Winter 2013-2014 Rads
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MinusTwo, my rash was caused by the pre-surgery skin prep - Chlorhexidine Gluconate. Drove me batty and took weeks to go away. I've been on Herceptin only infusions every three weeks since chemo ended on Nov. 4. They had me skip one infusion when I had the rash. I believe I will also be on it during rads. I get a little bit of bone and muscle pain a few days after the infusion. Other than that, no SE's.
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LanaM, I have terrible itching. The hydrocortisone cream helps a bit but am also needing to take benedryl capsules and that at least helps me get through the night. They make me too sleepy to take during the day though.
Lesliecusana, I also have olive complexion and have been red since day one. I only have 3 more treatments and am now dark red, bumpy and itchy. RO has never been concerned with redness and said the only concern that would change treatment would be broken skin and thankfully haven't experienced that. Take everything the rad techs say with a grain of salt. They aren't doctors, just trained to use radiation machines.
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Minus two, better to take toe part off because the foot part of the sock is wider than the top part. Its softer against the skin in the upper arm. And i didnt feel tight (constricted). The ones I use were long enough to reach tip of my fingers. I really was toasty warm. They were 4$ for 2 pairs. Bamboo and cotton blend at walmart. You could also use the arms of an old turtle neck skinny cotton top.
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Thanks for this forum! I am just finishing my first week of radiation, started Monday Jan 6th. 4 1/2 weeks to go- 28 rads total. So far so good, of course. I am very anxious abut potential and probable burning and can use all the advice I can get. I started creaming the area right away using my oncologist's list of recommended products. Would love to hear what those of you ahead of me are doing and how it is going for you!
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a couple of you have asked what creams others are using. I'm using Hydrophor (same as Aquaphor), I also just started using Calendula which doesn't spread on easily. So I put Aquaphor on first then Calendula. No issues to speak of. Today is treatment 13/33 it's going by so fast.
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Everyone using creams just remember water base creams are better than greasy formulas (cause most people know you don't put butter on a burn). No alcohol cause it drys up skin. Fragrance free cause some fragrances can irritate. I've heard that using the actual aloe Vera leaf is good to use ( don't use if already allergic) and its natural
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Had my second sim today (along with a second set of tats!) this time lying on my back. My RO showed showed me the pics of both sims and it was clear being on my back was the best for me. My heart was definitely in the way when on my stomach. I go for a 'dry' run on Jan 15th and start on the 16th.
For those inquiring about a cream, my cancer center provided me with Remedy with Olivamine by Medline.
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Thought I would let you know what happened in my first visit to the RO today in case it helps anyone. I didn't see the doctor, only two technicians.
Had my CT scan today, and will return next Friday for "X-rays and tattoos" (which sounds like my simulation) and then daily tx start on 1/20. Today they made a mold of my head and shoulders with my arms above my head, which will be used each time to position me. I asked about the prone position and was told that they use that primarily for women with larger breasts (mine are a C). They put some paint marker on my breast in three spots, put on some stickers with little markers in them and then covered those with a clear sticker. I am not to take those off until after next Friday's appointment.
I gave the radiation tech my parameters for appointment times -- she wanted me to come in the morning but they kept me waiting an hour this morning, so I think after work is better so I don't have someplace I have to be and the stress of that. They seemed to want to work around my schedule, so we will see.
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I usually post on Dec chemo board, but looking for thoughts/advice on radiation
I have a consult at the end of the month with the radiation onc. I'm 99% sure I'm not going to do radiation. I've done allot of research on it, and to me seems like overkill. I had a modified radical RT masectomy and prophylactic LT side done, I did this because the mri found fibroids and cysts and I've always had lumpy dense breast, so I wanted to eliminate left even though it was clear. My surgeon had clear margins. And no nodes were seen in chest wall that were invaded. They took all of my auxiliary sac on right, with 3 of 16 positive, the left sentinels were clear.
There is conflicting stories for node positive radiation anyway with mastectomies, usually more that 4 are done. I have not had the oncotype test done, but wonder is that just to decide on chemo or all reoccurrence rates? I just can't imagine going daily for 6 weeks to burn areas that to me are gone now.
Anyone else having this dilemma or more info? The pills I will be on for 5 or more years is also there to help reoccurrence...how much is too much? My biggest concern is possible future heart issues from AC and to top it off with radiation to the chest would be a double whammy, not to mention the burns and scars...and I also have temp implants in, and would prob need to start that all over again if I had rads.
