Starting Chemo January 6, 2014

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  • Diamond_lil
    Diamond_lil Member Posts: 76
    edited January 2014

    Hi all. Still going great day 3 post first A/C.  Didn't get much sleep last night but that's mainly due to a sick dog! Still no nausea etc. motoring through at least 3 litres of H2o a day, and 5 small meals tolerated well. I was reading the discussion re: ports. I have decided not to have a port and will only go to a pick if absolutely necessary. In saying that I have great veins, A/C may ruin them yet I guess. I am using this first cycle as a gauge on when to return to work (probably reduced hours). Anyone else planning on working? Hope you all have a peaceful day. 

    Diamond_lil

  • paloverde
    paloverde Member Posts: 179
    edited January 2014

    Diamond_lil, I just started back to work on Monday after my Dec 12 BMX.  I've had a great surgical recovery, gotten back to the gym, and am up to 240cc in each TE (starting from no fill at surgery).  The 3.5 week absence was pretty well camouflaged by the holiday and the weeks leading up to it, plus I did some work from home.  If that was the end of it, I'd be doing back flips, but instead we have more adventure in store. 

    I plan to do my darnedest to hold off as long as possible on taking any short-term disability stretches, and then only if absolutely necessary.  I'll have treatment on Thursdays, so days 3 and 4 of each cycle will be on weekends.  Don't know if I'll be one of the lucky ones who feels good on day 2, but I'd like to go in for a few hours on those Fridays if I can, then leave in the late afternoon for my Neulasta.  As a bonus with my first treatment, we have the MLK holiday on the 20th so I won't be working on day 5 either.  Sounds like days 6-7 of each cycle could be a crapshoot, go either way.  Reduced hours sounds good for those days. 

    My experience over the holidays was that my adjustment to a Stage III diagnosis that I wasn't expecting, was not helped by spending too many hours at home with not enough distractions and not much structure except Christmas Mass and medical appointments.  That's just my personality.  In the crazy 6 weeks between my biopsy and my surgery, which included getting a surprise BRCA2 positive result, I usually felt better at work because I was forced to focus on other things.  On one hand I'm very scared about chemo brain making me less effective, but on the other hand I think (hope!) all the mental stimulation and interaction with others may actually help with chemo brain.  I'm also fortunate that some of my work can be done from home by remote access, and many meetings take place on conference calls. 

    Now, I could be totally kidding myself and be down for the count two weeks from now.  But I want to start out trying for the best case.  If I need to use leave (I have up to 26 weeks and they don't need to be all in one stretch), I'd like to hold out till later in the AC-T course when I may be really draggin', like halfway through Taxol and coming up on radiation.  I've also got at least 3 more surgeries coming up in the second half of the year:  TE/implant exchange, female plumbingectomy, and recon revision.  

    Diamond_lil, have you been out since your surgery or did you go back at all?  Who else is working?  What kinds of work do you all do? 

  • WildMarigold
    WildMarigold Member Posts: 5
    edited January 2014

    Hello ladies! 

    Just checking in - had my first chemo (AC) yesterday.  Tolerated it well but was feeling pretty headachey a couple hours after getting home. Drank lots of water then it was off to bed for 12 hours (with several trips to bathroom overnight). Today I feel like I have a really bad hangover (if i remember right anyway, its been several years). Wicked headache and queasy. Hubby just gave me my neulasta, took some Allegra to hopefully prevent the worst of that shot. Tomorrow is my port consult. Did yesterdays che through a PICC line and I already hate it. There's no way I can stand having this thing in my arm for 4 months! it seems we're all hanging in there! Caya, thank you for sharing- its good to hear from sisters who made this journey and are still going strong! 

    Good night and God bless you all. -A

  • 2ndtime4me
    2ndtime4me Member Posts: 88
    edited January 2014

    Ladies

    I am in horrible pain 2 days post op power port placement. I feel like the port is on top of my collarbone. it is swollen and protruding out of my skin. These last two days have been worse than my BMX post op days. I can barely use my Rt arm and have been icing it trying to get swelling to go down. Did anyone else have pain after port. I am going to call Dr in morning, but wanted others experiences with port.

  • MsJAR
    MsJAR Member Posts: 43
    edited January 2014

    2nd time4me,  yesss!  The day I had the port surgery I thought "this is a piece of cake!"  But next morning....Oh brother!!  Hurt so bad and I felt like such a wimp!  It hurt significantly for 3/4 days. Because I couldn't stand for anything to touch it, I cut the neckline out of an old t-shirt especially wide on the right side.  

