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  • Miss_Mama_Bear
    Miss_Mama_Bear Member Posts: 252
    edited January 2014

    I also saw some of you have started Tamoxifen already. My MO hasn't even talked to me about that yet. He also held my Herceptin that I should have gotten last Wednesday because it was too close to surgery... KJ you got yours though, right. and even closer to your surgery date. I am really kind of freaking out now. I feel so unprotected. I'm not even supposed to see him until the end of the month. Maybe I really need to get a new MO. I feel like I got abducted back in September and ran all over the country blindfolded and then one day I just got dumped at the side of the road in an unfamiliar town without a word. That has been my cancer experience.

  • Miss_Mama_Bear
    Miss_Mama_Bear Member Posts: 252
    edited January 2014

    Thanks KJ! I have a bad cold, but I hope they won't hold surgery for that. I guess as long as the anesthesiologist thinks I can breath okay? I have a couple days yet to get over it. I hope it goes away. I will be thinking of you! Funny we have been one day off from each other through all this and now our surgeries too. Well, my first one, anyway, since I am doing everything bass ackwards :)

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited January 2014

    mamastewart - that is such an apt description (I feel like I got abducted back in September and ran all over the country blindfolded and then one day I just got dumped at the side of the road in an unfamiliar town without a word).  It seems like even when there are answers, there are still OTHER answers, etc.  It drives me crazy.  I will be thinking of you & KJ this week with your surgeries.

    So I think I'm going to be racing against the clock (or calendar) with my radiation.  <sigh>  I haven't met with the radiation onc yet, but my breast surgeon said with so many nodes positive, we don't want to wait too long for radiation.  And yet the plastic surgeon wants me to be fully expanded before I start radiation.  Wonder which doc will win that argument?  I don't know yet when they will start filling... PS said my cancer side is way too tight right now because they had to remove so much skin.  Ugh.  

    I'm supposed to be on antibiotics as long as I have drains in.  I had a 1 week prescription we were sent home with from the hospital (which would have run out yesterday but PS told me to cut down from 4x day to 3x day so I have a few left).  My insurance won't refill it until Wednesday.  Um.... so I'm just supposed to be without antibiotics for two days for what reason????  I sent a message to my PS office, we'll see what they say tomorrow.

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited January 2014

    Oh, and my MO hasn't mentioned when I'll start tamoxifen either.  I don't see him again until 1/28.

  • Miss_Mama_Bear
    Miss_Mama_Bear Member Posts: 252
    edited January 2014

    Is it a radiation thing? The not starting Tamoxifen? I thought I remember a looong time ago reading that you weren't supposed to start it until after rads, but I was thinking that wasn't true all the time. Every doctor has a different idea, I guess. I just feel like I am not in the best scenario: no Tamoxifen, no Herceptin, surgery so far away. I am having my lumpectomy Wednesday, but I just want them off. I have felt pain between 11:00 and 1:00 all through chemo (my tumor is at about 3:30 and nearly in my armpit) It is the kind of pain that I felt in my tumor. I am sure they will find cancer cells there. 

    Oh, something else I have run into, and I don't know if anyone else has experienced this... I started having nipple discharge in June. I don't know why I didn't put two and two together and check my breasts then. My brain was in a total fog; I just thought "oh my milk has come back" (my daughter had been weaned for two years, but htat is besides the point) Anyway, I guess after I found the tumor I felt like the discharge was a mute point so I never mentioned it to my MO. So, while I was at my surgery clearance appointment I mentioned it to my PCP. He said that he thought I should talk to my MO about it. He also said that since it was bilateral, he didn't think it was due to the cancer, and would likely be a brain issue, maybe a benign tumor on my pituitary gland (nothing strikes fear in a cancer patient like the word "tumor" and I don't care if you put the word "benign" in front of it until you know for sure!) . So I called MO's office and he told the nurse to tell me that I need to call my BS and make sure she knows this before surgery. So I did that and the nurse calls back and says I am still okay for surgery. BUT I still don't know what this discharge means, and I am still having it. Has anyone else had it at all?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    Hi!  I finished TC chemo on November 5; had an ALND on December 11; and started Tamoxifen on January 2.  My MO explained that I needed a few weeks of recovery before each new thing.  My ALND was supposed to be a day surgery, but it got started late in the day (5pm) and I am slow to wake up from anesthesia so they did not send me home until the next day!  Good luck, MamaStewart..sounds like you have a lot to figure out on your own! 

