Starting Chemo in December 2013

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  • Carol99
    Carol99 Member Posts: 116
    edited December 2013

    I am literally pulling my hair out!  It is so gross, even though my next infusion got pushed back 1 week it seems like I'm going to lose my hair this week.  Also my scalp hurts!  I think that's a sign, I'm wearing hats,mom getting hair everywhere.

    Barbara, I felt great after about day 10 on.  

    Crazywabbit, my nurse told me to take Claritin the day before the shot, day of, day after.  I had bad pain too.

  • Crazywabbit
    Crazywabbit Member Posts: 563
    edited December 2013

    I took the Claritin 3 days before and after the shot and got nominal pain.  Will start Claritin on Wed. for shot on Friday. 

    Barbara

  • Carol99
    Carol99 Member Posts: 116
    edited December 2013

    oops I meant the Claritin comments to rhgsr, 

  • Mikesgirl17
    Mikesgirl17 Member Posts: 260
    edited December 2013

    Its suppose to help with bone pain.  I must say that was the case with me.  My first shot, I took Claritin that day and for the next 5 days.  My doctor told me I should only need to take it for a couple days.  My second shot, I only took it the day of the shot.  I forgot to take it the next day.  Oh my word, I won' let that happen again.  I felt terrible 2 days after the shot.  Achy all over and miserable like I had the flu.  I stayed in bed all day.  Claritin works wonders.  The first shot, my only se was once in a while for a couple days afterwards, my hip, thigh and back got sharp pains.

  • Mikesgirl17
    Mikesgirl17 Member Posts: 260
    edited December 2013

    I'm sorry.  I hated going through that.  It is so gross.  I would recommend clipping it to about 1/2 inch.  You will feel so much better. I did that first, then 2 days later clipped it without using a guard.  Now I'm no longer itchy, sensitive etc.  I hope you feel better soon.

  • beths1
    beths1 Member Posts: 44
    edited December 2013

    Hello my friends

    Happy New Year to all!  2014 will be off to a rocky start but smooth sailing to come.  Hold on to that! 

    I completed round 1 of ACTH, followed by neulasta  and ended back in hospital for IVs but today is day 6 and I am feeling pretty good.  Bone pain present and am doing the Claritin/Advil which seems to help. 

    Next session is Jan 7th....question for my warrior friends.  How do you get your head ready to do this again, knowing what comes?   Are there strategies that you use?   Just wondering if you had any tips?  Meditation, visualization etc.  I don't want my head to mess me up....when all else fails...Adavan

    Are most red devil users doing 4 or 6 treatments....praying for 4 only.

    I do have a great team here in Little Rhody.  Fabulous nurse who is a bad ass which I love

    Son also works in medicine so he is on top of things.

    I am living on fruit cups, Popsicles, ginger ale flat , toast and Lipton noodle soup.  Had a few sips of wine tonight.  Trying to be normal!  Didn't feel good in the gut.  Anyone out there sipping wine through the treatments?   

    Getting  ready for hair loss and worried about job issues but mainly believing in the power of faith.

    I love reaching out and knowing you are all out there

    Stay optimistic and I am sending out my strong prayers to everyone tonight.

    Be well.        Beths

  • beths1
    beths1 Member Posts: 44
    edited December 2013

    Hello my friends

    Happy New Year to all!  2014 will be off to a rocky start but smooth sailing to come.  Hold on to that! 

    I completed round 1 of ACTH, followed by neulasta  and ended back in hospital for IVs but today is day 6 and I am feeling pretty good.  Bone pain present and am doing the Claritin/Advil which seems to help. 

    Next session is Jan 7th....question for my warrior friends.  How do you get your head ready to do this again, knowing what comes?   Are there strategies that you use?   Just wondering if you had any tips?  Meditation, visualization etc.  I don't want my head to mess me up....when all else fails...Adavan

    Are most red devil users doing 4 or 6 treatments....praying for 4 only.

    I do have a great team here in Little Rhody.  Fabulous nurse who is a bad ass which I love

    Son also works in medicine so he is on top of things.

    I am living on fruit cups, Popsicles, ginger ale flat , toast and Lipton noodle soup.  Had a few sips of wine tonight.  Trying to be normal!  Didn't feel good in the gut.  Anyone out there sipping wine through the treatments?   

    Getting  ready for hair loss and worried about job issues but mainly believing in the power of faith.

    I love reaching out and knowing you are all out there

    Stay optimistic and I am sending out my strong prayers to everyone tonight.