Jfl
Stage 2b, 3/16 nodes positive, all taken out, DMX. ER PR pos HER neg
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Haven't posted in awhile because I was trying to forget that I was going to have to do radiation. I am dreading it more than I did the chemo or even my BMX. I have had my simulation and a practice run yesterday where I had to have my arms up for 45 min. I was in misery. In addition they made a bolus ( not sure about spelling) but basically this is a mold they put over your breast ( in my case my fake breast) to trick the machine that it hits your skin earlier than it does so that the beam is at 100% power when it hits your skin. My RO explained I had to have this done because the cancer was so close to the skin that they saved. Well when they were fitting the mold there was a lot of prodding at my breast and armpit which was extremely painful. The techs and doc tried to be as gentle as possible but they had to do their job. By the end I was in tears. I was a reck yesterday. Getting on the website today has helped. I start my treatments on Monday 1/13.
Very worried about burning, destroying my skin, and losing my TEs. Already started using miaderm and thinking about getting Emu oil too. Oh and also plan on moving my desk at work temporarily to a lab in our building that is at 90% humidity! It's like a sauna in there and should keep my skin hydrated at least while at work. I am also taking vitamin D and drinking lots of water. Need to drink more though.
Jfl...although I am worried about radiation and all it's SEs, I am more worried about recurrence. I can't imagine not doing rads because I had 4 nodes positive. I am only 43 and have two young kids to think about that want me to be around for awhile. I am getting rads on the left but am doing gated breathing so the heart moves out of the way during treatment. I also had AC chemo and am currently on Herceptin....both of which can impact the heart. I do get Muga scans every 3 mo to check my heart and feel they are watching it carefully. It is all about risk and statistics. If the doctors felt radiation was more risky to cause other problems than the risk of recurrence then they wouldn't have it in the protocol. It is good to ask questions though because all of us are different. Bring your concerns to your doctor and challenge them. I did that last summer when they wanted me to take Aranesp for my low hemoglobin. In the end I ended up taking 1 dose of the drug which got me through my chemo but refused subsequent doses when my hemoglobin got above 10. Good luck with whatever decision you make.
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Had #18/33 today. My hubby went with me because we had freezing rain yesterday & I was worried about the roads. Techs were really nice & let him come in and explained everything to him. They shoed himhow they line everything up and expained how the treatment would go. They told him the rad machine (I cant remember official name) cost $2.3 million! They also said the walls have 7' of cement and a really thick door. I'm glad he got to see it all, but I'm not sure he was - I don't think he wants to remember any of this!
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Jfl- There are so many decisions and dilemmas when beginning this journey. Every one is a personal decision and I certainly respect yours re radiation, whatever you finally decide to do. My first decision was a double mastectomy or not and I made that one easily before my surgeon even recommended a double. My left side was totally clear, but I had no intention of worrying about it for the rest of my life. I am in my early 70s and didn't want any reconstruction, so that too was an easy one. One surgery was enough for me. My right side was Stage IIB, nodes removed showed only 1/10, the sentinel node, with cancer cells. I also was HER2 positive, so am doing Herceptin for a year.
Was deciding to have radiation 'overkill'? I guess I'll never know, but was afraid to take the chance of not doing it. I have just finished my first week, so can't speak to side effects yet, but 5 1/2 weeks of radiation can't be worse than 3 1/2 months of chemo. One of my sons is a doctor, so I am lucky to have not only his opinion in addition to my doctors where I live, but that of the oncologist in his practice also who has seen all my tests and records. All advised I do the complete double mastectomy, taxotere/carboplatin, Herceptin, and radiation plan. Again, a very personal decision for all of us, but I felt if I trusted my doctors, and especially my son, I would go with their advice. The radiation to me is like supplementary insurance and I wouldn't want to regret not doing something that might prevent trouble down the road. .
I met one woman while being fitted for bras after my surgery who scoffed at me for doing chemo much less radiation. She had chosen to go total homeopathic with only surgery, no chemo/no radiation. The interesting thing was how defensive and abrasive she was to me. I in no way judged her decision, asked her to explain her treatment so I could learn more about it, etc., and couldn't have been more pleasant and encouraging to her. She virtually attacked me verbally that most people thought she was crazy blah, blah, blah, but she knew none of the chemo/radiation would do anything to get rid of her cancer but vitamins would. I got the feeling she made a decision she was afraid she might regret and had to defend herself to herself, certainly not to me as she was doing.
