Starting Chemo January 6, 2014

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  • rabbitvelvet
    rabbitvelvet Member Posts: 88
    edited January 2014

    tekwriter;  my bs and mo said not to take Benefiber during this time.  I think their rationale went something like, you are not getting your usual diet and the now the Benefiber is not a good idea.  I'm on senna and Colace.

    Today I get my hair all cut off in little ponytails and then it gets sent to hats with hair for my 'fright wig'...remember Young Frankenstein's Marty Feldman?  All kidding aside, I am glad it will still be with me.... 

    I'm starting TCH on weds morning and I am feeling a constant rumbling of anxiety but also that rumbling has also been due to daughter's decision to tell her husband of 20 years that she is getting a divorce.  It is long overdue but she and their daughter are hurting...oh well what's the saying....God doesn't give you more than you can handle?!   

  • andrea14
    andrea14 Member Posts: 3
    edited January 2014

    Hi everyone. I had my first treatment on Wednesday the 8th. So far so good. No nausea or any other symptom except constipation. It is better now. I have a question, did anyone had their period start during treatment? Looks like I am starting mine even though is not really time. Not sure if I should be concerned about it or not.

    Thanks

  • tekwriter
    tekwriter Member Posts: 216
    edited January 2014

    thanks rabbit, I will stop taking it until I can talk to my MO.  He better come up with something good though cause I do eat fruits and veggies. lol  I do have another question though.  My lump felt like a hard oval sort of baseball type of thing.  I could feel it through the top and side of my breast. (by the time we got to chemo) Now this week there is only on hard area left and all the rest is mushy.  does anyone know if this is normal.  I have only had the one week of chemo.  My fear is that it was like a ball that burst and now all the little cancer guys are scattered around and free to go where they please?

  • Carren-LB-at-2-0-clock
    Carren-LB-at-2-0-clock Member Posts: 116
    edited January 2014

    January 16th is my start date for Chemo. I will be having 4 cycles/3weeks apart. After which I will have 16 - 25 radiation treatments; depending on the 'Planning CT Scan'. For Chemo I will be having the TC cocktail; Taxotere/Docetaxel and Cytoxan/Cyclophosphamide. In preparation - I had my hair cut into a pixie style on Jan 3rd and it was long enough to send off to Locks of Love. I also dyed my hair Blonde and added Fuchia Pink highlights - which I forget about all the time - and wonder why people are always looking at me and smiling. I suppose they do not expect it for a 60 yo women.  I had a lumpectomy -Nov 26 and am currently cancer free including the lymph nodes. The chemo and radiation is adjunctive treatment. I have had quite a few people 'judge' my decision to go through with chemo/rads when I am cancer free. I wonder, but haven't asked anyone yet, if they think this was an easy decision. However, given that I am Triple Negative, 30% chance of recurrance and only 48% chance of survival in 10 years if NO therapy - I figure this was a 'no brainer'. Radiation will bring the recurrance down by 70% to under 10% and the chemo will bring the survival rate up to 66%. Anyways, everyone stay positive! This is what will get us all through this. And for those nay sayers I run into this is what I say ... Adjunctive treatment is like car insurance ... "it is better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it." God bless us all and keep us in His Peace, humour and fellowship.SillyHeart

  • 2ndtime4me
    2ndtime4me Member Posts: 88
    edited January 2014

    rabbitvelve  We have similar stats except I have positive nodes and this is my 2nd time with BC. I had DCIS before.  Yikes.    I Start TCH in the morning, so we will be close with SE. I wish you luck this week.

    Trekwriter I doubt it burst it just shrunk. I wish I could of had chemo first. sigh we did not know how big my Cancer was until after surgery. But I least now we are going to kill off any remaining buggers in my body.