  • MsJAR
    MsJAR Member Posts: 43
    edited January 2014

    Had my first chemo today too.  Not nearly as bad as I feared.  Tonight just tired, got terrible taste in mouth, and peeing red.  The taste reminds me of a bitter aspirin dissolving in my mouth.  Have already used Biotene mouthwash once and soon will again before going to bed.  I'm needing to stretch out in my good warm and soft bed!  Goodnite, January sisters.  Hope you all will have the most minimal difficulties!!  Love you.

    JoAnn

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    Ladies if you have a headache after your chemo infusion, ask your nurse to slow down the infusion. It's natural to think its meds induced, but 95% of the time it's from running the infusion too quickly.

    I never get headaches except for a rare sinus pressure headache, but after my first 2 chemos I had pretty bad headaches. I thought it was the nausea meds, but when I mentioned it to the nurse, she knew exactly what to do...Slow down the infusion...No more headache.

    Paula

  • paloverde
    paloverde Member Posts: 179
    edited January 2014

    Ladies who started this week, thanks for sharing your experiences!  Diamond_lil, so encouraging, didn't know such a good first few days were possible on AC ... Any secrets? 

    Welcome andrea14, bride, stacey, nancyjeanne and SLCgirl. 

    2ndtime, so sorry to hear about your port distress.  Hope they can get you taken care of quickly.  My port and I are not friends yet, but nowhere near what you're dealing with.  MsJAR, glad yours finally resolved.  Sam2U, hope your placement went well. 

    My chemo "orientation" is tomorrow morning, should be interesting.  Sorry to use up all the oxygen earlier going on & on about my (probably wishful) work plans, I had just gotten home from work and it's been on my mind a lot all week. 

    Best of luck to those starting treatment tomorrow and Friday! 

  • Diamond_lil
    Diamond_lil Member Posts: 76
    edited January 2014

    Paloverde, I did go back to work for a few days post mastectomy. No problems at all. I am a nurse unit manager in a large private hospital so the facility was very quiet over the Christmas/new year break and I already had annual leave granted. I am going back in another week and just take it as it comes. I expect that I will have chemo day off, them work a few full days while the 'roids are in my system. Then another day or two off when my blood count is low. I reckon I will me able to manage 30 hours most weeks. When I go to tax I hope to have chemo in the Arvo and the next day off. But it's all a bit of a guess. Keep smiling! LIL

  • Nancyjeanne1967
    Nancyjeanne1967 Member Posts: 56
    edited January 2014

    Had my first TC yesterday. I was scared sh#%less and cried in the bathroom for awhile (mind you I didn't even cry when I found out about bc). I hate hate hate putting stuff in my body. Oh well you do what you have to.  But.... All went well. Nurses where great although when they talk to you about the possible side effects it's scary. No problems except they ran the anti nausea meds to fast and I was so dizzy it was like a pscyodelic high type of dizziness. That was not fun it lasted for a good hour then got better. I played scrabble with a friend, we laughed talked to other patients, drank tons of h2o and ate and all and all had a good time. Don't know what the next few days will bring we will see. Oh and I didn't get a port they went right into my vein in my arm. They had trouble finding the vein but eventually did and it was fine. I am only getting TC 4x so my onc said the ports not necessary.  Good luck to all my Heros out there we will forge through this together!!! Hugs. 

    Nancy

  • tekwriter
    tekwriter Member Posts: 216
    edited January 2014

    SLCGirl you stated that just right. So sorry you have to be here.

  • Ciamarro66
    Ciamarro66 Member Posts: 11
    edited January 2014

    Hi Ladies - My name is Michele.  I'm 47.  I'm new to this thread.  I was on the CMF thread because I had one CMF treatment on 12-27-13 but now my oncologist has switched me over to AC starting on 1-16-14.  He thinks we should be more aggressive with treatment because of the aggressiveness of the tumor.   Must admit I'm a little scared.  CMF was a breeze compared to other chemos I'm told.  Not looking forward to being bald either but I suppose that no one does look forward to it.  Think I'm going to buzz it all off before it comes out on its own. 

    I'm getting 4 treatments dose dense which means I'll need the Neulasta shot, which I think I'm more worried about than the chemo  My sister needed the Nuelasta shot while she was going through chemo for cervical cancer and I think she had more side effects from that.

    Any insights anyone who's been through this before can give me, I'd appreciate it! 

    I'm glad I found a group going through the same thing I'm going through.  I wish you all luck in your treatment and good health through this New Year and beyond.  Hugs...

  • paloverde
    paloverde Member Posts: 179
    edited January 2014

    michele, I'm also 47 and also starting AC on the 16th.  Welcome!  

  • Ciamarro66
    Ciamarro66 Member Posts: 11
    edited January 2014

    Paloverde - Thanks!  Looks like we're in the same boat then.  I'm also BRAC2 positive.  Do you know why you're doing Taxol too?  I wonder why I'm not.  Not that I want to, just wondering....maybe because of the stage and node involvement?  After chemo I have to take Tamoxifen for 5 years apparently. 