Wonderful days ahead to you no matter what you decide to do.
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Good Morning All. I just finished week one ... 5/32. I am concerned that I may have miss interpreted my kind RO when I asked him about taking my Vitamin D3, calcium, and multi-vitamin (Centrum Silver) during treatment. He seemed to be saying that the Vitamin D3 and calcium were definitely fine and that the multi-vitamin was okay. Now I am wondering. Are any of you taking Vitamin D3, calcium, and/or a multi-vitamin during treatment? I am going to stop taking them until I see the doctor next week, but now I am scared that I compromised my first week's treatment.
Jmfrankel, I hope Monday will go better for you than your simulation. My first appointment was a little longer than the next 4 but not as long as the simulation.
LanaM, your husband sounds very involved in your treatment. My husband is also. I am very thankful for DH's caring. I do worry about the stress my cancer is causing him.
I am very stressed today. During this first week of treatment, I stressed over thoughts that I was lying on the table in my form wrong causing the rads to go in the wrong place. The techs described all the checks they go through to prevent that. Now I am stressed about D3, Ca, and my multi-vitamin. Perhaps all the decision making about treatment protocol was bound to lead to stress.
I wish us some fun this week end. Thanks for listening.
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Just finished treatment #7 out of total 25. I'm starting to have some
swelling/soreness. My nipple is especially very sore and swollen. I
started wearing undershirts instead of a bra! The only thing that makes
this all bearable are the very nice people in the radiation department
where I'm going. They all try to make the experience as pleasant as
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Winter Rad Ladies..I hope all is having a relaxing week-end, feeling like we have the holidays behind us, which for me was a struggle, fatigue & throat infection...
What I think is interesting & am curious about, for those of us that did not get a mold made, to align us in the correct position, are we using a different machine? They push me around, poke me in the ribs a few times, & leave the room and zap away..
Jackieak, looks like on your bio, you still have Taxol to complete, is that correct? So you still have 3 months or so before you would need to decide? I think we all have/had to make these difficult decisions, sometimes, or usually under distress. Whatever you decide, as long as you feel confident and comfortable with that decision.
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Holeinone, I also didn't have a mold made. Last time I was there I asked them how they know I'm in the correct position every time. They showed me the lasers that come out of the walls, one on the right and one on the left, that they line up with the tattoos they put on each side of my body near my ribcage. I was wondering why I had tattoos down there!
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P.S. I also just read in the local newspaper that radiation technicians in the San Francisco Bay Area make over $100,000 salary per year, which to me means they have to be highly trained and highly skilled. That gave me a little hope that they know what they're doing.
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Bondsy, thanks for explanation, my place has those lasers, and it is all fairly new. As much as the disease, treatment, expense, losing all we have lost...really sucks, the technology of the treatment is certainly interesting. Wished I could of just watched it all on a cute You-tube video though...
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Sallys70, I am taking D3 and it is listed in my file of medications. None of the doctor's said it was bad for me but perhaps I should ask. Where did you hear D3 and ca was bad with radiation? I am going to google this now.
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Sally -- vitamins of all kinds were pronounced OK by my MO (after chemo) and RO, so I don't think you need to worry. Since radiation is more of a physics treatment, I don't think the vitamins can interfere with the response to the zaps. Chemo, on the other hand, is a chemical treatment, so makes sense to me that vitamins can interact with the chemo drugs and/or help cancer cells to resist the chemicals that are meant to kill them. My MO had me off all vitamins during chemo, but once it was over, gave me the green light to go back to taking them.
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Jmfrankel, I don't remember where I heard about possibly not taking D3, ca, and a multi-vitamin. When I talked with my RO, I thought I understood it was okay, but then this morning I started wondering if I understood the RO. TeamKim's post sure made me feel better. Yesterday and today I have been scared of not doing everything just right. I am thinking this emotional period may just be a passing reaction to my body adjusting to anastrozole and radiation.
TeamKim, thanks for sharing what your MO and RO said. I am heading out to my favorite Mexican restaurant in a more peaceful state.
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Sally: thanks for your question and for everyone's answers. My MO took me off Vit E and Omega 3 fish oil, but said OK to stay on Centrum Silver, Citracal, Vit D, Vit B-6 and Vit B-12 for the entire chemo journey. Hope you feel more peaceful after your Mexican dinner. Maybe a Margarita?
