Starting Chemo, November 2013 Group
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still havent gotten to computer to share my life. positive side effects.....hmm....no billy goat facial hair! no breast hair! weight loss! our MOST HOPED....will be a bit before we know....that it will put the lupus and other autoimmune problems in remission.!!!!!! that would a HUGE BLESSING!!!! Out to eat w hubby! hope to write more then!
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Lissy- hope you are doing great and HOOOORRAAAYYY for your last one!!!!! YES!
Pat- Your boys sound great, I have 3 girls! We wish for grandsons! funny! I miss California and we had a ski place in Colorado when we lived there so we did get to the mountains a lot in the snow...it was fun...we are actually looking to get another..maybe then we could all meet there?
Paulette- glad you got infusion and will feel better! Next week is our last one!! woohooo!
inks-flipping houses sounds fun and smart, I watch it on HGTV a lot! Good for you! Hoping you feel ok with the Taxol yesterday
Elliechestn- That will be great to move back to San Diego, I LOVE that town, best weather year round!!! Your husband sounds like a go getter and that sure is better than not one? Hoping you get drains out and feel better quickly, those drains are annoying!
Wallymama- I sewed Halloween costumes and a couple of rodeo outfits for my girls but I am not very good so didn't feel confident to do 'important' clothing...I sortof learned to sew on my own... but girls are so fun to dress! I LOVE the hallelujah song too
Thanks for the nice words about our middle child, we love her so, and I know she will come around eventually. She has a baby that is being raised by the boys aunt in Houston, we see her every 3 or 4 months and it is sad...so we have one grandchild already, just rarely see her..
BEc, Amazon- no radiation for me, and thanks for liking the wig...it is itchy and pokey after wearing it awhile but makes me feel more normal when OUT...hoping you are both feeling well!! And baking a cake is something I will do today too..I LOVE to bake!
lisa137- I agree and takes breaks as well, helps me feel better, but the week after chemo when I'm down on couch only it is something to do as I get bored and have trouble concentrating to read a book even! Your new plan sounds good, can't hurt to have more can it?
I am having hot flashes every 30 minutes or so in the night and in day also, anyone else?? seems like a lot!
Quirky- I read on here somewhere that someones MO said that chemo clears any skin cancer cells so maybe that's what is clearing your skin...mine looks OK too but a little dryer than usual...I quit using the retin a I have used for over 15 years during this as it sloughs off skin and this does too, so will start that up after I guess...HATE to look older than I need to...
Virginia- Glad you are better, and I wrote you on other thread also! We are done next week - hoooorayyy!
Wishing you all a great day!
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Hi ladies,
Newbie from the January thread with first AC
treatment coming up next week, looking for some help. My prescription
insurance carrier, Caremark, will not cover Emend, presumably due to the
expense. I was supposed to take Emend/Decadron/Zofran to prevent
nausea. My MO team couldn't budge the insurance carrier so they will
prescribe something else to replace the Emend.Question: Does Emend
perform head-and-shoulders above all other anti-nausea meds, e.g. is it
worth considering paying cash for it? Or have some of you had other
anti-nausea combinations that were very successful for you?Thanks for any help, I'm trying not to get too stressed about it. You are all an inspiration!
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paloverde- I did my 3rd tc treatment today. I usually get emend but it is higher in cost so I did the zofran in the IV today. The nurse said it was basically the same thing just shorter acting. I usually can get by with just taking 1 phenergan the first night after chemo so we will see. I will post tomorrow to let you know how I do with nausea. Hopefully the nurse was right.
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Lisa
I am having 3 infusions of taxotrene-no cytoxan. Sounds like they are taking taking extra good care of you given your situation.
I hear you about not making cancer your life's purpose. I was and will be a whole person when this is done, with cancer being an added war wound that I will feel some sadness and empowerment from. Right now though, it has taken over (first day of 3rd infusion)
VirginiaNJ - I missed you post regarding a reaction - I apologize. It must have been scary for you. I hope things go better going forward.
I really like the positive comments people make about how things are going, and attempts to get back to 'normal' . It feels like we are all trying to let the old life back in when we can. This, think, is a good thing.
Bec - I applaud your cake making - what an effort! I hope whoever eats it loves it!!
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palvodere,
I was VERY nauseated my first round. Zolfran, Deacron, and Gravatol did not work for me. I spent most of my 2 day in the hospital getting rehydrated and much of the first week vomiting or pooping. I was switched to Emend for nausea and Tecta for stomach acid and am MUCH better. FYI the Zofran gave me a hell of a headache, migraine like, which just spurred on the nausea. I know others have had different experiences but Emend really helped me a lot.
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I'm on TC and the zophran and decadron combo worked great for me.
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HI Ladies!