    Good luck to all this coming week. Thanks for sharing. I have my SE meds lined up and ready to start this process.((((HUGS))))) To my Cyber Sisters. May you have many years with NED  (no evidence of disease for newbies)

  • Diamond_lil
    Diamond_lil Member Posts: 76
    edited January 2014

    hi all January girls. I hope every one is feeling as well as I do! Day 6 post A/C and  I have had no SE's to speak of, just a very mild headache in the morning. I think it may be related to a drop in caffeine consumption rather than the chemo! Is any one else always hungry, I find that I need to really watch what I eat...... I am at the fridge constantly, and not working doesn't help! I am planning to buzz cut my hair later this week so I can get used to wearing the wig before I return to work. Stay strong. lIL

  • EmmyAbby
    EmmyAbby Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2014

    Hello January chemo sisters! I am another newbie to this site and forum, and starting chemo this week on January 16th (AC 4x, Taxol 12x, then radiation and hormone therapy thereafter). I've never been a member of a forum and have yet to attend a support group, so this experience is a bit new to me but I have a stinking suspicion this step of the treatment process is really going to suck and having a connection to others going through the same process is going to be key to getting through it. I haven't read all of your posts so far, but from what I have I am extremely grateful for all of you AWESOME and AMAZING ladies that have already joined and have shared your experiences, concerns, tips, support, courage and love. I've already learned a great deal, and hope to be able to share back soon. If any of you have questions about surgery or fertility treatment, please reach out to me!

    Otherwise I only have one question so far - what do you know about potential brow preservation? I just read about cold caps and wondering if you've heard of any effectiveness with icing brows, if brow gel is total BS, etc. 

    Xoxo

    Gina

  • YoungInCancerLand
    YoungInCancerLand Member Posts: 23
    edited January 2014

    Hi ladies, first treatment was this past Friday and follow-up Neulasta shot on Saturday. My joints are aching terribly. Wonder if any of you have experienced this and if you have any tips? Thanks

  • Nancyjeanne1967
    Nancyjeanne1967 Member Posts: 56
    edited January 2014

    HarmonylzMine

    Claritin the day before the shot the day of and the day after.  Also extra strength Tylenol.  Good luck, sorry for the pain. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    Harmony, yes, Nancy is right about Claritin. I get the generic, Loratidine at Walmart for a fraction of the cost. I've used both and can tell no difference in brand or generic. Start taking on the day of chemo and continue for a few days after the shot.

    I love your avatar!

    Paula

  • tekwriter
    tekwriter Member Posts: 216
    edited January 2014

    I tried the claritin/loratadine and it didn't seem to help.  I am going to start taking it before the shot this week and see if I can get some relief.

  • Lisaj514
    Lisaj514 Member Posts: 719
    edited January 2014

    hi, starting A/C 4 cycles today! Nervous but ready to get this started so that its closer to being done. Port was placed on Friday 1/10 so it's still sore but the doc said no problem accessing it today. They said they use lidocaine spray to numb it but may ask for a prescription for the cream to use as well. The port site is very sensitive to touch even lightly over the skin.yukk! They say it will get better and I'm trusting it will. We can do this, we are strong! Lets triumph ladies!

    My quotes to get me through this day:

    "Promise me you'll always remember: you're braver than you believe, stronger than you seem and smarter than you think" Christopher Robin

    "Courage is not the absence of fear but instead the triumph over it" Nelson Mandela

  • YoungInCancerLand
    YoungInCancerLand Member Posts: 23
    edited June 2018

    Thank you for all the responses. Interesting about the Claritin. I already take Allegra for my allergies. I'll have to check to see if I need to switch or what that would mean. Walking and a heat pad did help last night before I went to sleep.

    Lisaj, the port will get better :) I'm a little over a week in and I'm getting used to it. Get the prescription cream it makes a difference. 

  • katiegrey
    katiegrey Member Posts: 79
    edited January 2014

    rabbitvelvet - please let know how you like your "hat with hair" - I'm planning to do the same thing. Also, good luck with the TCH and with your daughter. 