  • alfranco
    alfranco Member Posts: 200
    edited January 2014

    I started tamoxifen Christmas day and will be starting radiation this week. Dr said it was fine. 

    Wishing you the best in your surgeries, mommasteward and KJ

    Lhl how long did it take for your eyebrows to come back in? They had stayed in place until a week after my last infusion and I also got neuropathy.

    Nice to hear from all of you. Hugs.

  • simplelife4real
    simplelife4real Member Posts: 563
    edited January 2014

    Art, I also have my last chemo on Tuesday.  Hard to believe I'm almost done with that part of treatment.

    Well, after 5 full months of chemo, I finally got my head shaved for the first time yesterday.  My hair hung in there pretty well with Taxol, but three infusions of AC pretty much finished off what was left. Here's a pic of me from yesterday after the shave.  The eyebrows and "eyelashes" are just makeup.  AC worked on them too....I think I have about 3 eyelashes left this morning and a few sprouts where my eyebrows were.  I keep rubbing my head because it feels so strange!

    image

    Oh yes, one other thing...I discovered I have a red birthmark on the back of my head close to the nape of my neck.    Never knew I had it!  Oh the things we discover on the BC journey.

  • positivenegative
    positivenegative Member Posts: 106
    edited January 2014

    onto  radiation....taxol 2 month holiday.  still ggetting herceptin and perjeta chemo during rads.  best of luck to all with surgies upcoming

  • VintageGal1111
    VintageGal1111 Member Posts: 705
    edited January 2014

    simplelife4real

    that birthmark is sometimes called a Stork Kiss! LOL How sweet that is where the stork held you when you were a newborn!

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited January 2014

    Positivenegative:  Yahooooo for clean scan.  Wonderful news!

    Mamastewart, I an sorry that the surgery staff is so rude.  I think sometimes places forget that they are dealing with REAL people and froget that we have lives that have been severely disrupted by this.  It may not seem like a big deal to them, but it is a big deal finding someone there the whole time.  My husband apparently has people coming in from out of town fo ra conference at work that day, which has me fuming mad.  He told me to try and reschedule my surgery, but the next available date was a month away, so I told him no way.  A friend will be coming and staying with me until he arrives in the afternoon sometime.  It took quite a few phone calls to try and find someone available for that amount of time.  I understand the reasoning, but they need to be more compassionate to people.   It sounds like your surgeons are more compassionate that the other surgery staff.  I hope your cold clears up, and that all goes well with your surgery.

    LHL, Has your fluid bump gone down?  It sounds like a seroma.  It may have to be drained if it hasn't gone down.  I had a lymph node removed a few years ago and developed one.  Once they drained it, it didn't come back.  I hope you get more firm answers as far as start dates for things.  They don't realize that we are women...moms...moms like to plan things!!!!!!!

    Simplelife, So glad that tomorrow is your last day in the chair for AC...yahoo!  iI wish you minimal and managable side effects.

    Alfranco, My eyelashes and eyebrows are on their way out too.

    It is frustrating that there are not clearer standards for things.  My MO told me to stop Tamoxifen 4 days befoer the surgery and 4 days afterwards.  My PS said 2 weeks before, and 4 days after...that is a big difference!  Because the risk of blood clot is more immediate than the risk of recurrence just for stopping for extra days, I chose the 2 week option.  These doctors work together all the time though, and should be on the same page with basic stuff like that.

    I have been on  a cleaning frenzy too.  I have been working a lot of shifts befoer my surgery, so I've been falling behind in the cleanign department.  My laudry pile rivals me in height currently, so I have been tackling that. as well as giving all bathrooms a very, very thorough top to bottom scrubbing.  I spot clean them daily, but they really needed a good scrub.  As much as I dislike doing it, I am actually thankful to have the energy to do it, so fo rthat I'm glad!

    Hoping to check in more, but if I don't, wishing Mamastewart and KJ (and anyone else I missed) good luck with the surgeries this week.  May all go smoothly with no surprises, and recovery be swift and complete.