I am stopping by to ease everyone's anxiety a bit. I successfully finished 8 rounds of Chemotherapy in December (why I visit this site often!) I had 4 A/C and 4 Taxol. I was the lucky one who had minimal side effects. I had some nausea with A/C but once I took Compazine it all subsided. I took it at night. I gave myself neulesta shots at home (hard for the 1st time, easy the other 3 x's) I took Claritin 1 day before treatment and up to 4 days after and that took away any bone pain associated with the neulesta (apparently expands the bone marrow and helps with red blood cell flow) I also too L Glutamine and never got a mouth sore at all. They sell them at GNC stores in chewable form. I chewed one day before, day of, 3 days after. I didn't lose my hair until day 22. It thinned prior to but didn't totally fall out until then and I was happy about keeping my hair as long as I could. Never shaved my head. It wasn't as bad as anticipated. In the shower is where I found was the easiest to pull it out. I have a beautiful wig that I have worn for 3 months daily now. Jon Renu is the maker and it was $300 but worth every penny. I wash it and brush it all the time and looks so real. It is highlighted with a lace cap that looks just like a scalp. I get compliment after compliment on my "hair". I stil have my eyebrows and some lashes believe it or not. They sell a gel that I use a few times a day by Brian Joseph. It is $40 for a small tube of it but it WORKS!! I finished Taxol 12/6 and I still have eyebrows. My lashes are started to grown in thin and my head has a peach fuzz on it now. Taxol was a BREEZE. I never iced my nails or toes and they never fell off. Sometimes I feel like we over read on things and get so worried about them and that becomes our anxiety. My nails got sore shortly after taxol but it was tolerable. I had bone pain with taxol but tool Naproxen 500mg every day and it helped tremendously. My feet bones were the worst pain but it was shore lived. I started my RADs process of getting mapped out last week and am starting 33 rounds this week coming. looking forward to getting back to a new normal and not having to go to all these appts! My next with my Oncologist is in May! And it felt so good to know I have a break soon.
Hang in there ladies. I truly believe attitude is what helps us push through difficult times. I kept my head held high, fought through each treatment with dignity and strength and here I am! Still smiling and thanking god that I am here for my 10 yr old daughter, Thank god that I found my lump on my own, I thank God that I had a GREAT surgeon who removed all my cancer and got clear margins. I Thank God for a second chance at life! Had I not found my lump god only knows where his plan would have taken me. I believe I was meant to find my cancer, fight it, and help others along the way. I found a path while in treatment and that was fostering rescue puppies from kill shelters! I joined an organization for a reason and it helped me through my dark days in Chemotherapy. They gave me hope.
So hold you heads high, YOU WILL DO THIS AND YOU WILL GET BACK TO NORMAL!!!! -
Paloverde, I don't know which of the drugs I took during AC kept the nausea away. I took Emend, Decadron and Zofran days 1-4 and had no troubles with nausea. HOWEVER, Zofran gave me a killer headache after #3, so I didn't take it for #4. I had Compazine on hand but didn't need it. So, for me, I'd say Decadron and Emend were the secret recipe. That sucks that your insurance won't cover it. Just for a point of reference, the three Emend pills I took myself (excluding during infusion) were about $415. (I had a $50 copay.)
Lisa, I've never seen that regimen, but being a fellow stage III'er, I'm firmly in the camp of give me all you've got! If my MO said she'd like to do a little more chemo "just because," I'd ask for the first appointment. And it does not surprise me one bit that you received high praises for your customer service skills -- you're fabulous with all of us!
Re my cake, let's just say it's a good thing my boys are easy to please! Though the frosting was a bit of a fiasco, the cake is good. I had a nice time feeling like a regular old mommy, so it was all worth it.
Oh, almost forgot, I got my BRCA results back today -- negative. So, very good news for my ovaries and kids!
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paloverde- Sorry to hear that your insurance won't cover Emend starting with the first infusion. It is not surprising that they won't because of the high cost of the drug. It may be possible to try getting the insurance to approve the Emend after the first round of chemo. If you really truly need it, it should be easier to demonstrate to the insurance company that you have to have that drug. Hopefully you will do well enough with the anit-nausea drugs that your onco prescribes for you. I was on a different chemo regimen ( Cytoxan/ Taxotere) than you are having. I took Decadron for 3 days starting the day before the infusion, Zofran for 3 days starting the day after the infusion and Phenergan to take anytime I was nauseous. Fortunately, I never had to take the Phenergan. I had Decadron, Zofran, Benedryl and Ativan in my pre-chemo IV cocktail. I do recall my onco asking me if I had experienced any morning sickness when I was pregnant with my kids. I asked her why she asked that question; she said that it could be an indicator of how I would handle the chemo. She was right about nausea feeling for me; I didn't have any morning sickness while pregnant and didn't have any nausea from the chemo. Wishing you the best!!!!
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Dear Paloverde,
I would try the protocol that your insurance will pay for and see how it goes the first time. It may work well for you. I would be monitoring myself carefully and let my MO and his team know how I felt after my treatment. I would let them know if the Protocol did not keep the nausea at bay or if I had other SE that I found difficult to tolerate. They could then inform you insurance company that the protocol did or did not perform satisfactorily. I am sure that if you had SE that were not tolerable that your MO would inform the insurance company that the Emend was necessary for your chemo to be tolerated. There is often a first line drug that insurance companies want to use due to cost. The MO has the final say on what is in your best interest if the meds are not performing to his satisfaction. I would certainly ask him about that. I have had to pay for going out of my Tier 1 where everything is paid at 100% to Tier 3 where things are only paid at 805 as many of the things I need to have done are not performed at a Tier 1 facility. I find it hard to do so, but as my husband has always insisted, sometimes it just cannot be about the money. It sometimes has to be about what is best for us, our children, our family.
This is a hard thing to be going through. Try to make it easier on yourself. See if the drug combo the insurance company will pay for works. You may do well with it, but don't feel locked into something that makes this chemo thing harder on you. Talk with you MO and see what his thinking is and what he can do for you if it does not work well. Phenargan, compazine, there are other options not quite as expensive as emend.
Gayle
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Paloverde, zofran gave me a killer headache. For my second round of AC they gave me phenergan and Ativan. They were much better.
Virginia, I am sorry to hear you were in the hospital,with an infection. I am glad you are better and they are adjusting your treatment. I hope you do fine with it.
Lisa, you are very insightful and have a lot of common sense. My husband thinks I spend too much time checking these boards and he is afraid it isn't good for my mood at times. But honestly, this is where I get all my information, and sharing with you all actually makes me less fearful. Also, I don't get out too much so chatting with you ladies helps with the isolation. But we do need to get away from thinking about it all the time. Today I did just that and went to happy hour with some of my friends from work. Happy hour is something I used to regularly do. I miss being with my friends so it was fun, although I had two beers. That is my limit for the week.