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Good Evening Ladies,
I had my rad simulation yesterday. It lasted about an hour and they put 6 marks covered by clear tape in different areas. Next appointment is Jan. 20th for tattoos and dry run. I asked my RO about my multi-vitamin and he said it's ok to take. I took a picture of the CT machine with the arm holders and put it on my blog if anyone wants to see what it looks like. Hope you're all doing well and having a great weekend.
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Margarita? Man that sounds good. I'm not a drinker but that sounds really good. Are we allowed to drink?
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thank you all for the comments on my question. Yes I still have 12 weeks to taxol and my perm breast surgery implants after that. I will meet with the RO, I guess I need to learn what area they would point the laser at. I understand it can come back in any breast tissue that may have been left behind, or in the scars, or the nodes....but then why are we all doing chemo too? ACT is no walk in the park as many of us know, no chemo regimine is...
I have cording in my right arm, some in the left and I'm going to physical therapy, so I do have allot on my plate, and will take my time to consider if radiation if right for me....I work in the financial medical field part, and I also know there is allot of money made by many health professionals, some much needed by cancer patients and some who get those wonderful referrals from other docs who pay it forward, hence our health insurance issues we have now in the US.
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No margarita but the grilled chicken with avocado and fresh salsa was delicious. Of course, I had to sample the chips. Thanks for all your info from your docs.
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I take Vit D2 and D3 (50,000 units once a week and 2,000 units the other 6 days). It's on my list of meds with both oncologists and neither said anything about Vit D during chemo or radiation, so I'm sure it's ok. I have a mold and they are so careful about checking position and do so many positional checks before zapping me I think we just have to trust that they are well-trained and know their stuff. And 2 rad techs double check everything together. I am definitely a control freak and I think turning my life over to others and trusting them has been one of the hardest things, but we all have to do it.
I'm finding this weekend more stressful being home and not going to radiation than I did all week going every day. Weird? I just want to get my 25 treatments over and done. I sure could use a margarita (or 2) and a hug right now. I try not to show any worry in front of my husband or anyone actually.
Forgot to say I also have lymphedema in my right arm from the node removals. My arm and hand are either wrapped in compression bandages or in a sleeve and glove over 20 hours a day.
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Hi, all. I'm in a similar position to JackieAK, meaning I'm in the chemo phase right now and rad decisions are down the road. But I'm not clear on how strongly rads would benefit me over and above the BMX, aggressive chemo, and hormone treatment. Can anyone help with that?
My 11 positive nodes were discovered after the BMX so I was not able to take that into consideration when making surgery and recon decisions. My tumor was small, and that degree of lymph node involvement was unexpected. The MO thinks maybe I just got unlucky with tumor location and it grew close to a vessel.
The downsides as I see them are the immediate SE's from the treatment, the continued disruption for another 6-7 weeks after 20 weeks of chemo, a delay of 3, 6, maybe 12 months in addition to those 6-7 weeks before being able to exchange the TE's for implants, and much higher complication rate for the implant reconstruction, plus cardiotoxicity risk (in the case of chest wall rad) on top of what I'm already incurring from the Adriamycin, lymphedema risk (in the case of ax nodes rad) in addition to what already exists from my ALND, and possibly the risk of radiation generating new primaries being increased because I'm BRCA positive. This combination is creating a lot of distress for me in anticipation.
Are rads truly likely to decrease distant recurrence risk over and above my chemo and hormone treatment? It's hard for me to see this benefit. I'm not HER2+ or ER- and the Grade 3 cells are supposed to be particularly responsive to the chemo. The dirty lymph nodes are out and the CT didn't show any reason to believe there was additional node involvement currently. Why wouldn't chemo clean up any micromets in the remaining nodes?
II'm actually willing to live with a certain amount of locoregional recurrence risk, since that should be greatly reduced by the BMX and fairly straightforward to treat, especially if I haven't already played my radiation card. Already I have to live with a 15% distant recurrence risk even with the chemo and hormone blockers. If there won't be a big decrease in distant recurrence risk, right now rads feels like overkill to me.
I realize folks on the forums are not physicians and I need to have a heart-to-heart with an RO, but I would appreciate any insights you can share, articles or other research, etc. based on your experiences to date. Thanks in advance!
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peaches12, {{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}} It will be over before you know it.
SallyS70, You're making me hungry!!
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I got my warrior princess toes on and I'm ready for battle - bring on that lumpectomy and the IORT!
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