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited January 2014

    alfranco - I am 5 weeks PFC and just starting to see tiny eyebrows sprout. I'm still having to use make up to have any visible eyebrows.

    simplelife - thanks for sharing the pic! I had to laugh about you rubbing your head. Wait till your hair starts coming back in! I have little peach fuzz and I'm constantly rubbing it. LOL

    Kbeee - I don't really have a fluid "lump"... it's more just the whole breast area is squishy. So I'm not sure if there's any one place they will drain. We'll see. I go back to my PS nurse on Thursday. I heard my mom talking to her friend on the phone today and she said, "Things are going good, but wow, when you're taking care of a family of four, just the laundry is overwhelming!" LOL My mom was a stay-at-home-mom when we were kids, but she's 65 now so it's not so easy. She's doing a great job, though!

  • kjsimpson
    kjsimpson Member Posts: 445
    edited January 2014

    MamaStewart,

    I had my Herceptin right on schedule (Jan 10th).  The oncologist said it wouldn't interfere with surgery at all.  I'm also scheduled to get the next one on time, after surgery, on the 31st.  I won't be taking tamoxifin (can't even spell it).  I think that is because I'm ER/PR-. 

    Sorry to hear about the cold.  I've been staying away from people as much as I can.  Though I did go to watch the Seahawks game with friends at a local pub.  Made sure no one around me was sneezing.  ;-)

    Will have good thoughts and prayers for you this week for surgery.  We got this!!

  • kjsimpson
    kjsimpson Member Posts: 445
    edited January 2014

    Simplelife,

    You make bald look GOOD!!  Happy

  • kjsimpson
    kjsimpson Member Posts: 445
    edited January 2014

    KBee,

    I knocked my laundry down to half my height yesterday.  The rest is the kids and they can do their own.  ;-)

    I'm also glad to have some energy back.  Grateful that I'm going into surgery feeling so good, too.  Looking back on the past few months... WOW!!... what a ride!!  Looking ahead, I know there are a few more mountains to climb, but I am going to be so glad to have chemo AND surgery in the rear view mirror. 

    LightHouseLady,

    How are you feeling?  Up and around?  Are the drains slowing down?

  • kjsimpson
    kjsimpson Member Posts: 445
    edited January 2014

    Alfranco,

    My eyebrows and lashes were ok until the last round too.  Now they are very very thinned out.  Though, I did pluck the upper lashes on my left.  I kept getting small infections and once I plucked them, the infections subsided dramatically.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited January 2014

    warrior - My MO wanted me to keep the port for at least a couple of years because if Her2+ cancer is going to recur, it usually does fairly rapidly so there are a number of MOs who advise keeping it in the short term.  I have not removed it, partly because I am a bit superstitious - if I remove it I will need it - if I don't then I wont, which is not really rational of course... but I also had it installed during BMX so I have no external scar and it is up near the hollow of my throat, so the scar will be visible in any neckline, so I have just left it.  I like going to have it flushed every six weeks because it is an opportunity to stay on the onc nurse's radar - when I call and ask for something they know who I am.  It makes it easier to ask a question or refill a prescription - I only live 10 miles down the road from my center.


  • knightzoo
    knightzoo Member Posts: 171
    edited January 2014

    Hi all!  Lots going on!  Good luck to those with final chemos and surgeries this week.  I too have my final AC Friday.  My eyelashes and eyebrows are pretty thin but not gone!  I definitely feel better than last week, but not normal.  I'm pretty sure I don't know what normal feels like anymore.  Being dropped off in a strange city is a perfect analogy! 

    It is so frustrating about everything being so different from place to place.  LHL, my RO & PS said NO fills before rads (who also said I'd for sure have rads regardless of surgery node status but we knew I had at least 2 positive before chemo).  Art, the size of my lumpectomy estimate was based on a shadow that BS saw on the u/s, which did not show up on MRI (so might be scar tissue)  - and my BS let me do a consult before chemo ended.  Again, different everywhere!  But my MRI/us were after taxol before AC - and since I chose BMX I won't have any scans after chemo.  And MO said no tamoxifin until after rads.

    Oh and KJ...what's that about taxotere taking 8 weeks to get out of your system?  I thought chemo was out in 48 hours?  We have chemo working for 8 weeks?  I'm confused...but maybe comforted if that is the case?!