Audra, love that wig, and congrats on being finished!
Lissy, congrats on being finished!
38, thanks for checking in with us and letting us know that there is an end to this! Where do you get the Brian Joseph cream for the eyebrows? Good luck with rads and please let us know how you do. I will be having 33 zaps also.
Bec, I am glad the family enjoyed the cake. And good for you that the BRAC was negative. I get my results in two,weeks.
I happen everyone has a good weekend. Lots of rain and milder temps for us here.
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@Audra Yeah, i tend to be here more on those crashy days when I can't concentrate on much anyway. Plus, on those days, it seems I'm already miserable enough that nothing here is going to depress me lol.
Oh and yesterday --which was chemo day-- I had hot flashes off and on all day long. Drove me crazy. Today I haven't had a single one...not yet anyway.
Funny thing: I love to cook, and get all experimental, but when it comes to baking, that's my husband's forte. He makes a chocolate cheesecake that is out of this world, not to mention a strawberry cake that people beg for more of, and his banana pudding is legendary even though his recipe is EXACTLY the one from the side of the 'nilla wafers box lol...no one believes him when he tells them that. They swear he's got to be doing something extra. His meringue comes out beautiful and perfect every time. Me? I CAN bake but I don't like things that are too unforgiving like that. Hubby is a meticulous perfectionist, so baking is his thing.
Paloverde: I get Emend and Aloxi in my infusion, but no prescription for it. If it makes you feel any better--if you get Aloxi---my chemo nurses seem to have a whole lot of faith and belief in the Aloxi. They seem to think that's the best one. I have Zofran, Phernagan(sp?) and Ativan for nausea in prescription forms. The phernagan is my go-to drug; I take it every 6 hours for the first few days after chemo to stay *ahead* of the nausea/queasiness, I take an Ativan if I still feel queasy despite the Phernagan and only ever take the Zofran if I'm REALLY queasy and have already taken the others. I also take a prevacid (or store brand of same) every morning, take Zantac (store brand) if I feel heartburn or even more queasiness, and - again for heartburn mostly-- keep maalox, pepto bismol, and Tums on hand, and take them as needed. Thus far I've mostly only experienced queasiness, a couple of rounds of real nausea feelings, and have not thrown up AT ALL through all four rounds of A/C. So for me, at least, this (giant) combination works.
You know, I went into the A/C treatments expecting to be nauseous and barfing and miserable through the entire thing, but it hasn't been like that at all. Not NEARLY that bad. Just some queasiness. Quite honestly, the worst part has been finding things to eat and drink that taste good. Nausea/queasiness has been no more than an odd aggravation. Fix it in your mind that you will plan NOT to be nauseous and don't be afraid of it, and you just might do as well as I have.
jab, it takes me over sometimes too, and I have come to understand that when I feel that way, the best thing for ME to do is just LET IT take over. Wallow in it for a bit, cry a bit, and then seek out some of those posts from people in 2007 with similar diagnosis to mine and look 'em up and see that they are still here and still doing great, OR they've mostly disappeared with no real word which I believe in 90% of cases means they've moved on with the their lives.....and I start to feel much much better. But yeah, I do go there too. I just try not to stay there for too long: it's not a happy place.
I HAVE started to get back to normal just a little bit already! I work at home and after several months of more or less being on hiatus (and paying the price for it) this week I've been a veritable POWERHOUSE, creating new designs and putting new products on my website, doing a complete reorganization of the entire thing, revisiting my pricing structure....whew! I'm tired...but now I'm tired from work as well as from chemo lol. OHHHH and I cooked actual meals for my husband and me not once but TWICE his week. Granted, it was pork chops with mac and cheese and corn on the cob and lima beans from a can one night and lamb chops with couscous and broccoli with cheese and canned corn the other night and both types of chops done quickly on my George Foreman grill (love that thing) both nights, so we're talking 20 minute meals, but they were DELICIOUS. And hubby feels a little pampered again, so that makes us both happy.
BTW, jab, I love your quote.
I'm skipping from topic to topic here, but Zofran also gives me a headache I think, and it constipates me, AND my onc really said I should only use it for "breakthrough nausea" so I mostly avoid it. I think I've taken maybe 5 of them total, through all this.
@38TooYoung I love it when you folks who have climbed the mountain ahead of us come in and do a bit of cheerleading. It helps SO much! Thank you for taking the time to do that. I'm going to try hard to remember to do some of that myself .... it's all so scary going into it, and then living through ti seems like it's going to take FOREVER. Thanks for reminding us that it only SEEMS like forever.
I seem to have conquered my mouth sores with one simple remedy that I found on another thread on these boards: SOmeone recommended mixing up 4 cups of water with one tablespoon of salt water and one tablespoon of baking soda, putting it in the bathroom, and swishing with it EVERY SINGLE TIME one goes to the bathroom, even if it's just to put away some washcloths. I've been doing that, and after having HORRIBLE mouth sores for my first two rounds of A/C, they all went away VERY quickly after I started doing that, and I haven't had a single one since. Not one. My onc was impressed, and made a note.
The claritin apparently works for me too: I've had almost no bone pain, and I've had clear sinuses lol. Good stuff!
@Bec awww, you're too sweet.
Of course this isnt' much like customer service cuz y'all aren't calling me up and yelling at me if I give bad advice haha. I worked for quite a while for a mail order artist's supplies operation and let me tell you, the "Tempermental Artist" thing is NOT a cliche! I had a pastel artist call me up crying her eyes out and saying we had ruined her LIFE because her order did not include her blending stomps. Blending stomps! Gah! lol. I loved calming people down and helping them out but I had to give up on that lady. There was just no consoling her.
