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  • Carol99
    Carol99 Member Posts: 116
    edited January 2014

    kimmie, I'm so sorry for your loss.  You are so strong!  

    I have not wanted a port either but my veins are lousy.  I'm getting a port placed tomorrow, then treatment.  I'm kind of dreading it.

    I am shocked also at the cost of Nuelasta, although everything is so expensive. My bill for my mastectomy/recon. Was 95K, my cost $700.00, crazy!

    Carol

  • Amazonwarrior
    Amazonwarrior Member Posts: 485
    edited January 2014

    crazywabbit: Here in Canada, they charged my insurance approx 2,700 Can for one Neulasta shot.

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited January 2014

    People Like Us Video A friend of mine, who has walked the chemo path before us, shared this with me. I laughed and cried, love the spirit of the woman who created this video. 

    Kimmie, so very sorry.

    My insurance is being charged $8000.00 per neulasta shot. 

    Neskir: the port really does help with access. Has made all the difference for me. Love your new photo!

    Oranje: love your picture too!

    Please forgive my chemo brain, I know someone posted about an infection in their port. Not sure which thread it is on. I am hoping it clears up quickly and the port site is able to be saved. 

  • jackieak
    jackieak Member Posts: 169
    edited January 2014

    crazywabbit, I was shocked that my neulasta shot billed was $5800, and BC paid it all...this was one shot, and yours is x4... That doesn't make sense.... The shot is as pricey as my chemo rounds from looking at my insurance explanations.   Blue cross did make me change to Walgreens specialty pharmacy now for my next two,,,,,,but that cost you had is very HIGH! 

    My MO ok'd me to have three week reprieve after last AC on 1/23 before taxol, so we are planning a nice little getaway for a few days,,,,nice to have something to look forward to, will just need to wear my arm sleeve and have my mask readily available.  Round 3 in two days and I'm just anxious already about it, wish it was the last one.

  • nursemom
    nursemom Member Posts: 8
    edited January 2014

    Anyone have any solutions for the constant itchy feeling of my scalp? My hair is basically gone, except for some peach fuzz. I have seen a few people mention coconut oil. Do you just rub it on your scalp. I out my regular hair conditioner on it in the shower,  but I dont think that's doing anything. Anybody find anything else that has worked?

    Just saw my insurance payment for the first round of chemo, shocking! Everything covered so far, but with the new year, I am guessing I will have to reach my deductible again for the last two treatments.


  • kjfromca
    kjfromca Member Posts: 283
    edited January 2014

    Hello ladies -

    I have been out for the last couple of days and catching up on your posts.  I need to review my medical bills, it is crazy how our prices are so varied. 

    Kimmie - I am so sorry about the loss of your brother, I will be praying for you.

    Re Taxol - My MO originally had me on the weekly taxol plan, but changed it to douse dense.  After reading your posts, I am going to tell her that I want to go back on the weekly.  Do you have to take weekly Nuelasta shots with those treatments?  Just wondering, that shot wipes me out for about 2 days.

    My last AC treatment is next Thurs. if everything goes well.  

    NEskir99 - I am glad I ended up having a port put in.  My arm is still a little sore from my first IV round.

    Kim

  • jackieak
    jackieak Member Posts: 169
    edited January 2014

    I use the coconut oil on my scalp, put it on at night and sleep with it, I wear a nightcap to keep it on and also my head gets cold.

    I asked Dr today if I had to have neulasta on weekly taxol she said no, so that's good news.

    Stocked up today on tree tea oil, my nails are looking like big ridges, they are still growing but I'm keeping them short.  I heard taxol can cause allot of nail damage as well.  Have to get through two more AC but I'm feeling that taxol will be easier...hoping so!  I read some posts on Taxol board that weekly is easier and hair on head may start coming back while on it...yet some lose the eyebrows and lashes on it...WTH??? 

  • Crazywabbit
    Crazywabbit Member Posts: 563
    edited January 2014

    Jackieak. The charge and payment was for just one neulasta shot not all four of them. Maybe the charges are higher since it was administered in the infusion center. Still 12,500 paid for one shot is ridiculous even with the conversion for Canadian currency a far cry from $2,700.