    My fun of the week is a canker sore that won't heal.  I went to the dermatologist today and she thought it may be infected, so got topical antibiotic and oral Valtrex.

    Hugs to all - another day closer to healthy!

  • kjsimpson
    kjsimpson Member Posts: 445
    edited January 2014

    Knightzoo,

    My understanding, like yours, is that the taxotere is effective as a cancer fighting agent in our bodies for the first 48-72 hours and for the most part it leaves our system.  However, residuals remain that cause side effects (thus, why we are still nauseated and experiencing side effects after the first 72 hours).  In my case, the build up of these residuals is causing the edema (according to the doc).  I was reading today that it can take upwards of 29 weeks for the chemicals to be fully out of our systems and not creating side effects.  I hope the doc was confident in "8" weeks.  Three weeks down... five to go.  ;-)  Better not be 26 left to go!!

  • audra67
    audra67 Member Posts: 521
    edited January 2014

    KJ-  You are positive and it's contagious!  Thank you!  somehow this thread vanished from my 'favorites' and I just read 6 pages....

    Lighthouse-  I had a seroma in one side after mastectomy...had it drained and it came back...about 2 weeks later it all had absorbed back and was gone.....but they can drain those and /or they just go away...I was on antibiotics for it so it didn't get infected...good luck!

    Kbee- you sound so happy to be back to 'life'...I am so glad for you!

    I am forgetting everyones name as I write this and don't have energy to go back further!

    Praying for all of you with surgeries this week and all recovering!  Seems I did it in reverse with the surgery first and then chemo...I would pick surgery again over chemo - any day! 

    Wishing you all well!

    I am having LAST chemo this Thursday 16!  WOOOHOOO!  Thank the LORD!

  • hockeymommy
    hockeymommy Member Posts: 77
    edited January 2014

    hi ladies, congrats to everyone who is finishing chemo this week!!!!

    I have been so busy trying to get my ducks in a row for my upcoming surgery. Between the the two youngest kids travel hockey schedules and the two oldest ones exams coming up, I think I may scream...lol... well dh will be busy! The laundry pile has slowly been attacked and the house is clean(for now) . I think I am ready for Thursday.....I hope........ughhh....

    To all the surgery girls this week, lets kick cancers butt!!!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    Simplelife ! You look pretty darn wonderful! No one would know you'd had 5 months of chemo!!! Bald is beautiful!

  • warrior70
    warrior70 Member Posts: 144
    edited January 2014

    Thanks, Special K.  My dad's wife (colon cancer) has had her port for 3 years and if she passes her next set of tests/scans, she can get it out.

    KJ-Seahawks fan?  Pulling for the Niners myself, but I went to college in WA (Whitman) so I have many friends who are Seahawks fans.

    Simplelife, looking good!  I found that I had a stork bite too.  Funny! 

  • Miss_Mama_Bear
    Miss_Mama_Bear Member Posts: 252
    edited January 2014

    I am flipping out. Someone talk me down lol. I don't think I am going to sleep until anesthesia. I am definitely going to get a new MO, I think. I just feel like he isn't doing what he should be: taking me off of Herceptin, not talking to me about a thousand different things that need discussed. I don't know, maybe I am just over-reacting out of fear. I know my subconscious mind is apparently trying to cook enough meals for my kids to last until they are adults lol. I really need someone to come slap me across the face and make me stop! I guess the gravity of the situation is just sinking in. Maybe I shouldn't be a good girl and not question the doctor, because it isn't exactly a sore throat he is treating here. I know a couple other people here in town that have had cancer. I will ask who they saw. I can't count the number of things that I have seen you ladies talk about that I haven't had done nor talked to my MO about: tests, procedures, etc. I gave him a chance and he is brand new to oncology, but I don't think I want to be his guinea pig anymore. I don't want to let this idiot kill me. I just feel sick to my stomach about the care I am getting and that is not a good sign. 

    KJ: 29 weeks.... No, please no! I thought about doing some kind of detox but I have read that can overtax the liver. I keep seeing a post about baking soda and epsom salts or something in the bath? I wouldn't want to over-do it though. Plus, I like the idea of having a bit of it still in my body fighting stuff off. Makes me feel a bit better, especially with not getting my Herceptin. I suppose that outweighs the side effects. 