I only get the decadron during the infusion, and then for two days afterwards in pill form. Are others getting more of it? Just being curious; I'm not having nausea (heck, I ate jambalaya at Ruby Tuesday's today and just had a salami sandwich and feel great,) so obviously I don't need more anyway.
Yeah, I told my oncologist at the outset that I wanted him to throw everything including the kitchen sink at it until I said "Enough! I can't take anymore" and kind of chuckled, but I think that's exactly what he's doing. I think he's awesome, but partly it's because I KNOW how hard he fought to keep my grandma alive and kicking against all odds for so long, and I KNOW that if it were not for him and some rather heroic measures he was willing to take that my stepdad would have probably died 10 years ago, and I know that he's taken a special interest in my mom and her issues --- he's got a great track record with my family, so he was really the only choice for me. I wish everyone could have such a great and caring doc, I really do.
Have any of the other ILC ladies in here done a count of how many of us there are? What I read when I was first diagnosed was that only about 10% of new cancer diagnoses were ILC and that they were mostly "geriatric" ....which we are NOT. What in the world is going on with ILC?!
@Melrose interesting about you being asked if you'd had any morning sickness and that being an indicator of your possibility of nausea with chemo. I was asked if I tended to get motion sickness in cars or seasickness, and that that would also be an indicator. I don't get motion sickness unless I try to read in a car....so they were right about that one. They also told me the other day that the fact that I didn't get much bone pain with the Neulasta shots could indicate that I won't get a lot of it with the Taxotere, either, so we'll see how they do with that one prediction.
So my last A/C was yesterday. For the first three, the first night after chemo was pretty icky; terrible heartburn, or nausea that was just enough to make me miserable but not enough to actually barf. For the last one, last night and today, I've felt AWESOME. So I guess that just as my body is getting used to that particular poison, we're moving on to the next one.
It's funny though how the whole chemo thing is supposed to be cumulative, but for me, it's actually gotten better in a lot of ways as I've gone along---I guess because I learned new and better ways to deal with each side effect as I came to it, and conquered it. Y'all remind me that I said that on my "crash days," which will be Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and maybe Wednesday as I come off the decadron. But hey, at least now I know to EXPECT that I'll be exhausted, sleepy, unable to concentrate, possibly depressed, and probably crying at the drop of a hat, AND that it will all go away in a couple of days and I'll feel human again. Supposed to go and play Trivial Pursuit with my brother and whoever is his girlfriend that week (lol) on next Friday night, so I have something to look forward to!
I hope everyone has a great night, and a wonderful weekend, if I don't get back in here til Monday when I'm crashing and depressed and my husband is at work and I'm home alone with the dogs and cats all day boohoo.
Love and hugs to all!
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@smrlvr THIS thread and you ladies never depress me. You just don't post enough to keep me busy sometimes lol so I start venturing out into other areas of the boards and that's when i start to get kind of....well, you know. I'm learning to NOT just click on "active topics" and read what looks interesting, and I have learned to really keep in mind that there is bad information on some threads as well as good information---I'm learning to recognize names and learn whose advice/info to trust and whose to just overlook... But yeah sometimes I just like to FORGET about it all for a while and create a new tee shirt design or play a computer game or (ohmigod) do some laundry and wash my dishes....and when all else fails, I play with or snuggle my dogs.
I don't get out AT ALL though, so I know what you mean about that. I literally have not been anywhere on my own since before my surgery in October!! Main reason right now is just plain silly: A stray cat had kittens on our porch right around the same time I had my surgery and we STILL HAVE THEM because my husband has been unable to find homes for them and can't bear to take them to the shelter. I am TERRIFIED that I will try to back the truck out of the driveway and squash a kitten. How ridiculous is that? Honestly though, I'm a homebody and rarely actually get lonely anyway and so rarely went much of anywhere even before all *this* anyhow, so I don't actually mind. I'll be driving myself 15'ish miles each way soon enough for radiation every day soon enough I reckon though.
But yeah, y'all should post more, so I'm more entertained without venturing into those scary areas of the boards haha. C'mon, you can do it!
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Lisa137,
Sometimes I think that this board is like others where people post about problems more than triumphs. It really is helpful and cleansing to post concerns and questions as well as posting when I feel weepy or over whelmed. This is where I know others will really understand and feel that they will be able to give me insight into what to expect.
I have been cooking and baking a lot the last few days. I baked peanut blossoms, banana bread, and made fudge to give to my doctors, nurses and others who have been helping me along this journey. They seem very thankful for the treats and I get to do something semi creative.
I gave cookies to the pharmacy staff at the hospital. I went to have my perscriptions filled prior to discharge and they were so very nice. I had just had my head shaved and I was wearing a new hat. The clerk commented on my hat and AI told her that my head was cold. She asked why and I told her. The staff asked to see my head and I showed them. The pharmacist, pharmacy tech and clerk told me that I looked beautiful and had such a nice shaped head. They said that my eyes (which are blue) really were more beautiful and really stood out with my shaved head and that if my head wasn't cold, that I really should not wear a hat. Their comments made me cry. When I went to take them treats, the same staff was there and they remembered me. They asked how I was doing and told me how great I looked. They wished me well. I told them how much their comments meant to me as they were complete strangers and just the idea that they said such kind things really helped me adjust to my baldness.