    Be well.        Beths

  • cenri76
    cenri76 Member Posts: 31
    edited December 2013

    New here. I just did my 2nd/4  AC, so I'm on every 2 weeks now and I've been checking my hair every day. I chopped it all off on Friday. This morning, none would come out when I tugged. After the treatment, it comes out when I tug now. Very sad. I will be shaving very soon. 

  • charusa
    charusa Member Posts: 107
    edited December 2013

    Hi Beths, I am taking the "red devil" also and will be doing 8 rounds (1 every 3 weeks) followed by a few rounds of I believe Taxol. I see a lot of our other sisters doing less rounds but I don't really question it. I guess we are all different and our tx plans are unique to each of us. I am going for round 2 on Thursday. I was fortunate with my SE's during round 1 ... i had imagined them worse than they really were. It did take a while for my WBC to come up but once they did I felt good. I just prepare myself with positive thoughts and I visualize my tumor getting bombarded and getting blasted away!!! I am better prepared for the same SE's that I had in round 1 but won't be surprised if I have others. I think the worse for me was the constipation and losing my taste buds. I hope the taste buds come back!!! What also helps me is my faith, the love of my family, and my dog. What is so hard to wrap my mind around is seeing the St. Jude commercials on TV knowing that little children are going going through this and they are coping...it breaks my heart.

  • QuirkyGirl
    QuirkyGirl Member Posts: 383
    edited December 2013

    Hi Beths - we have different drugs but after the first week or so I steadily felt better so I knew much better what to expect the next time. And that I would have good post chemo days. Had my second infusion today and while I'm not thrilled about what days 4-7 have in store for me, I'm greatly comforted to know this time it will end and I WILL feel better.  Knowing what you're up against makes it easier for me.

    Welcome Cenri!  I found buzzing it easier to manage and once you no longer have much hair it can be washer to let go of the look you had before and accept this temporary new reality.  And remember, it is temporary.  My scalp alway hurt then a day or so later the hair easily pulled out.  Eyebrows are starting to thin now. But we can do this and it's for an excellent cause that is so worth suffering for.

  • keepthefaith
    keepthefaith Member Posts: 2,156
    edited December 2013

    RHGSR, I hope your SE's calm down for you. Def call your MO to get something so you can stay ahead of them. Take 24 hr Claritin before your shot and a few days after. It may help eliminate some pain. I had some pain both rounds after my shot, but not sure if it is the chemo or the shot...but it was tolerable and took care of it with OTC meds. The second round pain didn't seem to last as long.  I think the pain is worth not getting an infection! Good luck, keep us posted. Where are you going for treatment?


     

  • kimie06
    kimie06 Member Posts: 215
    edited December 2013

    beths1 ... I go for round 3 on Friday...I don't  have an answer to your how to prepare question ....I am not thrilled to say the least as I pretty much feel normal right now, my treatments are every 2 weeks, I go in feeling great then have an ok first day or 2 then I know 3-4 days are going to suck then I come around again...the only thing getting me through is to know its not forever and it will end...as long as I know I have those 5-6 good days on the other end is enough for me to battle through the crap.  Ive done the hair loss dealt with that a week ago, I am officially shiny bald .... I am a hairstylist that had long hair that people commented on daily..it wasn't as tough as I thought it would be...I hope you are feeling better cause as I said in an earlier post my first treatment was really hard.

  • Goldie8469
    Goldie8469 Member Posts: 90
    edited December 2013

    Kimie08- i had round 3 on Dec 26. It was my easiest as far as side effects.  Although I could not sleep well the first night after chemo, I slept for 2 days. I am glad that I slept so sound.  I have a foggy brain but it was much, much better than round 1 A/C.   I need help with my foggy brain. I feel like this side effect is now more depressing than the hair loss.  IF anyone has suggestions, please please please share.  I have been playing luminosity to try to help.  Has anyone tried ADD medicine?  I don't know if it will make me have side effects.   

  • RHGSR
    RHGSR Member Posts: 774
    edited December 2013

    I'm on 3 boards and am too tired to write separate things on each board. So I'm copying and pasting but wanted to get an update posted. I apologize for cross posts. 

    I started chemo yesterday. I was so scared. The nausea was kind of like I had a stomach bug where you feel really nauseated but can't throw up. It was really bad yesterday. A little better today. More like a bloaty gassy feeling. Not pleasant but all tolerable.

    Got the shot this morning of white blood cells that is supposed to cause severe bone pain. I took my Claritin (started Sunday) and am only a little achy right now with some sinus pain / pressure. 

    Just feel bad....

    The nurse today made me feel bad about asking for meds. I told her I was scared about the SE and that I just wanted to be prepared. She told me I needed a more positive outlook. I feel like I've been really positive through this whole ordeal. She kind of bummed me out. 