  • Miss_Mama_Bear
    Miss_Mama_Bear Member Posts: 252
    edited January 2014

    Simplelife: I just posted a picture on Facebook of my stork bite yesterday lol. My comment was: "I wonder how many people are unknowingly walking around with a birthmark on their head"

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited January 2014

    KJ - Somehow I missed the end of your post so I didn't see your questions. :-). I am doing good. Up and about... able to shower by myself (with a handheld shower head), still sleeping in the recliner, hurting some and uncomfortable but I only took Tylenol today. I can't lift my arms even shoulder high, but i can open the fridge so that's progress.  Ha! My drains have slowed down quite a bit... I'm hopeful I can at least get the one on the non cancer side out Thursday when I go to PS office. The drain on the left isn't draining that much more than the other but I have some fluid build up on that side so I'm not sure they'll take that one out.

    Knightzoo - sorry about the canker sore. Like we don't have enough things to deal with right?

    Big week for our Sept ladies... Lots of surgeries and last chemos. Take THAT, cancer!!!!!

    I wish all of you smooth sailing, whether you are getting operating on or saying goodbye to the chemo bar.  I'll be thinking of you all so keep us posted when you can.  :-)

  • kjsimpson
    kjsimpson Member Posts: 445
    edited January 2014

    Audra, I think sometimes I "fake it until I make it". ;-)

    Warrior, it should be a very good game. :-) GO HAWKS!!

    Mamastewart, why did he stop your herceptin? If you are not comfortable with your oncologist, by all means find one you trust. It is your life. There is no room for mediocre doctor skills right now. 

  • Miss_Mama_Bear
    Miss_Mama_Bear Member Posts: 252
    edited January 2014

    He said it was too close to my surgery? It was a full week before and I have heard since that it shouldn't interfere anyway? I am going somewhere else. I was super freaked out yesterday. I think I am getting a case of the realities setting in or denial wearing off along with everything else. I am trying to stay positive and not freak out. I am doing something for ME today for the first time in I don't know how long! I just recently discovered a group that helps the homeless and they meet in a park 3 days a week to serve them lunch so I am going to bring cookies! I tried to make them last night but was out of shortening so I need to run to the store and hope that I can get 100 cookies made by lunch today! I am so very excited! I also -finally- got my beautiful, long, blue wig yesterday. I LOVE it! It is so very soft and such a pretty color. I can't wait to put on some eyebrows and wear it today! I hope everyone has a most fabulous day! 

  • Miss_Mama_Bear
    Miss_Mama_Bear Member Posts: 252
    edited January 2014

    Oh and update on the deodorante I ordered: http://www.bubbleandbee.com/servlet/the-318/%27Pit-Putty-CREAM-Trial/Detail

    So far I have tried two of them and the "super pit putty" actually lasts a full 24 hours! That is without anything extremely strenuous, of course. I spent a day in the kitchen and a night full of hot flashes and night sweats though. No smelly pits in the morning! 

  • audra67
    audra67 Member Posts: 521
    edited January 2014

    Mamastewart- change your MO!  You should at least think he knows what hes doing...you don't have to LOVE him...I don't love mine but he has 20 years experience and is caring.  I don't know who I would ever LOVE as I go there to get poison in me and dread going...

    You are so nice to bake cookies and take them somewhere to help others! 

    LIghthouse- glad you are getting to the refrigerator, and sleeping on recliner does help...hoping you get drains out soon, they really bothered me most out of shower dangling there all wet...ewwhhh...but they are so icky to get out!

    KJ- I always heard the term 'fake it til you make it' in a sex related context so it makes me laugh almost when I hear that...but apparently the phrase works for all things!  So I really need to start using it as a motto! :)  I grew up in Auburn , Wa - my husband in Tacoma- he is absolutely THRILLED with Seahawks doing so well.  :)

    Knightzoo- that sounds par for the course doesn't it- I am waiting for my sores to show up :)  One nasty side effect after another...

    I actually read the whole book of JOb in the bible the other day as I felt like him...boo hoo...!  Thank God it is just us and not our families being killed or anything worse...so it actually made me thankful it was just me having all of this...

    Happy week surgery and chemo girls!  We are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel!  FINALLY!

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