    I got my port this morning and my neck feels a little stiff, it's difficult to turn my head from side to side, but hopefully it gets easier. I was a ball of anxiety this morning until my sweet nurse gave me a Valium to take the edge off. I don't remember a thing about the procedure, so I guess that's for the best. Not looking forward to what's under the bandages, though!  I start AC a little later this week and I'm really anxious about that - my oncologist says it's more difficult than the Taxol, which comes later. 

    Hugs, love and strength to all of you lovely ladies this week :-)

  • Sam2U
    Sam2U Member Posts: 233
    edited January 2014

    Katiegrey--I had my port in last Tuesday and my neck/collarbone area was sore and hurt to turn my head/ lift my arm.  My nurse recommended OTC pain reliever-Tylenol or Ibuprofen, etc. and it really helped.  My pain lessened in a few days.  What's under the bandages is very small on the neck, a bit bigger on your chest, and an "alien" bump where the actual port is.  It's not too bad, but I had surgery first, so maybe I'm used to scars!?!  

    My first A/C treatment is on Thursday, I get you on the anxiety.  My big thing is the not knowing how it will effect me personally, but we can do this!!

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited January 2014

    Ativan is wonderful for the anxiety. MO can prescribe it. It can also help with sleep. An extra bonus is that it can help combat nausea!

  • candycandy
    candycandy Member Posts: 18
    edited January 2014

    Carren--LB.. 

    I just had mine last Thursday and I am triple negative and I got lumpectomy end of last year. My result came back all negative so I am tumor free! I am 33 years old and recurrence is one thing I am really afraid of. But, I try my best I can with Chemo and kill all the possible cancer cells in me. My second chemo is 23rd. So far, I got first ddAC and my body is handling very well. I feel a bit tired but I don't feel nauseas as much as my doc and nurses tell me. Good luck with yours! Ask anything to nurses and doctors if you have anything you need to ask. 

    I also cut my hair from long hair to pixie and got blond highlight. 

    Candy

  • momgie
    momgie Member Posts: 7
    edited January 2014

    Hello ladies! I've been reading through your posts these past few weeks to try and gauge some potential side effects I may experience. I had my first chemo (TC) last week, the 7th. I will be receiving 4 total. I am 9 weeks post surgery today. This chemo crap is not new to me. I had chemo 14 years ago for Hodgkin's (ABVD). The A in that cocktail stands for Adriamycin. Back then I had treatment every 2 weeks for 6 months! (12 total) I really thought this time around it wouldn't be so bad. I was sadly mistaken. I am very surprised just how quickly my body is being ravaged by this poison. I DID NOT want to do the chemo! I had every intention of fighting this the rest of the way holistically. I only changed my mind after my surgical pathology was elevated from a grade 2 to a grade 3. It seems I'm dealing with a more aggressive type than I was originally told. That being said, I went ahead with the chemo.

    The first few days weren't so bad, taste buds were the first to go, had myself a funky psychedelic trip Thursday evening (steroid high ??), chemo brain Friday (just felt like my head wasn't screwed on straight), some minor aches and pains (just felt like body aches when you have the flu), went from constipation to diarrhea, my face is breaking out (steroids - ??), already had my right leg and foot go numb on me (that came on sudden after a hot shower and went away after several hours, thank God! I felt great on Sunday. I thought "Wow, that's it, I'm on the road to recovery till next time?!"  Ha! Not so fast...Sunday night it started. The dreaded bone pain. Now, I had a drug called Neupogen last time. It basically did what the Neulasta does, only I gave it to myself for 5 days after each treatment. The Neulasta seems to be a concentrated dose given only once. I didn't have much pain from that med. Wish I could say the same this time 'round. What I experienced yesterday felt like labor. Low, back labor. Came on sudden, lasted 5-20 seconds. I was screaming in pain. Mind you, I have a very high tolerance for pain. Tylenol helped a bit. I am reading on here that some of you are taking Claritin in the hopes of dodging this pain. My nurse told me to take it just once, about 1/2 hour before the Neulasta shot. I did. I questioned her...really just the once. She said yes.  Are some of you being given different instructions? If so, how much and when. Next time I'll take more to see if it helps. With all of the other toxic things I'm putting into my body, a little Claritin is the least of my worries. 