  • RHGSR
    RHGSR Member Posts: 774
    edited December 2013

    keep the faith - MO is in Kyle

  • Crazywabbit
    Crazywabbit Member Posts: 563
    edited December 2013

    RHGSR

    My MO made sure his nurse called a Rx for zofran the week before I started so I would have it at home.  I also laid in a stock of ginger pills, ginger tea, coconut water, Imodium and sennakot.  Like a good Girl Scout always be prepared.  

    Barbara

  • DJJ
    DJJ Member Posts: 229
    edited December 2013

    Welcome to all the new ladies! This is a very supportive place to be.

    RHGSR, to be blunt "screw that nurse".  You have every right to get the meds you need to be prepared and to be scared.  Next time ask her if she ever went through chemo.  And if she did, ask her if she remembers the fear. 

    Beths, I’m doing 4 rounds of AC and 12 rounds of low dose Taxol, ugh! Getting your head around this is difficult.  I do a few things.

    1. My sister got me a breast cancer water bottle.  It says F@#k cancer in a very fancy creative way down the side.  Really have to study it to get what it says.  So I use it at work.  You can write yourself  messages in the lid, so you see it every time you take a drink. First one I wrote “How am I going to do this”, then “I got this”, now “half way through AC Hell!” http://www.cafepress.com/+trek_pink_ribbon_kor_water_bottle,1044783572

    2. I’m planning things to look forward too.  After radiation in July/August my friends and I are going to Northern California for a week.  I bought a travel book and am planning the itinerary.  Then throwing a party! Does anyone know where to get boobie balloons? After this is all over in January 2015, Herceptin for a year and then my port is removed, we are going to Peru. My dream vacation. Also working on planning that!

    3. I workout…The week after chemo I’m weak and nauseous so I walk. The second week I feel good so I workout hard. Today in spin class as I was doing the standing hill and I was using the bars to push the petals swaying back and forth, as I swayed left in my mind I screamed “F#@k” then swayed right “Cancer”, over and over, “F#@K CANCER” at the top of my lungs, in my mind of course.  Then I changed it to "I'M STRONG".  I sweated out my fear. If I keep my body strong, I keep my mind strong over this new hell. You don’t have to use those words, but whatever helps!

    4. I’m doing fine with the hair loss but the thought of my eyebrows and eyelashes freaks me out a bit. So I went to the eyebrow bar in Nordstrom’s. They were awesome! They have eyebrow kits made by Anastasia. They showed me how to use the stencils and mix the colors. They also then took the time to show me make-up tips. I am experimenting with eye shadow colors to go with my bald head. I also bought fake eyelashes.  It made me feel good and prepared.

    5. This is the most important one and one that recently clicked in my mind. As crazy as it sounds, I am looking forward to Friday and my 3rd round of chemo.  Because that means I’m 3/4 the way through AC hell and then I have one more.  Then I’m on to Taxol.  I remind myself, as horrible as chemo is, IT IS SAVING MY LIFE… The poison that they are pumping through our veins making us sick and scaring the hell out of us is a good thing and we are lucky that modern science is there.  So when we are sick from chemo and scared, we have to keep our eye on the prize, LIFE.

    And, yes I sip wine Happy

    Happy New Year’s Ladies, we can do this!

  • momat927
    momat927 Member Posts: 173
    edited December 2013

    Chemo Sisters & RHGSR, don 't let a nurse upset you.  She is just a person with her own baggage & set of issues like anyone else. I have run into some wonderful nurses for whom I am grateful but also a few idiots.   This is scary.  I am sometimes very scared. Positive strength comes in waves too. 

     I had chemo Friday and awful day yesterday. Nurse made a mistake and gave me Neulasta instead of a shorter acting shot I had come for. Talk about instilling confidence!!!!   Tonight I seem to have a chemo related bladder infection.  I think we are all on a steep learning curve here.   

    Here is to a new year where we won 't be defined eventually by cancer

  • keepthefaith
    keepthefaith Member Posts: 2,156
    edited December 2013

    rhgsr, I'm sorry you are feeling bad. Make sure you tell your MO about your SE's. There is no need to suffer through them. I agree, the nurse needs to get over herself... We all deserve attention, respect and the best of care. Stay as hydrated as you can. The first round is fearful bc we have no idea of what to expect. Now that I am on my 2nd round, I feel more at ease and feel like I have my arsenal in place for whatever comes my way. I hope you get some relief soon.