I took cookies to the surgeons office. Her staff is always so busy but they take the time to be kind and just talk to me. They remember my name and remember all of the bumps I have had along the way. They comment on how well I look and much of the staff hugs me on my visits. My surgeon has alway been very supportive of my needs even though she did not do my original mastectomy. She makes room for me in her busy schedule if I feel I need to be seen and showed up at the hospital during my last stay even though it was not her day to make rounds.
I took cookies and cupcakes to my plastic surgeons office. She did not do my tissue expanders but was the second plastic surgeon I consulted. She took care of me during my recent hospitalization and has been caring for me since. She was at another hospital 60 miles away at a conference when I was being admitted to the hospital. I requested her when I knew I was going to need a plastic surgeon during my hospital stay. She asked who was requesting her and when she was told it was me, she left her conference and came right to the hospital to care for me. She was not on call that day and she still came to care for me. What physician does that? I don't know her that well as I work nights and do not see her in the hospital that often, but I felt she was caring, experienced and had a gift, so I wanted her to guide my care. She treats me with such care and concern that I am hoping she will be the second surgeon when I have my DIEP . She continues to have privileges at the hospital where I will have my DIEP. Microsurgery is such as specialty that there are not a lot of plastic surgeons in our area doing it.
The medical doctor, or hospitalist who supervised my medical care, was just the perfect physician to be my physician. She was so very kind and empathetic. She was never rushed. She would come into my hospital room and sit and talk to me. I often was weepy while I was in the hospital as I hadn't been sleeping, was on all of the steroids, was loosing my tissue expander and had quite a bit of pain. She would just talk with me and ask what I needed and let me cry. She never said " don't worry. It will be fine." or dismissed how I was feeling. I found out she is dealing with her own cancer and she has a best friend undergoing treatment for breast cancer. I made a basket for her with fruit, an insulated drink mug, cookies and ginger/ honey tea bags. I wanted to give her some of the things that help me through my side effects and make my days easier. I did not tell her staff who the basket was from when I dropped it off. She knew anyway. She called me the next day to check on me and told me she had an idea the basket was from me and told me how much she appreciated it. I was near tears telling her how her daily visits helped me and how I believed God placed her as the physician supervising my care as she was just what I needed during that time.
The people in CAT scan were so very kind too. The tech assistant held my had while the radiologist placed drains near my tissue expander. The radiologist took his time and explained everything he was doing and took me out of the CAT scanner to show me the pictures he was taking during the procedure. I know it doubled the time it took, but he did not seem to mind. He knew how important it was for me to see what he was doing. The techs and the nurse took the time to just talk to me and came to my hospital room the next day just to see how I was doing. There was no falseness in their concern. I was able to relax a little during the procedure because they were there.
The IV nurses came and cared for my port daily. They took extra care of the skin around my port by using skin prep to help prevent blisters and sores. They positioned the needle to prevent drag on my port and made sure I was having no issues. They came daily even though they really did not need to. They go around the hospital starting IV's and changing sites and dressings on all patients in the hospital. I walked the halls a great deal and they would stop and talk to people without concern for time. Sometimes I just helps to talk to someone and they did not seem rushed or impatient. I really appreciated the care and the time they gave me and noticed that they did the same for others. The IV nurses are not in the office much, so I have had a hard time getting the cookies to them.
I really don't know how else to thank he thank you I made people who give of themselves like that. They expect nothing in return. They are just kind and understanding. They were right where I needed them. I cannot imagine getting through that 10 days in the hospital without them.
I am really blessed to be able to work in a place like that. There are people who are so kind, empathetic and just plain nice in every department there. Granted, there are some real unkind and uncaring people there too, but those are few and far between. I hope all of you are lucky enough to encounter the kind ones.
I still have to give treats to the CAT scan staff and the IV nurses, but I will do that this week. I want them to know that they are appreciated and that they did make a difference.
Long way to a post about baking...
Gayle
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Bec- lol, no worries
I know how the posts get lost sometimes. Thank you for your kind words!! I love cake.......a lot......my mom was a baker (as is my sister) so I was born with a sweet tooth!!!!
Lisa- you too...my onc was very reassuring saying that the alternate she will put me on (abraxane) was similar to taxotere but much less allergenic. I hope you are managing your SE's and that you aren't too wiped out from your latest chemo!!! Hugs.
Audra- countdown to treatment 4! (I go the Monday after you...) And you are WAY too young (my age lolll) to be a grandmother!!!!!
Jab- ty, still very itchy...it's amazing how long the reaction lingers even though I am still on steroids (though weaning off of them now).
smrlvr- ty- better every day. glad I am not the "norm" and that no one else seemed to have a crazy allergic reaction to their chemo. We are having a lot of rain here too. Last week we were in the single digits, yesterday we got an inch of snow, today it's supposed to get up to 59F but pour with rain all day.
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ellischestnutgirl, thanks, that's something of a relief. I thought the coverage decision would be binding on all the AC treatments, I didn't realize the MO could make a case to appeal it after the first treatment. Others have made great suggestions as well, and I'm going to keep my fingers crossed for a good result using the meds the insurance does not exclude. I've never been a person who has a huge problem with nausea, but I had a pretty terrible time the evening following my surgery, and being just a month ago that recollection is still very fresh. Thanks again!
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Gayle, it's so great to hear about people who go out of their way to help others. It seems that so often these days everyone is in such a rush, so concerned about themselves that they don't want to be bothered. We can only wish that every medical person was so dedicated. I haven't need any 'special' treatment (except the flipped port), just several questions and paperwork done, but my MOs office has responded very promptly each time I've called. I'd like to think that they would be as caring as yours if I needed it.
