How vain are you?
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Ladies - sorry for the temporary thread hijack, but I wanted to share some information I think is important. And no, Melissa, this is NOT directed at you!!!
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Munchausens by Internet for Breast Cancer? Oh, most
definitely. For every disease imagineable. This is the most horrific example of
trolling ever. And most of the people who do it ARE ill… mentally.I have been on several other forums for serious medical
issues, and have encountered individuals who were definitely passing themselves
off as members of the group for sympathy and attention. Once you have been a
victim of this, and have been taken in by their stories, you will never forget
it.Me? I’m naturally suspicious, and tend to think like a
detective.One woman joined a board I was on, and initially was SO SWEET to everyone
there… they all fell in love with her. Then the stories started. Catastrophe
after catastrophe. It was like the worst movie plot ever. At some point, she
was afflicted with almost every disease known to man. If she didn’t get enough
attention, sure enough, another crisis would emerge.People started talking about getting a fund together to send her money so she
could pay her bills. Talk about a red flag! But after some time went by, I
noticed that her stories didn’t add up. She professed to live in one city, then
another. She was single, divorced, widowed, never married. She had children,
she didn’t. Her family was rich, but they disowned her. She was homeless, she owned a duplex, she lived with her sister.I started keeping track of all her contradictory posts, and
listed them all back to her one day. It was like I threw gasoline into a fire.
What an explosion of hatred! We never saw her again. But oh, wait, there she
was on another board, claiming the same dreaded disease, plus a few new ones
(mostly worst-case versions of what others had already posted.)If you Google Munchausen’s By Internet, you’ll find all
sorts of information. Fortunately, other than one glaring case I can think of,
I haven’t run across this on BCO.Here are some clues, according to http://allnurses.com/general-nursing-discussion/munchausen-internet-lying-812176.html
- The posts consistently duplicate material in other posts, in books, or on
health-related websites; - The characteristics of the supposed illness emerge as
caricatures based on the individual’s misconceptions; - Near-fatal bouts of illness alternate with miraculous
recoveries; - Claims are fantastic, contradicted by subsequent posts,
or flatly disproved (e.g. a call to the hospital reveals that there is no such
patient); - There are continual dramatic events in the person’s life,
especially when other group members have become the focus of attention; - The individual resists telephone contact or contact via
mail, sometimes offering odd justifications - There is feigned blitheness about crises (e.g., going
into septic shock) that will predictably attract immediate attention; - Others apparently posting on behalf of the individual
(e.g., family members, friends) have identical patterns of writing.
SO - it happens. That's all I wanted to say. Now back to our regularly-scheduled program!!!
- The posts consistently duplicate material in other posts, in books, or on
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Munchausens by Internet...
My fingernails are still pretty ridged and tend to split lengthwise down the nail; that's why my aethestician wants me to avoid polish for now and just have moisturizing manicures. My toenails are much better. Normally, I like a French manicure on my fingers and bright poppy-red on my toes. Right now, my fingernails are bare and my toenails are "Sugar Plum Pink" from my Christmas pedicure.
Melissa.... don't you dare leave us!!! You were one of the first people I noticed on BCO that came out vocally against the "woo" factor and we really, really, like you.
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I think we need to petition the DSM committee to identify a new sub-category of Munchausen's!
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Hello everyone. I just read your comments on gel nails and have to comment ( kind of long ).... I had a stroke in June and quit smoking (no lectures on it, please). Prior to that time I had ridges on my nails and did my own manicures. One day I decided to treat myself to a manicure as I was going to my 50th high school reunion. It has been many years since I had a professional manicure.
The man who did my nails recommended the shellac and a french manicure. It used a light machine and you leave with your nails totally dry and ready to go. To remove it, he lightly buffed my nails, and then soaks in ACETONE for about a few minutes. Another light scrapping with a wooden cuticle stick removed the rest. Then wash hands and several coats of polish, using the light in between coat. It lasts me from 2 to 3 weeks. It is super shiny (many compliments on this feature) and no ridges or dry skin.
The first time he cut my cuticles and I had terrible hangnails. From that time, I had only pushing back the cuticle and no more hang nails. I always use rubber gloves when washing dishes or any cleaning. It is not called a gel manicure, but rather shellac.