    Glad my insurance year goes from July to July, so I do not have my deductible again in jan.

    My buzzed remaining hair is so tender, every time I move the cotton cap I wear at night it hurts. I will rub the stubble with a wash cloth today in the shower to get rid of the loose stuff.

    Barbara

    Question to those wearing wigs, do you use a cap or liner under it?  

  • Mikesgirl17
    Mikesgirl17 Member Posts: 260
    edited January 2014

    Djj  Wonderful news about the tumor shrinking.  That's AWESOME!  I have a weird question.  I shaved my head silky smooth with a razor on New Years Eve.  I now have stubble that is growing at quite a  fast pace.  Anyone else?  I assume it's not re growth while on the a/c.  (3 down 1 to go.) It's just bizarre.  I would love it to be, but know that there must be  a reasonable explanation.  Anyone that is having pain with the short hairs on your head after clipping, that ALL stopped once I shaved it.  My scalp isn't sensitive at all.

  • DJJ
    DJJ Member Posts: 229
    edited January 2014

    Mikesgirl17,  When my hair all came out there was still sparse stubble left all over my head that a friend clipped down.  It is still growing and will probably need to be clipped down again in about a week.  It's not new growth its just the stubborn bits that are hanging on and not willing to let go.  I'm hoping my eyebrows are taking advice from this stubborn head stubble and they hang on too!! And my eyelashes too.  Hold on eye hair!!!!!!!!

  • Amazonwarrior
    Amazonwarrior Member Posts: 485
    edited January 2014

    I am jumping in the hair discussion... I can't believe that I actually had to shave my body hair and trim my eye brows today!

    I don't think the good times with my hair is going to last though, because I had my second infussion a week ago, so I am waiting for the big fall out any time soon. But who knows the stubborn hair may just hang on for a little while.

  • Mikesgirl17
    Mikesgirl17 Member Posts: 260
    edited January 2014

    Is everyone aware that the American Cancer Society will give you a wig?  I had the best day.  I got my wig and I am over the moon.  I feel incredible.  It's the hair I always wanted.  It was going to be synthetic, but I lucked out.  They sent a human hair one because that's all they had.  They sent it to a hairdresser near me.  She helps the cancer society.  She measured me first, then went to work acquiring a wig.  It is absolutely wonderful that this is available to anyone with cancer.  I feel like I won the lottery. it's nice to have something good happen for a change. I will be changing my picture so you can see it. Please contact them if you are in need.

  • kjfromca
    kjfromca Member Posts: 283
    edited January 2014

    DJJ, Amazonwarrior1 - My hair that didn't fall out, little strands here and there, is growing.  I too am going to have to  buzz it again or something.  My eyebrows and eyelashes are hanging on.  I have not shaved my legs or underarms since round 2, and have a little stubble.  Round 3 didn't bring on anymore hair changes so far, I have round 4 of AC next week.

    Kim

  • Crazywabbit
    Crazywabbit Member Posts: 563
    edited January 2014

    mikesgirl - I got my wig at ACS also like you,  I think it is nicer then my natural hair.  It is synthetic but looks so real. I also got a couple of wigs through the Cancer treatment center but not as nice as the ASC one.  Did you sign up for th Look Good,Feel better  program when you were there? 

    Blood count tomorrow. Hoping it is >1.0 I really want to go to an annual banquet on Sat. 

    Barbara

  • keepthefaith
    keepthefaith Member Posts: 2,156
    edited January 2014

    thanks for the info on the wigs thru ACS. I think I will call them, but doubt they have anything that will match my grey/brown hair....guess I shouldn't be so pessimistic! At 58, really not into changing my hair color!
    I still have some hair left also. Hasn't changed much since 2nd TX, so maybe it will hang on. Wearing beanies, scarves and a little hair comes out the bottom and some sparse bangs, so I am happy with that. Almost bald on top, but that's okay. I have  a beautiful wig, but have only worn it twice.  Looking forward to going to LGFB class on Monday.