I'm a little scared about returning to work tomorrow. Besides the fact that I work in a drug store and that's where all the germy people wind up. Our head pharmacist said that I'd have to wear a mask, but, really, ever tried to wear a mask AND glasses? They fog up so bad you can't see and I sure can't work if I can't see. I'm not sure if I can physically do it yet, having a little nausea today and the port still hurts with certain motions. I'm hoping that going back will help some sort of return to 'normal', whatever that means now. But I still have concerns about trying it while still having treatments. I'm pretty sure I can handle the last AC ok, but what about the taxotere? It may kick my butt like the first 2 ACs did. I'm going to need to work six weeks at least 30 hours a week to reset my disability. And that's actually work days, any sick or vacation days don't count. I figure that if I decide to go with a mast instead of a lump, I'll need the time more then than now. Being on half pay now isn't a real problem, I have vacation saved to supplement it, but it will run out pretty soon. I have to maintain my average so I don't risk losing my insurance. I just figure that I'd better get on with it. Hopefully I can still get the time in even if I have to be off every third week with the taxotere. I don't know, just being very uncertain about the whole thing, and I'm not at all used to being uncertain about anything.
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smrlvr- I'm not done yet....next Thursday the 16th....but thanks- I cannot wait and I have a page long list of questions for the 'after care' for my Dr...
when am I allowed to color hair when it grows in? when allowed to be in sun? when allowed to exercise hard? when hot tubs? etc....
As I am wondering how long the chemo poison stays in our bodies? Do we try to get it out sooner or is it good to have it in there to kill cancer cells? LOTS of questions and the scans and checks and how often , etc...
I scheduled a trip to Colorado in March over spring break- maybe already told you all this, but I will see the surgeon and PS then....it will be 6 months and I was supposed to see them in 3, who knew? I have been so in the throes of the chemotherapy I hadn't even thought of it..
I looked at a thread the other day and it had a lot of stage iv people and it scared me...so I get about this site being terrifying at times...I do not want to go there.
I slept 9 hours last night! feeling awesome! Haven't had more than 6 in forever. I actually woke up after 6 exactly and went to bathroom then went back to sleep...it was amazing!
I think the almost normal or light at the end of the tunnel is peeking through for me...I am planning and hoping and getting excited to be normal and go do things and exercise and be outside and go to my daughters games...!!! I hadn't felt that way in the round 1-3 really as was sooooo tired and shocked I think by the chemotherapy and how it screwed up my emotions and hormones and my body!
So feeling extremely hopeful and happy and grateful to be alive and have a future! I really think we are blessed! We have something to fight this with, we didn't just have a heart attack and die in our sleep or get hit by a car...right? We are being molded and made stronger and have more character and will be a light to others and able to help new BC girls and be strong and courageous for our children to see great examples!
About the amend...I think I LOVE it! I get it every time just day of infusion and I have had minimal nausea. I had a lot and even vomited with my 3 pregnancies! The Zofran gave me horrible headaches too and I only used it the first time...I now use Phenergan the first 4 days after every 6 hours religiously and have had zero nausea...so I think the amend works, they told me it stays in your system for 4 days! These insurance companies suck and I hate that they or the stupid government wants to control the Dr's and what they know works! It is ridiculous!
Positive happy hopeful day to you all!
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Wallymama- Good luck with work tomorrow, just try to stay back from EVERYONE- some are germy that don't look it!!! Praying for your energy and stamina and feeling great to get out and do 'normal' things! You can do it! We are here for you!
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Good morning ladies!
I ordered my temporary breast prostheses from the Canadian Cancer Society yesterday. They will mail it free of charge. This is actually part of the Peer Support Programme that connects bc patients to a support volunteer who has had the same dx and treatment. I am quite excited to chat with somebody about their experience and exchange my pinned sock for something that actually resembles a breast! They can also give advice about places to get free wigs in your local area. Here is their number for any Canadian ladies who are interested:
1-800-263-6750
BTW, when I was talking to the Programme coordinator on the phone, my hubby just came home during his lunch break. He overheard her asking me about my breast size. I told the lady I used to wear size B, but now with a different bra I could even go down to an A. Then my DH jumps in saying: No, you are more like a C!!! I said: No way! Have you seen me lately? Yes, I have. Which side are you talking about? ... We talked loud enough for the lady to hear our married couple argument. Then she cracked up over the phone.
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Paloverde,
I have a history of projectile vomiting after surgery. This happened over 20 years ago, but because I have that history, the anesthesiologists are very careful to make sure they medicate me for nausea, heavily, immediately post op. I believe they gave me phenargan prior to waking me up from surgery so I would not suffer from nausea or vomiting. Me letting them know I have that history prompted them to be proactive. I have had to have a few surgeries since my BC diagnosis and have not had nausea with any of them. Please let your doctor know of your difficulty with nausea/vomiting recently. He may be able to make a case for some of the other meds as back up in case the current covered ones don't work well for you. I know how hard it is to be assertive when you feel so vulnerable. I am normally very assertive for my patients and have a slightly harder time doing it for myself. It is a learned thing for some of us. I just had to start doing for myself what I always do for those in my care. It has not always been easy, but I need to value myself and do what is best for me and encourage those managing my BC care to do the same.
We don't want any of us to have side effects that may be avoided or better controlled. I am sure your team wants that for you too. I have actually been told that I should not have Zofran as I did not react well to it previously. I don't know what the reaction was, but it is now listed as an allergy in my medical record, so whether the ins company wants me to have it or not, I will not be receiving it ever again. For those who do not tolerate certain meds well, (headache, diarrhea, nausea and vomiting, rash, flushing, ect....) those things are not all considered an allergy, but an sensitivity and if it is listed in your medical record, the insurance companies will have to pay for acceptable substitutes. It is not acceptable to be given meds that are not tolerated. Pharmacists will not dispense them and most doctors will not order them, nor will nurses administer them if they are perscribed. There is a chain of protection from drugs that patients are allergic or sensitive to.