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blessings you are so right- and its not just this type of forum- I moderated with a Marine organization for several years when my son was in and some of those trollers (is that a word) were downright scary. Some were journalists, some were just anti-military and some were very disturbed people. Everything you said about the signs was spot on and the crisis events just keep on coming. We had to work hard in chat room format to keep the entire room from being sucked into the drama vortex- I have a sense for it now and I see it here in some of the topics, my antennae goes up.
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Hi GramE, I think they are the same thing, gel and shellac. I could be wrong, but it is the same process to apply them.
The thing I am attracted to with the one I have, is that it is just a case of roughing the nail a little to give a good base. You paint one coat of the polish and under the lamp for 1 minute, then another coat of the polish, 1 minute under the lamp. Wipe nails with a cleaner towel that comes with the set and that is it. You're good to go. No base or top coat. I don't have any nail staining either, and I had Red on for 2 weeks.
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Good Morning, well, as good as morning can be when it's pouring rain ( in Western MA) in the middle of January, after living thru the "polar vortex" which reminds me of a delightful children's story "The Polar Express" which was probably more fun than the below 0 days we had - however, I digress:
this is a FORMAL ( ya don't need a gown, cuz I ain't got one) invitation to a certain "lurker" ( she knows who she is ;-) who introduced SANITY to another thread or we'd all be turning Iodine yellow...tee, hee...and probably is how Momine found out about Respectful Insolence ( am I right?) and Momine told Selena, and Selena told me, and I told Selena that the wonderfully wise woman told me years ago, and I THRIVE on it...we'll see if this gets her out of lurkerdom, if not, I';; pm her about larry, oh well, might as well do that, she'll get a chuckle...
Morning, all....
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Oh, Kayb, I used to LOVE the weather reports from the papers in London...can't remember the wording now, but they were all so clever.
Our Local paper (The Hampshire Gazette) which is only about 170 or so years old, and still going strong, has a good sense of humor too, esp. in the weather reports...with pictures done by children in local schools. I really do enjoy having a good local paper.
I heard larry speaking to me in the middle of the night, saying, don't turn on the light, it's only 3 am, so instead of going back to Donna Tartt's The Secret History ( her first book, I've read them in reverse order) I stayed trying to sleep, and dreamed of spoonfuls of marshmallow fluff melting on hot cocoa
The rest of the country mostly has Kraft's Marshmellow Creme, jeez, you don't know what you're missing - FLUFF is as much a part of our part of the world, as Wise Potato chips. Larry only tells me important things. Think white chocolate yogurt. Necco wafers...ice cream with mix-ins.
I pm'd our favourite lurker the same pm I sent to many about Our Larry, alias the short order cook. The "Larry is God" comment at the ends still cracks me up...pm me if I didn't send it to you & you want to read it. Tho kayb, momine, selena, melissa have it too - in case you want to share on another social network - I'm not on FB which is where it seems most seem to gather.
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Sunflowers, I am not sure who the lurker is, but I am scatterbrained that way. My introduction to Orac (Respectful Insolence) was thanks to a non-BCO friend of mine who is a scientist and is married to another scientist. I had not paid that much attention to his blog until I read his post about coffee enemas. It is completely hilarious.
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I know we're supposed to be vain, but I gotta tell you how much I am LOVING organic hulled HEMP seeds. I get them at our health co-op in 8 oz bags from NAVITAS Naturals. They really are delicious. Also still use chia seeds - they make a great sort of "tapioca" - and are a nice addition to hot oatmeal.
Still haven't attempted to make "energy" bars...but still thinking about it.
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Sunflowers, I tried these but was so disappointed. They sounded promising but were vile, dry, sawdusty, flavorless. I used regular yogurt, real eggs & almond butter & whey protein powder in them. Maybe someone can "fix" the recipe. Too bad I can't figure out a way to make Whole Foods chunky cherry granola healthy, but after all, it is really just oatmeal cookies...