     

  • beths1
    beths1 Member Posts: 44
    edited January 2014

    Charissa:   Thanks for reaching out.  I love your positivity.  I agree with you about the St. Jude's commercials.   Found myself crying my eyes out the other night while watching them.

    I like the idea of visualization of the cancer cells getting blasted.  Will try that.   Sounds like you have been lucky with SE.   Best of luck with next round and please keep me posted.   

    Happy New Year my brave friend.

    Beths

  • beths1
    beths1 Member Posts: 44
    edited January 2014

    kimie06:  thanks for reaching out. Please stay in touch.    I too feel so much better prepared fro the next round. 

    BTW. You have/ had gorgeous hair.  It will one day soon be that beautiful again.

    Happy New year!

  • beths1
    beths1 Member Posts: 44
    edited January 2014

    RHGSR:  Don't tolerate that crap.  You have every right to be inquiring about additional meds which might make you feel better.   Be a strong advocate for yourself and don't let anyone bum you out.   This is YOUR fight.

    Have you asked about Adivan?   It helps with nausea and can help keep your anxiety at bay.

    Made a big difference for me.  My nurse suggested it.

    Beths

  • beths1
    beths1 Member Posts: 44
    edited January 2014

    TRUTH. !!

    Beth's

  • beths1
    beths1 Member Posts: 44
    edited January 2014

    Than you DJJ!

    I feel so much positivity from your words.  Love the suggestions and will try them, especially the Anastasia eyebrow kit.

    I am only managing to walk around the neighborhood because my bones are sore but you definitely have me inspired! 

    Please keep the messages coming....you ladies are changing my life.

    Happy New Year!!

    PS. Glad to hear that you ,too, are still sipping wine.  Makes me feel normal!

    Much Love Too All

    Beths

  • beths1
    beths1 Member Posts: 44
    edited January 2014

    Anyone newly receiving treatments having port problems?   

    I had mine put in a week ago and it is still painful, somewhat swollen.

    Normal???

    Thanks.

    Beths

  • kjfromca
    kjfromca Member Posts: 283
    edited January 2014

    Happy New Year ladies - 

    Beths1 -  I had my port put in a couple of weeks ago.  The area of incision and the skin around the port is still tender to touch.  When is your next round?  Do you have numbing cream?  I didn't have bruising after the surgery, but heard that bruising is typical.   I had my 2nd round of chemo a day after the port placement.  I did not use any numbing cream and felt that the port was easier than an IV in my arm.  I had my first blood draw from the port today, I used the numbing cream.  I felt a little sore when the nurse was disinfecting the area, but the needle didn't hurt.  I hope this helps you. 

    DJJ - You motivate me.

    Kim

  • KLI
    KLI Member Posts: 52
    edited January 2014

    wow lots of good advise and positive ideas and imagery! I have been icing feet and hands with soft ice packs in big wool socks. I am also doing the cold caps. We have friends in Europe and in many of the chemo centers there the patients get the cold caps and feet hands automatically it is just part of the protocol. 

    It is amazing that there are so many different approaches out there. We all have to find what feels right for us. 

    Keep fighting chin up...

  • Crazywabbit
    Crazywabbit Member Posts: 563
    edited January 2014

    revenge of the hair follicles... Day 14 no head hair loss yet but this morning discovered I am shedding like crazy my pubic hair. Coming out with the slighted pull.  Guess that means the head hair is not far behind. 

    Enjoying a bagel with cream cheese and lox today since after tomorrow's round 2 I doubt I will want that again for a while.  

    Happy New Year to my Dec chemo sisters. 2014 is the year will will all win this battle

    Barbara

  • paloverde
    paloverde Member Posts: 179
    edited January 2014

    Speaking of port issues, did anyone experience trouble with the insertion itself?  My BS said 95% of the time it pops right in on the first side they choose, but 5% of the time they have to re-try on the other side.  Has this happened to anyone here?  How about other complications - infection?  

    My port placement is tomorrow and for some reason I'm kinda freaked out about it.  (Maybe since it's just 4 days before going back to work, whereby with the BMX everyone knew I'd be out for 3 weeks.)  Thanks in advance!

  • kimie06
    kimie06 Member Posts: 215
    edited January 2014

    Goldie,  very nice to hear round 3 was more tolerable, that's what I am hoping for too as the second one was easier then the first.  BUT I totally understand your foggy brain complaint, I am the same, its like I am walking beside myself.  that's the only way I can explain it.

    Rhgsr - you are kinder then me I wouldn't have been long telling that nurse to F**k off and where to go and how to get there, she had no business being so ignorant. *end rant*

    Beths1 - Im always available for a chat Happy

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