     Do you hate these tissue expanders as much as me???? They are so uncomfortable.  Can't WAIT to get them out! lol

     Good luck to you.  I'll be thinking of you next week!  I'll let you know how I make out.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    Ciamarro, if you take Claritin ( generic is Loratidine) on the day before Neulasta and for a few days after, you will be amazed at how it combats the bone & joint pain associated with Neulasta. I know it's for allergies and even my BC team doesn't know why it works, they just know it does. Since Claritin is for allergies I wonder if maybe the bone pain is caused by an allergy we have to the Neulasta.

    I finished treatment in August, and now I'm taking arimidex....tamoxifen for pre-menopausal women. I take generic Claritin for the bone pain associated with that. I have much fewer side effects than most who are on those meds.

    I buy the Walmart brand, Equate. I pay $2.49 for a 10 day supply.

    Blessings

    Paula

  • Sam2U
    Sam2U Member Posts: 233
    edited January 2014

    Soteria205 do you take Claritin for the Arimidex as well as the Nuelasta?

    Ciamarro66--I am another 47 yo starting A/C on 1/16--welcome!!

  • paloverde
    paloverde Member Posts: 179
    edited January 2014

    Oh my, Soteria, I hear the most bitter complaints about AI's and bone pain, with some women reaching the point of trying all the AI options and then giving up.  Is it possible the solution may be as simple as Claritin for some people?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    Sam2U, I take generic Claritin with arimidex. Since I got Adria/cytoxan every 3 weeks instead of dose dense I didn't need Neulasta. They figure you have an extra week to bounce back between treatments.

    Paloverde, many women could relieve the bone & joint pain associated with als just by taking Claritin. I have just a bit of stiffness when Ive sat for a long time or been in bed, but that is gone by the time I walk to the bathroom. I don't get the hot flashes that many women get, but I didn't have them with menopause either and I think there's a correlation there.

    It also seems like those who get the brand arimidex as opposed to generic anastrazole have fewer problems.

    Paula

  • paloverde
    paloverde Member Posts: 179
    edited January 2014

    No, I am no fan of my TE's either, but my exchange will be August at the earliest (and that's if rads don't rain on the parade), so I'm trying to find a way to peacefully coexist with them.  Monday and Tuesday were the first days I didn't have to take anything for pain or discomfort, then yesterday came another 90cc per side, and oww!  Now I can feel the darned things under my arms.  It's not as bad today though.  My PS likes to get as much filling done before chemo as possible.  And I can almost fill my regular bras and clothes now without padding.  

    Not to speak for my MO but yes, I believe pulling out all the stops with AC+T is due to the Stage III and the node involvement.  I am genuinely happy for all of you who will be finished after 4 AC or 4 TC.  But we're all in this together.  

  • Diamond_lil
    Diamond_lil Member Posts: 76
    edited January 2014

    Morming to all. Isnt it great to have a group of people in the same place to talk to! Not that we want to be here at all. So many young women.... Ive just turned 50, thats young isnt it? Im doing well, day 4 post dose 1 A/C, no side effects to speak of and I have stopped the dex so I'm much less buzzy. I was fitted for my wig yesterday and am pretty pleased with the results. I was wondering if any one had any ideas about getting eyebrows applied permenantly before they fall out? I do not " do" make up and I think the brows are my biggest worry. I hope you all have a stress free day or night where ever you are. lIL

  • tekwriter
    tekwriter Member Posts: 216
    edited January 2014

    Other than getting over my hair my eyelashes are my biggest worry.  My brows have always been sparse and light so I have had to  pencil for years.  If I understood correctly I am taking 16 weeks of AC with shots of Neulasta on the Friday following.  I appreciate the tip to start the loratadine the day before and follow up a couple of days. Today was my 1 week labs so I am at the mid point.  I get tired really quick but other than that I am in good  spirits and treasuring times with my sons and husband. I took the advice of another wise woman on here and am focusing on the good things and I am much happier and less afraid now. I have some courses lined up through coursera that sound great, (I am one of those weird people that love to go to school), I have a couple of projects like photo albums and crochet to work on at will, and some home and garden projects to set up. I am not happy to be here, but I will be happy while I am here.  I am glad to know all of you fine ladies too.

  • katiegrey
    katiegrey Member Posts: 79
    edited January 2014

    Hi everybody -

    I'm new here, diagnosed on Christmas Eve with IDC, both breasts. My chemo is actually starting before my surgery. I get my port placed on Monday, and starting Jan. 14, I'll have AC 4x for eight weeks, followed by Taxol weekly for 12 weeks. Then most likely a bilateral mastectomy. My head is swimming. For those of you who have just had your first session, how did it go? How did you feel?  