    CW, when I wore my wig, I wore a cap under it, but I don't know that it helped anything, really. I hope your counts are good tomorrow!

     


     

  • oranje_mama
    oranje_mama Member Posts: 260
    edited January 2014

    I wore my wig to work for the past 3 days. I have a Velcro headband that I wear under it to keep it in place. I haven't worn a wig cap under. I find the wig pretty uncomfortable but I don't think a wig cap would make a difference. It's the headband & where the wig touches my head that's itchy/bothersome. I still have a fair amount of hair - not buzzed, just really short. I'm hoping that I'll either get used to it or it will get better when my hair finishes falling.

    I will say that when I get home & take off the wig it is the most awesome feeling!

  • waterdog
    waterdog Member Posts: 46
    edited January 2014

    I head in for round two of a/c this morning. Hoping the nausea will be better with this round.  I got a "pixie" cut Sunday and hair started shedding like crazy Monday - now too patchy bald to go without a head covering.   I also went to the ACS and got a wig on Tuesday.  It was surprisingly nice.  I didn't think I was going to do a wig.  Still feel a little bit funny about wearing it in public because I don't want to be that lady in the wig.  I meet with my doctor prior to treatment - don't know if he will check tumor size or not.  Crossing my fingers for all of us that head into the chair today!  Good luck!

  • Crazywabbit
    Crazywabbit Member Posts: 563
    edited January 2014

    Waterdog - good luck today. are you on a 3 week chemo cycle?  We had the first chemo on the same day but I had my second last week, just back from a port draw for my blood count.  I found the second round was similar to the first with the expect ion of much less anxiety since I already knew what to expect.  Fatigue about the same. I really need to deal with the constipation earlier. Pushing fiber but I think I will just start low dose  daily senna the day after chemo instead of waiting 3 days like last time.  That was miserable. 

    The nurse who drew my blood today was the same one who did my chemo last week,  she really loved the wig I wore today.  Still find it difficult to wear it more then a  few hours.  Always tugging at the back of it afraid it will slip off.  I really need to start playing with scarves and learning how to wear on other then Babushka style. 

    Barbara

  • Carol99
    Carol99 Member Posts: 116
    edited January 2014

    good luck Waterdog, I had round 2 finally after a port was put in yesterday. I slept o.k but woke up twice drenched in sweat!  Kind of groggy today.

    I'm suppose to pick up my wig tomorrow, it synthetic, I think it felt weird when I tried it on.

    mikes girl, that's awesome, great luck!  I hear human hair wigs are the best!

    I'm registered for a LGFB class on Tuesday, looking forward to it!

    Oranjemama, I think going bald feels great, I take off my scarf & hat & it feels sooo good. It does get chilly here in MA though.  My daughter and her boyfriend came home while I was bald, I felt awkward but they weren't freaked out. That's what they told me anyway 

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited January 2014

    Couple of questions for you all. Anyone else on A/C breaking out in random sweats during the day and night? Night sweats, hot flashes and chemopause? Or random SE?

    Anyone else feel like their body fluids smell different? Sweat, saliva, and urine? I can't tell if it is my sense of smell that is off or what I am secreting that is medicine like. The smell does not go away with washing....really frustrating, and embarrassing....

  • kjfromca
    kjfromca Member Posts: 283
    edited January 2014

    All of you ladies heading for chemo this week - I wish you the best.  I found round 2 easier than 1, you have your meds pretty much figured out and I found that I was much less stressed.  I found round 3 pretty easy until I got the Neulasta shot, that knocks me out for a couple of days.  I ache all over from it.  Next time, I might take a Norco, haven't yet, but thought about it.  I am also more fatigued, and the nausea is always somewhat there.  

    RobinLK - My urine has had an odd smell this entire time.  I hate it.   With this round, I am waking up in sweat all night and am having more hot flashes.  I had what some might call a period last month, but it was so light that I only had to use panty liners, but it lasted for 5 days.  My nose is much more sensitive to smells.    I also have a slight always salty taste in my mouth.   Back to body odor.... I did read somewhere that our bodies can smell from the chemo.  Have you tried scented lotion?  Does your husband notice it?  Thank God it's winter.  There has to be something out there that will neutralize body odor.  Where are you at on your chemo rounds?  