    Also, are any of you taking any supplements to help you get through the chemo? I take l-Glutamine, magnesium, and B6. I drink Essiac Tea as well. Thanks for your feedback. This site has been a God-send. :)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    momgie, the combination of supplements you're taking are excellent for dodging neuropathy that's especially related to the taxanes...Taxol & Taxetere. B6 should be taken twice daily.

    My oncology nurse practioner told me to start Claritin (Loratidine) the first day of chemo and continue for several days after.

    Paula

  • tekwriter
    tekwriter Member Posts: 216
    edited January 2014

    I am learning all of that kind of thing on here so far. Although I do plan to run everything by my MO Thursday.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    tekwriter, tell your onc to check the studies on Claritin & Neulasta. Neulasta is a histamine. Claritin is an anti-histamine. I don't know about Allegra. Apparently studies haven't been done on it yet.

    I also found out that the first injection is more concentrated, so don't give up on Claritin yet. Try it next treatment, but start the day of chemo.

    Paula

  • Diamond_lil
    Diamond_lil Member Posts: 76
    edited January 2014

    hi momgie, sounds like you have been hit hard with SE's! I have had only 1 dose A/C and am not scheduled to have neulasta until after my second dose, and then only if my neutrophils drop significantly. Speaking of bloods, I had my first lot taken yesterday post A/C and they are all great! Fingers crossed this continues. I still have no SE's to speak of, quietly confident I can return to work next week. I have an appointment with my onc on Friday and I'm seriously considering asking her to reduce my dose of pre and post dexamethasone..... In retrospect I can see I was pretty buzzy for 3 days, I don't know if I would be able to work if I was that high! Will let you know her recommendations. 

    It's a beautiful sunny day here in Australia, sending some your way

    LIL

  • paloverde
    paloverde Member Posts: 179
    edited January 2014

    Diamond_lil, counting on you to be our beacon for how well things can go!  Awesome!  

    I'm a little concerned about the steroids myself - when my insurance refused to cover the Emend, the MO team's modified anti-nausea plan included doubling the dose of Dex in my pre-meds (but not my subsequent doses).  I may be really wired!  We'll see.  I'm tentative for going in to work on Friday, and then we have the 3-day ML King holiday weekend which will help.  

  • myra104
    myra104 Member Posts: 102
    edited January 2014

    Hey there chemo sisters!  Had my first ac on friday and thank God for anti nausea meds!!  Friday night is a blur, started compozine that night, flu like symptoms, soaked two nights in a row.  Could only eat small meals sat. And sun., even those were tough to tolerate.  Neulasta shit made my bones restless but allergy pills ie claritin, helped.  I am constipated a lot and miralax once a day hss helped combat that no problem.  The zofran and dex every morning and evening with compoazine heloed ward off the vomiting however it was tough to keep it down sometimes.  I am slowly coming out of ut, vision is blurred hoping that wont be my new temporary eyesight.  Anyways, cheers to one down and 3 ac's to go...feel better lovely ladies....I have a new respect for each and every one if you, xo

  • otceb
    otceb Member Posts: 156
    edited January 2014

    Hello everyone! Unfortunately, I have to join you, I just got confirmation today that I need chemo and will start on January 30th. I have booklets to read, lots to prepare, and this wonderful thread to read! 

    It seems many of you are getting AC-T, is anyone getting FEC-D? It's Fluorouracil, Epirubicin, Cyclophosphamide then Docetaxel (same as Taxotere). Supposedly the SEs are similar, but my hospital gives AC-T for different pathologies than mine.

    Also, is anyone planning to work during the coming months? I have a hard time imagining being home for 18 weeks, but not sure if I want to deal with the stress of work and worrying about how I look to my colleagues and the downtown crowd through this crap.

    Looking forward to getting to know you!  We'll definitely need each other's support!