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@Gayle -- I'm never upset or depressed by any problems or concerns or anything that anyone in this group posts here, except for when it's something I WISH I could help with. I always want to fix everyone's problems for them, and I can't, lol. No, it's some of those other areas of these boards that get me doing a little too much wallowing and not enough being positive sometimes.
When my surgeon turned me loose pending my 3 month visit, my husband baked a chocolate cheesecake--really for the surgeon and his nurse, but we told them they COULD share with the entire office if they wanted to, which I think they did. My husband then agonized (in a joking way) for days, mumbling occasionally that they probably threw the whole thing in the trash, and such. We went by there one day and picked up the cake carrier that he'd dropped it off to them in; husband brought it in the house and set it on the table and there it sat for several days and finally I moved it and when I did it rattled a bit.... SO I said to him, "You didn't look to see what was in it?" There was a thank note inside it, personally signed (with his first name only) by my surgeon. My husband felt much better after that lol. I don't know if he will try and do anything like that for my oncologist's office; he may have to do cookies because there are so MANY people who help us there. If he could pick and choose, I reckon he'd make something special for my oncologist, for the financial lady who has helped us so much, for the nurse who gives me my neulasta shot and manages to get my stubborn port to give up some blood each time around and who never fails to make us laugh; also for my favorite chemo nurse just because she's such a sweetheart and always so caring and upbeat. Truly though, everyone there has been so great that they all deserve at least a cookie. We'll have to think about it.
@VirginiaNJ So far I'm not wiped out at ALL from my last chemo. I guess that probably will come tomorrow, but it really is almost as if my body has somewhat gotten used to it. Figures, now that I'm about to switch to the new chemo, doesn't it? I just keep my theme song in mind: "I get knocked down, but i get up again, and you're never gonna keep me down..." lol. I'm gonna keep my fingers tightly crossed that I don't have a reaction like yours, BUT because you did have such a reaction, I will know to be extra vigilant in watching how my body handles it so I'm glad you shared your experience, even while I'm so sorry you had that experience in the first place!
wallymama: If I were you, I'd worry less about the mask and just wear GLOVES all day long and change them frequently and never ever touch my face without having JUST changed gloves first. Germs stick to just everything, and you know they're especially sticking to money and credit cards! I'm sure that you ARE very uncertain; I definitely would be. Just do the best you can and don't push yourself too much --hopefully your co-workers will be understanding and help you out, and dammit, if you find out you can't do it, then you just can't do it and you'll just have to find another way. There's almost always another way. Main thing is: All anyone can every do is the BEST that THEY can do, so there's no point stressing about it, because that'll only make it worse. Don't overdo it! Also, if you do go for the mastectomy, if you're like me, once you get your drains out, you'll bounce back from THAT much more quickly than you think, especially if you can get off the serious painkillers and onto something like tylenol pretty quickly---and you most likely will be able to. That whole thing isn't nearly as painful as it seems like it would be. FACT: If I had to choose right now between having another BMX and recovery period from it, OR, having another core needle biopsy in my surgeon's office, I'd take the BMX every time. That biopsy HURT! The BMX was honestly more awkward and inconvenient than anything else---physically anyway. So if you need to take more time off NOW and less THEN, that wouldn't be such a horrible thing. Only thing to keep in mind is that after the mast you'll have some lifting restrictions for a little while, but if you're only doing one side....
Don't Stress!!
Audra: Yeah I don't want to go to stage IV place either, and my IIIc diagnosis is just a little too close for comfort. I can't avoid it entirely; I have a friend who has been stage IV for almost 3 years--she was diagnosed IV from the get-go, at 27 years of age. It's some scary stuff...
It's great to hear/read you sounding so upbeat and hopeful and ready to get back to real life! I knew you could do it! Can't wait til I can say "This is my last treatment!" I've got a ways to go yet -- I think we figured I'll be finishing in April, but when I consider that really I've been dealing with this since that first visit to my surgeon back in August, April doesn't seem so far away. Course then there will be 6 weeks of radiation and maybe more surgery and 10 years of something else, but hey.... chemo only til April.
Oh, and I read that once you've had adriamycin, you can't have it again, so even if my cancer comes back at some point, at least NO MORE RED DEVIL! I am DONE with that Woohoo!
@Amazon I've just been mostly going flat, but I don't want to always do that...and I'm sort of unsure how to proceed. I have gone out a couple of times wearing super padded bras (I call them bras of steel because if you poke one it dents and you have to un-dent it from the inside lol) and stffed them with socks. My husband says I dont' go far enough with the socks "Looks like you're wearing a couple of pimples on your chest." lol. I see my surgeon next month; I believe he'll be writing me prescriptions for bras and foobs at that time. Honestly though if I could get SKINNY, I dont' think I'd mind just going flat all the time. It's so *comfortable* going braless!
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Ohhh and we are under a tornado watch (in January!) until 6 this evening and there are storms headed this way. Storms and wind are my main nemesis, so I think today might be an extra ativan day!
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Hi all
Glad your all having better days. The end is in sight for some with Chemo and some are done! Yea! Now to transition back to the old life. A friend of mine who had cancer told me she couldn't help tell people she had cancer even if they didn't ask. I'm sure we will all go through our own adjustments.
Gayle - I love your generosity in taking in baking to the medical team that took care of you. It is a very personal Thank you. They will remember it and you.
Audrea - Ask those questions and let us know what you find out. I too am not ready to be naturally grey.
Wallymama - good luck with your work, but be careful. The last thing you need is to get the flu!
