyone's skin reacts differently, but can you tell me how you did, please.  Did you need to use anything else for relief or healing?  Good luck with the last 6!

  • mouse9587
    mouse9587 Member Posts: 53
    edited January 2014

    Today was #6 of 35. I'm getting pink and itchy.

  • Moving-Forward
    Moving-Forward Member Posts: 11
    edited January 2014

    Peaches12: Thank you!  

    I have not used anything but Miaderm on my skin in the treatment area. The past two weeks my breast has been itchy, especially my nipple. I was applying Miaderm twice a day until the itchiness and redness started-- immediately after my treatment in the morning and at bedtime. I now apply it 4 times a day like you which stops the itchiness.

    My skin faired well. I started to get pink/red about halfway thru, and my lower underarm got brown, or darker than (around) my breast. I have had no open wounds or peeling. 

    Miaderm is great because it dries almost instantly and is not greasy. I do not care for the smell. 

    Best of luck to you and the rest of our group. We can do this!

  • batcatlady19
    batcatlady19 Member Posts: 138
    edited January 2014

    Just popping in - today, I had my first boost, & now I have only 4 treatments left before I'm DONE, DONE, DONE! I can't wait :)  Rads have been so much easier than chemo, but the daily grind of the appointments has been annoying. I'm excited for it to be over.

    Only in the past two weeks, since #20, have I got red, & the area underneath my treated boob has gotten pretty sore -- I've been trying to figure out if it feels better supported w/a soft, unwired bra or without a bra, but by now it doesn't matter, it only really feels ok if I'm laying flat back. I'm glad I'm only a C cup. Been using a lot of aquaphor, keeps the skin soft & supple.

  • rosie9037
    rosie9037 Member Posts: 12
    edited January 2014

    Lizziek--thanks for the post about skin toxicity.  It was helpful in relieving my mind because I am not doing anything for my skin, which is just starting to get a bit pink.

    Ellenkc--thanks for posting your experience with travel.  I know everyone is different, but it helps to know that some, at least, did not have too much trouble with travel.

    Congratulations to those who have finished.  I can't wait!

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