Ingredients:
1 cup dairy-free soy protein powder
2 cups quick-cooking oats
½ cup whole wheat flour
¼ cup wheat germ
2 t. baking powder
½ t. salt
2 cups chopped dried fruit, such as raisins, apricots, berries
1 cups plain, unsweetened soy yogurt
2/3 cup maple syrup
¼ cup apple juice
2/3 cups natural unsalted peanut butter, creamy or crunchy
1/4 cup Egg Replacer mixed with 1/2 cup hot water
Preparation:
1. Preheat the oven to 350 F. Lightly oil a 9” x 13” baking dish.
2. In a medium-sized mixing bowl, sift together the protein powder, oats, flour, wheat germ, baking powder and salt. Mix in the dried fruit until evenly distributed. Set aside.
3. In another mixing bowl, mix together the soy yogurt, maple syrup, apple juice, peanut butter and Egg Replacer mixture using an electric hand mixer until well combined. In 2-3 additions, add the dry ingredients to the wet, mixing until just combined spread into the prepared dish and bake for 35 minutes, or until golden brown and set. Allow to cool completely on a wire cooling rack before cutting into bars.
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Sunny, I think we can be vain and like our tasty treats too! Matter of fact, I believe almost everybody is vain at heart. Some just like to present a modest veneer (not fooling anybody, lol).
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ooooohhhh...melissa, sounds like too much work for me. I've done a few gluten free banana breads, etc. And find it really has to be a MIXTURE of glours, not just brown rice, or it's too gritty - probably excellent for scouring teeth, but not great on the tongue! I also add a little teeny weeny bit of guar gum. Just bought Fig Bar from Costco - has whole wheat in it, bit I figure a little won't hurt, at least no soy, no gmo, no bad stuff. haven't tasted yet -
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Guys, if you don't have celiac, why jump through hoops to avoid wheat? I bake with wholegrain spelt flour. It is brown, but it tastes good and is fine for things like banana bread. It may not work for pound cake, but I don't eat that anyway.
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Ah, momine, I swear this isn't "woo." While I was taking Arimidex, I had severe joint pain. A local MD told a friend of mine who DOES have celiac disease, that he was having success with older women who were bothered by how much medication they had to take to live with their osteoarthritis. He did an "experiment" - not an official trial, but suggested, to several of the women, to stop having any wheat gluten for 6 weeks - within a few weeks, each woman had LESS JOINT PAIN.
That was enough for me to try it. About 3 weeks after stopping eating wheat gluten, I noticed such a relief from joint pain, that I went from taking about 12 ibuprofen a day to NONE. No other change, except I had a lot more energy, much less bloat, and generally felt better. But the MAIN thing, and I can't prove it, or explain it, or make sense of it fully, I had so much less joint pain, I didn't need to take any pain medication.
I have since learned - from friends who know about this stuff, the WHEAT grown in the USA, is so different from what we grew & consumed even 20 years ago, INCREASED proteins and gluten. No prof, don't ask for studies, I ain't got'em - just reading and mostly going by my OWN experience. And it's not GMO, it's the very compounds in plain old wheat, even organic wheat.
I DO NOT BUY and nongluten processed food - I think it's a RACKET ( racquet?) - and filled with Trans Fat, and so much other crap, I get sick just reading the labels. I do sometimes use Trader Joes Brown rice wraps, but basically am happy without bread.
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Oh man, I am ready to throw up after looking at online job postings..."a positive person is a HAPPY person" ..."if you are quiet or reserved this isn't the job for you"...blah, blah, blah!
You vill conform!
I suspect anyplace emphasizing attitude in a job listing is having problems with employees because they are making it a shit-hole place to work.
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Ah, Melissa, while I'm not looking for work, I can empathize with what you're finding. In my work years, long, long ago - there used to be an expression about IBM: " IBM likes wild ducks, as long as they learn to fly in formation."
I think most corporations, many places, are missing out by not welcoming or knowing how to work with the attributes, special skills, of more introverted people. But then, one of my favorite books is by Anthony Storr, "On Solitude" - so I'm never the one to give any advice about 'conforming."
Hope you DO find what you're looking for...
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I am a quiet introvert but actually quite chatty at work and enjoy talking to and helping people. It is just that when I'm done with work I want to go be quiet and be left alone to regroup.