Speaking of flu, I seem to have caught the bit of one my husband was nursing. It is the weirdest thing. It starts with your jaw bone hurting and then turns into a sore throat. nausea ( and I need more of that!!) and bone pain. Just as I thought I was through the worst of round 3. Oh well. My husband has been sweet and making all the tea and toast I can handle.
I hope you are all having a good Saturday. It is again freezing rain here but at least warmer (-4).
JAB
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had a moment with another cancer patient at Cracker Barrell. Seated opposite each other in our hats she commented to her family about the strangeness of not being able to taste and lack of desire for food. I caught her eye and smiled and said it IS strange. Wished her luck when we left. Nice moment.
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hi everyone: I have not post for a while but come to read daily. I had thrush and watery eyes and runny nose. So I got medicine for it. The doctor was going to prescribe something for depression and I told him I'm going to contine walking. He said that's a good plan. I want to vent! I'm so sick and tired of being sick. I also have to take medicine for my pooping area. I had dry mouth so I bought medicine for it, It sure helps. My underarm is swelling and very sensitive. i hope its not lymphadema, that's where they took all my lymph nodes. The reason why they took all of ithem is the surgeon didn't want the cancer to spread there. I still have a bit of cancer underneath the ribs and ithey couldn't take it out cuz it's close to my heart, that's why I have to have radiation. Emotionally I'm feeling better today. Every time I'm going for chemo that's how I am. The unknown. Will start Herceptin and taxotere on Tuesday. For those who is already on that infusion how is that? I know I have to take pills one day before chemo. It's called dexamethasone. I take this pill for 4 days. Please post on what you think.
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Good Evening All, and it is a good evening. We have a cabin in the (low) mountains and have hardly gotten to it since diagnosis, but we are up this weekend. It is lovely being in the quiet surrounded by nature. Whenever I get up here I can feel myself physically exhale. I'm so happy to just be up here!
Today is my day to really read through your posts and respond. Anyone I leave out, please don't have hurt feelings.
Stress, oh yeah, I'm sure it was a big contributor. Our middle son, who's doing well now, had a rough last year and a half of college from anxiety and the depression caused by his feeling bad about becoming non-functional. He was over 2000 miles away and I ended up having to go out there for one week out of the month, get a kitchen suite and kidnap him. When I wasn't there he hardly functioned or did any schoolwork. I'd go there and cook for him, drive him to and from class and the library, help him plan his study time, and sit nearby as he did his work. Without my doing this he would never have completed his senior thesis. It was an enormous economic strain and a big stress for me to drop everything else in my life. I was also beside myself with worry. It has all worked out now, but I think I aged 10 years in that time. I'm sure the stress fed that nasty little tumor. Sigh.
Ellen, love the pic of the 3 cats all cozy on the bed. Wish I could see the same with my 3. I have to lock the least aggressive of mine up in a separate room at night or else I'd have to get up at 4 every morning to save her from the boy's attacks (not my favorite way to wake up!).
Virginia, wow, how scary. This taxotere isn't exactly a gentle agent. So glad you're on the mend.
Bec, I'm so impressed you can still do long walks. Sigh, I'm a wimp! You and Wallymama would die going in my kitchen. Everything is haphazard and stowed wherever seemed most convenient at that moment.
It sounds like a lot of us cook and/or bake and garden. I'm guessing it's just that we're women, so into the whole nurturing thing. So Audra, is the pic of the woman on the hay on the Wild Bliss website you?
Paulette, so glad you had a POSITIVE experience getting the transfusion!
Gayle, glad you're on the mend and have such a great place to work AND to be hospitalized!
Amazon and Wally, I'm the designated fixit person in our house too. It just kills my husband that he sucks at anything mechanical, he feels he is somehow less of a man. Ugh, it must be hard to be male, I sure don't feel like more of a guy just because I can fix things...
Lisa, I LOVE bluegrass! Hard to believe you're not a social butterfly since you are so funny here. I'd think you'd be the life of any party.
Oh Wally, I hope your return to work goes better than your best hopes!
All the talk of Zofran reactions: I get severe frequent migraines accompanied by copious vomiting. I had 9 months of nausea with each pregnancy and can get carsick on the freeway. My MO has thrown the anti-nausea book at me because of my history, and I've done really well. I tolerate Zofran perfectly: no headaches at all! I'm used to taking phenergan for my nausea, but a couple days ago it wasn't working for my headache's nausea so added Zofran with great results, so clearly it's impossible to generalize.
As for this board being depressing and negative, I don't find it so at all. I stay away from the depressing topics, that's for sure. However I find it comforting that others also have difficulties. Without this board I'd feel like I was a big baby. I do bitch here, but that's because I feel I can. With everyone else in my life I feel a pressure to downplay the situation, to sound positive all the time. I know I have to protect my sons from some truths, and my husband would buckle if I burdened him with my fears, doubts and how sh#%y I actually feel. This is the one place I feel I can be understood and where I can be honest. Sure, sometimes it's negative but damn, there's a few negative things about being in this situation...
Yippee, Wednesday is my final treatment, then on to rads. Audra, I agree about needing a list of questions for the MO. Should we brainstorm here to come up with them? Have our sisters who have gone before us made a list somewhere else on this site? I'm really bad about coming up with questions I need to ask, so I could really use some help with this. Anyone else think of what we need to ask? I'm so brain-dead I don't know what to ask. Speaking of that, I've started the Lumosity training to try to regain a few brain cells. I hope it works...
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Pat: It's great that you were able to go to the cabin, relax there for a while and catch a fresh breath. You sound like a very dedicated parent. Your life has probably been full of self sacrifice thus taxing on your health.
BTW: why do you need rads with your dx? Stage 1, no nodes? And how many rads are you going to do?
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This is when I tried to be a cat lover lol
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