  • lisacm
    lisacm Member Posts: 32
    edited January 2014

    I start A/C on 1/23/14. I'm having an echocardiogram tomorrow ,port placed on Monday and then chemo Thursday. I feel like I've been on a roller coaster. Surgery was the first drop and now I feel like I'm going up to the first backward loop by starting chemo. LoL.  Why does Claritin help with bone pain and body aches? My Mo didn't mention anything about it today. I'm going to be on a "dose dense "schedule which means I will be receiving A/C every two weeks instead of every three weeks. We will continue this way as long as i tolerate it.  This is so bizarre but I still don't feel like this is real. I am NOT a cancer girl, in my head anyway.   I'm concerned about getting a decent wig and hat. I have no idea how to tie a scarf on my head and actually i dont want to look like a grandma. Has anyone bought a wig yet? Any tips? One thing that really pisses me off is I finally found the hairdo for me, last week, and now it's gonna fall out. WTH!   I want to work throughout this process if at all possible. I am much better when I'm out of the house and productive. When I'm stuck in the house I get depressed.  Lol.  I am not looking forward to this journey but I hope I make some new friends along the way. I'm all about finding the silver linings. 

  • paloverde
    paloverde Member Posts: 179
    edited January 2014

    How'd it go, 2ndtime, Lisaj514, and katie_grey?  Good luck tomorrow rabbit_velvet!

    Myra104 glad you're back here with us, got a little concerned when we didn't hear!  

    Lots of us starting Thursday - Sam2U, Ciamarro66, EmmyAbby, Carren-LB-at-2-0-clock, and yours truly - any others? 

    tekwriter, second treatment on Friday?


  • paloverde
    paloverde Member Posts: 179
    edited January 2014

    otceb and lisacm, welcome.  I work full-time and am hoping to continue as normally as the treatments will allow.  Started back on the 6th after recovering from the BMX.  What type of work do you do? 

    My first treatment is Thursday, so the next week or so will be very telling.  

    I have my wig, but I don't love it.  It will be for work only, and even then it will not fool anyone :)  Just started looking at some headwear online last night, after being stubbornly in denial about it for several weeks.  There are some things I like, but for work I'm terrified of being instantly "outed" as a cancer patient as soon as a co-worker sees me down a hallway.  There were some styles that I can see being comfortable in at home, at the gym, out for errands, and during treatments.  

    otceb, I don't believe FEC-D is commonly used in the US. 

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited January 2014

    Well, I got a start date, 1/23. However I don't know that it will actually happen on the 23rd. I am still on IV antibiotics for about another week and I don't even have my port placed. MO said if we had to we could start chemo w/o port and go back and have one put in, but she would rather not do that. I'm doing 6 rounds of ACT, and I'm so nervous. I just want things to come together with my doctors and get this ball rolling.

    ***edited to add****

    Blood work came back today that I am anemic...10.9 and normal is 12.1. MO is running more tests to see if I'm deficient in something, but she said it could also be from my 2 surgeries. Will this delay my chemo or cause me added problems, has anyone dealt with this?

     

  • lisacm
    lisacm Member Posts: 32
    edited January 2014

    When I was first diagnosed I outed myself at work. I'm a health care case manager for a child protection agency. I'm a nurse so I'm really very open about medical issues in general. Iam very forthright. I look very very healthy. I imagine when I go back to work( I've been out since my lumpectomy)  I will be bald. Because I am an open book, I don't think anyone will be too surprised and really? Too bad if they are. I am concerned about my 8 year old daughter. We talked about my hair loss and she really really wants me to wear a wig. I totally understand and respect her feelings and I promised her that I will always wear a wig when her friends are around or we are out together. I never want her to feel bad about how I look or feel bad about herself because of how I look or feel bad about feeling embarrassed about my bald head. To avoid all those issues, I'm just going to get a wig ASAP. Lol I imagine that as she gets used to it, she will adjust and it maybe won't be such a big deal to her, but if it is,  that's ok too. Someone on these discussion boards talks about her new "normal" after her diagnosis. Its a perfect way to describe this journey.  I'm interested in seeing what my new normal is. 

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