  • Diamond_lil
    Diamond_lil Member Posts: 76
    edited January 2014

    Hi katiegrey, your right, your head does swim at first, there is so much information and emotion. But in my experience your brain will kick in and start to filter through it. I had my first A/C this week and feel fine. The whole chemo thing is hard to get your head around, but the only thing I have worried about is the very small risk of an allergic reaction to a new drug. I am lucky in that I am a pretty "chilled" sort of person and I just keep moving forward. Avail yourself of all the best clinical information, trust yourself and your instincts, and trust your healthcare professionals! LIL

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited January 2014

    Hi ladies! Visiting from the Dec. chemo thread. My 4th cycle of A/C, neulasta, will be on the 16th. Each cycle has been pretty much the same for me. I have about a 72 hour period that sucks and the rest is manageable. I generally have a headache the night of my treatment, Tylenol works fine for this. About 12 hours after my neulasta I start to really hurt. The Claritin does not work for me and Percocet helps but does not fully take the pain away. This lasts for about 36-48 hours. It gets progressively less painful after about 24 hours. Then I am off all meds until next treatment. I started losing the hair on my head at day 17 from first tx. Started losing my pubic hair before that. My scalp and privates were achy prior to the shedding. It felt similar to when you take a ponytail out at the end of the day. I had really long hair and cut it shorter twice before starting chemo. I buzzed it the day I started shedding full force. Used the #3 guard on the clippers. Some women on the Dec. thread have gone shorter. I still have a fuzzy head, but can see my scalp.  I still have my eyebrows and lashes. I am hoping they stay but know the Taxol may take them from me. Love my scarves and hats. Have a wig, went shopping for it prior to losing my hair to color match. Ended up getting a different color that I liked better than my own! If you want, feel free to visit our thread. More than willing to answer questions. You can also read up on some of the SE's people have had and how they were resolved. Generally the meds are pretty good at treating SE's and if they are not working well enough for you, ask your MO for different ones. Ativan has been a good friend to me. It not only helps with anxiety, but also helps to combat nausea! It helps me get some sleep as it can be difficult to shut off my brain at night. I also tend to stress right before my next treatment. Hope this "book" is helpful in done way. Wishing you all minimal SE's!

  • Diamond_lil
    Diamond_lil Member Posts: 76
    edited January 2014

    Thanks Robyn, some great info for us Newbies! LIL

  • paloverde
    paloverde Member Posts: 179
    edited January 2014

    katiegrey, that certainly is a difficult holiday surprise that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. Hugs to you.  

    I don't know if this helps, but your diagnosis as you described it might actually give you some advantages as far as simplifying decisions.  Since you said both breasts, you may be spared the difficult unilateral vs. bilateral mastectomy decision.  Having chemo before surgery means they can actually measure whether that regimen is effective for you, unlike many of us where everything known to be cancerous has been removed and it's "blind faith" in the treatment regimen your MO chose (those are my MO's words, not mine).  Also, you'll have a lot more time to consider your reconstruction options and choose your surgeons.  

    Please take good care of yourself and stay in touch with us here.  

  • RHGSR
    RHGSR Member Posts: 774
    edited January 2014

    Hello! I was diagnosed this past October. I've gone through bilateral mastectomy with DIEP and have had first round of AC chemo. I'm 37 with 3 small children. I found my "lump" while breast feeding my third child. Massaged it for 2 months thinking I had clogged ducts. Guess I did - just not with milk. Diagnosed with IDC and DCIS in right breast. Glad I chose double mastectomy though because after surgery they found LCIS throughout left breast plus ILC in right and 3 positive nodes. I have no family history of cancer, breast fed all my babies until 2 years old, and am under 40. Craziness. But I hear this is becoming more and more common.

    I've been posting on the chemo 2013 board. But I started on Dec 30th with my first infusion. Most of the ladies over there are already on infusion 2 and 3. I'm wondering if I should hop over here as I have infusion #2 on the 21st?

  • paloverde
    paloverde Member Posts: 179
    edited January 2014

    Thanks RobinLK, Soteria and other veterans who have shared with us!

  • msphil
    msphil Member Posts: 1,536
    edited January 2014

    you all are in my thoughts and prayers, I am a SURVIVOR(Praise GOD) this yr 20 yrs. always have HOPE and my Faith kept me going and staying POSITIVE. msphil(idc stage2, 0/3 nodes, L      mast chemo and rads and 5 yrs on tamoxifen)

  • paloverde
    paloverde Member Posts: 179
    edited January 2014

    Thanks msphil!  Candycandy and lawyergirl how did it go today?  Myra104 have you been OK, and good luck to you and everyone starting tomorrow!  Thanks to all who've been sharing, it's very helpful!  Diamondlil, whatever you're doing to scare off those SE's, keep doing it!

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