    Kim

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited January 2014

    I will have round 4 on 1/16. Didn't know, AKA remember, if A/C brought on chemopause. Had a hyst. in '99, kept ovaries, so I cycle but no period, have no idea where I stand on the menopause timeline. Need my hormone levels checked, chemo/menopause is fine, but really didn't remember if it was an SE. 

    I do use scented lotion, but my armpits are bugging the hell out of me. Deodorant helps, but I can wash these pits numerous times in a row, and they still reek. My husband has a horrible sense of smell, and I have always been hyper-sensitive to smells. He says he doesn't notice and my PT says "the male lymph clients are worse." Not an all clear....better than nothing I guess. I too HATE the urine smell. Ugh....

  • RHGSR
    RHGSR Member Posts: 774
    edited January 2014

    I was told that the chemo would put me in menopause. Then the tamoxifen would definitely do it. 

    I have Roubd 2 AC on the 21st. 

  • jackieak
    jackieak Member Posts: 169
    edited January 2014

    off to round 3.... Wishing it was 4.  I have a different body odor too, and I never had smelly armpits, but I do now no matter what I use on them.  Maybe lack of hair as well?

    Also need to get my menopause checked, have ovaries but did have hysterectomy years ago...no sweats or hotflashes yet...that sounds miserable!  

  • Carol99
    Carol99 Member Posts: 116
    edited January 2014

    I had my ovaries out in 2011, I had night sweats then for about a year. With the A/C I'm getting them the first week.  Haven't noticed storage odor though I just had #2.

  • Crazywabbit
    Crazywabbit Member Posts: 563
    edited January 2014

    urine definitely has an off odor.   I also find my nose is really runny esp in the mornings, just clear mucus.  The onc nurse said that is common from cytoxan. 

    My WBC 1 week post round 2 of AC was only 1.0 with 10% neutrophils. The onc nurse called to ask if I was having any fevers, chills etc. told her I felt OK. She said that if I get any symptoms to call immediately and they will put me on levaquin. I guess <1.0  is the threshold for prophylactic antibiotics even if you feel good. 

    After round 1 my WBC was 1.5 with 16 % neutrophils. I hope round 3 next week does not drop it even lower. 

    Luckily not hot flushes but I went through all that about 8-9 years ago. I expect I will get them from  the estrogen blockers again.   Do not start that until after chemo and start RT

    Barbara

  • waterdog
    waterdog Member Posts: 46
    edited January 2014

    Back from round 2 of a/c (I am on a three week schedule) and wanted to share my mini happy dance.  The oncologist believes that my 2.7 cm tumor has shrunk about 50 percent with the first dose and as he said, we haven't even started using the good stuff yet.  I guess we take our victories as we find them.  Feeling good right now but I expect that to change later on today.  I'm going to enjoy the afternoon by myself because the dogs are in day care.  Yay!

  • oranje_mama
    oranje_mama Member Posts: 260
    edited January 2014

    yay, water dog, good news!

    I'm still in the big girl chair for chemo#2. Almost done. Hoping for milder SEs this time.

  • Crazywabbit
    Crazywabbit Member Posts: 563
    edited January 2014

    waterdog that is fantastic news, great response to the first treatment. hope you and oranje_mamaand the others who had chemo today  have a smooth uneventful  few days.

    Barbara

  • Leealice
    Leealice Member Posts: 87
    edited January 2014

    Day 4 of chemo #2 and the side effects have been much milder this time plus I know what meds work better for me.

    I also have an off urine oder and day after my first chemo I had a 12 day period and started again day after 2nd chemo. Hoping for the chemo menopause.

    Kim-I also have that salt taste in my mouth. I haven't had metal taste-just salt. Some foods still taste good and some foods that I usually like I have to spit out because they taste so bad

    Leealice

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