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One of the reasons I love my job is that I get to work alone (mostly) with the old registers/records. It's solitary work which suits my personality and proclivities. I can be chatty and enjoy the genealogy aspect of my work with the public, but I'm with you, Melissa; at the end of the day I need about an hour of quiet time before I'm ready for my husband to come home (he's the chatty, extrovert morning person).
Good luck with your search. There's something out there that will fit only you, I'm sure of it.
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Momine - I agree with Sunflowers.... I don't have celiac, but within 3 weeks on a completely gluten-free diet, my fibromyalgia symtoms (severe joint and muscle pain; digestive pyrotechnics) of ten years went away. I mean, it just disappeared. No more Vicodin.
That was in 2012. I only started having pain again when I started Arimidex. I continue to stay gluten-free because who knows how much more joint pain I'd have on my current Estrogen-Sucking-Drug (Femara) if I did eat wheat. Not willing to find out!!!
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WOW, blessings - that's amazing. Sorry you're having trouble with Arimidex. At the suggestion of my oncologists, I tried acupuncture, and it made a world of difference for me. I know it doesn't for everyone, but the joint pain in my knees, ankles, did, as your experience on gluten free, literally went away. ALSO, monthly massage made such a positive difference.
I still see the acupuncturist once a month, even tho I finished my 5 years on Arimidex. Still see massage therapist every month too.
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Selena, I liked technicsl writing and business analyst work for the same reasons.
My mom is a Master Geneologist.
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Yep, I'm another gluten free girl because of osteoarthritis pain. I went GF about 2 1/2 years ago as a trial to see if would help. After 3 weeks I had significantly less pain. So I have stuck with it. I figure it is a small thing to do to try and keep my hands and other joints from getting as bad as my mom and grandmoms did. Once you get used to it really is not that hard. It's just a different way of eating.
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So why are 14 or 16 year old girls smart enough to find a breast cancer discussion board but not smart enough to find and read information on normal teenage body things?
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That 15yo girl ask must be a rhetorical question right Melissa-
I have a son who is diabetic with celiac but he can't go completely gluten free but he knows what he has to avoid. I use flour from Wheat Montana it comes from .....you guessed it Montana but a lot of places do have it in the US. I use Prairie Gold which is fabulous for baking and I also have Bronze Chief. My favorite flour ever is King Arthur but I don't find it in CA.
I think a lot of people have had relief of many symptoms when they remove wheat from their diet so I can't knock it but I agree it is most likely the way grains are grown and processed now in the US
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Weird about the gluten. If it is helping you all, all the more power to you. But it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
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Momine - the "sense" is the composition of the wheat grown in the USA, and exported, or course, all over the world. A few googles and you'll get lots of god information about this situation. What is being consumed today, with the proteins, glutens, contributes to inflammation in many people. It's not celiac, it's not "sensitivity" - it is a very common reaction to the gluten/proteins in today's wheat.
I've eaten some organic "heirloom" wheat and I can tolerate it much better than others, but still not worth it to me. The difference in how I feel NOT eating ANY wheat products ( and that include most soy sauce, and I'm very sorry to say licorice) is so amazing - it is not at all a sacrifice.
King Arthur has a great website, catalog, easy to order from them by phone or online :-))))))
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I have always been blessed with lovely perfectly arched natural eyebrows (that thankfully I never bowed to 1970's pressure and overplucked) and never had to do anything to but tweeze a few strays, but what the hell is with the postmenopausal Andy Rooney length ones???
And while we're on the subject, it really sucks to be farsighted and think you are going to throw up by trying to focus on something as close to your eyes as your underarms to shave. Gah!!!
Momine...what end did he hemorrhage from? Bwahahaha!
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LOL - Melissa - I've always had long ones - and it was a beautician years ago who took a teeny weeny embroidery scissors and used a teeny weeny "mustache" comb and combed my eyebrows UP and then cut off the long ends...lotsa long ones now...
Now, about those "long ones" that suddenly SPROUT, and I mean SPROUT, overnight, or so it seems, on my chin(s)...:-)))))))))
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